Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Timothy Sipples
PROFS is still around, although the new name (and new version) is now OfficeVision. You can get more details on OfficeVision/MVS here: http://www.ibm.com/software/applications/office/officevision/index.html Yes, it's available for ordering. The IBM product number is 5685-106. Re: Faxing, I think

Re: system stalled message

2008-04-03 Thread Barbara Nitz
Mary, >IXC431I GROUP RIOXCF44 MEMBER MHSE JOB RIODSA01 ASID 004E 236 >STALLED AT 04/03/2008 12:46:08.172851 ID: 1.1 ... >Can anyone give me some information on this? I'm at a loss since I don't >see an RIO** job or STC, etc. Do a D XCF,grp,rioxcf44,all. What you *should* see is only STCs at an ex

Re: direct attach PC to Hitachi, EMC or IBM.

2008-04-03 Thread shai hess
RON, If the HDS box is configure and have definition for 3390 without running ickdsf, is it posible that I from PC will create 3390 disk with the data which is created in the PC hard disk? Sorry that it seem that I claim that I have the only features of SRDF, Emulates 3390 etc..and nobody have

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Barbara Nitz
John, >They will NEVER be changed once they are used for an IPL. Instead, I will >change the IEASYSnn member to point to a new GRSRNLnn member that has >never been used before. But the question remains as to why I cannot more >easily recover from this sort of user error? I don't think using ano

Re: system stalled message

2008-04-03 Thread Shane Ginnane
> Does anyone know what causes a SYSTEM STALLED message? We have a > multi-system sysplex, 2 LPARS, no CF. The messages manual offers several possibilities for IXC431I > I am unfamiliar with checking the utilization of the XCF > Communications paths. Is there a command I issue or is there anot

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Knutson, Sam
Someone already pointed out a solution is to share a PARMLIB and a common RNL specification. I have to side with IBM's choice on this one. It is much better to have a system dead with a clear indication of what you messed up than for it to be alive but perhaps confused having made dangerous assump

Re: MFNetDisk, is it a good product?

2008-04-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
Shai I'm trying not be HDS only in my reply. Your claim of " Nobody in MF market" is a pretty hard pill to swallow - in fact I choked! Just for the record: > > Nobody in MF market have the MFNetDisk features. > > The features are: > > 1. Emulate 3390 with data in PC the same as IBM emulates

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
Shai, Without knowing it you are the one that is setting up XP and Home-brand desktops as the reference architecture for your product. Throughout this thread for example, you consistently refer to XP as if it is your OS of choice, and PC as the platform. You are postioning your product as a workst

Re: direct attach PC to Hitachi, EMC or IBM.

2008-04-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
Shai, Let me see if I have this right. You have been contacted by someone with some model of HDS Disk array formatted for MF, but they don't have a MF to connect it to. You want to read the data from the MF formatted volumes via Fibre Channel. If that's it, then I'm afraid you are out of like. Th

Re: direct attach PC to Hitachi, EMC or IBM.

2008-04-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
Radoslaw and Eric. I did make it known when I changed to full time employee back in 2003. I felt that I could no longer regard my posts as 100% untainted by my employment staus at that point - but I try. As for the software, HMDE = Rapid Exchange. It has changed names again and is now called C

Re: How to check if a job has run?

2008-04-03 Thread Brian Westerman
I have a program (there are several available) that sends an email with the condition codes implemented as the last step of a job, and our scheduling product (SyzAuto) automatically adds that step for every job that it runs. One of the accounts that gets notified is a email task that accepts th

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>http://www.rogerdmoore.ca/INF/EIPSPTTa.html Wow, it's a small small world. I used to attend lectures given by Ian Sharp, in the 1970's, at UWaterloo. And, he was a Bridge partner of mine in thew mid-1980's. Is he still around? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! ---

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2008-04-03 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, McKown, John wrote: > I admit to being uninterested in the product (nothing new about that > with me, at times) and a bit bored with it as well. > Oh, just to mention. I am not saying that Shai should not post here. I'm just remarking on this particular product/function. --

Re: Shai Hess and his product (was CA ESD files Options)

2008-04-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:49 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Shai Hess and his product (was CA ESD files Options) > > > I haven't tried very hard, but I s

