Re: NFS in an address space

2008-01-16 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Sair Camacho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > I have an address space with status NFS in a D A, command, this address > spaces can not be canceled or force in any way. Any comment? > > Thanks > > IEE115I 18.07.28 2008.016 ACTIVITY 675 > JOBS M/STS USE

Re: Flash memory arrays

2008-01-16 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) writes: > You have hit it the head. We had a unit that emulated a 2305 (don't > remember which model) it worked well . except when w

Computer Science etc etc

2008-01-16 Thread Keith Goodburn
"I agree. I think that a background in anything that is logically and mathematical is the best training for programming. I once worked with a fellow that had a degree in music. Although being a musician requires an artistic ability it is also very logical and mathematical. He was an excellent s

Re: Rexx IRXIC and IRXEXEC question

2008-01-16 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:01:51 +0100, Lindy Mayfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >About this, I asked IBM. Bottom line, can't be done according to >published specs. When you connect the dots, the docs do say that you >cannot replace the IO routines and run TSO commands. My bad for not >reading it

DFSMSdss DUMP...FCWD Behavior with OA18929

2008-01-16 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I remember seeing the blurb about OA18929 on IBM-Main several weeks ago: "DFSMSdss has been changed in APAR OA18929 to perform a volume INIT when FCWITHDRAW is specified on the DUMP when it is detected that it is needed." After verifying we had OA18929 installed, I decided to test out DFSMSd

Re: Flash memory arrays

2008-01-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: EMC announced DMX4 disk system ...without disks. Flash memory would be used as a disk module Simply back to the future again. Solid state devices were prevalent twenty or so years ago. Still, with today's technology it makes sense. Hopeful

Comments from a System Programmer

2008-01-16 Thread Ed Gould
I thought the group be interested in the comments from an IBM system Programmer about Mainframe costs. The article is at: >http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/ 0,289483,sid80_gci1293863,00.html? track=NL-576&ad=620634&asrc=EM_NLN_2899342&uid=6570353< (watch the wrap) Systems programme

Re: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL

2008-01-16 Thread Carl Edwards
--- Ron Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carl, > > I'll take a WAG that you are rewinding the tape at > the close of every output > file on the cartridge, and then repositioning to the > end of the last file to > write the next file in sequence. First thought that came to mind, but not the c

Re: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL

2008-01-16 Thread Carl Edwards
--- "Thompson, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Carl Edwards > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:40 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL > > We have a series

Re: Automated shutdown

2008-01-16 Thread David Logan
ADCD also comes with startup/shutdown STCs. Mine for example, looks like this (and as you can see uses a control file out of PARMLIB): BROWSEADCD.ZOSV1R5.PROCLIB(SHUTDOWN) - 01.00 Line Col 001 080 Command ===> Scroll ===> CSR **

Re: Flash memory arrays

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
B2F especially when you look at Moshe and EMC's history.. What goes around comes around. But I don't expect they'll be making furniture again :-) > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Bob Shannon > Sent: Wednesday, January 16,

Re: DFSORT question

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Yet another brain-fart... a bad week :-( > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dave Barry > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:46 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] DFSORT question > > Excellent suggestio

Re: Performance issues with VSAM IMBED

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Larry, Swings and roundabouts I think. IMBED would cause the sequence set to be pre-fetched along with the data and not pushed out by other cache activity. One cache miss is a lifetime compared to a cache hit on FE4. Sequential pre-fetch operates on a far wider stripe then one CYL (up to 64 track

Re: loose vs. lose

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
But a grammar checker does... > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:54 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] loose vs. lose > > >Spell checkers in the real wor

NFS in an address space

2008-01-16 Thread Sair Camacho
I have an address space with status NFS in a D A, command, this address spaces can not be canceled or force in any way. Any comment? Thanks IEE115I 18.07.28 2008.016 ACTIVITY 675 JOBS M/STS USERSSYSASINITS ACTIVE/MAX VTAM OAS 000800120

Re: loose vs. lose

2008-01-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Spell checkers in the real world are only useful to authors, and then only when used selectively. I do not have a spell checker on my BlackBerry. So, I attempt to be diligent on any message I send out. Also, a spell checker (in general) would not catch the LOOSE vs LOSE conundrum. - Too busy

