Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 12:55 AM Dale wrote: > > Besides, for the wattage > the CPU uses, the cooler I have is waay overkill. I think my cooler > is rated well above 200 watts. The CPU is around 100 watts, 105 I think > or maybe 95. So, I am just picking someplace a little random to reply t

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 6:13 PM Dale wrote: > > I think the G model has graphics, but gives up a little speed. Or as I > put it above, a wiiile bit. LOL > I'll be honest - you should probably think about how important multi monitors are as a priority - is this a desktop or a server? Also, i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 3:33 PM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 05/06/2024 20:15, Meowie Gamer wrote: > > I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the > > first part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 > > to a conversation about USE? > > > > Becaus

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 6:41 AM Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > And no, I don't buy the point of view that it's the responsibility of > the developers when my personal set of USE flags suddenly causes con- > flicts. > Agree, but keep in mind that having personal sets of USE flags is basically a

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:41 PM Marco Minutoli wrote: > > What I believe is in the realm of reasonable is to ask to be notified when > important (as in popular) packages that are currently missing support get > updated with a stable version supporting python 3.12 so that we can take > action on

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 4:27 AM hitachi303 wrote: > > the news item lists in the save upgrade section those lines: > */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_11 python3_12 > */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 > > This is mixing python 3.11 and 3.12 on the same system. This should be > working

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 > > How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is > 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... I can't vouch for compatibility

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > Those steps do not just work. > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. > > There are also st

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:03 AM Dale wrote: > > I wish I could get one that comes with cables > that go from the card to SATA drives as a set. That way I know that > part is right. I'm pretty sure there are only two standards - one for external, and one for internal. Maybe there are different co

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > > >> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. > >> That is slower but at least it works. > > The LSI card

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: > > You ever seen one of these? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 > > Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe > x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using a USB cable, and converting

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found > need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for > video. The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the card should work fine in those,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: > > When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 > Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a breakout cable that will attach one of those to 4x SATA ports. Some things to keep in mind when s

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM Dale wrote: > > I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS > card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one > card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold > hooked to it. > ... > Honestly,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale wrote: > > Graphics Capabilities > > Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics > Graphics Core Count 2 > Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz > > That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. The CPU you picked indeed has integrated graphics. I did

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 9:27 AM Dale wrote: > > I thought of something on the m.2 thing. I plan to put my OS on it. I > usually use tmpfs and compile in memory anyway but do have some set to > use spinning rust. Once I get 128GB installed, I should be able to do > that with all packages anyway bu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 6:38 AM Dale wrote: > > So, I created a new link to slot 4. The network came up. So, > basically, it changed names as you suggested. I thought the purpose of > the enp* names was that they are consistent. Adding or removing cards > wouldn't change the names of cards, lik

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 7:28 AM Dale wrote: > > First, I needed to generate a password. Honestly, I'd stop right there, and think about WHY you're encrypting your disks, and WHY you need a password to decrypt them. There are many use cases and threat models to consider. I have a whole bunch of

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

2024-05-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: > > I'm looking at buying another drive. I'm trying to avoid buying one > with the PWDIS pin. I'm looking at the specs to see if it says anything > about the feature, there or not there. I'm not seeing anything. This > is what I'm looking at. > > http

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

2024-05-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 6:04 AM Michael wrote: > > On Tuesday, 7 May 2024 08:50:26 BST Dale wrote: > > > > I'm aware of what it is and the cable part. I was curious what it looks > > like to BIOS and the OS when one is connected and that pin has the drive > > disabled. From what I've read in some

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs > > do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't > > do anything if this is lacking, an

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote: > > On the AM5 link, I found a mobo that I kinda like. I still wish it had > more PCIe slots tho. AM5 has 28 PCIe lanes. Anything above that comes from a switch on the motherboard. 0.1% of the population cares about having anything on their motherboa

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:20 AM Dale wrote: > > Right now, I have a three drive setup in a removable cage for the NAS > box. If you only need three drives I'm sure you can find cheap used hardware that will handle that. Odds are it will use way less power and perform better than whatever you're

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:11 AM Dale wrote: > > My biggest thing right now, finding a mobo with plenty of PCIe slots. > They put all this new stuff, wifi and such, but remove things I do need, > PCIe slots. PCIe and memory capacity seem to have become the way the server/workstation and consumer m

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 3:58 AM Dale wrote: > > Given the FX-6300 has a higher clocks speed, 3.8GHz versus 3.2GHz for > the Phenom, I'd think the FX would be a upgrade, quite a good one at > that. More L2 cache too. Both are 6 cores according to what I found. > Anyone know something I don't that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 5:36 PM Wol wrote: > > On 31/03/2024 20:38, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > > For commercial entities, the government could just contact the company > > and apply pressure, no need to sneak the backdoor in. Cf. RSA . > > Serving a "secret compliance" notice on a third party is al

