Track size and maximum single volume data set size (was: Deleted PDS)

2007-07-12 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Many types of data sets are limited to 65 535 total tracks allocated on any one volume, and if a greater number of tracks is required, this attempt to create a data set will fail. One could enlarge those data set if a new unit type with larger tracks would be defined. I admit I'm too busy

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread R.S.
Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote: Many types of data sets are limited to 65 535 total tracks allocated on any one volume, and if a greater number of tracks is required, this attempt to create a data set will fail. One could enlarge those data set if a new unit type with larger tracks would be

Moving reports from UNIX to Control-M

2007-07-12 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Does anyone have any experience on how to move reports from UNIX to Control-M with the ASA control characters? I did some googling as best I could and found some utilities that went the other way round, from mainframe to UNIX, but nothing from UNIX to ASA... Any hints about what to do or

Re: Moving reports from UNIX to Control-D

2007-07-12 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Sorry, that was Control-D not Control-M, my bad. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: 12. heinäkuuta 2007 10:24 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Moving reports from UNIX to Control-M Does anyone have any

Re: 3390 Model 27

2007-07-12 Thread R.S.
Bruce Black wrote: [...] If you have to recover one or a few datasets from a backup, restore from a -27 can take longer than from a -3. Can be an issue when some over-excited application manager is watching over your shoulder. I dare to disagree. Restore from backup does not depend on volume

Re: OA17011

2007-07-12 Thread Mike Wood
A newer APAR has reversed the code in OA17011 See APAR OA20293 for details. It should now work like before ! Mike WoodRMM Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: A mod 27 is small was Re: 3390 Model 27

2007-07-12 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 14:45 -0500, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- On Behalf Of Clark Morris Maybe IBM needs to bite the bullet and start a migration to FBA. I'll lay you dollars to donuts that it does NOT happen in z/OS ... In any case, too many things would need

Re: pre-validating RACF userids and passwords in application.

2007-07-12 Thread Brian Crow
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth E Tomiak Sent: 12 July 2007 00:07 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: pre-validating RACF userids and passwords in application. What I may do is to have a button like Validate host /

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size (was: Deleted PDS)

2007-07-12 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/12/2007 1:36:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do we still keep the ~55k track size and increase only the number of cylinders? With modern DASD subsystems it shouldn't matter, right? What are the track size limits in z/OS? I guess it's 64k,

SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parameter via JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread CAPRON Romain
Hello, I'm currently working on implenting SMS and I'm wondering if it's possible to override the dynamic volume count via a JCL parameter. I saw that UNIT=(unitname,x) where x is the number of volume for the allocation but it doesn't override the dynamic volume count... I don't want to modify

Client Server sample code

2007-07-12 Thread Shedlock, George
I have a need to write an application that is client/server based. It will be hosted on the z/OS system. What I have in mind is a system that would function something akin to Omegamon. By this I mean that the server component would be a started task that would communicate with numerous slave

Re: SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parameter via JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread Philippe Leite
You can override Dynamic Volume count with VOL=(,,,XX), where XX is limited to 59. Regards, Philippe Leite z/OS Systems Programmer Portugal On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:03:57 +0200, CAPRON Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm currently working on implenting SMS and I'm wondering if it's

Re: 3390 Model 27

2007-07-12 Thread Darth Keller
Bruce Black wrote: If you have to recover one or a few datasets from a backup, restore from a -27 can take longer than from a -3. Can be an issue when some over-excited application manager is watching over your shoulder. I dare to disagree. Restore from backup does not depend on volume

PHP on z/OS

2007-07-12 Thread William Richter
FYI. IBM Brings Freebie PHP to the Mainframe http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=2EAAEC9B-E72F-428C-9C5E- 00DBB3C833CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: CSVQUERY OUTVALID question

2007-07-12 Thread Peter Relson
What exactly would you like to see in the book? I never mind changing to clarify, if there is something specific. OUTVALID identifies things that both were requested and that were returned/retrieved. RC 0: CSVQUERY retrieved all the requested information. RC 4: CSVQUERY located the specified

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
I was taught not to memorize the information because it changes. Instead, learn where to look. Wow! I have rarely found people (persons) with that viewpoint. I could find an answer faster by looking it up, than trying to recall it. I have traditionally agreed with this viewpoint as well. There