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 03/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I was at Varian Associates, I wrote a PROFS-to-Telex interface. I > wonder if anyone still uses PROFS (officially discontinued in favor of the > great-in-theory-but-wretched-in-practice Lotus Notes)? Or even Telexes? > At the t

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Because you're not in a Sysplex doing rolling IPLs? That doesn't work if the RNL is different/wrong on any system. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send emai

Re: Shai Hess and his product (was CA ESD files Options)

2008-04-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I haven't tried very hard, but I see no need for this product. And, I'm sick of hearing about it. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Ran into that problem several months ago. I had system "A" up on a good RNL. IPLed system "B" with one that didn't match and BOOM! Wait state on system "B". I have always hated this limitation. As far as I'm concerned, the first system IPL'd should read the RNL. The rest should query as they co

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Jack . Hamilton
When I was at Varian Associates, I wrote a PROFS-to-Telex interface. I wonder if anyone still uses PROFS (officially discontinued in favor of the great-in-theory-but-wretched-in-practice Lotus Notes)? Or even Telexes? At the time, there was a legal requirement that Telexes met but email did n

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Brad, When I was working at P&H Mining, when they still had a mainframe, they did faxing through CICS, a special PC that came with the product, and a Unix application that ran on the mainframe. This was the only Unix system we had on the mainframe. The only problem is - I can't remember the n

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
Brad Wissink wrote: We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing wit

Re: system stalled message

2008-04-03 Thread Gregory Pinkowski
Security Center does have sysplex support using the coupling facility but that's been pretty reliable, it might be the victim. The product has mulitple address spaces. Did you give Vanguard a call? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:14 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Another RNL question > > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:44:53 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > > >> --

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Hal Merritt
You might be surprised just how many fax solutions are just because that's the way it's always been done and the recipient would -much- rather have email. To answer your question, we email. Be aware we have had problems when an individual goes on vacation and the mailbox fills up. -Original

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 14:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > If you must fax, then email to a fax server inside your own > organization. I figure that I could put up a Linux/Intel system to do > this in a couple of days. This is a bigger job than you might think. Your customers have a wide variety of

Re: system stalled message

2008-04-03 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
We have 2 engines, no ICF or CF, and 2 LPARS in a SYSPLEX that share both engines. I am unfamiliar with checking the utilization of the XCF Communications paths. Is there a command I issue or is there another utility I can use to check them? Thanks, Mary -Original Message- From: IBM Mai

Re: system stalled message

2008-04-03 Thread Staller, Allan
The messages indicate delay's in XCF processing. Are you by any chance running an ICF on a shared engine? If you are not running a ICF or a CF, check the utilization of your XCF Communications paths. HTH, Does anyone know what causes a SYSTEM STALLED message? We have a multi-system sysplex, 2

Re: system stalled message

2008-04-03 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Yes, we do. I've narrowed it down to possibly an XCF problem with Riovision. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Kopischke Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: system stalled message On

Re: system stalled message

2008-04-03 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:53:58 -0500, Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: >Can anyone give me some information on this? I'm at a loss since I don't see >an RIO** job or STC, etc. Do you have Vanguard Security products ??? I've seen RIO* messages in association with the RIOVision tasks. Not sure if t

Re: Shai Hess and his product (was CA ESD files Options)

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Rowe
Well done, Greg. You said what I was thinking far better than I did. Shai, it's not a matter of 1 or 2 of us not liking your product, the point is that your ignorance of our experiences and attitudes have most likely excluded you from the VAST majority of the mainframe sites represented on thi

system stalled message

2008-04-03 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Hi Everyone, Does anyone know what causes a SYSTEM STALLED message? We have a multi-system sysplex, 2 LPARS, no CF. Here is the message, IXC431I GROUP RIOXCF44 MEMBER MHSE JOB RIODSA01 ASID 004E 236 STALLED AT 04/03/2008 12:46:08.172851 ID: 1.1 LAST MSGX: 04/03/2008 12:43:10.885316 17 S

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/02/2008 at 09:53 PM, shai hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > You can have a problem with XP/Linux if you surfing the Internet >looking for unreliable sites (XXX site, maybe for the guy who reboot the >PC after 2 hours :)), or if you open email from non authorize pe

Re: CPU-Time in z/Os-System. Is The Cpu Time In z/Os-systems A Meaningful Indication?