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 10:59 AM Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:33:20 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > > (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention Rich. > > Is downgrading to app-arch/xz

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
(moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 7:32 AM stefan1 wrote: > > Had I seen someone say that a bad actor would spend years gaining the > trust of FOSS > project maintainers in order to gain commit access and introduce such > sophisti

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-05 Thread Rich Freeman
First, thanks for the Ars link in the other email. I'll give that a read. On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 7:55 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: > > The main barrier is that its license isn't GPL-compatible. It is > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 6:39 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > In any case, these COW filesystems, much like git, store data in a > > way that makes it very efficient to diff two snapshots and back up > > only the data that has cha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 1:42 PM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 31/01/2024 17:56, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I don't think there are > > any RAID implementations that do full write journaling to protect > > against the write hole problem, but those would obviously underperf

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma wrote: > > If zfs file system is superior to ext4 and it seems to it is. > Why hasn't it been adopted more widely in Linux? > The main barrier is that its license isn't GPL-compatible. It is FOSS, but the license was basically designed to keep it from bein

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 6:45 AM John Covici wrote: > > I know you said you wanted to stay with ext4, but going to zfs reduced > my backup time on my entire system from several hours to just a few > minutes because taking a snapshot is so quick and copying to another > pool is also very quick. > H

Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:08 PM Wol wrote: > > On 30/01/2024 19:19, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I'd echo the other advice. It really depends on your goals. > > If you just want a simple backup, I'd use something like rsync onto lvm > or btrfs or something. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:15 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > Are there other backup solutions that people would like to suggest I > look at to replace rsnapshot? I was happy enough with rsnapshot (when > it was running), but perhaps there's something else I should consider? > I'd echo the other advi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > For example, if one > of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple > mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't > wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going to do all that > cloudy crap

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo packages contain binary images?

2023-09-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 12:24 PM n952162 wrote: > > $ tar -xjvf /var/cache/binpkgs/dev-util/cmake-3.22.2.tbz2 ./usr/bin/cmake > It looks to me that it's in the tarball received from gentoo. Unless you tell portage to fetch binpkgs it won't fetch one from Gentoo. Until very recently Gentoo didn'

Re: [gentoo-user] Network throughput from main Gentoo rig to NAS box.

2023-09-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 8:04 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm expecting more of a consistent throughput instead of all the > idle time. The final throughput is only around 29.32MB/s according to > info from rsync. If it was not stopping all the time and passing data > through all the time, I think that wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 11:05 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm not to clear on this but it looks like it is using 'aes-xts-plain64' > to me. If so, is that good enough? Is there better? You are using the defaults, which is what you should be using, as they're very secure. As far as I'm aware there is no

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 9:13 PM Dale wrote: > > Sometimes I wish they would announce when they add features. Rich, you > frequent this list. If you hear of something new, could you post it? Sure, if a relevant topic comes up and I'm aware of it. However, I doubt this setting is going to do muc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 4:22 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:49:24PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > > Anyway, when I do that and use the new passwords successfully, I make a > > backup copy and on my rig, I can encrypt it with a right click. I then > > shred the original. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:05 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:01:48AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > No, the chipset downlink is always four lanes wide. The diagram you linked has 8, but I can't vouch for its accuracy. Haven't looked into it for

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 10:35 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 09:17:45AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > > The higher-end motherboards have switches, and not all > > the lanes may be the highest supported generation, but I don't think > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 8:26 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > BTW: it’s APU, without the G. Because it is an Accellerated Processing Unit > (i.e. a processor), not a GPU. No real "reason" for it besides branding/naming/etc. They could have called it a MPU for Mixed Processing Unit if they wanted

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:43 AM Dale wrote: > > I been on Newegg using their rig builder feature. Just to get rough > ideas, I picked a AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4. Yea, I > did a copy and paste. lol It's a bit pricey but compared to my current > rig, I think it will run circl

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:48 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 10:14:42 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > > That is where you set per package compiler parameters by overriding > > make.conf settings. > > And which make.conf setting might achieve what I want? Careful reading o

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 4:26 AM Michael wrote: > > On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 06:36:13 BST Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > A strong > password, like a strong door lock, buys you time. Hence the general > recommendation to change your passwords frequently. While that can help on websites, it is o

