Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:01 -0600 on 05/21/2008, Howard Brazee wrote about Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers: Those rectangular chads could hurt someone when they get into one's eyes. They can also affect national elections if not fully detached from the punched card.

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 13:06 -0400 on 05/21/2008, Richards, Robert B. wrote about Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers: Ask the person that was the object of the joke if they thought it was funny. Hey, I like a good joke as much as the next person, but these did not hit my funny bone for some reas

Re: IPCS RUNARRAY/CBFORMAT question

2008-05-21 Thread Robert Wright
Robert Wright wrote: PROC 0 EVALSYM X CLIST(POSITION(P) LENGTH(L) HEXADECIMAL) CBFORMAT X+&P POSITION(0) LENGTH(&L.) MODEL() Of course the CLIST would work better if the CBFORMAT subcommand took into account that the length in variable L had been formatted using hexadecimal digits:

Re: IPCS RUNARRAY/CBFORMAT question

2008-05-21 Thread Robert Wright
Gord Tomlin wrote: Apparently I'm a bit thick today, but I cannot seem to get the results I want from the IPCS RUNARRAY subcommand when combined with the CBFORMAT command. I have an array of control blocks in a dump, and I want to use a format model to display each element of the array. In a

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I think some of the things on the list are conceptual jokes but not practical, >sort of like the stuff that happens to Wiley Coyote. These are funny to think >about, or see in a cartoon, but not funny if they really happened to someone. >I think the guideline for "jokes" has to be harmlessnes

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I wouldn't make DELETE or CANCEL a single keystroke command, but I feel >"D" gives me sufficient opportunity to reconsider, and I shouldn't need >to type "/" to bypass confirmation every time I enter DSLIST. There is a way in DSLIST, or ISPF EDIT. Make the single CANCEL Key (EDIT) the followin

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Roger Bolan
I think some of the things on the list are conceptual jokes but not practical, sort of like the stuff that happens to Wiley Coyote. These are funny to think about, or see in a cartoon, but not funny if they really happened to someone. I think the guideline for "jokes" has to be harmlessness.

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 May 2008 23:39:44 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >It IS NOT stupidity to customise keys! >If a user wants a SAVE or CANCEL key, and knows where it is, what is the >problem? > I envy your dexterity. OTOH, I recall bitter opposition (though not unanimous) in these pages when I expressed a w

Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:35:43 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> >> I use " (replace " at the end of the put command to overwrite >> the file. >> >When going to the "open system" servers (Windows, Linux, AIX), we never >do that. Actual

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 May 2008 15:31:16 -0400, David Andrews wrote: > >That was well over 20 years ago, back when we worked 16 hour days for >the joy of it. These days the auditors and security officers would go >berzerk; but at the time *we* were in charge of security, and EDP >auditors hadn't yet arrived o

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>There's a simple ROT here. Do NOT assign PF keys to CANCEL (or SAVE, which as >your experience demonstrates, is similarly destructive when unintended.) It's users' foolishness in so doing which impels vendors to presume to save them from their own stupidity by adding PITA confirmation dialogs

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 21 May 2008 15:43:02 -0400, Don Leahy wrote: > >The PL had PFK10 set up as CANCEL. This screwed me up because my own >userid had PFK10 set up as SAVE. After losing several rounds of >changes by hitting CANCEL when I meant SAVE, I changed the PL's PFK10 >setting to match the one I was accu

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I'm surprised at how many people missed the point of this blog post. The blogger was correct. We have lost our sense of humour. Did anybody read the disclaimer? [Update: For those of you who missed the tongue in cheek nature of this post, it is in fact, a joke. Please don’t try this at work. —

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman
- 'card chads'? Showing your age! Whish I had thought of that back when we had them! Those rectangular chads could hurt someone when they get into one's eyes. --- AMEN. Spent 6 weeks with an eyepatch because o

Phillips, Mike is out of the office.