2008-04-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/02/2008 at 04:35 AM, Sascha Weng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I have a programm written in Cobol which runs monthly on a z/Os-System. >The programm reads inputrecords and writes them in a database (DB2) and >in different outputfiles. It consumes nearly the same num

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/02/2008 at 11:18 PM, shai hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > MF is a close system, and there are no millions of genius evil people >who try to hack the MF. XP is also a closed system. >because MF does not have antivirus software. It has AV software, but only needs

Re: Workload Manager

2008-04-03 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Thanks everyone. I'll check these out. Mary :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Thorn Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Workload Manager Another good one would be Barry Merrill'

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/01/2008 at 10:38 PM, shai hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >So in general you can have very cheap storage (HARD DISK) which can >emulate any 3390 size disk (all models and all size, even 100 cylinders >is OK ) which can replace any tapes No. One aspect of real tapes

Shai Hess and his product (was CA ESD files Options)

2008-04-03 Thread Greg Saccomanno
Not that I had any real interest but your ignorance in the mainframe architecture would certainly eliminate any intention I could ever have of running your product. If you knew more about the design and what protects the mainframe you would know why most (if not all) hacks wouldn't work in a p

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:31:34 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > > But the question >remains as to why I cannot more easily recover from this sort of user >error? Because you're not in a Sysplex doing rolling IPLs? -- Tom Marchant

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Staller, Allan
Actually, with the proper investment in application/planning, it *IS* zero down time. But it is not ZERO down time. It is simply LESS downtime. In our shop, to simply recycle a CICS region (down then up) takes a minimum of about 10 minutes (no, I've not done a stop watch on this) Of course, th

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2008-04-03 Thread R D Boenig
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Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:44:53 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant >> >> >> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:21:19 -0500, John McKown wrote: >> > >> >Just another "I hate sysplex" message from me.

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Apr 2008 12:50:45 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: >We don't do this, but I'd look at using email. If you must fax, then >email to a fax server inside your own organization. I figure that I >could put up a Linux/Intel system to do this in a couple of days. That's our solution a

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread George Fogg
>> John McKown wrote: >> > Can anybody tell me the logic >> > at IPL time to force the IPL'ing system into a wait state >> if the new >> > system's RNL does not match the RNL of the sysplex? >> Ran into that problem several months ago. I had system "A" up on a good RNL. IPLed system "B" with one th

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:47:59 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Zelden wrote: >> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:27:11 -0400, Craddock, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes the job can run anywhere that has an available initiator for the job >>> class. However as a practical matte

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Craddock, Chris
Ed said; > ROTFLMAO! This JES2 job scheduling design flaw has been around since > before I started programming for a living! Aw geez Ed, don't sit on the fence. Tell us what you really think :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

Re: I'll Keep My Dinosaur

2008-04-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:32:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SLA is. >> Sorry, old T-rex performance term for Service Level Agreement. What your users want and what they can live with. Corporately how to allocate resources to get your business done within b

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Stitt > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:43 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Another RNL question > > > I've learned to update the one used at IPL time. Then make > t

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Wissink > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:41 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Faxing from the mainframe > > > We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders > t

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:27:11 -0400, Craddock, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes the job can run anywhere that has an available initiator for the job class. However as a practical matter (at least with JES2) the job almost always runs on the same system where it is submitt

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:17 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Another RNL question > > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:21:19 -0500, John McKown wrote: > > > >Jus

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Matthew Stitt
I've learned to update the one used at IPL time. Then make the change dynamically specifying that member to be used. That way things "SHOULD" be the same upon the next IPL of one of the systems. The biggest problem I run into are enqueues that will not release, thus holding up the dynamic RNL ch

Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Brad Wissink
We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mai

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:09 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Another RNL question > > > John McKown wrote: > > Can anybody tell me the logic > > at IPL

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Lyon > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:09 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Another RNL question > > > > > >I agree with that. What I was saying is that this is the

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Hal Merritt
Sorry, I should have looked before I typed. It is on the INTRDR statement: $HASP838 INTRDR AUTH=(DEVICE=NO,JOB=YES,SYSTEM=YES),BATCH=YES, $HASP838 CLASS=A,HOLD=NO,HONORLIM=NO,PRTYINC=0, $HASP838 PRTYLIM=15,SYSAFF=(LPR3),TRACE=NO Z/os 1.7. When the se

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eatherly, John D [EQ] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:43 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Another RNL question > > > We have a parmlib that is shared by the whole sysplex.