Re: loose vs. lose

2008-01-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/10/2008 at 06:38 PM, "Van Dalsen, Herbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >All I can say is this... It amazes my that a sysprog with a gripe this >size, have not put this fingers to the keyboard and wrote a utility to >automatically invoke a spellchecker inside your emai

Re: Netspool

2008-01-16 Thread Roger Bolan
Ron, Netspool is part of Infoprint Server. A long long time ago it used to be available stand-alone, but no more. --Roger IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 01/16/2008 08:59:06 AM: > Anyone use/used IBM's Netspool > > Question isis it dependent on Infoprint being installed?

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 16, 2008, at 5:28 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote: ---SNIP The thing is, when I tried the "OEM Lock structure" with my 15 locks, I go an 'unexpected MQ error' or some such thing, and that OEM Lock structure allows more than 6 digits as input So I am really out of l

Re: WLM and DB2

2008-01-16 Thread Dave Barry
Only thing that I think of as a gotcha is that there is no direct way to limit the number of SP address spaces. If your application runs amok, you might face a pageable storage shortage. db -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gar

Fw: COBOL execution behavior

2008-01-16 Thread Bill Klein
There are LOTS of things to say on this topic and you should check out the manuals. Most importantly, 1) Make certain you know the differences (and interaction) between the Linker/Binder AMODE/RMODE settings and the compiler options for this (DATA and RMODE compiler options) 2) Are you talking ab

Re: Performance issues with VSAM IMBED

2008-01-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I could be wrong, but doesn't SMS stop IMBED and REPLICATE being used now >anyway? But, on existing files the parameters are still there. If you specify the parms in an IDCAMS job, they are ignored -- no syntax error. The file won't have them. It's not due to SMS, rather DFP. I modified VCLONE

Re: Performance issues with VSAM IMBED

2008-01-16 Thread Michael Poil
I could be wrong, but doesn't SMS stop IMBED and REPLICATE being used now anyway? Maybe it is under some circumstances (extended format?). Whatever, duplicating a index CI around a whole track is going to cost time during index updates. I am not current on the latest dasd and caching, but I see

Re: DFSORT question

2008-01-16 Thread Dave Barry
Excellent suggestion. However, IIRC, Hiperbatch doesn't support BSAM. db -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSORT question 2) HIPERBATC

Re: Rexx IRXIC and IRXEXEC question

2008-01-16 Thread Lindy Mayfield
About this, I asked IBM. Bottom line, can't be done according to published specs. When you connect the dots, the docs do say that you cannot replace the IO routines and run TSO commands. My bad for not reading it (even though I'd read through those docs looking for this for just over a year now.

Beta (MFNetDisk) in MVS, Is it an option like in open systems or not?

2008-01-16 Thread Shai Hess
HI, In PC and open system a lot of products are delivered to customer with the knowledge that their product have bugs and a lot of bugs but testing the product by users can assist to debug the product and to have comments from the users about the product in its current status. Sometime I believe

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Martin Packer
Not to comment on any reply in particular but rather to state the obvious:-)... I always say the estimates from CFSizer are a STARTING point. For example GBPs AREN'T going to be sized well from CFSizer. But this DOESN'T detract from Barbara's problem with CFSizer. Sorry to get disclaimery

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-16 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 1/16/2008 10:17:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: students with non-Computer Science backgrounds attempt a Master's degree. Some were more "natural" at it than others, and those with the following two undergraduate majors seemed the best able to

Re: PING time out

2008-01-16 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:45:34 -0600, Greg Shirey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So, my question to this esteemed group is what is there in the mainframe >IP environment could intermittently cause PING to fail? (And only to a >particular server - I set up a REXX to PING 5 servers, go to sleep for >30

Re: PING time out

2008-01-16 Thread Greg Shirey
Thanks Mark and Jack for the responses. Since then, the network guys admitted to changing something on the server. They blamed the intermittent problem with communicating from the mainframe on the router that connects the mainframe to the network -- something about how it has to hold a lot of inf