RE : SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parameter via JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread CAPRON Romain
To allow a kind of dataset that doesn't support multi-volume allocation... Romain -Message d'origine- De : IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Envoyé : jeudi 12 juillet 2007 14:37 À : IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Objet : Re: SMS

Re: Deleted PDS

2007-07-12 Thread Sarel Swanepoel
NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf Hi Many thanks to everyone that contributed to the successful restore of the PDS, especially to Jon Veilleux. This is the reply from our Storage

Re: Moving reports from UNIX to Control-D

2007-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Moving reports from UNIX to Control-M Does anyone have any experience on how to move reports from

Re: Moving reports from UNIX to Control-D

2007-07-12 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Thanks, John. I do believe that should do it! Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: 12. heinäkuuta 2007 16:03 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Moving reports from UNIX to Control-D If you're UNIX

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:22:49 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could find an answer faster by looking it up, than trying to recall it. Sounds like you may need a high speed memory upgrade. ;-) -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America /

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 6:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test I was taught not to memorize the information because it changes. Instead, learn

Re: Legacy matters

2007-07-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Legacy matters Great article, and nice picture, too. rant I happen to disagree with the author's use

Re: 3390 Model 27

2007-07-12 Thread R.S.
Darth Keller wrote: Bruce Black wrote: If you have to recover one or a few datasets from a backup, restore from a -27 can take longer than from a -3. Can be an issue when some over-excited application manager is watching over your shoulder. I dare to disagree. Restore from backup does not

Re: RE : SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parameter via JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
That's why you have multiple Dataclasses defined so that your ACS routine can direct those datasets to an appropriate Data Class. From: CAPRON Romain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 7/12/2007 8:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: RE : SMS : Override

Re: RE : SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parameter via JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:53:51 +0200, CAPRON Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To allow a kind of dataset that doesn't support multi-volume allocation... If you are referring to something like message IGD17293I when allocating a PDS(E)? If so, then coding something like UNIT=(SYSALLDA,1) should

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I could find an answer faster by looking it up, than trying to recall it. Sounds like you may need a high speed memory upgrade. ;-) More like things change so much, that what you have memorised is no longer appropriate. I remember when XA first came out a lot of stuff dealing with 'Hot-IO'

Re: Client Server sample code

2007-07-12 Thread Rob Scott
George, Your first step should be to read the Synchronous Cross Memory Communication chapter of the MVS Extended Addressability manual. The best way to achieve what you are after is by using one or more space-switch PC routines. I think there are some good Share presentations around about how

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/12/2007 8:43:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember when XA first came out a lot of stuff dealing with 'Hot-IO' went to automatic recovery. A hot-shot consultant had memorised the appropriate manuals under 370. He caused three

RE : RE : SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parameter via JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread CAPRON Romain
It seems that it doesn't work... I tought that every JCL parameter could override Data Class definition ? I'm currently running zOS 1.4 Regards, Romain -Message d'origine- De : IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Mark Zelden Envoyé : jeudi 12 juillet

Re: ATL and TLMS

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Justice
well, I can tell you what we did in 1997 when we had this very same problem with TLMS using a combination of 3494, 3495 and VTS. We got rid of TLMS and installed RMM. Problem solved. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: RE : SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parametervia JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
I think we have a missunderstanding here with the technical side of the volumecount parameter: this is not the way to limit the volumecount to 1. Default a JFCB area for 5 volumes is reserved if you don't specify a volume count. If this is not enough, you specify a higher volume count and more

ATL and TLMS

2007-07-12 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
We put an ATL in last year. Not being familiar with all the goodies that TLMS has we rolled out some REXX code to produce ejects based on DSNs. Seemed to work until this past weekend we ran out of scratches in the ATL and all we had appeared to be offsite at the vault. This morning I

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Guess I fold it into the 'continual refinement' category. Probably maybe 90% of each version is unchanged for compatibility. I may have overstated my case, a bit. I don't have to look everything up! - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: RE : RE : SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parameter via JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
JCL is merged with DATACLAS, but also overrides it. Not always. You can always make the ACS routine rule! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: RE : SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parametervia JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Sorry, I was too fast, this is true for tape, not for disk. Kees. Default a JFCB area for 5 volumes is reserved if you don't specify a volume count. If this is not enough, you specify a higher volume count and more space for volume information is supplied in chunks of 15. So if you specify

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2007 05:50:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have traditionally agreed with this viewpoint as well. There is simply too much information to be able to memorize it all accurately. The ability to research, find information, draw conclusions, etc is much more important in the long run

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: Guess I fold it into the 'continual refinement' category. Probably maybe 90% of each version is unchanged for compatibility. I may have overstated my case, a bit. I don't have to look everything up! Ted, Now I agree with you! You often respond to the group, answer

Re: SPAM: Re: pre-validating RACF userids and passwords in application.

