Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ? to Steve Samson - errata corrige

2007-09-24 Thread Max Scarpa
If it's 'suspended' by skip clock how is managed during this period ? Is it not serviced at all ? Does it become discretionary ? What else ? Thanks Max Scarpa >I suspected that the work was not set aside from what I understood (and from >the calculation I imagine WLM does) as this could complic

Re: Using WLM to kill a job

2007-09-24 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"bwstorts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > We would like to basically quiesce or severely limit a job or tso id > once it has used a certain amount of cpu. anyone know how to do this? > Resource groups don't work, since everyone in the resource group gets > capped

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ?

2007-09-24 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards.Bob > > ..., I try to draw the line on soft-capping a production > environment for purely cost reasons. YMMV. I prefer to go > after other areas that are wasting more money than the > mainframe (distributed

LPAR for the PC?

2007-09-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=778 -- Binyamin Dissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely b

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ?

2007-09-24 Thread Richards.Bob
Something like that. Their portion of the software budget is over double what the mainframe software portion currently demands. One of the reasons I promoted z/Linux so heavily here was because of the license per processor paradigm. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe D

IEFSSREQ / external writer question

2007-09-24 Thread Hare, Tim
I have some code we wrote long ago that is an external writer type interface. It reads sysout from JES2 spool, and writes it to a dataset (the particulars don't really matter for my question). We're now being asked to write something which can do RECEIVE of e-mail sent in through SMTP for a par

Re: Using WLM to kill a job

2007-09-24 Thread Staller, Allan
Add another service class period with very low (or non-performing goals) to the affected service class. When the user(s) reach the Service Unit Limit and drop into the "last" period. Very little or no service will be consumed. You will probably have to experiment to find the correct Service Unit L

DB2 DDF and OMVS

2007-09-24 Thread Kelman, Tom
We are seeing an increase in DB2 DDF processing. At the same time we are seeing an increase in CPU utilization for the OMVS workload. Are they related? Does DB2 DDF processing utilized Unix Systems Services and OMVS? We are at DB2 v7. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632

Re: Changes in TSO SYSEXEC concat

2007-09-24 Thread Jack Hofbauer
Look if your PDS takes a extend? If yes, make a PDS free, a PDS compress or reoorg, PDS alloc, and restart your command ago -Message d'origine- De : IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de R.S. Envoyé : dimanche 23 septembre 2007 09:36 À : IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.ED

Re: Using WLM to kill a job

2007-09-24 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
> > "bwstorts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > > We would like to basically quiesce or severely limit a job or tso id > > once it has used a certain amount of cpu. anyone know how to do this? > > Resource groups don't work, since everyone in the resource group

Tivoli messages ???

2007-09-24 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Hi all, I thought I knew where to find these messages, but sadly I lost it... I am getting stuck on these AWS??? Messages pushed out by tivoli/maestro ? Any idea where I can get a IBM-type message guide for these ? I have searched IBM / GOOGLE... only a few popping up, and not the ones I need

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ? to Steve Samson - errata corrige

2007-09-24 Thread Gerhard Adam
>If it's 'suspended' by skip clock how is managed during this period ? Is it >not serviced at all ? Does it become discretionary ? What else ? It is NOT managed, nor is it eligible to receive help regardless of what its importance level or performance index are. Keep in mind that WLM will choose

Re: Changes in TSO SYSEXEC concat

2007-09-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:00:18 -0500, Walt Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> FYI... taking additional extents with SYSEXEC would NOT cause this problem. > >Even with the default of EXECUTIL EXECDD(NOCLOSE) in effect? Yes. Even though that is the default, I did purposely set it and tested to

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ? to Steve Samson - errata corrige

2007-09-24 Thread Martin Packer
Sorry to be a pedant - and just to make a VERY minor splash on (re)entry to the pool that is IBM-MAIN :-) I feel the phrasing "to help bring the performance index into line with the goals" is a little awkward, having dimensional incompatibility built in. Something like "to help bring the

Re: Using WLM to kill a job

2007-09-24 Thread Staller, Allan
>>SNIP> > > "bwstorts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > > We would like to basically quiesce or severely limit a job or tso id > > once it has used a certain amount of cpu. anyone know how to do this? > > Resource groups don't work, since everyone in the resourc

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ?

2007-09-24 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:06:58 -0400, Richards.Bob wrote: >Dave, > >Feel free to give me a call. > >Bob Richards Bob, Thanks for your kind offer. I've contacted our IBM rep and I'm trying to get more information on our sub-capacity agreement before I head off on a mis- information tangent. I'll

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ?

