On Friday 15 August 2003 04:52 pm, Tom Wesley wrote:
> On Friday 15 August 2003 21:46, Ernie Schroder wrote:
>
>
> > > ps, if I send a donation specifically marked "alcohol for
> > > devels", will that work? ;-)
> >
> > I know one personally and I'm sure he would earmark any donations
> > coming d
On Friday 15 August 2003 21:46, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> >
> > ps, if I send a donation specifically marked "alcohol for devels",
> > will that work? ;-)
>
> I know one personally and I'm sure he would earmark any donations coming
> directly to him for that purpose. Would you like he email address?
On Friday 15 August 2003 04:40 pm, Tom Wesley wrote:
> On Friday 15 August 2003 21:27, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> > On Friday 15 August 2003 01:40 pm, Bram De Smet wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:31, Zack Gilburd wrote:
> > > > On Friday 15 August 2003 05:06 am, Eric Livingston wrote:
> > > > >
On Friday 15 August 2003 21:27, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> On Friday 15 August 2003 01:40 pm, Bram De Smet wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:31, Zack Gilburd wrote:
> > > On Friday 15 August 2003 05:06 am, Eric Livingston wrote:
> > > > Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their fron
On Friday 15 August 2003 01:40 pm, Bram De Smet wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:31, Zack Gilburd wrote:
> > On Friday 15 August 2003 05:06 am, Eric Livingston wrote:
> > > Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front
> > > page that they were full, enthusiastic supporters of t
On 15 Aug 2003 16:37:54 +0100
Yorkshire Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:23, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> > From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
> >
> >
> &
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200 or thereabouts, Matthias F. Brandstetter
wrote:
> All in all, it's not a must, but I think everyone who wants to donate
> something would be glad if (s)he would know what happens with the
> money.
This was covered recently (sorry about line wrapping)
Ma
>
> From THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY ((C)1911 Released April 15 1993) [devils]:
U.S tax day. Another Devil's event. ;-)
>
> I dont understand why everyone gets so upset when Gentoo Users ask for
> financial statements, which should be public information to anyone who
> requests such information.
I th
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:31, Zack Gilburd wrote:
> On Friday 15 August 2003 05:06 am, Eric Livingston wrote:
> > Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front page that
> > they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism, had in fact helped to
> > fund the 9/11 attacks, and
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 18:52, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> From: "Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
>
> > Intentional invocation of Godwin's law nullifies it's use
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 18:12, Spider wrote:
> Karl-Heinz Zimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > subthread? where?
> There is no subthread!
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>> In shock? Have I disturbed your worldview to that extent?
>No, I think he just questions your obviously unamerican viewpoints.
I don't suppose you could point out the unamerican parts? Note that I do not
assert that Gentoo is doing any of that, and if fact point out that I think
it strange tha
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"Eric Livingston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front
> > > page that they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism,
> > > had infact helped to fund the 9/11 attacks, and were now i
From: "Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
> Intentional invocation of Godwin's law nullifies it's use. It only
> starts sub-threads. Case in point.
>
I knew somebody would point that out. I was hoping that the inflamma
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 18:46, Eric Livingston wrote:
One more answer.
> > Yes that would be b, you're just trolling. Find something better to do.
> > I for one will not be feeding this bullshit any longer.
>
> Nice. I hope you have a pleasant day, too.
Thanks I'll try to...
> You have changed y
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 18:01:23 +0200
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> subthread? where?
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subthread? where?
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 17:46, Shawn wrote:
> Intentional invocation of Godwin's law nullifies it's use. It only
> starts sub-threads. Case in point.
>
> On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 09:35, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> > Fr
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:16, Janne Johansson wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 17:56, Yorkshire Dave wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:16, Janne Johansson wrote:
> > > I do not know where you got your ideas form, nor do I care. I support
> > > things that I think are right. I think Gentoo is a right
> Yes that would be b, you're just trolling. Find something better to do.
> I for one will not be feeding this bullshit any longer.
Nice. I hope you have a pleasant day, too.
> So, I'm supporting the (further) development of Gentoo. I've gotten an
> explanation about the use of the donated money,
Intentional invocation of Godwin's law nullifies it's use. It only
starts sub-threads. Case in point.
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 09:35, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> From: "Karl-Heinz Zimmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > > free as in freedom [RMS] ... thank you for considering me as a stupid
> > > guy
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 18:13, Eric Livingston wrote:
> I see, so you won't buy MS products because they support Bush, but you'll
> happily donate to Gentoo even though they could also be supporting Bush? You
> are being completely inconsistent.
No. It was a question. Anyway I can't see Gentoo supp
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:23, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
>
>
> > Excellent, Karl. In fact it's really none of our business what model
> Gentoo
> > ch
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 17:56, Yorkshire Dave wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:16, Janne Johansson wrote:
> > I do not know where you got your ideas form, nor do I care. I support
> > things that I think are right. I think Gentoo is a right thing, even
> > though it is from USA and I do not think th
> > You'd just go right on donating? Because they write good software? I
find
> > that very odd, like you don't understand how money gets things done and
by
> > giving folks money you enable their agendas while reducing your ability
to
> > prosecute yours.
>
> I do not know where you got your ideas
>> Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front page
that
>> they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism, had in fact helped
to
>> fund the 9/11 attacks, and were now in the process of pulling money
>> together to help fund a nuclear attack on NYC, you'd just merrily ke
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 16:33, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> > Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
> > > Thread me with respect or f**k off!
