Re: How do I get parms passed from STD linkage to my C program?

2006-11-17 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
want but now I need to pass parameters to it. I have set up standard linkage on the Assembler side with my parms. How in my C program do I get the parms out of standard linkage? Have you tried #pragma linkage(whateverfunctionitis, OS) ? Cheers, Jantje. P.S. It doesn't hurt reading:

Re: P390

2006-11-17 Thread Denis Gäbler
Hi, I have a question regarding developing z/OS Software education. Is that considered to be development or production use? Thanks. Denis Gaebler. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 7:25 AM Subject: Re: P390 On

Problems concatenating pds/e member

2006-11-17 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, We just migrated to z/OS 1.7 We have the following step: //COPYOVD2 EXEC SORT50 //SORTIN DD DSN=N641.PCHA.TLUSH-OL.DATA(OVEDALL),DISP=SHR // DD DSN=N641.PCHA.TLUSH-OL.DATA(OBIZ0169),DISP=SHR //SORTOUT DD

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:07:59 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I was going to school there wasn't even a computer science department. Everything was part of the math department. University of Waterloo, Degree in Computer Science, Minor in Statistics, 1981. They had the degree

IBMLink

2006-11-17 Thread John Eells
The IBMLink team asked me to post this on their behalf: Through other IBM colleagues, the IBMLink team had seen some recent postings about IBMLink on the IBM-MAIN forum. The availability and reliability of the production system is our highest priority. We know that outages are a huge

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
OK, if we're going to start the who is the grayest in the crowd, let me toss in my hat. 1968 - started correspondence classes in IBM through American Automation Training Center, Columbus, Ohio. 1969 - residence in same. Learned 402/403, punch, interpreter, PL/1, RPG, COBOL, etc. Due to a

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Seubert Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe? snip Take a look here:

Pedantry (was RE: Shane's antipodes)

2006-11-17 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Kopischke [ snip ] This thread reminds me of a discussion I had with my wife during an automotive purchase outing. She was looking at the Lexus. I like them too. ... Lexus ... multiples ... Lexipodes ???

1401 and MUSIC

2006-11-17 Thread Phil Payne
Wasn't MUSIC McGill's predecessor to TSO? Another MUSIC. Machine Utilization Statistics and Information Collection. Wrote to SYS1.ACCTA and SYS1.ACCTB alternately. I'm not sure what data it collected - it was just a flaming nuisance to me. I think it only collected at end of step, but it

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/17/2006 at 08:07 AM, Daniel A. McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OK, if we're going to start the who is the grayest in the crowd, let me toss in my hat. First, I've got you beat by almost a decade. Second, I've seen posts here from people whom I recognized as

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I know there are lots of folks out there who surpass my time in the field. It's always fun to see what types of responses we can elicit. Our entire mainframe support staff here for the systems side is in the 50+ bracket, and that is a kind estimate. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/17/2006 7:09:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IBM is rejecting this, this AM with an error code of 400. Hmmm, I got in fine. Still same ol' dog poop it's been from the beginning. Maybe the IBMLink team is cross dressing as Educators?

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Thomas Berg
When *I* was going to school there were only a square wheel department! (Sorry!) Thomas Berg == Tom Marchant == wrote2006-11-16 17:09: On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:56:19 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ex-boss is teaching mainframe courses at

Re: SMF UPDATE RECORD

2006-11-17 Thread John Kington
Judy, Does anyone know if SMF has an SMF UPDATE record? I need to find out when and who updated a VSAM file. Also if you have the JCL to do that with, that would help. or point me to the JCL. SMF type 64 record is what you need. Since you are starting from scratch, I believe you should get DAF

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Due to a little interruption called Viet Nam didn't actually start twiddling bits until December 73. in the early 80s, i sponsored a

Re: Shane's antipodes

2006-11-17 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 Nov 2006 21:07:29 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane) wrote: As others have said, history and common usage have won this one. Who knows, given the accuracy of the maps of the time, maybe they calculated The Antipodes Islands to be truly antipodal to Britain. Didn't miss by much really. I saw