2007-09-24 Thread Richards.Bob
Dave, You're welcome! And I agree that your IBM rep should know. :-) As it relates to the mainframe, there are two sub-capacity agreements. One is for Variable WLC and the other is the sub-capacity agreement for IPLA products. Both need to be in force if you have IPLA products. Otherwise, for jus

Re: TASID 5.14 available for download from ISPF website

2007-09-24 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards.Bob > > Saw this posted on ISPF-L by John Kalinich and thought I > would cross-post it here just in case some of you are not > subscribed to ISPF-L. > > http://www.ibm.com/software/awdtools/ispf/support/ A

Re: Tivoli messages ???

2007-09-24 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Apologies, I found it ... http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/TWS/SH19-4557-00/en_US/HTML/msgm st02.htm#ToC Regards Herbie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Sent: 24 September 2007 15:54 To: IBM-MAIN@BAM

Re: TASID 5.14 available for download from ISPF website

2007-09-24 Thread Richards.Bob
Which type did you download? Panels imbedded or separate? I have them separate and am at z/OS 1.7 and it displays just fine. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 12:25 PM

Re: TASID 5.14 available for download from ISPF website

2007-09-24 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards.Bob > > Which type did you download? Panels imbedded or separate? Separate. > I have them separate and am at z/OS 1.7 and it displays just fine. Fascinating (said Spock). The previous level we had (5.11) s

Re: TASID 5.14 available for download from ISPF website

2007-09-24 Thread Rob Scott
I am not sure how TASID caters for the $PIT control block - but one method would be to process the IPCS modules in SHASMIG. If SHASMIG is not in the linklist or STEPLIB, then TASID would not be able to locate/process the $PITs. Just a guess. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street New

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ?

2007-09-24 Thread Kelman, Tom
> > Dave, > > You're welcome! And I agree that your IBM rep should know. :-) > > As it relates to the mainframe, there are two sub-capacity agreements. > One is for Variable WLC and the other is the sub-capacity agreement for > IPLA products. Both need to be in force if you have IPLA products. >

Re: Using WLM to kill a job

2007-09-24 Thread Gerhard Adam
>>> Resource groups don't work, since everyone in the resource group gets >>> capped by the one person hogging up the cpu. Using service class >>> periods and bumping down to discretionary doesn't work, since even at >>> discretionary you can chew up a lot of cpu (we have lots of cpu in the >>> mor

Re: TASID 5.14 available for download from ISPF website

2007-09-24 Thread Richards.Bob
We have it in the Linklist here. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TASID 5.14 available for download from ISPF website I am

Re: TASID 5.14 available for download from ISPF website

2007-09-24 Thread Robert Justice
We're getting the unsupported level message with TASID option 4 (5.14) TASID could not find the PIT control block. I do find it amusing that the INITHDR eyecatcher in the tasid 5.12 module (which works just fine with option 4 on the same system that 5.14 dies on) has this: INITHDR SP 5.1.0SP 5

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ?

2007-09-24 Thread Richards.Bob
You still pursued getting the IPLA sub-cap agreement signed, didn't you? While you won't get any money back, it proves to IBM that you are now *over entitled*. It took me three years to grow into the entitlement I already owned when I got that sub-cap agreement signed. Plus, if you get any *new*

Re: TASID 5.14 available for download from ISPF website

2007-09-24 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott > > I am not sure how TASID caters for the $PIT control block - > but one method would be to process the IPCS modules in SHASMIG. > > If SHASMIG is not in the linklist or STEPLIB, then TASID > would not be

Re: TASID 5.14 available for download from ISPF website

2007-09-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:24:54 -0500, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Saw this posted on ISPF-L by John Kalinich and thought I >> would cross-post it here just in case some of you are not >> subscribed to ISPF-L. >> >> http://www.ibm.com/software/awdtools/ispf/support/ > >Any ideas why opt

Re: TASID 5.14 available for download from ISPF website

2007-09-24 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > > > > I reported the INIT display getting an abend on z/OS 1.8 with TASID > 5.13. IBM sent me a fix (5.14) via email and it tested out > okay. Some > weeks later 5.14 was posted on the ISPF web s

alphaWorks : Console Command Generator for z/OS : Overview

2007-09-24 Thread McKown, John
OK, likely not of much interest. But who knows? Console Command Generator for z/OS is an easy-to-use API that enables C/C++ and Java(tm) programs to issue z/OS Console commands and retrieve the responses. The module containing the API can be dynamically loaded by the program needing it. This is

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ?

2007-09-24 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:22:05 -0500, Kelman, Tom wrote: >> >And just to add to Bob's excellent explanation, as always. If you've >just upgraded your hardware and didn't have the IPLA agreement in place >you probably got extra entitlement based on the full capacity of the >processor. In that case

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ?

2007-09-24 Thread Richards.Bob
My original offer still stands. Call me. There is too much variation in circumstances to type an accurate response for your situation without typing a whole book. Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist - - Enterprise Techno

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ?

