Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-03 Thread Peter M (Mashy)
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] try 36! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-03 Thread Daniel
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hope ManiMod, SourceMM, SourceMod, and Eventscripts all go on that allowed list right off the bat. On 4/27/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you write a plugin that runs client commands and you believe you have a command that

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-03 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It was bloody ManiMod that was the main cause of the issue in the first place /sigh On 5/4/07, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hope ManiMod, SourceMM, SourceMod, and Eventscripts all go on

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread James Tucker
The question is, are you willing to take responsibility for security breaches on client machines as a result of executable code you have sent those machines via the Source network system? The simplest example would be to point the internal browser at a site which contains IE exploits, there are

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread Yo Mama's A Chump
First of all it is the users responsibility to protect themselves from such attacks seeing as they can come from anywhere. The MOTD can point to a malicious website... what does that have to do with client exec? Secondly this is a pattern by Valve. They add these great features that break mods

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread LDuke
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I can think of only 2 major plugin functions affected by this. One is server forwarding. I've heard from people operating 50 servers that all forward to one, and I've joined many of these types of servers, so I'm not unhappy about this change at

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread Wim Barelds
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The alias command, however there's no chance on valve unlocking that due to it's potentially unsafe nature. This is why it was ideal to have the end user be able to choose. There's a huge difference between enforcing a certain cvar and policing

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread Einar S. Idsø
LDuke wrote: I can't think of another valid reason to use a client exec from a plugin. I don't understand why there is so much outcry. What client commands (other than those listed above) are you execing on players that you miss so much with the restrictions? Grant (L. Duke) The ability to

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread chad
Bind s kill LDuke wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I can think of only 2 major plugin functions affected by this. One is server forwarding. I've heard from people operating 50 servers that all forward to one, and I've joined many of these types of servers, so I'm not

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread Adam Sando
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LDuke Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2007 11:53 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread Andreas Grimm
. Mai 2007 03:34 An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I agree with LDuke on this. All these new features and lock-down type changes are all good, however the biggest threat that I see at the moment

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-28 Thread Alfred Reynolds
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan E Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:45 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) Yes, I commend Valve for getting betas out now instead of having things come out

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)
: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaydaX Sent

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Wim Barelds
] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread ymac
] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Keeper
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:23 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) Amen. What is going on here? It seems that Valve

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread NaughtyGeek
I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all jumped up and down and said we needed betas before releases and here we are with a beta to test. Change is a necessary evil and most of the people here seem to have made assumptions with the information that was provided. The

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Mick
] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) Plugin makers work hard to make plugins that help server operators as well as bring some new fun into the game for players

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all jumped up and down and said we needed betas before releases and here we are with a beta to test. Change

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Dan E
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:24 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Rohn, Michael E
: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all jumped up and down and said we needed betas before releases and here we are with a beta to test. Change is a necessary evil and most of the people here seem

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Hell Phoenix
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:24 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Alfred Reynolds
removed, zBlock needs to be updated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:24 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Alfred Reynolds
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:24 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Jason O. Washburn
I agree:-) Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:24 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Wim Barelds
. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan E Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:45 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) Yes, I commend

[hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread MaydaX
The cl_restrict_server_commands cvar is not found in the beta version I get kicked from zBlock enabled servers for not having it set to 0. Also server plug ins can exec client commands. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Alfred Reynolds
The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaydaX Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:12 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Andreas Grimm
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The cl_restrict_server_commands cvar is not found in the beta version I get kicked from zBlock enabled servers for not having it set to 0. Also server plug ins can exec

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Wim Barelds
: The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaydaX Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:12 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Benjamin Lange
. April 2007 23:28 An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. - Alfred

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Benjamin Lange
: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Wim Barelds
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
Reading what he said: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:12 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The cl_restrict_server_commands cvar is not found in the beta version I get kicked from zBlock

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Cc2iscooL
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. - Alfred -Original Message- From

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Wim Barelds
, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. - Alfred -Original Message- From

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread James Gray
@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The cl_restrict_server_commands cvar is not found in the beta version I get kicked from zBlock enabled servers for not having it set to 0. Also server plug ins can exec client