Re: z/OS and VM Control Blocks

2008-01-16 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Wow. It was written in '73. I was 8. The style of writing is so different from today's style. It makes me feel weird looking at that, like in a time warp or something. And it still works. I think of all the cool IBM DOS software I spent so much time collecting and had to throw away when Windo

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 Jan 2008 07:47:20 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelman, Tom) wrote: >I agree. I think that a background in anything that is logically and >mathematical is the best training for programming. I once worked with a >fellow that had a degree in music. Although being a musician requires >an artisti

Re: z/OS and VM Control Blocks

2008-01-16 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
If you have the JFCB then you have the Dataset Name. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject

Re: z/OS and VM Control Blocks

2008-01-16 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Lindy, Take a look at the CBT Tape. There should be a program out there called "CONCAT" (or similar). At my last shop, we used this program to, among others, add a personal Clist/REXX library to the TSO session's //SYSPROC DD concatenation. OK, so looking at the code might be considered cheating a

Re: z/OS and VM Control Blocks

2008-01-16 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Re: Getting datasets allocated to a job. Would you give me a hint, please, which field in the TIOT connects me with the datasets allocated to that DD name? I've looked and looked and the SWA to JFCB was all I could see. I feel so dumb sometimes because this stuff is so hard, but on the other han

Re: DFSORT question MERGE w/SUM FIELDS=NONE

2008-01-16 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- I have not done a merge in *YEARS*, having said that I believe (even if you concatenate) each concatenation has to be in a "higher" sequence than the file ahead of the concatenation (all records still must be in the right sequence) so (if) you can concatena

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Scott Fagen
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 Barbara Nitz wrote: >Yes, you're competely right. There is no defined support structure for the tool. >The last time I loudly complained here about the sizer (which was a few years >back) Bill Neiman of XCF development came forward and looked at the problem >and fixed it. I am h

Re: z/OS and VM Control Blocks

2008-01-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/06/2008 at 09:08 PM, Lindy Mayfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Anyway, whoohoo, I found what I was looking for (sort of) the thing which >started me on this thread. It's hung off of the TIOT which I looked at >up and down for ages. But it's not an address. It's

Re: IEBGENER is BROKEN

2008-01-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/15/2008 at 05:46 PM, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >as the TMP has no other way to signify EOF to the program. The TMP isn't involved; it's handled in the access method. BTW, if you allocate a DASD data set for SYSIN, *DON'T* put a /* at the end. --

Re: IEBGENER is BROKEN

2008-01-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/14/2008 at 04:38 PM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Historically, many programs have had RECFM, LRECL, and sometimes BLKSIZE >hard coded in DCB macros. And not documented :-( >(Usually the troublemaker would remember to specify a member name.) Ah, y

Re: IBM complementary tools

2008-01-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/10/2008 at 10:44 AM, Gerhard Postpischil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Or that Marty insisted on running Roscoe with TIME=1440, Cramer, not Goetz. >(Marty dared Shmuel/Seymour to do something about it No, he just said that they'd be done before I had the code in pl

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/16/2008 at 11:01 AM, "Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >This is the category of freeware internet toolz, warez etc. etc. If they >work, they work, if they don't you have bad luck. The price/performance >ratio also prevents you from complaining. I'v

Re: Used Sysplex Timers 9037-2

2008-01-16 Thread Scott Fagen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (copied from the newsgroup): > Does anyone know if there is a market for used Sysplex Timers? We're > getting rid of ours and have heard rumors that other companies are > willing to buy. Is that true? How much could we get? I'm sure there is some sort of secondary market

Re: Weird IBM alerts (NDA)

2008-01-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
Binyamin Dissen wrote: Might I be the only one to think that the last two IBM alerts are quite weird? Sorry, cannot provide details of them as they are under an NDA - but those who are also signed to the NDA - do they seem weird to you as well? They're just trying to make sure nobody gets "

Re: Flash memory arrays

2008-01-16 Thread Bob Shannon
> EMC announced DMX4 disk system ...without disks. Flash memory would be > used as a disk module Simply back to the future again. Solid state devices were prevalent twenty or so years ago. Still, with today's technology it makes sense. Hopefully it will provide both better performance (no seek t

