[H] Dual Layer

2005-07-19 Thread Winterlight
How well do stand alone DVD players support home burned dual layer DVDs? What is the current primary use for dual layer? I mean what do people use it for? How reliable is the 8.5 GB burns. You pay a huge premium for dual layer media so I am wondering what do people use it for. With prices

[H] more keyboard fun

2005-07-19 Thread Jim Edwards
http://www.ergodex.com/content.php?id=14 For gaming but -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 7/18/2005

RE: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 08:15 AM 7/19/2005, Christopher Klein typed: It all depends...every system is different. This is why I don't like to quote a per hour fee as I'm not a plumber. Many times I'll only charge $50 for cleaning a system maintaining their data intact while the other shops are charging several

RE: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:15 AM 19/07/2005, Christopher Klein wrote: It all depends...every system is different. My fiancee's parent's computer for example. It was an old pentium, dial up modem, but had over 600 pieces of spyware. It took hours for adaware to run. Of course that was a freebie as it is family

RE: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:34 AM 19/07/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote: This is why I don't like to quote a per hour fee as I'm not a plumber. Many times I'll only charge $50 for cleaning a system maintaining their data intact while the other shops are charging several hundred for wiping the machine all it's data

Re: [H] more keyboard fun

2005-07-19 Thread Al
Jim Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ergodex.com/content.php?id=14 For gaming but Here is an interesting key layout: http://www.sakamura-lab.org/TRON/proj95/GIFDATA/BTRON-2.gif A whole keyboard in 7 keys:

RE: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:47 AM 19/07/2005, Christopher Klein wrote: When I get a customer who has an insane amount of spyware, I try to take it home with me. If I can watch TV, or do something else while running the scan I don't charge them nearly as much...maybe an hour total depending. That's my approach as

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Ben Ruset
I've switched to $90/hr, $60/hr each additional. Seems to work out OK for me. Oftentimes, though, I will round down so 1.5hr ends up being $90. I may be too nice. Wayne Johnson wrote: Hey if they insist on a per hour fee then I'll quote them $100/hr for a stand alone machine $150/hr if it's

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:50 AM Subject: RE: [H] Disposable computers I was just wondering about the average time it takes you. I find it takes at least four hours

RE: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Chris Reeves
There is a fundamental difference between doing it in a shop and at their local. If we do it at a shop, we have tons of techs who can work on 10+ PCs at once with multiple benches setup. So cost to us is less, cost to the customer is less. If I (or anyone) has to go to them, we are -only-

RE: [H] norton corporate AV ?

2005-07-19 Thread Hayes Elkins
Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH user of the client pc. From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:04:16 -0400 Windows

Re: [H] norton corporate AV ?

2005-07-19 Thread Eli Allen
The registry can be manipulated remotely - Original Message - Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH user of the client pc. From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE:

RE: [H] norton corporate AV ?

2005-07-19 Thread FORC5
do you have any links about this ? recently put 10 in ( from 9 ) but really hadn't notice any problems. ( or improvements over 9 either ) if a major bug I could go back to 9 fp At 07:27 AM 7/19/2005, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with: Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by EACH

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread warpmedia
I think you're all missing the point that GS represents the state of the repair business vs. the cost of today's PC's. They're charging a set fee (and insane one) and getting it for REPEATED bad work on a daily basis. So yes, those of you charging less or feeling you need to give a customer a

[H] Wireless NIC

2005-07-19 Thread Christopher Klein
I'm moving to a new apartment and will probably go 100% wireless. I prefer cat cable, but I want to keep this place neat. Is there any difference between a wireless usb nic, and a pci nic? I see the usb nics are cheaper. Do they have as high a transfer rate? Thanks, Chris

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Ben Ruset
The one thing that GS has that nobody else can touch is the brand. Most customers (lemmings) feel safer dealing with a big name company rather than Joe Blow Computer the sole proprietorship. It gives customers a sense of security in that they have a large company to hold accountable when there

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread warpmedia
Bullshit, charge them the fee, reformat then charge them to setup the system network to properly defend them against future problems. That is a much more efficient use of their funds then cleaning a system that may or MAY NOT be clean when you're done. It also frees your from the nightmare of

Re: [H] Music mixing app

2005-07-19 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I second the recommedation of Audacity. It's pretty much Cool Edit without the cost. Steve On 7/19/05, Harry McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it will do everything you want, but take a look at Audacity, audacity.sf.net Harry On Mon, 2005-07-18 at

[H] Re: Music mixing app

2005-07-19 Thread Chris Shaw
How about Goldwave? http://www.goldwave.com/ On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:00:03 GMT joeuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered if I was asking to much... Thanks for the input. Veech wrote: hoo boy, musid mixing apps don't come cheap, let alone free. Some may offer a 30-day trial demo,