Re: Workload Manager

2008-04-03 Thread Dave Thorn
Another good one would be Barry Merrill's listservwhile it's generally oriented toward his MXG product there are often performance discussions there as well. See www.mxg.com And system performance is one of the main areas of interest at CMG...if you can get out of the office. Dave Thorn * S

Re: Workload Manager

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:59:13 -0500, Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Everyone, >Does anyone know of a Workload Manager users group or listserver? >Thanks, >Mary Yukus IBM-MAIN. :-) Actually there is a WLM group on news.software.ibm.com, but the last time I checked (over

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:27:11 -0400, Craddock, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you do not use a SYSAFF card thereby taking the default of >SYSAFF=ANY >> will a job run only on the LPAR that it is submitted from? Can it ever >run >> on an LPAR other than the one submitted without a SYSAFF card

Re: Workload Manager

2008-04-03 Thread Matthew Stitt
You are here. This is it. Although Al Sherkow runs a list for capacity/billing concerns/performance concerns. I don't follow that one as I find it above my head, too management oriented for me. On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:59:13 -0500, Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Everyon

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Tom Schmidt
Oh? What level of JES2 allows for a SYSAFF setting on the JOBCLASS ? INTRDR has a SYSAFF. JOBCLASS has a QAFF (at least on z/OS 1.8 JES2). But I'm not recalling any vaguely current JES2 with SYSAFF on JOBCLASS... - On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:44:49 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote: >Well, actually, ther

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Snipped (I'm sure you know..) ICF is not required for a sysplex. Only for a parallel sysplex. You can still achieve high availability with a basic sysplex. Just not the highest availability. End Snipped Still beats a chickenplex - hundreds of servers tied together with IP. Daniel McLau

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:12:25 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tom Marchant wrote: >> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:21:19 -0500, John McKown wrote: >>> Just another "I hate sysplex" message from me. No, don't bother to justify >>> it. At my shop, it is not justifiable as far as I am concerned (only o

Workload Manager

2008-04-03 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Hi Everyone, Does anyone know of a Workload Manager users group or listserver? Thanks, Mary Yukus -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN IN

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Hal Merritt
Well, actually, there is no default. The action taken depends on the SYSAFF setting for the job class. And I'm too lazy to look up -that- default :-) Our scheduler runs on a 'penalty box' (an LPAR capped to save on software costs) and submits jobs there as do our TSO users. However, all jobs witho

Re: U.S. suspends IBM from seeking new federal contracts

2008-04-03 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:20:47 EDT, Ed Finnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >In a message dated 4/1/2008 10:07:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Ed Gould must be on vacation. So, I'm posting this instead. ;-) > >>> >Haven't heard from him since prior to SHARE-maybe he's sh

Re: I'll Keep My Dinosaur

2008-04-03 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Weird situation...don't seem to have any. Our mainframe is the report generator and most of this is quick ad hoc stuff. No one is hollering, so we must be meeting whatever the SLA is. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information & Communications Technology Crawford & Company 46

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Craddock, Chris
> If you do not use a SYSAFF card thereby taking the default of SYSAFF=ANY > will a job run only on the LPAR that it is submitted from? Can it ever run > on an LPAR other than the one submitted without a SYSAFF card? Yes the job can run anywhere that has an available initiator for the job class. H

Re: I'll Keep My Dinosaur

2008-04-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/3/2008 12:55:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Monthend/quarter end here. SDSF shows input queue currently at 9,818 with a high of 9925 shortly before that. >> How are you doing with SLA's??? **Planning your summer road trip?

I'll Keep My Dinosaur

2008-04-03 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Monthend/quarter end here. SDSF shows input queue currently at 9,818 with a high of 9925 shortly before that. I'll keep my dinosaur, someone else can feed the chickens. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information & Communications Technology Crawford & Company 4680 N. Royal Atl

LMCOPY and PDSE space release?

