Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-04 Thread Wim Barelds
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] He's not talking about adding plugins to the allow list, but adding variables/commands to the allow list. Example being the "play" command, which can be executed on clients regardles of "cl_restrict_server_commands" value. On 5/4/07, Whisper <[EM

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-03 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It was bloody ManiMod that was the main cause of the issue in the first place /sigh On 5/4/07, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hope ManiMod, SourceMM, SourceMod, and Eventscripts all g

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-03 Thread Daniel
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hope ManiMod, SourceMM, SourceMod, and Eventscripts all go on that allowed list right off the bat. On 4/27/07, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you write a plugin that runs client commands and you believe you have > a command tha

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-03 Thread Peter M (Mashy)
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] try 36! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread Andreas Grimm
. Mai 2007 03:34 An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I agree with LDuke on this. All these new features and lock-down type changes are all good, however the biggest threat that I see at the moment, is

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread Adam Sando
ards, Adam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LDuke Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2007 11:53 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) -- [ Picked text/plain from

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread chad
Bind s kill LDuke wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I can think of only 2 major plugin functions affected by this. One is server forwarding. I've heard from people operating 50 servers that all forward to one, and I've joined many of these types of servers, so I'm not u

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread Einar S. Idsø
LDuke wrote: > I can't think of another valid reason to use a client exec from a plugin. I > don't understand why there is so much outcry. What client commands (other > than those listed above) are you execing on players that you miss so much > with the restrictions? > > Grant > (L. Duke) The abil

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread Wim Barelds
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The alias command, however there's no chance on valve unlocking that due to it's potentially unsafe nature. This is why it was ideal to have the end user be able to choose. There's a huge difference between enforcing a certain cvar and policing e

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread LDuke
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I can think of only 2 major plugin functions affected by this. One is server forwarding. I've heard from people operating 50 servers that all forward to one, and I've joined many of these types of servers, so I'm not unhappy about this change at

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread Yo Mama's A Chump
First of all it is the users responsibility to protect themselves from such attacks seeing as they can come from anywhere. The MOTD can point to a malicious website... what does that have to do with client exec? Secondly this is a pattern by Valve. They add these great "features" that break mods a

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-05-02 Thread James Tucker
The question is, are you willing to take responsibility for security breaches on client machines as a result of executable code you have sent those machines via the Source network system? The simplest example would be to point the internal browser at a site which contains IE exploits, there are m

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-28 Thread Alfred Reynolds
t;> Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server >> beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) >> >> Yes, I commend Valve for getting betas out now instead of having >> things come out broken. I've already tried to help by letting >> Alfred know about som

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Wim Barelds
ied to help by letting Alfred know about > some > issues with the new release. I'm just curious as to what the missing > cl_restrict... is about. > > Dan > > -----Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek > Sen

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Jason O. Washburn
I agree:-) Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:24 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I&#

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Alfred Reynolds
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:24 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Alfred Reynolds
s] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The betas are awesome...nobody is disagreeing with that. The point is that a fairly major feature has been changed...and it wasnt even in the changelog. And then when asked about it, it was like an afterthought "Oh

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Hell Phoenix
d, zBlock needs to be updated." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:24 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_serve

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Keeper
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:24 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Rohn, Michael E
s] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all jumped up and down and said we needed betas before releases and here we are with a beta to test. Change is a necessary evil and most of the people he

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Dan E
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:24 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with you on t

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all jumped up and down and said we needed betas before releases and here we are with a beta to test. Change

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Mick
Keeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) Plugin makers work hard to make plugins that help server operators as well as bring some new fun into th

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread NaughtyGeek
I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all jumped up and down and said we needed betas before releases and here we are with a beta to test. Change is a necessary evil and most of the people here seem to have made assumptions with the information that was provided. The cl_r

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Keeper
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:23 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) Amen. What is going on here? It seems

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread ymac
> > broken... I really don't see how you can remove a perfectly >> >> functional >> >> > and >> >> > > save >> >> > > feature out of the blue. >> >> > > >> >> > > On 4/26/07, Affordable

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Wim Barelds
; > broken... I really don't see how you can remove a perfectly > >> functional > >> > and > >> > > save > >> > > feature out of the blue. > >> > > > >> > > On 4/26/07, Affordablegameservers.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-27 Thread Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)
gt; > able > > > to run commands on clients (ie plugins will work now without the cvar > > set > > > to > > > 0) > > > thanks > > > dex > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread James Gray
plugins will work now without the cvar > > set > > > to > > > 0) > > > thanks > > > dex > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynold

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Wim Barelds
; now its always on) or that its been removed period so now servers are > > able > > > to run commands on clients (ie plugins will work now without the cvar > > set > > > to > > > 0) > > > thanks > > > dex > > > > > >

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Cc2iscooL
t > > to > > 0) > > thanks > > dex > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
Reading what he said: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:12 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta > (cl_restrict_server_commands) > > The cl_restrict_server_commands cvar is not found in the beta version I

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Wim Barelds
; dex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta > (cl_restric

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Benjamin Lange
D] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta > (cl_restrict_server_commands) > > > The restrict cvar has been remo

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. - Alfred

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Benjamin Lange
PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Alfred Reynolds > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. April 2007 23:28 > An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Betreff: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta > (cl_restrict_server_commands) > > The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Wim Barelds
.com > Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta > (cl_restrict_server_commands) > > The cl_restrict_server_commands cvar is not found in the beta version I > get kicked from zBlock enabled servers for not having

Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Andreas Grimm
: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) The cl_restrict_server_commands cvar is not found in the beta version I get kicked from zBlock enabled servers for not having it set to 0. Also server plug ins can exec

RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread Alfred Reynolds
The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaydaX Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:12 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine

[hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands)

2007-04-26 Thread MaydaX
The cl_restrict_server_commands cvar is not found in the beta version I get kicked from zBlock enabled servers for not having it set to 0. Also server plug ins can exec client commands. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list a