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:11 AM 19/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: I've switched to $90/hr, $60/hr each additional. Seems to work out OK for me. Oftentimes, though, I will round down so 1.5hr ends up being $90. I may be too nice. It's $55 Cdn an hour here - only for onsite calls, however. T

Re: [H] Latest 2000 roll up patch

2005-07-19 Thread warpmedia
When my i8200 is manually suspended, I must push the power switch to wake it up again. Otherwise it wakes on keyboard or mouse activity from simple sleeping. Are you sure that all the Allow this device to wake settings are still enabled in the NIC setup, etc...? Ben Ruset wrote: Check your

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 11:14 AM 7/19/2005, warpmedia typed: They're charging a set fee (and insane one) and getting it for REPEATED bad work on a daily basis. So yes, those of you charging less or feeling you need to give a customer a break are ripping yourselves off. Are you kidding? We're killing HP. lol See

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread joeuser
I'd say it takes about 4 hours to be thorough. Sometimes a little longer for machines with unknown malware that you have to root out by hand. I quote 2 to 3 hours to the customer. Once in awhile I can get done quickly but anymore it takes longer then I quote. I always give a free hour in the

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 12:14 PM 19/07/2005, warpmedia wrote: I'd say were going the direction of car repair where there is a set time fee allotted to a task and if you can get it done faster, the more profit in your pocket. This should be fine by us all since it free us from multi-hour surgeries potentially

Re: [H] Wireless NIC

2005-07-19 Thread warpmedia
CPU usage is likely higher with USB vs. PCI. Christopher Klein wrote: I'm moving to a new apartment and will probably go 100% wireless. I prefer cat cable, but I want to keep this place neat. Is there any difference between a wireless usb nic, and a pci nic? I see the usb nics are

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 12:21 PM 19/07/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: The one thing that GS has that nobody else can touch is the brand. Most customers (lemmings) feel safer dealing with a big name company rather than Joe Blow Computer the sole proprietorship. It gives customers a sense of security in that they have a

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread joeuser
Same here. I try to be as ruthless as possible with my on site charges esp when I could do the work back at the shop and the customer has been so informed. Thane Sherrington wrote: At 09:47 AM 19/07/2005, Christopher Klein wrote: When I get a customer who has an insane amount of spyware,

Re: [H] Wireless NIC

2005-07-19 Thread joeuser
I think they are the same but when you can move the USB NIC around to obtain a better signal it's a better deal. I use and sell USB NIC's. Christopher Klein wrote: I'm moving to a new apartment and will probably go 100% wireless. I prefer cat cable, but I want to keep this place neat. Is

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread CW
To get bonded is nothing.. just have no felony convictions, have insurance, and pay a very small fee. It's nothing. -Original message- From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:39:27 -0500 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H]

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread warpmedia
Lemmings don't think, so I doubt it's the bonded insured thing (which I wonder just how much if at all they are BI). It's not more, it's about the same with a few things broken out priced that regular shops would just charge per hour for. Bottom line is one size fits all, ala cart pricing.

Re: [H] Re: Music mixing app

2005-07-19 Thread Steve Tomporowski
IIRC Goldwave is shareware. Audacity is Freeware. Might be the only difference. I've never used Goldwave. Steve On 7/19/05, Chris Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about Goldwave? http://www.goldwave.com/ On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:00:03 GMT joeuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Thane Sherrington wrote: I agree. And it's easier for the customer. Which would you prefer if you didn't know anything about computers: Virus and spyware removal - $32 or Virus and spyware removal - $45 per hour and it could take two or more hours, but we can't say

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread warpmedia
And what retail repair business does HP run? I stand by my statement that by trying to be a good guy you are stealing from yourself. Though I agree the customer is much better served by bringing the machine to you to be work on at your convince vs. paying inflated on-site charges. I mean,

Re: [H] Wireless NIC

2005-07-19 Thread warpmedia
Show me a good USB nic with an antenna then? Last time I bought one from netgear, I found the customer got better reception with the card antenna. To be fair, I have the same antenna issues with PCMCIA card on my laptop but put up with it. Also I had thought that USB created more CPU

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Ben Ruset
Thane Sherrington wrote: I'm insured, but not bonded. Is that something I should consider? I dunno. I'm not even insured. But then again I try to limit dealing with on-site service or really anything outside of my 9-5 IT job.

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 12:43 PM 19/07/2005, CW wrote: To get bonded is nothing.. just have no felony convictions, have insurance, and pay a very small fee. It's nothing. I thought so. Why would anyone really care? T

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread CW
Slight difference though; the car doesn't contain nudie pictures of their wife, their checkbook, and video of that wild party in Cabo San Lucas. :) .. Most people have stuff in their PC maybe they don't want to be in the hands of others, free to be spread at will or copied off for some tech

Re: [H] Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. et al. v. Grokster, Ltd., et al.