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 9:02 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 07:16:17AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:13 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:13 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Whether you just let emerge do it's thing or try get it to do big packages on > their own, everything is still going to use the same number of cpu cycles > overall and you will save nothing. That is true of CPU, but not RAM. The problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:13 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > […] > > The downside, only micro ATX and > > mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here. > > Why is that bad? µATX comes with up to four PCIe slots. Even for ten drives, >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: attic

2023-09-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 4:38 AM William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 4/9/23 16:04, Nuno Silva wrote: > > > > (But note that Rich was suggesting using the *search* feature of the > > gitweb interface, which, in this case, also finds the same topmost > > commit if I search for "reedsolomon".) > > > tkx, m

Re: [gentoo-user] attic

2023-09-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 4:44 AM Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 3 September 2023 07:49:36 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > > Hi , I used to be able to get old ebuilds from "the attic" but I cant > > find it on google - is it still around? > > Perhaps have a look here at the archives? > > https://gitweb

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrate install from Intel 6th gen to AMD Zen 4

2023-08-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 6:22 AM Victor Ivanov wrote: > > My existing make.conf has: > > COMMON_FLAGS="-march=skylake -O2 -pipe" > CPU_FLAGS_X86="aes avx avx2 f16c fma3 mmx mmxext pclmul popcnt sse > sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3" > > 1) Replace "-march=skylake" with "x86_64[-v1|v2|v3|v4]" or just

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted swap with keyfile

2023-07-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 4:29 AM efeizbudak wrote: > > I use genkernel to make my initramfs and I am passing the crypt_swap, > crypt_swap_keydev and crypt_swap_key options but I'm guessing that since > /dev/sda2 comes before /dev/sda3, the initramfs tries to decrypt that one > first. How can I go

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd query ...

2023-05-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 6:18 AM Jacques Montier wrote: > > Well, well, Rich, you are completely right, you've found the key ! 👍 > I have that line in make.conf > INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd/system /usr/lib/systemd/system" > I now see where it comes from. > On the same machine, I have another OpenRC

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd query ...

2023-05-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 4:43 AM Jacques Montier wrote: > > As I didn't mask anything, I don't understand why this file was not installed > as it was declared in the apache ebuild... You don't have anything set in INSTALL_MASK? Check "emerge --info www-servers/apache" You might want to check th

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd query ...

2023-05-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 3:32 PM Jacques Montier wrote: > > After install, apache2.service not found... Have you done something to mask service file installs/etc? The unit file is in the gentoo repo: www-servers/apache/files/apache2.4-hardened.service -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating

2023-04-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:47 AM Matt Connell wrote: > > I usually try not to edit any files that are 'managed' by packages, but > sometimes it is unavoidable (eg. no thing.conf.d directory support), so > I wind up having to either accept the change and then re-edit it, or > zap the change and allo

Re: [gentoo-user] config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating

2023-04-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:14 AM Matt Connell wrote: > > On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 23:44 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > After update I get: > > * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating. > > > > What is this, don't remember seeing it before. > > > > cfg-update -u > > doesn't give me

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 5:30 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 27/03/2023 01:18, Dale wrote: > > Thanks for any light you can shed on this. Googling just leads to a ton > > of confusion. What's true 6 months ago is wrong today. :/ It's hard > > to tell what still applies. > > Well, back in the days

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 6:37 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Bogomips seems to be vry simple, because it takes the current frequency > into account. So the number will be low when your PC idles and very high > when you compile something. The “bogo” stands for bogus for a reason. > Just to ad

Re: [gentoo-user]Computer build, was PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 6:01 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Gamer boards tend to skimp on ports, because those people generally care > mostly for their GPU (plus design and RGB). Well, that, and the CPU only has so many PCIe lanes and adding ports beyond that requires a switch. Also, if they h

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:24 AM Dale wrote: > > According to my google searches, PCIe x4 is faster > than PCIe x1. It's why some cards are PCIe x8 or x16. I think video > cards are usually x16. My question is, given the PCIe x4 card costs > more, is it that much faster than a PCIe x1? It coul

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:08 AM John Covici wrote: > > hmmm, but what should I use for the source ip, I only assign those > when I bring the interface up when I start the interface -- I have > something like this: > [Unit] > Description=Network Connectivity for %i > ... > So, before I run this, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:39 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I've just looked at 'man make', from which it's clear that -j = --jobs, and > that both those and --load-average are passed to /usr/bin/make, presumably > untouched unless portage itself has identically named variables. So I wonder > how fe

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 5:32 AM Andreas Fink wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:53:30 + > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Yes, I was aware of that, but why didn't --load-average=32 take precedence? > This only means that emerge would not schedule additional package job > (where a package job means