2007-07-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- In terms of validation, I was more thinking along the lines of I know that RACF ids can be a maximum of 8 characters, and are composed of the characters A-Z,@#$,0-9. So I'll check that the id doesn't contain anything else. I don't consider this a

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- Along that line, while being trained in the Navy for my speciality I was taught not to memorize the information because it changes. Instead, learn where to look. Those who try to memorize become wrong one day because something changed and they

Re: RE : SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parameter via JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread Greg Shirey
The Help panels say it can be overridden, but experimentation seems to prove otherwise, unless I've missed something. My job: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //DDI DD

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- I too have very messy desk and tend to use the flat surface virtual stacking filing system. ---unsnip I KNEW there was a name for that! As Bob Richards and Rich Vipond can attest, I also used that

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip One could enlarge those data set if a new unit type with larger tracks would be defined. I admit I'm too busy (lazy) right now to RTFM but would appreciate any toughts on this (just curious). Why do we still keep the ~55k track size and increase

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Richards.Bob
And all that time I thought it was a cubicle wall! grin Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Roger Mihay
The name that was used at a former employer was Piling System. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

Re: CSVQUERY OUTVALID question

2007-07-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip--- What exactly would you like to see in the book? I never mind changing to clarify, if there is something specific. OUTVALID identifies things that both were requested and that were returned/retrieved. RC 0: CSVQUERY retrieved all the requested

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test snip- I too have very messy

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread R.S.
Rick Fochtman wrote: --snip One could enlarge those data set if a new unit type with larger tracks would be defined. I admit I'm too busy (lazy) right now to RTFM but would appreciate any toughts on this (just curious). Why do we still keep the ~55k

Re: ATL and TLMS

2007-07-12 Thread Dee Shrier
Daniel, Could you be a little bit more specific about your ATL environment? Also, are you looking for any solution to your problem or just a free one? I have a lot of experience with just the type of situation you are describing. If you'd feel more comfortable I can communicate with you

How to Move a File Allocated to XCFAS

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Pelletier
Hi All. In preparation of our upgrade I need to free up space. I could free a whole pack if I could move this: Data set 'SYS1.PROD.WLM.CDS01' is in use by the following 1 user(s) and/or job(s): -- XCFAS Can

Re: How to Move a File Allocated to XCFAS

2007-07-12 Thread R.S.
Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. In preparation of our upgrade I need to free up space. I could free a whole pack if I could move this: Data set 'SYS1.PROD.WLM.CDS01' is in use by the following 1 user(s) and/or job(s):

SIGNOFF IBM-MAIN

2007-07-12 Thread Deborah Saunby
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Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip- I am also a big fan of the skills learned by people who learned to use slide rules. Too bad there's no way people will be willing to learn this anymore: 1. Proportion is all of the math that most people will use after school. 2.

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
Made of very thin 8 1/2 by 11 tiles!!! :-D Richards.Bob wrote: And all that time I thought it was a cubicle wall! grin Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:19 AM To:

IBM System z Remote Development Program

2007-07-12 Thread Dave Salt
IBM has just announced they're reducing the cost for renting mainframe time. Here's a quote from their newsletter: On August 1, 2007, IBM will offer all PartnerWorld members who qualify for mainframe server benefits the ability to participate in the enhanced Remote Development Program at a

Re: RE : RE : SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parameter via JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:00:33 +0200, CAPRON Romain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that it doesn't work... I tought that every JCL parameter could override Data Class definition ? I'm currently running zOS 1.4 Can you be more specific about what exactly your problem is? Error messages,

Re: RE : SMS : Override Dynamic Volume Count DataClass parameter via JCL parameter

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:10:41 -0500, Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Help panels say it can be overridden, but experimentation seems to prove otherwise, unless I've missed something. snip Well, the subject line does say dynamic volume count but we have been talking about both. There is

Re: Client Server sample code

2007-07-12 Thread Jim Liebert
Hi George, If you already own MQ I'd be inclined to suggest a MQ request-reply type implementation. And make your requests / replies XML mapped ... then your clients could run anywhere. Unless there is some overriding reason to limit them to the mainframe. IBM provides sample request /