2005-07-19 Thread warpmedia
One simple question: How much did GL loose due to STW3 being pirated? Answer, who cares he set a record at the box office for revenue anyway! If I'm a lazy apathetic ass who d/ls movies or waits watches on cable (hbo, showtime, etc...) what money did they or do they stand to gain from me in the

Re: [H] Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. et al. v. Grokster, Ltd., et al.

2005-07-19 Thread warpmedia
Whoops, thought that went to trash! warpmedia wrote: One simple question: How much did GL loose due to STW3 being pirated? Answer, who cares he set a record at the box office for revenue anyway!

Re: [H] Latest 2000 roll up patch

2005-07-19 Thread Winterlight
At 08:34 AM 7/19/2005, you wrote: When my i8200 is manually suspended, I must push the power switch to wake it up again. Otherwise it wakes on keyboard or mouse activity from simple sleeping. Well, my latitude didn't behave like this before the patch, but now I can not let it stand by or it

Re: [H] Latest 2000 roll up patch

2005-07-19 Thread warpmedia
Which is why I was saying to check the various devices like NIC Mouse, etc... to make sure they have Allow this device to bring system out of standby checked. Many of those update could have changed that. If not, then I'd guess you're right it's a bug. Winterlight wrote: At 08:34 AM

[H] Spyware tools

2005-07-19 Thread Chris Shaw
I've been following the cheap computer thread closely. What are you guys using to clean up the spyware? I've seen a couple of articles where several of the more popular were tested most of them are claiming that CounterSpy is at the top. Some of the articles have been blasting MS several

RE: [H] Spyware tools

2005-07-19 Thread Chris Reeves
I think you're a fool if you don't use more then 1. I keep an Bart disc around with Spybot SD 1.4, Ad-Aware, and then with net access, I use TrendMicro's scanner. CW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Shaw Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005

Re: [H] Spyware tools

2005-07-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:39 PM 19/07/2005, W. D. wrote: SpywareBlaster I use that as well, but didn't mention it, since it's an innoculator, not a cleaner. XCleaner Never tried it. T

RE: [H] norton corporate AV ?

2005-07-19 Thread Hayes Elkins
Check your memory footprint. The average footprint is close to 75-100MB, and shrinks to about 25MB post fix. (Assuming the only snap-in is the outlook module. The lotus and SMTP modules balloon it further) From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Re: [H] Spyware tools

2005-07-19 Thread Greg Sevart
I'm not hugely fond of CounterSpy, myself. I've been using Ad-aware, Spybot, SpySweeper, Hijaack This (and of course, most AVs also do at least some Spyware now.) I use Ad-Aware, SpySweeper, and MS AntiSpyware. I've really started to depreciate Spybot...other tools seem to be vastly

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread joeuser
Samsung or Xerox. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [H] Disposable computers LOL! Yeah, I love it. HP slowly destroys

Re: [H] norton corporate AV ?

2005-07-19 Thread TX-GM
Does the problem exist with most recent version 10.0.1.1000? - Original Message - From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [H] norton corporate AV ? Oh and the real joy is that this needs to be executed by

Re: [H] norton corporate AV ?

2005-07-19 Thread Hayes Elkins
Yes. From: TX-GM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] norton corporate AV ? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:13:47 -0500 Does the problem exist with most recent version 10.0.1.1000? - Original

Re: [H] norton corporate AV ?

2005-07-19 Thread Ben Ruset
Ugh. I've switched all of our corporate PC's to ClamWin anti-virus. Seems to do a good job, auto-updates, and best of all - is free. I have never liked Symantec/Norton AV. Best commercial product I have used has been McAfee VirusScan Enterprise, but it's expensive and their central management

RE: [H] norton corporate AV ?

2005-07-19 Thread Chris Reeves
On the corporate level, I really like TrendMicro's OfficeScan series. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:36 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] norton corporate AV ? Ugh. I've switched all of

Re: [H] norton corporate AV ?

2005-07-19 Thread Ben Ruset
We played with that. The boss didn't want to pay for it so we switched to Clam. Chris Reeves wrote: On the corporate level, I really like TrendMicro's OfficeScan series. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Tuesday, July 19,

Re: [H] Disposable computers

2005-07-19 Thread Jin-Wei Tioh
At 06:09 PM 7/19/2005, you wrote: Samsung or Xerox. -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key) Wow, has HP really fallen that far? The most recent printers I have are 3 old faithful 6MPs. Built like tanks - been working great since 1995. Also have 3P somewhere, though the rollers

[H] Firefox 1.06 out

2005-07-19 Thread Chris Reeves
You know where. CW

Re: [H] Firefox 1.06 out

2005-07-19 Thread Francisco Tapia
what the?... there was just a 1.0.5 release... what's fixed in 1.0.6On 7/19/05, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know where. CW -- -Franciscohttp://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon!http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...