[Hornlist] silver plating rationale

2004-10-07 Thread hans
Thank you all for your input regarding your experience of sound changes after silver plating your instrument, but I was not interested to hear your experience, as I have my own allready. I was I am still very interested about the rationale behind the sound change as explained, so to know more

RE: [Hornlist] silver plating rationale

2004-10-07 Thread amade
Just a thought - how much heat would be transferred to metal under these plating conditions? Would it be similar to the cryo process - in that the returning to normal room temp that allows the metal to relax further (i.e. the heating up of the brass) and not the freezing of the brass - if the

RE: [Hornlist] silver plating rationale

2004-10-07 Thread hans
Hello Simon, the parts are not spezial heated except for the ultra sonic bath which works at best at temperatures between 75 85 degrees Celsius. The parts (horns) are left in the ultra sonic cleaning device (including the liquid) for between 2,5 to 3,5 minutes. This cannot make any difference at

Re: [Hornlist] silver plating rationale

2004-10-07 Thread Paul Mansur
On Thursday, October 7, 2004, at 07:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scientists, you are asked for an explanation. Well, in the first place, there aren't very many scientists on the horn list. Second, they don't really know what happens. Some think they know and some know they don't know.

RE: [Hornlist] silver plating rationale

2004-10-07 Thread hans
Hello Paul, long time friend, just one competent answer would be enough. It would alse be good, if the readers would read the questions carefully, as they are serious. One might have a friend working in the metallurgy field . By the way, use your search machine search for pizfried.mov Get

[Hornlist] Newbie question

2004-10-07 Thread Steve Freides
I'm new to the horn; without going into a lot of detail, let's just say I'm not new to music. Please forgive me if I talk about notes in concert pitch some of the time - I've got perfect pitch and have never played a transposing instrument before so it's just easier for me. A question: why is

[Hornlist] List Etiquette

2004-10-07 Thread Steve Freides
In response to my posting a little while ago to the list, I've received two replies, both privately to me and not to the list - is that the way this list usually works? Most other lists I've been on encourage the conversation to stay on the list (Is it perhaps because I've asked an oft-asked

Re: [Hornlist] Newbie question

2004-10-07 Thread Paul Mansur
On Thursday, October 7, 2004, at 11:59 AM, Steve Freides wrote: A question: why is the fingering for concert D above middle C (written as A above middle C for horn in F if I've got this right) not given as open (no valves) in the fingering chart in my beginners horn book for B-flat horn? Hi,

[Hornlist] Robert Routch

2004-10-07 Thread phirsch
Bob Routch (assuming you are not referring to him and not the horn maker Dan? Rauch) does not appear to be a current member of Local 802. There is a listing for a Robert Routch 41 Shady Ln, Dobbs Ferry, NY 10522-2016 (914) 478-4946 in the online phone directory (www.switchboard.com) that I use.

RE: [Hornlist] silver plating rationale

2004-10-07 Thread Herbert Foster
There are many scientists and engineers on the list. You can tell a scientist's answer because it's usually qualified with some reservations. We know we don't know all the answers. That's why most scientists don't make good politicians. So far it seems that the measured data indicate that plating

RE: [Hornlist] Newbie question

2004-10-07 Thread Steve Freides
Thank you for your detailed reply, Paul. I was into math and science before I was into music, and I'm well acquainted with the overtone series. I was one of the few in my undergraduate music school who actually enjoyed the class - most of my fellow musicians found it torture and I ended up

Re: [Hornlist] silver plating rationale

2004-10-07 Thread Carl Vidos
On 10/7/04 9:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, use your search machine search for pizfried.mov Get the surprise. Best wishes Hans Oh my! On a single F horn. I cannot possibly imagine what it takes to be able to do this. Do you give lessons? It is extremely

Re: [Hornlist] silver plating rationale

2004-10-07 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
I can't find pizfried.mov anywhere - am I doing something wrong or is this something only the wise can see? All the best, Lawrence þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set

Re: [Hornlist] Newbie question

2004-10-07 Thread Klifemom
In a message dated 10/7/2004 12:45:02 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fascinating instrument, this horn. Thanks again to you and to everyone who has responded. So, Steve with the perfect pitch, which instrument was your first choice earlier in life? I am curious.

[Hornlist] Re: Newbie question

2004-10-07 Thread Brent Shires
Steve, Since I'm in digest mode, someone may have already answered this question before I get to it. But to make a long story short, This concert D you speak of is not available as an in-tune harmonic on the F horn. To play it open would require much adjustment, either with lip or the hand, and

RE: [Hornlist] Newbie question

2004-10-07 Thread Jonathan West
A question: why is the fingering for concert D above middle C (written as A above middle C for horn in F if I've got this right) not given as open (no valves) in the fingering chart in my beginners horn book for B-flat horn? Two reasons. 1. The various design compromises on an F/Bb

RE: [Hornlist] Newbie question

2004-10-07 Thread Steve Freides
-Original Message- On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:54 PM So, Steve with the perfect pitch, which instrument was your first choice earlier in life? I am curious. Forgive me if you already stated that, I tried to read through all of the

[Hornlist] pizfried.mov siegmail.mov

2004-10-07 Thread hans
You can find it at www.pizka.de/WrHrPlay5.htm scroll down this page find these two links other goodies. Pizfried is about 2 MB, siegmail is about 800KB but much smaller as picture. Sound is the same. Greetings Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136 D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone:

RE: [Hornlist] 8 Bayreuther Festspieler Hornisten

2004-10-07 Thread hans
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Re: [Hornlist] Sound reflectors

2004-10-07 Thread Jeremy Bowles
I have used sound Reflectors in my band. They work great, but if you put them too close, you can't hear anything but horn (which isn't really a bad thing). I would put them around 2 to 3 feet away from the bell. I have used a flat surface, rectangular shaped reflector. on the angle, it

[Hornlist] Christmas music for voice, horn and piano

2004-10-07 Thread Benno Heinemann
Hello, I was wondering if anyone can recommend any interesting good quality pieces of a Christmassy nature for Horn, Voice and piano. I see there is a Christmas Carol by a certain I. Storfer in Mr. Köbls catalogue. Does anyone know if this is a nice piece? And what kind of style? Thank you all

Re: [Hornlist] List Etiquette

2004-10-07 Thread Billbamberg
The subject of fingering is one of those subjects that some of the pros feel strongly that they are the only ones qualified to answer definitively. From my own experience, just about every horn is different with regard to permissable fingerings. My main double allows almost any remotely

[Hornlist] The art of Brass Playing

2004-10-07 Thread Maki Nishiuchi
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Re: [Hornlist] OK, a not-so-newbie question

2004-10-07 Thread Scott Pappal
Written A (horn in F) played on Thumb Valve alone tends to be quite flat. Reason? Simple: its position in the overtone series as 5th (a1) and 10th (a2) harmonics. Most good horn players don't play a1 with anything other than T12 as their primary fingering, although many horn players have an

Re: [Hornlist] Bb horn stopped fingerings

2004-10-07 Thread Gerry Onciul
Bill Bamberg said: The other thing that's fun to experiment with is to find Bb fingerings that work for stopped horn. Bill, the only Bb stopped fingerings that work for me start on a1 and go chromatically to c3. The notes below that are badly out of tune. I'd like to caution that these

RE: [Hornlist] Christmas music for voice, horn and piano

2004-10-07 Thread Steve Freides
I've already done a couple of simple arrangements of Christmas Carols for two horns. Being that both I and my wife are singers and we both also play the piano, I'd be delighted to try my hand at arranging a Christmas Carol for you, if that's something you're interested in. No charge, public

Re: [Hornlist] Bb horn stopped fingerings

2004-10-07 Thread Gerry Onciul
Bill Bamberg said: The other thing that's fun to experiment with is to find Bb fingerings that work for stopped horn. The Bb fingerings I use, going up chromatically, for stopped horn, are (let's try this again): a1 - 23, Bb1 - 3, b1 - 13, c2 - 23, c#2 - 12, d2 - 1, Eb2 - 2, e2 - 0, f2 -