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 6:50 AM John Covici wrote: > > The sending computer has two nics, eno1 for the internal network and > eno2 is on the internet. So, my netconsole stanza said > netconsole=@192.168.0.1/eno1,@192.168.0.2 Is CONFIG_NETCONSOLE enabled for your kernel? I'm not sure if the ker

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:10 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more > > bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but > > managed differently. > > > > Should be

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 4:56 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - that > is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of > simultaneous jobs. I'm trying to get that right, but I'm not there yet. > > I have these en

Re: [gentoo-user] my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:54 PM John Covici wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 14:08:34 -0500, > Rich Freeman wrote: >> > > will be displayed on the console briefly. You can also enable a > > network console, which will send the dmesg output continuously over > > U

Re: [gentoo-user] my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 9:08 AM John Covici wrote: > > Hi. So, foolish me, I decided to go from a working 5.10.155 system to > try latest lts of 5.15 which is 5.15.93. Compile, install went well, > but the system keeps rebooting. It gets all the way and even starts > the local services and then

Re: Living in NGL: was: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:43 AM Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 6:30 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > > My current solution is: > > 1. Moosefs for storage: amd64 container for the master, and ARM SBCs > > for the chunkservers which host all the USB3 har

Re: Living in NGL: was: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 19/12/2022 12:00, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:11 AM Dale wrote: > >> If I like these Raspberry things, may make a media box out of one. I'd > >> like to have a remote tho. 😉

Re: Living in NGL: was: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:11 AM Dale wrote: > > If I like these Raspberry things, may make a media box out of one. I'd > like to have a remote tho. ;-) So, I've done that. Honestly, these days a Roku is probably the better option, or something like a Google Chromecast or the 47 other variatio

Re: Living in NGL: was: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 4:53 PM Dale wrote: > > It took some digging around but I found out it is a AMD Phenom 9750 quad > core. You might want to hook a Kill-a-watt to that and see how much power it uses. Those older AMD processors were really inefficient. One thing I've come to appreciate wit

Re: Living in NGL: was: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 2:30 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 01:07:43PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > > Mostly, I need a better CPU. If I encrypt anyway. > > Did you ever tell us the exact CPU you have in there? All I can remember is > it has 4 cores. And some AMD processor wit

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 8:13 AM Michael wrote: > > Actually this had me thinking what is the need to back up the ... Internet? I'm sure the NSA knows the answer to this. Based on discussions I've had with people who are into such things they basically have their own Wayback machine, except it obv

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:30 PM Dale wrote: > > One thing I like about the Raspberry option, I can upgrade it later. I > can simply take out the old, put in new, upgrade done. If I buy a > prebuilt NAS, they pretty much are what they are if upgrading isn't a > option. Some of the more expensive

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 11:56 AM Laurence Perkins wrote: > > Pine64 has an interesting array of SBCs which are both cheaper and (some are) > possibly better suited to becoming a NAS than a Pi. One of them even has a > PCIe socket I think. > I have the RockPro64 and I'll go ahead and warn you th

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:59 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > You could, but this is either a sink-hole for time, or you need to get up to > speed with cross-compiling and binhosts. I went with the standard Debian and > evaluate Arch from time to time. But I do run Gentoo on my DIY NAS with an > i3

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

2022-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 7:37 AM Dale wrote: > > Path two, I've researched building a NAS using a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB as > another option. They come as parts, cases too, but the newer and faster > models of Raspberry Pi 4 with more ram seem to work pretty well. For this sort of application the key

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 6.0 upgrade broke sound to TV over HDMI

2022-11-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 11:40 PM Dale wrote: > > I found a new version of the nvidia-drivers. I figured it might work > with the new 6.0 kernel so I tested it. Sure enough, it compiled and > installed. And this is why compiling isn't evidence that something works. :) What nvidia driver versio

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

2022-11-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 1:10 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm back to my old kernel tho since my nvidia-drivers won't work with a > kernel that high. I run into this on rare occasions. They are only rare because you aren't updating regularly. If you want to run external kernel modules like nvidia-drivers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

2022-11-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 2:13 PM Wol wrote: > > The idea behind stable kernels is great. The implementation leaves a lot > to be desired and, as always, the reason is not enough manpower. > Two things: first, LTS kernels aren't the same as stable kernels. Dale has been running stable kernels, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

2022-11-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 1:25 AM Dale wrote: > > Is there some major change that causes copying .config file from 5.14 to > 5.18 or higher to break? So, I just upgraded to 5.15 recently and tend to stick to LTS kernels, precisely to minimize this sort of thing. My guess is that you missed somethi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update to /etc/sudoers disables wheel users!!!