Re: A mod 27 is small was Re: 3390 Model 27

2007-07-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 11 Jul 2007 12:46:12 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: A mod 27 is small was Re: 3390

Re: ATL and TLMS

2007-07-12 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Dee et al, I'm digging through the manuals and trying to get a grip on the whole scratch-eject-sync process. CA told me that eject and synch can be in any sequence. They also mentioned CTE3495 and TLREPT21 as part of the process. I guess I'm really baffled by the proper methods. The tape

Re: How to Move a File Allocated to XCFAS

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:55:37 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. In preparation of our upgrade I need to free up space. I could free a whole pack if I could move this: Data set 'SYS1.PROD.WLM.CDS01' is in use by the following 1 user(s) and/or job(s):

Re: CSVQUERY OUTVALID question

2007-07-12 Thread Paul Schuster
Peter, yes, something as you suggested. My reading of the manual was not clear to me how the OUTVALID field is to be used, so clarifying it to say that 'rc=0 means all fields are valid, and rc=4 means that you must interrogate the OUTVALID field to see which returned fields are valid' would be

Couple DSN War Story (was Re: How to Move a File Allocated to XCFAS)

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:33:30 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if it was a separate sysplex with shared DASD and all LPARs in the owning sysplex were down, you can't just move a couple data set. The VOLSER is saved in the sysplex (XCF) couple data set. Ask me how I know. :-)

Re: IBM System z Remote Development Program

2007-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Salt Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM System z Remote Development Program IBM has just announced they're reducing the cost for renting

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2007 08:57:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: One guy complained to his Father about not being able to use a calculator and Daddy called me and proceeded to try his hardest to melt the phone wires. When I finally got his attention, I suggested he have the kid make change

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Ken Porowski
Out of curiosity, what is the PHYSICAL track size of modern disk (EMC, IBM, etc.). Is there an industry standard or is everyone different? I would think that there is still some validity to matching I/O requests to the PHYSICAL geometry even with emulation, RAID, striping, cache, etc. Head

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman [ snip ] Part of my now copious free time is taken up with tutoring high school math and physics students. My first step is to take away all calculators. First they do the math with pencil and

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size Out of curiosity, what is the PHYSICAL

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread J R
The tracks towards the center have fewer sectors than the tracks towards the rim. Really? From: McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size Date: Thu, 12

What happened to Phil Payne's page?

2007-07-12 Thread Steve Comstock
Phil Payne wrote: Forget PSI. Forget Fundamental. And forget PWD. It's about zSeries End of Life, and how to control the collapse. http://www.isham-research.co.uk/ibm_vs_psi.html The above was back in mid-April of this year. I tried to link to it today and it's 404 not found. What's up?

Re: What happened to Phil Payne's page?

2007-07-12 Thread Richards.Bob
I tried just his homepage and got: Great Success ! Apache is working on your cPanel(r) and WHM(tm) Server If you can see this page, then the people who manage this server have installed cPanel and WebHost Manager (WHM) which use the Apache Web server software and the Apache Interface to OpenSSL

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J R Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size The tracks towards the center have fewer sectors

Re: What happened to Phil Payne's page?

2007-07-12 Thread Jim Harrison
Looks like he's having server problems - If you take that HTML page off the URL http://www.isham-research.co.uk you get the default Apache splash screen. Definitely not what should be showing. - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups:

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test SNIP What appears to be missing in public edjamacation these days is teaching

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2007 10:07:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I once had a Pickett N-20 (or N-28?), a Cadillac among slide rules. All I have left now is an E6B. I have a Post Versalog in front of me right now (at my computer at work) - in case the computer goes down.But it's very hard

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2007 10:07:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: What appears to be missing in public edjamacation these days is teaching *how* to think, and *how* to learn. Most all education throughout history has had this same lack. Rote used to be even a bigger part of education.

