This really needs to be scripted !!!
Going to bed now
On 7/21/05, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This Box:vol issue is one that trips up many newcomers
(including myself). Nancy can usually walk people
through it.
The parameters will not be the same in your
The host file is for name resolution. If a user puts in a name worksrv a
program could look into the host file and find out that it has to connect to
the IP address 38.113.0.251. You could also use DNS, it depends on how you
set up your machine to do name resolution if it uses DNS first or the
The message below makes sense. By the same token, would the following
configuration have problems resolving?
67.104.173.198 vistasrv
127.0.0.1 localhost
38.113.0.251vistasrv
Does VistA require resolving to vistasrv, or will it resolve to another
name (such as worksrv)? As in the
Yes I saw it to. Kevin and Nancy are among the protagonists of the story
(long live the HardHats).
Alberto, Odor, MD
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Ignacio
Valdes
Enviado el: Jueves, 21 de Julio de 2005 08:56 a.m.
Para:
Go to the NY Times site and look on the right hand side of the page for the
link, complete with a screen shot of the cover sheet of CPRS and Kevin
Toppenberg's photo.
http://www.NYTimes.com
--
Nancy Anthracite
---
SF.Net email is
And there is even a picture of Kevin on the first page!
-- Bhaskar
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 10:20 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote:
Yes I saw it to. Kevin and Nancy are among the protagonists of the
story
(long live the HardHats).
Alberto, Odor, MD
I think it will pick the first one. BTW, I know configuring BIND sounds
like work you'd rathert not do, but there are a lot advantages to
running DNS on your LAN.
--- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The message below makes sense. By the same token, would the following
configuration
Funny...he looks just like Tony Blair.
Okay, okay, wrong photo.
--- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Go to the NY Times site and look on the right hand side of the page
for the
link, complete with a screen shot of the cover sheet of CPRS and
Kevin
Toppenberg's photo.
Thanks Nancy,
I saw the article and I am interested in business opportunities related
to the upcoming roll-out to physicians. I was recently laid off from a
pharmaceutical job and have good contacts in physician offices in my
region. Can you give me any tips on sites to visit for training
Nice to chat with the Start - cheers for Nancy/Kevin. And thanks to everyone
for all the help./t
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To:
The Indianapolis VAMC was named one of the 25 Most Wired hospitals in the
United States by HHN magazine, and it also won one of 3 Innovator Awards
given out annually by the magazine for the implementation of the
Tele-Diabetic Eye Screening Program.
You can read about it here.
It shouldn't but traditionally the 127.0.0.1 is the first line of the host
file. I am unsure if it is a rewuirment orjust a practice.
Thanks
Marc Aylesworth
C3I Associates
AFRL/IFSE
Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
525 Brooks Rd
Rome, NY 13441-4505
Tel:315.330.2422
Fax:315.330.7009
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:30:48 -0400
From: Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom,
Go to the WorldVistA website and
Very interesting. I look forward to learning more about it when it becomes
available. What
is the middleware? Perl, Java, other? What is the crossplatform foundation for
the client?
The split-server configuration is similar to the way that we configure VMACS in
production
systems except that
I agree. And for about 2-3 months I worked on a
scripting system. But then I got my system
configured, and others didn't seem to be taking the
code and doing anything with it, so I put it on the
shelf.
I'd be happy to send you what I have if you want.
Kevin
--- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL
Don't forget that there are Cache users, too.
I kind of like Red Hat's approach of using a Python script (Anaconda)
for system setup, but that's just me.
--- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree. And for about 2-3 months I worked on a
scripting system. But then I got my system
Blush...
Kevin
--- K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And there is even a picture of Kevin on the first
page!
-- Bhaskar
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 10:20 -0500, Alberto Odor
wrote:
Yes I saw it to. Kevin and Nancy are among the
protagonists of the
story
(long live the HardHats).
Lets say we have 30 devices. What is the advantage of DNS/BIND over directly
addressing the IP?
Thanks,
Thurman
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:37 AM
To:
Medsphere has certainly put money into the development
of this technology. And I will understand if they
want a return on that investment.
Is there any way that we could develop equivalent
technology in an opensource fashion?