2022-10-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:26 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2022-10-26, Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> If you use an x11-based merge tool then it will also refuse to attempt > >> an automatic > >> merge if X11 isn't available. (Obviously you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: repair of a seg-faulting bin-utils

2022-10-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 12:24 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2022-10-26, Corbin wrote: > > Help! > > > > The last update I did built/installed bin-uitls. It is now producing > > seg-faults. I forgot to make a quickpkg of the old bin-utils before > > upgrading. > > The first thing I would do is ru

Re: [gentoo-user] Update to /etc/sudoers disables wheel users!!!

2022-10-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 1:15 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 10:21:06 -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: > > > > dispatch-conf even gives you the opportunity to edit it before > > > applying. > > > > Yep. > > > > I almost always reject the changes suggested on config files that I've > > mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Update to /etc/sudoers disables wheel users!!!

2022-10-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 3:42 AM Ramon Fischer wrote: > > I do not know, what the developers were thinking to encourage the user > to edit a default file, which gets potentially overwritten after each > package update... > > "etc-update" helps to have an eye on, but muscle memory and fast fingers >

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot shutdown or reboot because of logind disconnection

2022-09-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 8:21 AM johnstrass wrote: > > > Why is the logind so fragile? Have you checked your logs. I'm guessing that the kernel OOM killer is killing it, and it is kind of hard for a process to not die when the kernel kills it. > Why cannot it be brought up again after the memeo

Re: [gentoo-user] Separate /usr partition

2022-09-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:16 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > 1. dracut: 90crypt: Could not find any command of '/lib/systemd/systemd- > cryptsetup cryptsetup'! > > ...and similar for bluetooth. > > What do I have to include in /etc/dracut.conf.d/mine.conf to silence these? I > already omit the re

Re: [gentoo-user] Separate /usr partition

2022-09-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 12:17 PM Laurence Perkins wrote: > > If something you need for booting with separate /usr is missing that would be > a FSH bug and is probably worth reporting unless you're doing something truly > arcane with your system. > You can always ask upstream but just about ever

Re: [gentoo-user] Replace 8TB drive with 10TB drive on encrypted LVM

2022-09-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 1:40 AM Dale wrote: > > Now to replace my /home drive which is also close to full. It's not > encrypted tho. The biggest difference in this and plain LVM, resizing > with cryptsetup or close and reopen. Keep in mind, while I did all > this, LUKS, cryptsetup, whatever was

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted hard drives on LVM and urgent power shutdowns.

2022-09-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 9:56 PM Dale wrote: > > I suspect this would happen on its own but I'd like to make sure. I'd > hate to mess up the file system badly on any of my drives or in a worst > case scenario, brick a hard drive with some 1 in a million chance problem. > I just wanted to comment

Re: [gentoo-user] Limiting amount of memory a program can use.

2022-08-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 11:32 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 28/08/2022 15:21, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Something I wish linux supported was discardable memory, for > > caches/etc. A program should be able to allocate memory while passing > > a hint to the kernel s

Re: [gentoo-user] Limiting amount of memory a program can use.

2022-08-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 8:24 AM Dale wrote: > > What I would like to do is limit the amount of memory torrent > software can use. While ulimit/cgroups/etc will definitely do the job, they're probably not the solution you want. Those will cause memory allocation to fail, and I'm guessing at that

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting maximum space out of a hard drive

2022-08-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 10:09 AM Mark Knecht wrote: > > Obviously you can do what you are most comfortable with but to me a NAS > machine with a bunch of external drives does not sound very reliable. > I would have thought the same, but messing around with LizardFS I've found that the USB3 hard

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting maximum space out of a hard drive

2022-08-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 7:26 AM Dale wrote: > > I looked into the Raspberry and the newest version, about $150 now, doesn't > even have SATA ports. The Pi4 is definitely a step up from the previous versions in terms of IO, but it is still pretty limited. It has USB3 and gigabit, and they don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting maximum space out of a hard drive

2022-08-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 2:59 PM Dale wrote: > > While at it, can I move the drives on LVM to another system without > having to copy anything? Just physically move the drives and LVM see > them correctly on the new system? As long as we aren't talking about boot partitions/sectors, the answer is

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting maximum space out of a hard drive

2022-08-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 8:43 AM Dale wrote: > > I've already got data on the drive now with the default settings so it > is to late for the moment however, I expect to need to add drives > later. Keep in mind, I use LVM which means I grow file systems quite > often by adding drives. I don't know

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