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Michael Stack
At 11:54 AM 7/12/2007 -0600, you wrote: On 12 Jul 2007 10:07:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: What appears to be missing in public edjamacation these days is teaching *how* to think, and *how* to learn. Most all education throughout history has had this same lack. Rote used to

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2007 11:16:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: As an appropriate example, learning how to program a computer involves both rote memorization and synthetic thinking. Vocabulary and grammar can be learned separately, of course, but how much better it is to USE the components

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread J R
Well, I was always aware of the trade-offs, i.e. bit density at the center v. bit density at the outside, but I wasn't aware that anything was ever done about it with variable data rates, etc. From: McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To:

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:34:17 -0400, J R wrote: Well, I was always aware of the trade-offs, i.e. bit density at the center v. bit density at the outside, but I wasn't aware that anything was ever done about it with variable data rates, etc. CD players, like the original Macintosh 390 K floppy

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:34:17 -0400, J R

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:47:47 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote: Out of curiosity, what is the PHYSICAL track size of modern disk (EMC, IBM, etc.). Is there an industry standard or is everyone different? There is not an industry standard for track size. The standard is for sector size, though you may

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:34:17 -0400, J R wrote: Well, I was always aware of the trade-offs, i.e. bit density at the center v. bit density at the outside, but I wasn't aware that anything was ever done about it with variable data rates, etc. It's not such a big deal with SLED, where the recording

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size snip Since most RAID arrays get their data

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Dana Mitchell
This raises another question. Now that all modern DASD is some flavor of 3380 or 3390 geometry emulated via RAID, why is it neccessary to emulate the gaps between blocks when writing blocks to a track? Since the microcode is emulating track size and cylinders etc, why not allow full utilization

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread J R
CD players, like the original Macintosh 390 K floppy disks, vary the angular velocity inversely with cylinder radius in order to have both uniform linear density and uniform data transfer rate. Right. But floppies and CDs don't revolve at 3000rpm (or 7200rpm, whatever) like hard drives, so

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size This raises another question. Now that all

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:45:49 +0200, R.S. wrote: Rick Fochtman wrote: You're right, but the downside is this: there are literally millions of lines of JCL still in regular use that allocate space in terms of tracks and cylinders. To change the length of a track would invoke nightmares of

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Eric Bielefeld
When I worked at PH, we used to have all of our Cadam drawing files on the mainframe. Our Cadam software was so old that we had to put the drawing files on 3380 volumes, as they didn't work on 3390s. These were real 3390 sled volumes formated as 3380s. They didn't want to buy an upgrade to

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 12, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Rick Fochtman wrote: -unsnip--- You're right, but the downside is this: there are literally millions of lines of JCL still in regular use that allocate space in terms of tracks and cylinders. To change the length of a

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:42:15 -0400, J R wrote: CD players, like the original Macintosh 390 K floppy disks, vary the angular velocity inversely with cylinder radius in order to have both uniform linear density and uniform data transfer rate. Right. But floppies and CDs don't revolve at 3000rpm

Re: What happened to Phil Payne's page?

2007-07-12 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 12 Jul 2007 10:38:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Comstock) wrote: Phil Payne wrote: Forget PSI. Forget Fundamental. And forget PWD. It's about zSeries End of Life, and how to control the collapse. http://www.isham-research.co.uk/ibm_vs_psi.html The above was back in mid-April of

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size snip I thought one of the reasons why IBM came

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Is that the one where they want to replace expensive computer pilots with cheaper human ones after teaching them the lost arts of writing numbers and arithmetic? -Original Message- From: Howard Brazee [mailto:snip] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:

Cataloging a Multi-Volume Tape Dataset

2007-07-12 Thread Art Brown
Help!! It's been such a long time since working on the mainframe. We are currently a Client/Server installation. It seems as though I've forgotten how to catalog a dataset on multiple volume. I'm getting a syntax error on the control statement, but can not, for the life of me, fiqure out

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Patrick . Falcone
Ah err, well, we have an old Adabas application with 3380 emulation on 2105. This will be moot after 11/30/07. It's been a shame they could not resolve to get the application off our platform sooner. This was one of those app's we really wanted to go as it wasted an array due to the emulation

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2007 12:59:04 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I thought one of the reasons why IBM came up with AVGREC and the other new SMS allocation parameters was to get rid of the idea of tracks and cylinders concept. I went on the band wagon years ago to change over. I was

Re: Share z/OS Mastery Test

2007-07-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2007 13:10:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Is that the one where they want to replace expensive computer pilots with cheaper human ones after teaching them the lost arts of writing numbers and arithmetic? -Original Message- From: Howard Brazee [mailto:snip] Sent:

Re: Cataloging a Multi-Volume Tape Dataset

2007-07-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Brown Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Cataloging a Multi-Volume Tape Dataset Help!! It's been such a long time since working on the

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