I don't understand the arrangement he described.
Kevin
--- Jim
The Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee on Wednesday
approved by voice vote a measure (S 1418) intended to expand the use of IT
among health care providers, CongressDaily reports.
http://www.ihealthbeat.org/index.cfm?Action=dspItemitemID=112818
--
Nancy Anthracite
My script was a M script, so it could be made to be
platform independant. It took a big XML file that
contained data settings to be put into the database,
and also code for putting that data in. And could do
the entire configuration process in about 2 minutes.
The problem is that putting some
I was thinking about going back to the beginning and developing a
script to automate the process of installing M (whether it is Cache or
GT.M) and loading the database. Once that's done, it would be possible
to just call your M script. Of course, that wouldn't be GUI.
--- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL
Hello all,
Like many people, this morning I heard about VistA for the first time and am trying to get my head around what, exactly, it does.
I understand that it handles electronic medical records. Very cool.
How about the rest of the functionality needed by a multi-location practice. Specific
The arrangement is for distributed computing. You would have a web server,
some middleware ex. Jboss or websphere application server and finally Vista
all running on computers, now these services can be running on the same
machine or separate ones. The web request gets accepted by the apache
DNS/BIND would provide a central location for the other machines to do
lookups. If there is only a few machines then you do not need it but, when
the number of machine goes past the I can easily walk to each machine and
update the host files on all of them then DNS offers a way to have all the
The two big advantages are flexibility and expandability. Beyond that,
DNS is just A records (mapping domain names to IP addresses). Other
resource record types you may find useful are CNAME records, which
allow you to create aliases for a domain, PTR records allowing you to
translate IP addresses
Bhaskar has a script to install the database and GTM into Linux, but it is the
configuration that is the problem. Once we get you to use a Linux box instead
of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things!
( ;-) I just couldn't resist ;-) )
On Thursday 21 July 2005 03:07 pm, Greg
I don't think you're wrong. M2Web is a kind of M based application
server. JBoss and Tomcat are open source options for Java based
application servers (and both come installed on OS X out of the box,
BTW). I don't know that much about M2Web, but from everything I've
heard on this list, it's
NEVER! NEVER!
(Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers
bragging about their operating system?)
--- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Once we get you to use a Linux
box instead
of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things!
===
Gregory
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:45 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache..
J.
The difference is that our middle-ware publishes a SOAP API that can be
used by any SOAP aware client (And basically every language out there
has a SOAP library of
...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have
rewritten CPRS?
J.
Todd Berman wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:45 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache..
J.
The difference is that our middle-ware publishes a
Right, and in principle, an M server could be made to speak SOAP if
there were interesdt in doing so. An alternative would be to use a more
conventional application server and something like VistaLink for data
access. This may be preferable, given that M platforms aren't
particularly well suited
Vista does billing, but I believe it is one of the more VA-specific
modules. It is that way, because of the eligibility rules, because limits on
charges are set by Congress, and because VA cannot bill Medicare. It has also
not evolved too much over the past few years, because the VA itself
VistA does have scheduling, a package it is not noted for. I have never seen
it in action, but I find it difficult to believe that a package that is
designed to handle a hospital cannot handle a clinic.
VistA-Office is virtually certain to be ported to GTM/Linux relatively soon
after its
Kevin wrote:
Medsphere has certainly put money into the development
of this technology. And I will understand if they
want a return on that investment.
I am sure that they will see a tremendous return if their solution is widely
adopted
whether Open Source or not. Making it Open Source would
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have
rewritten CPRS?
J.
Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform client
that provides the same feature-set as CPRS.
--Todd
In the next year or so, you should be able to upgrade to Pentium based
Macintosh and run
GT.M and VistA on it - and M2Web.
(p.s. I have a Linux fish on my computer monitor (from ThinkGeek). It looks
like the
others except for the dorsal fin. I hadn't thought of the Darwin fish in that
context.
The HIS version handled scheduling just
fine in a small clinic setting( 2 Docs - 2NP 1 dentist)
Thanks,
Marc Aylesworth
C3I
Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
525 Brooks Rd
Rome, NY
13441-4505
Tel:315.330.2422
Fax:315.330.7009
Email:Marc[EMAIL
He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the PowerPc
family of chips sets.