> >
> > i respect you and i fuck off
> >
> > all of that is realy not necessary
>
> Alright kids ... you are all kids,
-- quoting Karl-Heinz Zimmer --
> For the moment I am happy and thankful about getting such a fine
> distribution for free, but i would not mind paying for it: I have
> to pay for lots of other things that are miles away from this
> level of usefulness - e.g. each month the German s
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:16, Janne Johansson wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:06, Eric Livingston wrote:
>
> [some samples...]
>
> > You'd just go right on donating? Because they write good software? I find
> > that very odd, like you don't understand how money gets things done and by
> > giving
From: "Karl-Heinz Zimmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > free as in freedom [RMS] ... thank you for considering me as a stupid
> > guy
>
>
> I don't know if you are stupid, but I know that you addresses us by
> "damn you everybody " with 4 exclamation marks.
>
> So think about the way of discussing
> Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
> > Thread me with respect or f**k off!
>
> i respect you and i fuck off
>
> all of that is realy not necessary
>
>
>
Alright kids ... you are all kids, right?
Tom Veldhouse
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On Friday 15 August 2003 05:06 am, Eric Livingston wrote:
> Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front page that
> they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism, had in fact helped to
> fund the 9/11 attacks, and were now in the process of pulling money
> together to he
Gentoo
is and they are doing and will continue to donate what
time I have. If I had money I'd do that too .
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:23:55 -0500
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ge
From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
> Excellent, Karl. In fact it's really none of our business what model
Gentoo
> chooses.
>
Yes it is ... if they are asking for donations.
Tom Veldhouse
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Janne Johansson wrote:
for my part, i really don't know what they do with the money, i prefer
imagining they just use it for "expenses, charges and developement" but
i will never say "i don't care"
Yup, thats pretty much what Robbins told it was used for. You don't have
to say I don't care, bu
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:06, Eric Livingston wrote:
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> You'd just go right on donating? Because they write good software? I find
> that very odd, like you don't understand how money gets things done and by
> giving folks money you enable their agendas while reducing your ability
> Why is Gentoo Technologies, Inc. any different, and why is
> everyone getting so uptight when people ask for financial information,
> which should be available to any external user wishing to use the
> information to make their decision on buying, keeping, using, selling
> or donating money and o
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 14:07, roger21 wrote:
> Piotr 'p1t3r05' Piasny wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:45:34 +0200
> >
> > roger21 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
> >>comunity and you
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 14:06, Eric Livingston wrote:
> > > how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
> > > comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
> > > earn !! this is unresponsable
> >
> > As I se
Piotr 'p1t3r05' Piasny wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:45:34 +0200
roger21 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
earn !! this is unresponsable
``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not a
> > how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software comunity
> > and you don't care about what is done with the money they earn !! this
> > is unresponsable
>
> As I see it, money is not the issue. As long as the software is free and
> the quality of the software high, I'm willing t
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 01:49, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
> Having heard and read about this issue too I just want to express that
> for me personally all this does not count: I don't care about the
> business model, but only about the quality of Gentoo.
>
> As long as it is good like today (or bett
> > Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front page
> > that they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism, had in fact
> > helped to fund the 9/11 attacks, and were now in the process of
> > pulling money together to help fund a nuclear attack on NYC, you'd
> > just me
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 13:45, roger21 wrote:
> damn you everybody
:)
> how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software comunity
> and you don't care about what is done with the money they earn !! this
> is unresponsable
As I see it, money is not the issue. As long as the s
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:45:34 +0200
roger21 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
> comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
> earn !! this is unresponsable
>
``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as in ``free beer.''
h
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 12:45, roger21 wrote:
> Janne Johansson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 01:49, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
> >>Having heard and read about this issue too I just want to express
> >> that for me personally all this does not cou
Janne Johansson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 01:49, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
Having heard and read about this issue too I just want to express that
for me personally all this does not count: I don't care about the
business model, but only about the quality of Gentoo.
As long as it is good like
Karl-Heinz Zimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Freitag, 15. August 2003 14:06, Eric Livingston wrote:
>> > > how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
>> > > comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
>> > > earn !! this is unresponsable
>> >
>> >
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Janne Johansson wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 01:49, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
>
> > Having heard and read about this issue too I just want to express that
> > for me personally all this does not count: I don't care about the
> > business model, but only about the quality of
Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
Thread me with respect or f**k off!
i respect you and i fuck off
all of that is realy not necessary
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Excellent, Karl. In fact it's really none of our business what model Gentoo
chooses.
> On Freitag, 15. August 2003 00:35, ueberlamer wrote:
> > On Thursday 14 August 2003 23:13, Tom Wesley wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Not sure if this should be here, or -devel, so I post here to not
> > >
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 00:35, ueberlamer wrote:
> On Thursday 14 August 2003 23:13, Tom Wesley wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Not sure if this should be here, or -devel, so I post here to not
> > annoy too many people.
> >
> > Does Gentoo publish it's
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On Thursday 14 August 2003 23:13, Tom Wesley wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Not sure if this should be here, or -devel, so I post here to not annoy too
> many people.
>
> Does Gentoo publish it's donation incomes anywhere?
A disclosure of donation data would
Hi all,
Not sure if this should be here, or -devel, so I post here to not annoy too
many people.
Does Gentoo publish it's donation incomes anywhere? I have to admit that I
haven't donated a thing, was about the hit the button, and thought, well, how
much? Surely they can't make, package, sen
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