Re: QUESTION ON DFDSS - DELCATE PARM

2006-11-17 Thread Andrew N Wilt
Hello, The DELETECATALOGENTRY keyword may be responsible for what you are seeing. However, it should only be issuing a DELETE NOSCRATCH for data set names that are catalog entries, not for aliases. I guess it could be the case that your alias may be exactly the same as the name of a data set

Re: Shane's antipodes

2006-11-17 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 Nov 2006 14:29:13 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: Don't blame the dictionary. Blame the degradation of common discourse. However, language has been degrading forever. Every word in every language has degraded from something before. Syntax has degraded. And every

Re: 1401 and MUSIC

2006-11-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip Printers were fun sometimes. I once saw an IBM engineer who'd been told by his boss to clean the 1043s. I came upon the scene just after the event, but it was obvious he dodn't know what he was doing. The usual way was to take the

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip-- OK, if we're going to start the who is the grayest in the crowd, let me toss in my hat. 1968 - started correspondence classes in IBM through American Automation Training Center, Columbus, Ohio. 1969 - residence in same. Learned 402/403,

Re: Pedantry (was RE: Shane's antipodes)

2006-11-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip-- I'm sure you meant to write Native American instead of American Indian, right? :-) ---unsnip--- The Native Americans that I know, mostly Ottawa and Oglala Sioux, are offended by Native American. They will tell

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip When *I* was going to school there were only a square wheel department! -unsnip--- LOL! Did you major in Saber-Tooth Tiger Riding or Wooly Mammoth Shearing? BIG G

IBM Cobol 5648-A25 FMID

2006-11-17 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello, Can anyone help me out with the FMID for IBM Cobol 5648-A25. I can't tie in the product number with the FMID. We have billing issues. Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around

Re: Shane's antipodes

2006-11-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:48:13 -0700, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, language has been degrading forever. I would contend that language has been *evolving* forever. New features appear from time to time. Those that are useful are retained. Old features that lose their

Re: IBM Cobol 5648-A25 FMID

2006-11-17 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Found 13 items. Search results COMPID Component name Product name FMID/CLC Program Rel VRM 5648A2500 COMPILER BASE COBOL FOR OS/390 VM V210 H249100 5648A25 100 210 5648A2500 COMPILER NLS ENGLISH COBOL FOR OS/390 VM V210 J249101 5648A25 101 210 5648A2500 COMPILER NLS JAPAN COBOL FOR

Re: IBM Cobol 5648-A25 FMID

2006-11-17 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Hello, Can anyone help me out with the FMID for IBM Cobol 5648-A25. I can't tie in the product number with the FMID. We have billing issues. If you have IBMLink (Servicelink) access, sign in

Re: Pedantry (was RE: Shane's antipodes)

2006-11-17 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman --snip-- I'm sure you meant to write Native American instead of American Indian, right? :-) ---unsnip--- The Native

Re: Pedantry (was RE: Shane's antipodes)

2006-11-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Pedantry (was RE: Shane's antipodes) snip And the African Americans I know call themselves

Re: Pedantry (was RE: Shane's antipodes)

2006-11-17 Thread Bruce Black
I'm sure you meant to write Native American instead of American Indian, right? Native American may be PC, but a few years ago on vacation in Arizona, we took a tour with a company owned and run by Indians, and our guide clearly told us that they prefer to be called Indians. Of course, we had

Re: SMF UPDATE RECORD

2006-11-17 Thread Jimmy Wagner
I do have some SAS code that will identify when a VSAM file was openned for output. It uses SMF data as input. I will supply the code off list, so please make your request off list. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
When *I* was going to school there were only a square wheel department! And, you probably had to walk 40 miles, in freezing rain, and it was uphill in both directions! When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
you forgot barefoot. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe? When *I* was going to school there were

Re: Pedantry (was RE: Shane's antipodes)

2006-11-17 Thread Jon Brock
They are welcome to be as upset as they like, but considering that the entire world refers to us as Americans -- and has for a couple hundred years -- I don't see why it is somehow our failing. It is a legitimate shortening of the name United States of America, just as Mexico is a a legitimate