Thanks
Marc Aylesworth
C3I Associates
AFRL/IFSE
Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
525 Brooks Rd
Rome, NY 13441-4505
Tel:315.330.2422
Fax:315.330.7009
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original
Chris --
Comments below.
-- Bhaskar
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:24 -0500, Chris Cioffi wrote:
Hello all,
Like many people, this morning I heard about VistA for the first time
and am trying to get my head around what, exactly, it does.
I understand that it handles electronic medical
Now, who came up with THAT name?
--- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the
PowerPc
family of chips sets.
Thanks
Marc Aylesworth
C3I Associates
AFRL/IFSE
Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
VistA handles day-to-day scheduling of patients as well as alerts and
reminders.
Handling of X12 837 claims and 835 remits
is handled in Integrated Billing patch 232 (released around October of last
year). It may require extra work external to VistA however as such
processing is
M2Web provides a MUMPS based framework and tools for developing and running web
applications and serving MUMPS data on the web in various formats including
HTML, JSON
(Javascript Object Notation), and XML. We (UC Davis VMTH) haven't yet used the
XML format
very much because the JSON format has
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have
rewritten CPRS?
J.
Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform client
that provides the same feature-set as CPRS.
--Todd
Todd,
Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC?
BTW, is there anything like Knoppix on a CD that runs on a MAC so we can get
Greg to try GTM by hook or by crook? That excuse about well, I don't know
about GTM, ... ... I wanna fix that!
On Thursday 21 July 2005 04:45 pm, Aylesworth Marc
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have
rewritten CPRS?
J.
Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform
GT.M for x86 GNU/Linux will not run on OS X or Yellow Dog Linux on Power
PC. The reason is that GT.M is a MUMPS compiler that generates machine
code. So, the M compiler on GT.M for x86 GNU/Linux would (if it ran at
all) generate code for x86 which would not run on Power PC hardware.
Of course,
Right now, through ADC (Apple Developer Connection), Apple is really
pushing what they're calling universal binaries. I don'T quite know
what the tecchnology does, but I should look into it. Of course, the
PowerPC and Pentium are very different architectures. In addition, the
binary format is not
I have installed the latest
SemiVivA in a Redhat Enterprise Linux box.
While configuring I get:
GTM D ^%CD
%GTM-E-ZLINKFILE, Error
while zlinking %CD
%GTM-E-FILENOTFND, File %CD
not found
Alberto Odor,
MD
Mexico City
TCP/IP handling is a total non-issue with M2Web. Most applications find their
input in
local variables (most generically htInput(name) ) and either simply write their
response
to their home device or (even simpler) set it in the local variable htReturn.
M2web currently uses a CGI interface from
Alberto --
Let's see if you have a function ^%CD in your environment.
(1) what is the result of typing the following at the GTM prompt: W
$ZROU
(2) What is the output of the following command executed at the Linux
shell: find /usr/local -name _CD\*
Thanx.
-- Bhaskar
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at
All I know is that you Linux users out there seem to have an inordinate
fondness for the letter 'k'. I keep expecting to see programs like kat
and kron -- not to mention yakk.
Just remember that D ^DIK isn't the right way to do a Fileman lookup!
--- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I've written applications using both the SAX and DOM interfaces of
the MXML parser. I actually rather like it. But there are limitations,
such as being restricted to 7-bit ASCII and problems with TCP/IP
streams. My application have always read and written host files, and
I've found that it has
In Cache, you use ^%CD to change directories. I wasn't aware this
command was used in GT.M. At any rate, the proper way to do this in
VistA is D ^%ZUCI because this command should invoke the platform
appropriate code.
--- K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alberto --
Let's see if you have
Nancy wrote:
Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC?
Currently available versions of GT.M for Linux do not, unless perhaps there is
an x86
emulator for Mac that will do it. Since Macintosh in the near future will be
based on x86
and since the core of OSX is FreeBSD, GT.M should
I am not sure but it is suppose to be a standard implementation of linux. I
am trying to get my hands on my brother-in-laws old G3 and a copy of Yelow
Dog myself but things keep coming up so I don't get around to driving to MD
to get it.