2008-05-21 Thread Mike Phillips
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Re: plpa pages and pgser

2008-05-21 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 05/21/2008 12:06:26 AM: > Hello: xPLPA pages are eligible for page out (right?) So if a PGSER FREE is > issued (preceded by a PGSER FIX) against a xPLPA page, would it make it any > more easier for it to be paged out? > > Trying to determine the reason

Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets

2008-05-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/19/2008 at 03:02 PM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >It is supported with basic sysplex. Then why didn't you say so? >Doesn't my statement - "Basic vs. Parallel sysplex isn't the issue" >already imply that clearly enough? Obviously not. -- Shmuel

ADD Dataset to Linklst - thank-you!

2008-05-21 Thread Lucy Arnold
Thank-you everyone who answered! All the information I rec'd was MOST helpfull! Thanks again! Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction

Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> Of what value is that to an auditor? >Who knows? It is likely on some check list somewhere. Many auditors, the poor >kind, love those don't-have-to-think-about-it check lists! I disagree. Auditors do not set standards, nor do they enforce them. Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) set standard

Re: TechTarget - Mainframe Specialty Processors (zIIP zAAP)

2008-05-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tom Harper wrote: I can see Trever Eddolls point of view, that there isn't all that much out there yet. My analogy is that it's something like HDTV. You see it, you like it, you want more. But it takes time to develop, test, and implement, as writing code in Enclave SRB mode is not easy, as I'm s

xPLPA page & PGSER FREE

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Schuster
Hello: Pages of xPLPA are considered eligible for page-out (right?) So would doing a PGSER FREE on a xPLPA page (after a PGSER FIX was previously done) make this page any more subject to being stolen and paged out? Trying to resolve a problem where this PGSER FREE is being considered the culpri

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Gerhard Adam
How about an operator command we wrote as follows: $TSYS=HI $HASP000 OK $HASP999 System now in high speed Adam -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the messa

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 May 2008 12:57:59 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Fuchs) wrote: >'card chads'? > >Showing your age! > >Whish I had thought of that back when we had them! Those rectangular chads could hurt someone when they get into one's eyes.

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 May 2008 12:43:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote: >The PL had PFK10 set up as CANCEL. This screwed me up because my own >userid had PFK10 set up as SAVE. After losing several rounds of >changes by hitting CANCEL when I meant SAVE, I changed the PL's PFK10 >setting to match the

Re: IPCS error

2008-05-21 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 21 May 2008 15:02:52 -0500 Paul Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>Has anyone encountered this problem when issuing this IPCS command: :>RSMDATA VIRTPAGE RA(address) COMMON :>results in: :>System ABEND 01D, reason code 6B000B10 :>PSW 070

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman
In school, *someone* wrote a program called "FUN" that simulated the "command prompt" of the interactive system we used. FUN was a simple program that waited for some input from the user, wrote an exact replica of the message that would appear when an u

Re: ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:53:43 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: >In your PARMLIB create: > > BROWSESYS1.TEST.ZOS17.PARMLIB(PROGDM) - 01.01Line Col >001 080 > Command ===> Scroll ===> >CSR >* Top of Data

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:18:09 -0400, Richards, Robert B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I smiled when I read them, but then the adult inside me kicked in his >two cents and decided that to actually do these jokes would not be >funny. >... I very seldomly find practical jokes funny. But I could see

Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Ken Porowski
Like when the HMC throws up a red flag at zero dark thirty because the daily phone home to check on MCL's failed? Didn't IBM have a 'Service Director' that could do this? IIRC you would upload LOGREC data to it each day as well as it getting the important stuff real time and it would 'phone home

Server Pac Issues with z/OS V1.9 SB37 SYSUT1 and other stuff

2008-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
I just wanted to let everyone know of an issue I had with the Serverpac Install. First, YES - I did not read the PSP. So it is not a surprise I made a small miscalculation. In Dec 2007 there was a fix that was release for GIMUNZIP. It has to do with SB37 abends on SYSUT1 during the Unzip of