2008-04-03 Thread Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I LMCOPY/REPLACE a number of members into a PDSE, one copy command per member, when is space occupied by the replaced members available for reuse? o At the end of LMCOPY command? o When I LMFREE the LIBDEF? o When I free the DDNAME? o Other (specify)? What's the tradeoff between electively

Re: Optimizing COBOL generated assembler

2008-04-03 Thread GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS
Or use S99 COMP-5. COMP-5 Truncates by Binary Integer Rules instead of Cobol Picture Rules. Darren -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Poil Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Opti

Re: direct attach PC to Hitachi, EMC or IBM.

2008-04-03 Thread R.S.
Eric Bielefeld wrote: Radoslaw, I don't know if you are aware of it or not, but Ron Hawkins works for Hitachi. When he writes something about DASD, especially HDS DASD, I take it as fact. I just looked at a past posting of Ron's from today, and I didn't see any mention of the fact that he w

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread R.S.
Tom Marchant wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:21:19 -0500, John McKown wrote: Just another "I hate sysplex" message from me. No, don't bother to justify it. At my shop, it is not justifiable as far as I am concerned (only one box). Sysplex *is* justifiable on one box. With a good sysplex design,

Re: Archiving open systems data on WORM via MF

2008-04-03 Thread Natasa Savinc
Thank you, all! Timothy, I am impressed, almost everything you said in your introduction is true. I am still ‘digesting’ your options (didn’t have much time, had some problems with JES2). Just wanted to thank you for such an elaborate answer. I am considering options 1b and 2b, although we neve

Re: direct attach PC to Hitachi, EMC or IBM.

2008-04-03 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Radoslaw, I don't know if you are aware of it or not, but Ron Hawkins works for Hitachi. When he writes something about DASD, especially HDS DASD, I take it as fact. I just looked at a past posting of Ron's from today, and I didn't see any mention of the fact that he works for Hitachi, so you

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:21:19 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >Just another "I hate sysplex" message from me. No, don't bother to justify >it. At my shop, it is not justifiable as far as I am concerned (only one >box). Sysplex *is* justifiable on one box. With a good sysplex design, you can shift all p

Re: z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 upgrade differences question

2008-04-03 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
I got an answer back from IBM development today on it, and they're in essence saying the same thing, albeit more generically. The answer I got was "Rex...According to development: All data sets can potentially display SMS data now therefore the change. Apart from the SMS data, information shoul

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
Shai, you seem to spend a lot of time pomoting your own product, either openly or subtly. Methinks you may already been contacted by those that are interested or want further information. Hint? You right, PC is not a good name, better to say that my produ

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Rowe
Yes, the default is SYSAFF=ANY, which will allow the job to run in any system in the MAS. There is a command which can be executed at JES2 initialization (from the init parms), that will set the INTRDR default to *, which will effectivly change the default so that jobs will run only on the syst

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Dave Thorn
A job can run on any LPAR that has a job class matching the one on the job card. This is the simple answer; where a job runs can be managed with WLM and other things such as automation. Dave Thorn * Senior Technology Analyst * SunGard Computer Services * 600 Laurel Oak Road, Voorhees, NJ, 08043 O

Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Jacobs
Bill Johnson wrote: > If you do not use a SYSAFF card thereby taking the default of SYSAFF=ANY will > a job run only on the LPAR that it is submitted from? Can it ever run on an > LPAR other than the one submitted without a SYSAFF card? > > TIA > > Bill Johnson > > It depends. Wit

SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Bill Johnson
If you do not use a SYSAFF card thereby taking the default of SYSAFF=ANY will a job run only on the LPAR that it is submitted from? Can it ever run on an LPAR other than the one submitted without a SYSAFF card? TIA Bill Johnson - You rock. That

Re: direct attach PC to Hitachi, EMC or IBM.