2007-09-24 Thread Al Sherkow
When you have signed a sub-capacity IPLA agreement, then your sub capacity products are 'tied' to a different number than your installed capacity. As someone pointed out earlier is the best reference for customers. There are different types of IPLA products

Re: alphaWorks : Console Command Generator for z/OS : Overview

2007-09-24 Thread Barkow, Eileen
John, Thanks alot for the info about the console command generator. I wish that it were better documented and it is not so easy to use if you are not that familiar with c on unix. I am kind of lost about how to make cclaunch, which is a c program needed to launch java (??) which itself must be apf

Re: alphaWorks : Console Command Generator for z/OS : Overview

2007-09-24 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:51 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: alphaWorks : Console Command Generator for z/OS > : Overview > > > John, > Thanks alot

Re: alphaWorks : Console Command Generator for z/OS : Overview

2007-09-24 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:51 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: alphaWorks : Console Command Generator for z/OS > : Overview > > > John, > Thanks alot

Re: alphaWorks : Console Command Generator for z/OS : Overview

2007-09-24 Thread Steve Comstock
Barkow, Eileen wrote: John, Thanks alot for the info about the console command generator. I wish that it were better documented and it is not so easy to use if you are not that familiar with c on unix. I am kind of lost about how to make cclaunch, which is a c program needed to launch java (??)

Re: WLC, WLM and all the rest: how optimize them ?

2007-09-24 Thread Kelman, Tom
> > You still pursued getting the IPLA sub-cap agreement signed, didn't you? > > While you won't get any money back, it proves to IBM that you are now > *over entitled*. It took me three years to grow into the entitlement I > already owned when I got that sub-cap agreement signed. > > Plus, if y

Re: alphaWorks : Console Command Generator for z/OS : Overview

2007-09-24 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Tried all that and get: # make cclaunch make: Error -- FSUM9415 Don't know how to make cclaunch # I am going to try to run this without the launcher but when i do i get that there is no main method in CCSample which there is. I added a main method to ConsoleCommand but that did not help. Another

Re: CNZ0005I MONITOR REJECTED. REASON=CONSOLE ID ZERO NOT SUPPORTED, at zOS 1.08

2007-09-24 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mattson > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 3:18 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: CNZ0005I MONITOR REJECTED. REASON=CONSOLE ID ZERO > NOT SUPPORTED, at zOS 1.08 > > >

COBOL called subroutines

2007-09-24 Thread John P Donnelly
…is it possible to trap the name of a program making a call to a subroutine? …IBM COBOL support did not seem to think so, but thought better check with “THE LIST”… John Donnelly z/OS Systems Services National Semiconductor Corporation 2900 Semiconductor Drive Santa Clara, CA 95051 PH: 408-721-564

CNZ0005I MONITOR REJECTED. REASON=CONSOLE ID ZERO NOT SUPPORTED, at zOS 1.08

2007-09-24 Thread John Mattson
Making the Quantum Leap from os390 .210 to zOS 1.08 and these messages are popping up early in my IPL sysout. Right after the LIST of my COMMND00 member. But I cannot really tell just what is causing them, my commands or what? INTERNAL 0090 CNZ0005I MONITOR REJECTED. REASON=CONSO

Re: COBOL called subroutines

2007-09-24 Thread Gary Green
As in intercepting the call by some "outside entity" before the subroutine is entered, or, after the subroutine has been entered? Both can be accomplished, although the latter is much easier. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joh

Re: DB2 DDF and OMVS

2007-09-24 Thread John Giltner
Kelman, Tom wrote: We are seeing an increase in DB2 DDF processing. At the same time we are seeing an increase in CPU utilization for the OMVS workload. Are they related? Does DB2 DDF processing utilized Unix Systems Services and OMVS? We are at DB2 v7. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansa

Re: CNZ0005I MONITOR REJECTED. REASON=CONSOLE ID ZERO NOT SUPPORTED, at zOS 1.08

2007-09-24 Thread Chris Mason
John Very often I reply in this list with "Google is your friend" - and indeed it is in this case. "CNZ0005I" gives three hits identifying APAR OA10632: NEW FUNCTION - COMPATIBILITY but, more importantly and precisely, OA17099: CNZ0005I MONITOR REJECTED. REASON=CONSOLE ID ZERO NOT SUPPORTED IS

Re: CNZ0005I MONITOR REJECTED. REASON=CONSOLE ID ZERO NOT SUPPORTED, at zOS 1.08

2007-09-24 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, I've done a bunch of conversions from OS/390 to z/OS for our clients and this same issue seems to come up on almost each of them. The monitor Jobnames command is used to put the Time, along with the Userid and jobname on the same line as the messages for all consoles that have monitor turned

From the RACF LIST (FYI)

2007-09-24 Thread Ed Gould
See IOSAS DOC APAR OW16610 (old) and IOSAS new function apar OA09050 (about 3 or so years old) The book that I located was z/OS V1R9.0 MVS Planning: Operations http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2g380 section 2.7.2.2 Restrictions for Console Names ___ Not