IPCS error

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Schuster
Has anyone encountered this problem when issuing this IPCS command: RSMDATA VIRTPAGE RA(address) COMMON results in: System ABEND 01D, reason code 6B000B10 PSW 070C5000 816E7FD8, module IEANUC01, CSECT IAXDS, offset 0A10 Instruction are

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Fuchs > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:58 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers > > 'card chads'? > > Showing your age! >

Re: TechTarget - Mainframe Specialty Processors (zIIP zAAP)

2008-05-21 Thread Tom Harper
Lizette, I'll need to add support for Ed's point of view...I just completed a webinar about zIIP processing this morning and we had four times as many attendees as we have ever had before (well over a hundred). The interest from customers and potential customers was intense and lots of questions w

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Jerry Fuchs
'card chads'? Showing your age! Whish I had thought of that back when we had them! Jerry Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 05/21/2008 03:53 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Practical jokes

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Tom Marchant
Ok, these are old and don't involve any modern technology. 1. Take all the drawers out of someone's desk, turn the desk upside down and re-insert the drawers so that they were right-side up in the upside down desk. The guy comes in, turns his desk back right-side up and when he opens a drawer

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Don Leahy
> (BTW creative misuse of the TSO "TERMINAL" and "PROFILE" commands was > always good for laughs if you found someone's line-mode TSO session > unguarded. Sort of like remapping someone's 3270 emulator today.) > Speaking of remapping, when I was a junior programmer I was loaned out to another proj

Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Dee Shrier
I've seen the variation where a CLIST was set up to display a message when a user would log on that his logon authority was temporarily suspended pending an investigation by the security department - great fun when you were just getting back from a nice, relaxing vacation. Also, about 20 years

Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:11:54 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Of what value is that to an auditor? >... >> Our auditors are asking us if there is any way we can receive automatic >> email alerts when the gear phones home. ... I suspect hearing about the "phone home" capabili

Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 20 May 2008 15:39:01 -0400, Dean Montevago wrote: >If it's marked shipped in SRD, click on it and there will be FTP >instructions to download it to your workstation. Do you have the rest of >the steps to upload and unwind it ? > Never having done this, I'm curious: Neither your followup

Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Dean Montevago
Chris, Thank you for extracting this for me. I have to digest this. I will be back with another post. Dean -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GE

Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 May 2008 12:21:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: >> That's not what I observed - I will try again. > >Strange. That has always worked for me. If it doesn't work, please post >the error message. I'm curious. Hmmm. What I had observed was that the FTP appeared to work, but t

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 13:16 -0400, Rob Scott wrote: > I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright spark once > wrote a program called "IJKEFT01" Dave Phillips, Tom Rusnak and I once engaged in that sort of "wheel war" about a million years ago. An example of the sort of thing we'd

Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Chris Mason
Dean If you want to know when a particular function was withdrawn, you can do worse than scanning the IBM publications pages starting here: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/ That is what I have just done on your behalf and I (re)confirmed that the AnyNet functions were removed in

Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: FTP delete > > On 21 May 2008 11:10:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, > John) wrote: > >

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Wayne Driscoll
I once worked with a guy that wrote a VTAM app that would acquire someone's terminal (easy in the "dumb" terminal days) and display a screen that would look just like the USS MSG10 screen. When the person attempted to logon, it would respond with idiotic messages, after clearing all data out of th

Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 May 2008 11:10:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: >Don't bother with the "delete". The "put" will replace it if it exists >or create it if it does not already exist. That's not what I observed - I will try again. -

Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:29:03 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >hi, > >any shop have migration plan on APPC application ? or use FTP instead of >APPC? >... We are still on 1.8 so I can't validate what I'm about to say, but from the clarifications I've heard, IBM is NOT dropping supp

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Don Leahy
> > Was "someone's" initials E. E. J. ? > Another 'someone' once wrote a clist that displayed an exact replica of the TSO logon screen that was in use at the time. The clist was named after a commonly used local function, so when the poor victim used it, he would think that he'd been booted off t