2008-04-03 Thread R.S.
Ron Hawkins wrote: Shai, Just to get things right, there is no such thing as a 3390 ot 3990 controller. There are Disk arrays that can have CKD volumes connected by FICON or ESCON, or FBA LUNs connected through Fibre Channel or iSCSI. There is also a plethora of storage that is FBA Fibre Channel

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
John McKown wrote: Can anybody tell me the logic at IPL time to force the IPL'ing system into a wait state if the new system's RNL does not match the RNL of the sysplex? I'm pretty sure it just issues the LPSW instruction. ;-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Centu

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Patrick Lyon
>I agree with that. What I was saying is that this is the way we avoid the issues all together. We had some finger checks early on when we were started doing sysplex and decided to have a shared parmlib to avoid it. This library has grown some to have other members that are shared. We have

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread shai hess
> > There is a BIG difference between a PC and an x86 server class > machine. You seem to be unaware of the knowledge and attitude of your > audience. Your recent >comments have made me reconsider the minor interest > I had in your product. I don't think I would touch it now with a ten foot > po

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread R.S.
John McKown wrote: On z/OS 1.8, if that makes any difference. Can anybody tell me the logic at IPL time to force the IPL'ing system into a wait state if the new system's RNL does not match the RNL of the sysplex? Now, I understand why all systems in a sysplex need the same RNL. But I am curious

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Eatherly, John D [EQ]
I agree with that. What I was saying is that this is the way we avoid the issues all together. We had some finger checks early on when we were started doing sysplex and decided to have a shared parmlib to avoid it. This library has grown some to have other members that are shared. We have 6

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Rob Scott
John, On a production sysplex, surely the wait state is the only sensible thing to do? At that stage in system creation, GRS is expected to be active and it has found that to carry on would compromise the integrity of the resources - it must fall in its sword to protect your data and other syst

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Rowe
There is a BIG difference between a PC and an x86 server class machine. You seem to be unaware of the knowledge and attitude of your audience. Your recent comments have made me reconsider the minor interest I had in your product. I don't think I would touch it now with a ten foot pole. >>> s

Re: Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread Eatherly, John D [EQ]
We have a parmlib that is shared by the whole sysplex. And the GRSRNL is one of the members that is in that library. That way, they are always the same. You don't have to duplicate members. Thanks John Eatherly -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PR

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (shai hess) writes: > Buffer overflow is a programming error. if you use some C command (reading > strings command etc...) you can have a problem.

Another RNL question

2008-04-03 Thread John McKown
On z/OS 1.8, if that makes any difference. Can anybody tell me the logic at IPL time to force the IPL'ing system into a wait state if the new system's RNL does not match the RNL of the sysplex? Now, I understand why all systems in a sysplex need the same RNL. But I am curious as to why I am not

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread shai hess
RON, Linux is also IBM MF with Linux :). Thanks, Shai On 4/3/08, shai hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RON, > > When I talking about PC I mean PC, PC is not only XP but also Linux. > > As I mention before, My product can run in Linux using a software which > enable the dot net to run i

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread shai hess
RON, When I talking about PC I mean PC, PC is not only XP but also Linux. As I mention before, My product can run in Linux using a software which enable the dot net to run in Linux. Thanks, Shai On 4/3/08, Ron Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shai, > > If you are talking medium an

Re: direct attach PC to Hitachi, EMC or IBM.

2008-04-03 Thread shai hess
RON, I need to access the data of the 3390 disk inside the box. There must be something that will enable it. The CKD is not standard in non FICON interface. I heard that there is API which enable server to access the 3390 data. Maybe a driver is needed in the PC. Can you give me more informat

Re: CA ESD files Options

2008-04-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
Shai, If you are talking medium and enterprise companies, then I disagree completely with the fact that "millions of companies" use the PC for production. Millions of companies use W2003, LINUX or the UNIXen for production, but they do not use XP and they do not run on a PC using the latest gamer'

MPF exit to start IMS stopped programs/transactions

2008-04-03 Thread Jim McAlpine
Does anyone have an MPF exit that parses a message for some variable info and then issues a command to MVS that they would be willing to share. I want to automatically start programs/transactions that have been stopped because they have been abended. There is a sample IMS exit to do this but I wo

Re: Old version of smp/e require superceded ptf

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 01:01:52 -0500, Victor Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi all, >I noticed that some version of smp/e like in os/290 2.10 or z/os 1.5, when >applying ptf, smp/e will complain that some ptf are missing, in fact those >ptfs are superceded. One method I know is to download those p

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