Thanks
Marc Aylesworth
C3I Associates
AFRL/IFSE
Joint
What about FreeBSD? Does GT.M run on FreeBSD for the x86 platform?
--- Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nancy wrote:
Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC?
Currently available versions of GT.M for Linux do not, unless perhaps
there is an x86
emulator for Mac that will do
Good question
On 7/21/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about FreeBSD? Does GT.M run on FreeBSD for the x86 platform?
--- Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nancy wrote:
Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC?
Currently available versions of GT.M for
Alberto;
The $ZROU is the System Special Variable that indicates the directories
that will be searched for compiled objects or failing that, the text of the
routine being accessed so it can be compiled into an object for execution.
%CD will not work in GTM because that is a Cache utility.
I understand that after the Mormons were driven from Missouri, Brigham
Young said that the western part of the state would be swept so clean
that when they returned there would be not so much as a yellow dog to
wag its tail. I note that the company is based in Colorado. That just
might be it. Who
Thanks, got it
Alberto
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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Chris
Richardson
Enviado el: Jueves, 21 de Julio de 2005 05:18 p.m.
Para: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Asunto: Re: [Hardhats-members] == Error while zlinking ==
Alberto;
^%CD is a Cache routine. You don't need to use D ^%CD with GTM. Just skip
it.
On Thursday 21 July 2005 06:06 pm, Alberto Odor wrote:
I have installed the latest SemiVivA in a Redhat Enterprise Linux box.
While configuring I get:
GTM D ^%CD
%GTM-E-ZLINKFILE, Error while zlinking %CD
I believe Joseph was mentioned in there somewhere also. Goodness
gwacious me! All these celebrities - I'm going to have to bring an
autograph book to the next meeting!:-)
On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:31 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
And there is even a picture of Kevin on the first page!
--
Could be
Thanks
Marc Aylesworth
C3I Associates
AFRL/IFSE
Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
525 Brooks Rd
Rome, NY 13441-4505
Tel:315.330.2422
Fax:315.330.7009
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
The VistA demo server seemed to be down earlier, and the speculation is that
it was from being swamped with business since the NY Times article.
If that is true, wait until VO is released.
On Thursday 21 July 2005 07:46 pm, chuck5566 wrote:
I believe Joseph was mentioned in there
Someone did a great job on the search engines. In the south we know yellow
dog (democrats) well.
http://www.petloveshack.com/yellowdog.html
In 1928 when southern democrats left the party because their candidate was
Catholic, one US Senator Tom Heflin made the statement he would vote for a
yellow
Greg, I believe there is a Cache for OS X available for free download
from InterSystems.
On Jul 21, 2005, at 3:22 PM, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
NEVER! NEVER!
(Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers
bragging about their operating system?)
--- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL
Yes. Now all I have to do is figure out how to install a new
cache.dat and set up the mappings without the benefit of the Cache cube.
===
Gregory Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The policy of being too cautious is
the greatest risk of all.
--Jawaharlal Nehru
On Jul 21, 2005, at 7:27 PM,
Would it be possible to transfer an entire gtm and OpenVista directory
to a fresh linux machine after you have gotten it configured? I have 2
machines,,, one to test things out. I really hope that IF and WHEN I
get this working,,, I won't have to do it anymore.
On 7/21/05, Gregory Woodhouse
Pkale;
Yes, it is possible, but run down the dataset before you copy the files.
You must also keep the directory structure instact and make sure you have
the setups. Bhaskar, I am sure I have missed something. Now one of the
gotcha's is that you have two machines, one with the correct IP
I'm trying rpctest as well as CPRSchart. If I run the client on the
physical server box, it works. This had me suspecting the network,
firewall, etc. but then I install Windump on the server and the client. The
listener is running on 9210. When I connect from rpctest or CPRSchart I see
the
You can download a Cache eval (Cache PC) for Windows NT, Windows 2000,
Windows XP, Windows Server 2003(Caché 5.0.2 or better), Mac OS X, Red Hat
Linux, and SuSE Linux by going to
http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html
More info about this eval is at
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