Re: USSTAB color question

2008-05-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:40:24 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Modern (emulated) 3270 devices generally tell the PLU that they can >handle extended color orders via the response to Read-Partition Query. >That tells the PLU such orders will not be rejected by the SLU. > >I do n

Re: TechTarget - Mainframe Specialty Processors (zIIP zAAP)

2008-05-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Lizette Koehler wrote: Mainframe specialty processors: Do they really save money? http://serverspecs.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/20/mainframe-specialty-processors-do-they-really-save-money/?track=NL-576&ad=641476&asrc=EM_NLN_3694452&uid=1706837 Very strange. From where I sit, it seems like

Re: ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
my preference, is to do testing with steplib/joblib first. If everything looks go, then I empty teh LNKLST'd data set, load it with the new code, then LLA Refresh or LLA UPDATE, depending. I do not like adding libraries to the Lnklst. It can add to confusion if someone else works on a problem

Re: ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Jerry Fuchs
I have used TMON to delete and add a library to the link list. As we run PDSMAN must stop PDSMAN, refresh LLA, and start PDSMAN. Jerry Daniel McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 05/21/2008 01:54 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-M

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > On Wed May 21 11:00 , Edward Jaffe sent: > > >Rob Scott wrote: > >> I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright > spark once wrote a program called "IJKEFT01" whose sole > purpose in life was to just ATTACH IKJEFT01 *unless* it was > the "target" u

Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Stitt > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: FTP delete > > I use " (replace " at the end of the put command to overwrite > the file. >

IPCS RUNARRAY/CBFORMAT question

2008-05-21 Thread Gord Tomlin
Apparently I'm a bit thick today, but I cannot seem to get the results I want from the IPCS RUNARRAY subcommand when combined with the CBFORMAT command. I have an array of control blocks in a dump, and I want to use a format model to display each element of the array. In a simple example, each

Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread Matthew Stitt
I use " (replace " at the end of the put command to overwrite the file. On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:09:48 -0500, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee >> Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Replacing a library in the LNKLSTxx is more complicated than just adding one. TMON replaces the library at the bottom of the list which may explain your 0C4s. To remove/add a library you do the following (IIRC) 1) Create a new LNKLSTxx from the currently active one 2) Using the z/OS Commands u

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Gary Green
Ah..., "someone", huh...? ;-) On Wed May 21 11:00 , Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >Rob Scott wrote: >> I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright spark once wrote >> a program called "IJKEFT01" whose sole purpose in life was to just ATTACH >> IKJEFT01 *unless* it was

Re: FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:02 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: FTP delete > > I have the following commands in my FTP: > > cd /ftp/SISR/RECREG

Re: Display or view the Crypto Current domain index or Usage domain index

2008-05-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 20 May 2008 16:45:07 -0400, Rob Schramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am guessing that it is in a control block done at IPL time at least for >z9 and below or one of the instructions that are ICSF/Crypto specific that >are not documented for the public domain. > My guess was a diagnose i

FTP delete

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
I have the following commands in my FTP: cd /ftp/SISR/RECREG delete person put 'UMSDEV.CONV.QA04.NPRSMED' person If "person" does not exist, the FTP aborts, but the new file is out there anyway. I'm running IKJEFT01 from within a standard p

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Rob Scott wrote: I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright spark once wrote a program called "IJKEFT01" whose sole purpose in life was to just ATTACH IKJEFT01 *unless* it was the "target" userid in which case it also ATTACHed an extra TCB that randomly generated strange abends

Re: ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
In your PARMLIB create: BROWSESYS1.TEST.ZOS17.PARMLIB(PROGDM) - 01.01Line Col 001 080 Command ===> Scroll ===> CSR * Top of Data * LNKLST DEFINE NAME(LNKLSTAA)

ADD library to Linklst

2008-05-21 Thread Lucy Arnold
Hello, I am upgrading EZTRIEVE and am trying to add a PDSE to LNKLST00: We went into TMON and added the new PDSE and removed the old PDS. We refreshed LLA. If jobs use a STEPLIB/JCLLIB pointing to new library(PDSE) all works well, if we let it find modules through LNKLST then jobs abend with a