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe? you forgot barefoot. FEET? You had FEET?!? --

Re: Pedantry (was RE: Shane's antipodes)

2006-11-17 Thread Howard Brazee
On 17 Nov 2006 10:22:25 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: alert type=pedant And I have been old that the non-U.S. residents / citizens get a bit upset that we claim the entire continent for ourselves. After all, Canadians are AMERICANS, as are Mexicans, Peruvians, Brazilians, and all

Re: IBM Cobol 5648-A25 FMID

2006-11-17 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks all for you quick response. --- Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Hello, Can anyone help me out with the FMID for IBM Cobol 5648-A25. I can't tie in the product number with

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
We didn't have punched cards, we had chiseled rocks. A sort took 40 people all day... Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com This

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel A. McLaughlin Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe? Would my 17 year old child, who works on mainframes be a

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread James Robinson
Sure, particularly if he is producing ore -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe? -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe? you forgot barefoot. FEET? You

Re: IBMLink

2006-11-17 Thread Jon Brock
Thanks for forwarding this note, John. Perhaps I can go back to using a shorter URL now. I had given up on the ones I had bookmarked (www.ibmlink.ibm.com included). Jon snip The IBMLink team asked me to post this on their behalf: Through other IBM colleagues, the IBMLink team had seen some

IDCAMS lies.

2006-11-17 Thread McKown, John
We created an Extended Format VSAM file. The CI size is 8192 (0x2000). A LISTCAT of the dataset says that the PHYREC-SIZE is 8192 as well. WRONG! The physical record size is 8224 (0x2020), due to the 32 (0x20) byte overhead that is not part of the logical CI. I know because I physically printed

Friday question: in search of Rexx elegance?

2006-11-17 Thread Tim Hare
I'm trying to construct some modify commands in AF/Operator, unfortunately the product for which the commands are being issued requires single quotes around some operands... Here's what I did: VARCMD1 = F $SCHED,VAR(DB2TNAME,||''||STRIP(DSN)||'') VARCMD2 = F

Re: 1401 and MUSIC

2006-11-17 Thread Howard Rifkind
Gee, I remember way way back when ... in my yuth we had a 1401 and some one places a small portable radio next to the CPU and there was a distict music pattern you could hear on the radio. Some has written some autocoder progarm which played the same music over and over again...The first music on

Re: IDCAMS lies.

2006-11-17 Thread John Kington
We created an Extended Format VSAM file. The CI size is 8192 (0x2000). A LISTCAT of the dataset says that the PHYREC-SIZE is 8192 as well. WRONG! The physical record size is 8224 (0x2020), due to the 32 (0x20) byte overhead that is not part of the logical CI. I know because I physically printed

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Mark Hammond
What?!?! You had rocks? We had to wait for the creation of the world (my kids tell me I am older than dirt.) Mark Hammond -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel A. McLaughlin Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:35 PM To:

Reference to TCPIP task functions?

2006-11-17 Thread Steven Conway
Happy Friday! I think I remember, years ago, seeing a list of TCPIP tasks and what their functions were. I'm talking about the tasks you see listed in response to D OMVS,A=ALL: SYSTCPIP TCPIP0041 196623 LATCHWAITPID= 0 CMD=EZBTCPIP SYSTCPIP TCPIP0041 196624

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Bruce A. McKnight
At least someone created yours for you... we had to make our own creation. Sure, it wasn't as nice as the rich kid's creation but we made do.--- On Fri 11/17, Mark Hammond lt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; wrote: From: Mark Hammond [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 17 Nov 2006

strange request: EBNF desc of JCL?

2006-11-17 Thread McKown, John
Does anybody have or know of an EBNF description of JCL that I could feed into Flex or Bison? I'm not really too sure that JCL can be described with EBNF. But I'm not very familiar with EBNF. Compiler theory was long ago! And I got a C-. I'm kind of curious to see if it would be possible to use

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
my kids tell me I am older than dirt I'm older than the guy who made dirt! When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Re: strange request: EBNF desc of JCL?