Flash memory arrays

2008-01-16 Thread R.S.
EMC announced DMX4 disk system ...without disks. Flash memory would be used as a disk module. Questions/observations: 1. End of magnetic platters ? 2. Another level of virtualization (or translation). Flash device emulates disk module. Disk modules are used for CKD emulation. 3. Maybe there is n

Re: Weird IBM alerts (NDA)

2008-01-16 Thread Scott Fagen
Binyamin Dissen wrote: >Might I be the only one to think that the last two IBM alerts are quite weird? > >Sorry, cannot provide details of them as they are under an NDA - but those who >are also signed to the NDA - do they seem weird to you as well? I'll be equally obtuse...no, doesn't seem weird

Mike Poil is out of the office on holiday.

2008-01-16 Thread Michael Poil
I will be out of the office starting 16/01/2008 and will not return until 21/01/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. Stephen Flavell is my team leader should you need to contact someone in the JTC before my return. -

Re: Can a pdf document be create using COBOL?

2008-01-16 Thread Jack . Hamilton
Yes, SAS can produce a PDF file on the mainframe. It can include tables, text, and graphics. I usually mail the result to myself using the SAS email engine so I don't have to do a manual FTP (we don't have shared drives). It can also produce an XML file that Excel knows how to read as a mult

Re: Performance issues with VSAM IMBED

2008-01-16 Thread Larry Crilley
I would think IMBED could degrade performance when doing sequential I/O. Given enough buffers, VSAM can read in as much as an entire CA's worth of data with each I/O. Since IMBED would take an entire track away from your CA size, then your CA is significantly smaller and less data can be returned

Re: Automated shutdown

2008-01-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:53:24 -0500, Mark Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is there a way to automate the shutdown of z/OS? I hate having to follow a >script, typing all of the commands to stop tasks. Of course there are automation products that you can by to take care of this. There some free

Re: Performance issues with VSAM IMBED

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Merritt
IIRC, these features caused index entries to be embedded in the data and then replicated to fill out a partially used CI/CA. The idea was to minimize arm/head movement and rotational latency as VSAM tried to satisfied a random read request. It follows that performance implications would vary de

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-16 Thread Michael Stack
At 09:47 AM 1/16/2008, you wrote: >> >... >> - >I agree. I think that a background in anything that is logically and >mathematical is the best training for programming. I once worked with a >f

Re: Performance issues with VSAM IMBED

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Lizette, >From the Storage side I would disagree that imbed and replicate degrade >performance. Yes, REPLICATE wastes space, and neither actually improve >performance, but there is no degradation. IMBED was meant to reduce seek, and REPLICATE to reduce Latency. Thus the statement " have been o

Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-16 Thread Birger Heede
Hal, You have probably already seen the SCRT User Guide about the option for going 'straight thru' is one you select (AUTO versus HOLD). I think (I am not the authority on this) that IBM recommends you to review the data before submitting.I am not aware of IBM insisting on any manual steps (anymo

Re: SMP/E HOLDs: ACTION vs. IPL

2008-01-16 Thread Marna WALLE
Bruce, Not at all. In fact, that is part of the "appropriate education" that will be taking place with RMF. -Marna WALLE z/OS System Build and Install IBM Poughkeepsie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruc

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-16 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 1/16/2008 9:47:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Although being a musician requires an artistic ability it is also very logical and mathematical. He was an excellent systems programmer. Mathematics, music, and foreign language ability are though

Re: Netspool

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Wells
Anyone use/used IBM's Netspool Question isis it dependent on Infoprint being installed?? -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged in

Re: DFSORT question MERGE w/SUM FIELDS=NONE

2008-01-16 Thread Frank Yaeger
Ed Gould wrote on 01/15/2008 09:07:38 PM: > I believe (even > if you concatenate) each concatenation has to be in a "higher" > sequence than the file ahead of the concatenation (all records still > must be in the right sequence) so (if) you can concatenate the > records must be in sequence. I hope

Re: FDR Upstream Product

2008-01-16 Thread Brian France
We use it to backup our z/VM and MainFrameLinux world to z/OS for the same reasons. We are happy with it. At 10:45 AM 1/16/2008, you wrote: "Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > I was curious if anyone has used the UpStream product from FDR. It is > a produ

Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Merritt
"Straight through"? As Al posted, we have teeth marks on our backsides because the posting person got distracted. More, we were on the committee that invented dirt know that human intervention always fails now and again. Always. But IBM has taken quite a hard line. I would love to implement a ful

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-16 Thread Kelman, Tom
> > > - > I will PARTLY agree with Clark on this. There a few aspects of Computer > Science that are important and useful, such as Data Structures. But I've > found that a background that is mo

Re: FDR Upstream Product

2008-01-16 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > I was curious if anyone has used the UpStream product from FDR. It is > a product that will allow you to backup servers running Windows, > Netware, Solaris, etc via a job running under z/OS. Then you can use > your VTS and

Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Did you just click on the Go button for > "Jump to most recent announcement letters"? > > Or did you type in 3490 in the Keywords search box > and click Go? I got: > > End of service: Machine Type 3490, selected models > announcement lette

Performance issues with VSAM IMBED

2008-01-16 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have been reading the z/OS V1.7 to V1.9 Migration guide and though it states you do not need to remove IMBED, REPLCIATE or KEYRANGE. It does mention that there is a performance issue by having them on your VSAM files. I was wondering if anyone did an analysis to see what the buy back for VSAM

Re: Automated shutdown

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Merritt
I use a couple of started tasks that are just IEFBR14's with a series of // COMMAND statements. The fist STC issues shutdown commands for all of the onlines, inits, and monitors. The second issues shutdown commands for major subsystems such as DB2, MQ, TCPIP, RMM, and TSO. The third kills VTAM, DLF

Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Sorry, Steve. I didn't see your reply until after I had hit "send" on mine. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM announcements

Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
It's announcement letter 907-053 dated March 27, 2007. After a bit of trial-and-error on that page, I hit the advanced search button, kept the search type of announcement letter, set a date range of 2006-2008, and user 3490* as my product number. I got a reasonable 8 hits to my search and was l

Re: Automated shutdown

2008-01-16 Thread Stephen Wolf
The CBT tape has many MPF exit examples for automation and of course the "AUTO" command. For syslogd shutdown look at IBM site for the z/OS UNIX tools for BPXSTOP. Steve Wolf Rockwell Automation 414-382-4308 -- For IBM-MAIN sub

Re: PING time out

2008-01-16 Thread Jack Kelly
< At that time, when we tried to PING the server, it timed out. Five > minutes later, we got a response back from the server, so the job reran > to success. < I've never had a network problem that the network folks admitted to. But that's another story One of the things that I tend to run i

Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Steve Comstock
Jim McAlpine wrote: On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jim McAlpine wrote: Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site. Jim McAlpine Try this: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. Thanks for t

Weird IBM alerts (NDA)

2008-01-16 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Might I be the only one to think that the last two IBM alerts are quite weird? Sorry, cannot provide details of them as they are under an NDA - but those who are also signed to the NDA - do they seem weird to you as well? -- Binyamin Dissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.dissensoftware.com Direc

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/14/2008 at 03:12 PM, Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >UWaterloo allum, huh... Ever encounter 'P1'? It was a load of laughs. Of course, that wasn't what the author intended ;-) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/14/2008 at 11:56 AM, Rick Fochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >? There's More Than One Way To Do It is a very common phrase in the Perl community. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL

2008-01-16 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Edwards Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL We have a series of jobs that use IDCAMS to move data from one platform to another.

Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim McAlpine wrote: > > Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site. > > > > Jim McAlpine > > Try this: > > http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss > > > Kind regards, > > -Steve Comstock > The Trainer's Friend, Inc. Thanks for

Re: Automated shutdown

2008-01-16 Thread Mark Jacobs
Mark Pace wrote: > Is there a way to automate the shutdown of z/OS? I hate having to follow a > script, typing all of the commands to stop tasks. > > Also, is there a command to stop syslogd, other than to cancel it? > > Thanks very much. > > Er, that is what an automated operations product doe

Automated shutdown

2008-01-16 Thread Mark Pace
Is there a way to automate the shutdown of z/OS? I hate having to follow a script, typing all of the commands to stop tasks. Also, is there a command to stop syslogd, other than to cancel it? Thanks very much. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -

Re: IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Steve Comstock
Jim McAlpine wrote: Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site. Jim McAlpine Try this: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier *

IBM announcements

2008-01-16 Thread Jim McAlpine
Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http:

Test message -- Please ignore

2008-01-16 Thread Chase, John
Testing.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL

2008-01-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:08:39 -0600, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Edwards >> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:40 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >> Subject: IDCAMS Repro v

Re: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL

2008-01-16 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Edwards > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:40 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL > > > We have a series of jobs that use IDCAMS to move data > from one

DADSM Program

2008-01-16 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I just downloaded the DADSM program from the CBT site file 527. I used that program for a long time at P&H Mining. I originally got it from a tape maybe 20 years ago that was put together by Dale Chaney, who used to be an IBM SE, and put together a whole bunch of shareware on a tape way back t

Re: PING time out

2008-01-16 Thread Mark Jacobs
Greg Shirey wrote: > Fellow listers, > > We have some batch jobs that run early in the morning, create a file, > then FTP it to a server in our network. We had one of the jobs fail to > FTP, getting the message: > EZA2589E Connection to server interrupted or timed out. Initial > connection > >

PING time out

2008-01-16 Thread Greg Shirey
Fellow listers, We have some batch jobs that run early in the morning, create a file, then FTP it to a server in our network. We had one of the jobs fail to FTP, getting the message: EZA2589E Connection to server interrupted or timed out. Initial connection At that time, when we tried to PING

Re: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL

2008-01-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:18:05 -0800, Ron Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Carl, > >I'll take a WAG that you are rewinding the tape at the close of every output >file on the cartridge, and then repositioning to the end of the last file to >write the next file in sequence. > >Using DFSMSdss logica

non-mainframe post (was Re: Outsourced - the movie)

2008-01-16 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 1/16/2008 6:50:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Totally ignores the effects of outsourcing on the workers in Seattle who lost their jobs. But, hey, it's Hollywood. Maybe there's an Indian movie that concentrates on the effects of insourcing on

Re: IEBGENER is BROKEN

2008-01-16 Thread Steve Comstock
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:01:58 -0700, Steve Comstock wrote: And I might mention that DUMMY is __required__. We had some jobs that ran with SYSIN being a DD *, but with no control cards. This is, technically, equivalent to DUMMY, but not by ICEGENER. The same applies to an "e

Outsourced - the movie

2008-01-16 Thread Steve Comstock
For those of you living in the Denver area, this movie (which I mentioned here in passing a few weeks ago) is showing at the Starz theatres in the old Tivoli brewing complex on the Auraria campus. It's an OK flick. It uses the hook of a Seattle based manager having to go to India to train the gro

Rexx IRXIC and IRXEXEC question

2008-01-16 Thread Lindy Mayfield
The Rexx IRXIC (Trace and Execution control) allows one to enter some commands like TS for trace start. Would something like this work? I initialize an environment with IRXINIT, replace the Input/Output routine with my own , run IRXIC with TS command to turn on tracing, then run an exec with IRXE

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Barbara Nitz
Kees, come on! :-) "This is the category of freeware internet toolz, warez etc. etc. If they work, they work, if they don't you have bad luck. The price/performance ratio also prevents you from complaining. This is the new IT world where cellphones, ipods etc. have such a short lifecycle that it

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Barbara Nitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > In preparation of driver67L which for us includes changing to CFLevel15 we also checked structure sizes (again). I was informed for the first time that the sizer is completely useless, as it only accepts 9 locks f

CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Barbara Nitz
In preparation of driver67L which for us includes changing to CFLevel15 we also checked structure sizes (again). I was informed for the first time that the sizer is completely useless, as it only accepts 9 locks for the IRLM structures (IMS and DB2), and in our installation, a single program

Re: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Hawkins
Carl, I'll take a WAG that you are rewinding the tape at the close of every output file on the cartridge, and then repositioning to the end of the last file to write the next file in sequence. Using DFSMSdss logical dump to a single tape dataset eliminates that problem. Ron > jobs runs, they