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Gary Green
Now THAT is funny... On Wed May 21 13:16 , Rob Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright spark once wrote a >program called "IJKEFT01" whose sole purpose in life was to just ATTACH >IKJEFT01 *unless* it was the "target" userid in which case it

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. > > As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these > practical jokes are neither practical nor a joke. Indeed. Remapping somebody's keyboard might be harmless enough, but from there t

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
I had to ask myself it they were a potential CLM. (career limiting move) Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information & Communications Technology Crawford & Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.c

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Gary DiPillo
When I (inadvertently) deleted every copy of every *.IMAGELIB in a data center, the system programmer that had to get them restored before the next IPL was not amused. Fortunately it was one of that data centers special tools that let me do it. Gary > Ask the person that was the object of the

Re: Another Generalized Resource question

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Tell us the entire profile name and the name you're checking it against. Do you have Enhanced Generics turned on? Why are you requesting FASTAUTH? More detail is necessary. Also, have you checked this with the RACF-List folks? One com

Off-the-wall Auditor Requests (was RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-21 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > > -- > One of my favorite requests was for a vendor doing a > conversion. He wanted all the passwords for user accounts in > RACF. After being told

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:06:04 -0400 "Richards, Robert B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>Ask the person that was the object of the joke if they thought it was :>funny. Hey, I like a good joke as much as the next person, but these did :>not hit my funny bone for some reason. He should have password p

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I smiled when I read them, but then the adult inside me kicked in his two cents and decided that to actually do these jokes would not be funny. - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
Well, other than the 3270 remapping, the rest can result in severe problems and possible termination. The last, reinitializing a DBMS volume actually happened to me. Well, it was a DB2 system (not data) volume which somehow got the CA-1 TMC allocated on it. The DBA backed up the volume, made some c

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Rob Scott
I worked at a site once (many) years ago where some bright spark once wrote a program called "IJKEFT01" whose sole purpose in life was to just ATTACH IKJEFT01 *unless* it was the "target" userid in which case it also ATTACHed an extra TCB that randomly generated strange abends at random interval

Re: SMP/E question on merging DDDEF entries.

2008-05-21 Thread Richbourg, Claude
John, Thank you very much as it worked great. My nemesis grows weaker.. Regards, Claude -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMP/E quest

Re: Another Generalized Resource question

2008-05-21 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:55:11 -0500, Rick Fochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tell us the entire profile name and the name you're checking it against. >Do you have Enhanced Generics turned on? Why are you requesting >FASTAUTH? More detail is necessary. Also, have you checked this with the >RACF-Li

TechTarget - Mainframe Specialty Processors (zIIP zAAP)

2008-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Mainframe specialty processors: Do they really save money? http://serverspecs.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/20/mainframe-specialty-processors-do-they-really-save-money/?track=NL-576&ad=641476&asrc=EM_NLN_3694452&uid=1706837 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/5epy38 was a little more interesting than

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Ask the person that was the object of the joke if they thought it was funny. Hey, I like a good joke as much as the next person, but these did not hit my funny bone for some reason. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zeld

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Richards, Robert B. wrote: As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these practical jokes are neither practical nor a joke. Jokes or not, I was ROTFLMAO! And, based on the first comment posted, I guess that means I should be locked up! :-D -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software In

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 21 May 2008 12:50:42 -0400, Richards, Robert B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these practical >jokes are neither practical nor a joke. > What, you don't see the humor in trying to delete SYS1.LINKLIB (don't worry, the ENQ will protect you

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
As someone already commented on Tech Target website, these practical jokes are neither practical nor a joke. Bob - Robert B. Richards US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washin

FW: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-21 Thread Howard Brazee
-Original Message- From: Enterprise Systems Update [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:19 AM To: Subject: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers SearchDataCenter.com: Enterprise Systems

Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/21/2008 10:13:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: followup mentions RECEIVE ORDER / RECEIVE FROMNETWORK. Wouldn't that be the technique with the fewest steps to receive maintenance electronically from IBM? >> Probably, but that wasn't the questio

Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
I do like the idea of the alert when there is a failure. Our carbon based life form interactive units tend to miss these things and call when it's too late. Case in point - POR and IPL this past weekend. Operator IPL'd three times, and who knows why, before calling for help at 4:30 AM. I also u

Re: plpa pages and pgser

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman
Hello: xPLPA pages are eligible for page out (right?) So if a PGSER FREE is issued (preceded by a PGSER FIX) against a xPLPA page, would it make it any more easier for it to be paged out? Trying to determine the reason for a problem whic

Stupid requests (was:RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:11 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Hardware Alerts > > -- > One of my favor

Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- One of my favorite requests was for a vendor doing a conversion. He wanted all the passwords for user accounts in RACF. After being told three times that it was encrypted and not obtainable he went away muttering. --

Re: DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP

2008-05-21 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) writes: > The key is "on other systems". iSCSI is not supported on z/OS. > So, on z/OS it is still impossible. However - in general - it is

Re: Bad Auditor Requests (Was Re: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-21 Thread Thomas Kern
Our instructions were to give them EXACTLY what they ask for or nothing. If he had asked in a more general way for a listing of user definitions, I would have prepared a sanitized USER DIRECT, but he was explicit and insistent on getting /etc/passwd. That was what was on his unix checklist. /Tom K

Re: Another Generalized Resource question

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- I would like to be able to add profiles to the Facility class within racf such that the profile will be made up of three qualifiers. The 1st two qualifiers will always be the same, and the 3rd will change. I have created a profile that con

Re: Bad Auditor Requests (Was Re: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:52 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Bad Auditor Requests (Was Re: Hardware Alerts) > > My favorite was an auditor that wanted a printo

Bad Auditor Requests (Was Re: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-21 Thread Thomas Kern
My favorite was an auditor that wanted a printout of our /etc/passwd. This was a VM/SP system. When we stopped laughing at him and told him we didn't have such security holes, he went away. /Tom Kern On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:32:27 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >One of my fav

Re: FDRABR ARCHIVE

2008-05-21 Thread Gibney, Dave
I read about FDRSEL and expect to use it. The main shortcoming compared with HSM is not direct interface with tape management. Looks like I'll need to parse the output and generate TMSUPDTE statements. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Dean Montevago
Please clarify: "This presupposes that, since - tragically - the AnyNet Sockets over SNA component was withdrawn a couple of releases ago, the transport available between the AFTP client and AFTP server simultaneously needs to be converted from SNA to IP, a rather more challenging conversion I

Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-21 Thread Chris Mason
John I imagine the OP must have the Communications Server SNA component (aka VTAM) APPC Application Suite in mind. Sometimes the list habit of condensing thoughts into one or two words can go too far! Chris Mason -- For IBM-MA

Re: SMP/E question on merging DDDEF entries.

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richbourg, Claude > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:27 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: SMP/E question on merging DDDEF entries. > > Good morning all, > > The system is z/OS 1.9 a

Re: TCPIP CONVERT GATEWAY STMT and ADD OSA

2008-05-21 Thread Melissa Perry
thanks, I'm going crazy..this should not be this hard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bam

SMP/E question on merging DDDEF entries.

2008-05-21 Thread Richbourg, Claude
Good morning all, The system is z/OS 1.9 and my old nemesis SMP/E. I am trying to build a new TARGET zone. What I want to do is copy ALL the DDDEF information from one TARGET zone to another new TARGET zone. At this point all I want is the DDDEF information, including the volser. I have tried thi

Re: Hardware Alerts

2008-05-21 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:15 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Hardware Alerts > > This is an internal auditor and high availability is a high > priority to

Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Dean Montevago
Isn't a prereq a prereq and required not matter what ? To order a few fixes I like the SRD approach, I haven't had any problems with it. Yes, I did have to go back and order additional fixes that were missing but it really doesn't bother me. We upload our CSI's preiodically so when we order mainte

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