2006-11-17 Thread Tim Hare
1. Do you mean ABNF? 2. How about an XSLT to take JCL and transform it into XML; you can then go from XML to just about anything else. 3. Maye there should be an XML schema / DTD for JCL which _also_ includes scheduling information; I for one would love to see scheduler info in a standard

Re: strange request: EBNF desc of JCL?

2006-11-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Hare Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: strange request: EBNF desc of JCL? 1. Do you mean ABNF? I had never heard of this. I found some

Re: strange request: EBNF desc of JCL?

2006-11-17 Thread Lindy Mayfield
If you find such an EBNF or create one of your own, please post it. I'm way curious how you'd define the continuation and wrapping and those magic column numbers, 72 on the right and I forget how many on the left you can skip (after the first column after // ). I've tried to do some small

Re: strange request: EBNF desc of JCL?

2006-11-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- Does anybody have or know of an EBNF description of JCL that I could feed into Flex or Bison? I'm not really too sure that JCL can be described with EBNF. But I'm not very familiar with EBNF. Compiler theory was long ago! And I got

Re: Reference to TCPIP task functions?

2006-11-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:02:05 -0500, Steven Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... So far, I've googled various task names, web-wide and group ibm-main. I searched these books: Communications Server IP System Administrator's Commands, IP Configuration Guide, IP Configuration Reference, IP Diagnosis

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Steve Arnett
What ever happened to the Virtual Universe Operating System that was announced back in the late 70s? Or did IBM keep that one for themselves? Ted MacNEIL wrote: my kids tell me I am older than dirt I'm older than the guy who made dirt!

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Arnett Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe? What ever happened to the Virtual Universe Operating System that

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe? -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: IDCAMS lies.

2006-11-17 Thread Bruce Black
We created an Extended Format VSAM file. The CI size is 8192 (0x2000). A LISTCAT of the dataset says that the PHYREC-SIZE is 8192 as well. WRONG! The physical record size is 8224 (0x2020), due to the 32 (0x20) byte overhead that is not part of the logical CI. I know because I physically printed

Re: 1401 and MUSIC

2006-11-17 Thread Bruce Black
Gee, I remember way way back when ... in my yuth we had a 1401 and some one places a small portable radio next to the CPU and there was a distict music pattern you could hear on the radio. Back about 1966, Carnegie-Mellon Univ had an RCA RACE mass storage unit, with a computer acting as a

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Thomas Berg
Both!? We had only *one* direction - down! == Pommier, Rex R. == wrote2006-11-17 20:20: you forgot barefoot. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:20 PM To:

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I was just waiting for good Ole OS/VR or OS/VU to get mentioned. Still looking for a copy of those old announcements. I may have a soft-copy of VU. I have an external hard-drive (USB) that may have a copy on it. If I find it, I'll post a place to copy it from on the INTERNET. If I don't, I

Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Gregory, Gary G
I am the youngest in our development group at CA. My first system was a System 370/115 that our local Jr. College acquired in 1976. My Dad taught there and when he had night classes I would sneak into the Data Processing classes and before I knew it I had a part-time job as an operator (at the

VS: strange request: EBNF desc of JCL?

2006-11-17 Thread Lindy Mayfield
From what I understood from what I read, EBNF just added some things to handle recursive things. For JCL BNF should be fine, _IF_ BNF could do it, but nothing I could see in the descriptions of BNF or EBNF gave you the ability to dictate dependencies on particular columns. This VERB has to

Re: DFSORT questions

2006-11-17 Thread Randy Hudson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. ICEGENER and 237 abend. I'm looking for some way to read a dataset from tape with corrupted EOF labels - incorrect number of blocks. Maybe some parameter, like SPANINC? //SORTIN DD UNIT=TAPE,LABEL=(2,BLP) [...]

Console Password

2006-11-17 Thread Cheryl Smith
We are running OS/390 2.10 - we stabilized a long time ago. We have never required a console logon; but are now considering it. Any opinions or experiences on the merits? Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /