Re: Reporting on CPU usage of LINUX and other special processors

2010-12-16 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote: I do not recall seeing this discussed before (possibly I missed it) but I have been asked by a client that is interested in getting one of the new processors about how to track and report usage of all the different type of

Strange CPUTIME values

2010-12-16 Thread Beesley, Paul
Good morning list. Apologies for the long post ... We have a strange problem on one LPAR since the last IPL in the early hours of Monday morning, whereby the CPU time used by jobs ( as displayed on the SDSF DA panel, and in the IEFACTRT reports ) is a fraction of what it should be. CICS regions

Re: Strange CPUTIME values

2010-12-16 Thread Rob Scott
The SDSF DA display and the IEFACTRT output could be simple bugs in the code -I would be very tempted to dump out the SMF Type30 records for the jobs in question and take a close look at them. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel:

Re: DFSMS/DASD: Control SG occupancy

2010-12-16 Thread Gonzalo Cengotita
Hello, You can find an example of using ISMF in batch here: http://www.servframe.com/jcl-samples/ There is an example called Generate an ISMF storage group list in batch This list have a field with the % free value that you can read with a REXX and compare with the values you consider

Re: REXX Question

2010-12-16 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
As long as you are on z/OS 1.12 you have direct access to the SYSLOG. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: REXX Question Which one?

Re: IBM's Supercomputer Watson to be featured on Jeopardy! soon

2010-12-16 Thread zMan
See http://www.research.ibm.com/deepqa/ and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC3IryWr4c8feature=player_embedded#! -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread McKown, John
If you have a Parallel Sysplex (you have a Coupling Facility), you might want to consider using a new CICS facility called named counter. It would require no special coding on your part at all. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DFHP4B06/1.50 -- John McKown Systems

XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Steve Comstock
When I package support files for course labs, I have for many years used XMIT, then download as binary to my workstation. Over the years Xmit manager has been a valuable tool to examine such files. Today I wanted to look at member in a PDS in XMIT format and Xmit manager gives these messages:

Re: XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Ford
Yep, I had a problem also in Windows 7 ( 64bit) , fixed it by placing the executables in my C:Program files(x86) folder, works fine now   Scott J Ford   From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 8:36:36

Re: Moving tape files keeping original information

2010-12-16 Thread Staller, Allan
Using *ONLY* IBM standard facilites, the only way to do this would be with a specifically developed application program to: 1) Copy/stack the tape and retain the original expdt, 2) Generate the relevant update job for TLMS to preserve/restore the original information. HTH,

Re: XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Field, Alan C.
Was the original file a PDS or a PDSE? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 07:37 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: XMIT manager problem When I package support files for course

Re: XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Steve Comstock
On 12/16/2010 7:31 AM, Field, Alan C. wrote: Was the original file a PDS or a PDSE? Gotcha'. But it's a PDS. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 07:37 To:

Re: Strange CPUTIME values

2010-12-16 Thread Doug Henry
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:40:57 +, Beesley, Paul paul.bees...@atosorigin.com wrote: Good morning list. Apologies for the long post ... We have a strange problem on one LPAR since the last IPL in the early hours of Monday morning, whereby the CPU time used by jobs ( as displayed on the SDSF DA

Re: XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Steve Comstock
On 12/16/2010 6:48 AM, Scott Ford wrote: Yep, I had a problem also in Windows 7 ( 64bit) , fixed it by placing the executables in my C:Program files(x86) folder, works fine now Scott J Ford Thanks. But I'm running WinXP and have been using xmit manager under this for several years; and other

Re: Darren's approval

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca3430880b...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com, on 12/15/2010 at 10:16 PM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com said: Perhaps Shmuel was punning? I never pun[1]. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. [1] Especially in comments -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 004701cb9cc2$a3eedd40$ebcc97...@rr.com, on 12/15/2010 at 08:43 PM, Dan Blake dansinthecaroli...@sc.rr.com said: We are getting ready to install SAS base, Graph, ETS, FSP and ACCESS. Anyone experience issues with the installation? Yes. They've completely redone things, in a manner that

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4d09155b.10...@queensu.ca, on 12/15/2010 at 02:22 PM, Lorne Dudley dudl...@queensu.ca said: The book says the key of the storage area that the running program tries to access is different from that of the running program. That was true in OS/360. It hasn't been true[1] in decades.

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktikbdauyvc-uvzq7xqwb2mdwg4utrurxh_y5w...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/15/2010 at 11:33 AM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net said: R2 is set incorrectly. What gives you that idea? Look at the definition of CVTPTR. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktinqf4i2y16bc0rwq+q+wgv04oeufo1wbl8q9...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/15/2010 at 12:58 PM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net said: Tom, I'm confused about your comment above. FLCCVT is a DS and CVTPTR is an EQU; the only difference between them is how you establish addressability. They both refer

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4d093be1.9010...@neo.tamu.edu, on 12/15/2010 at 04:06 PM, Richard L Peurifoy r-peuri...@neo.tamu.edu said: I am curious about this. Do some vendors try to use this field? They did, and some Dude named Dante wrote a comedy about them. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In p06240801c92f3e609...@[192.168.1.11], on 12/15/2010 at 10:59 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com said: OTOH: TCBUSER is still a viable anchor point for within the address space linkage The same issue exists; it's viable *for the customer* to use it; it's not viable for 3rd-party

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In f255efe0ecf08c4a9c1db6aff423541712ae5...@ch2wpmail1.na.ds.ussco.com, on 12/15/2010 at 02:10 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said: Hmmm Returns to caller in sup state and key 0 Sort of like a magic SVC? Not really. If an unprivileged caller invokes his code, look for a message

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d5e05...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 12/15/2010 at 02:13 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: hardware feature. Not quite. The architecture has to support it, but the software still has to request it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4d09210f.7090...@comcast.net, on 12/15/2010 at 02:11 PM, Ray Overby rayove...@comcast.net said: Is low address protection a hardware or software feature? Yes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktikca3qojg_hprbvpcsle0gggwcdffefpzon9...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/15/2010 at 03:22 PM, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com said: Ok. Don't do it. It is basically a bad idea. While that field was originally intended for user (i.e. customer) use, in practice it is unusable. It's perfectly

Re: Strange CPUTIME values [Solved]

2010-12-16 Thread Beesley, Paul
Doug Many thanks. CA have also replied to me directly and I am applying 4 hipers for 11.8 My money was on Sysview ... although strangely it seems that SYSVIEW's DA display shows the correct CPU time, obviously more Ops-MVS aware than SDSF and MXI. Regards Paul -Original Message- From:

Re: XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Ford
There was a problem with Windows 7.. Is this an issue on the MF or PCit you go into XMITMGR can you view the PDS members, if not its not a PDS or the XMIT was wrong   Scott J Ford   From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:14:34 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Yes. They've completely redone things, in a manner that makes life harder than it need to be. Everything is Unix based, and their deployment manager is web[1] based. If you want to order electronic delivery, involve your network

Re: XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Ford
Yeah,, it could be PDSE like Alan just mentioned in his Steve: Yeah,, it could be PDSE like Alan just mentioned in his email. We package distros to customers without any issue with XMIT or XMITMGR   Scott J Ford   From: Field, Alan C.

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Is low address protection a hardware or software feature? Yes. For what? Hardware, Software or both? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Question about WebSphere Application Server

2010-12-16 Thread Matthew Stitt
FWIW, I have 4 SBBO* and 11 ABBO* datasets for WebSphere V7R0 On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 15:56:16 -0800, Daniel Allen dal...@serena.com wrote: T24gb3VyIHovT1MgMS4xMSBzeXN0ZW0sIHdlIGhhdmUgZmlmdGVlbiAoMTUpIEJCTy5TQkJPKiBk YXRhc2V0cyBvbiB0aGUgcmVzIHBhY2sgYW5kIGVpZ2h0ZWVuICgxOCkgQkJPLkFCQk8qIGRhdGFz

Re: XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 07:29:34 -0800, Scott Ford wrote: Yeah,, it could be PDSE like Alan just mentioned in his email. We package distros to customers without any issue with XMIT or XMITMGR   Is XMITMGR an essential component of your deployment. This would mean that Windows is a prerequisite

Re: Question about WebSphere Application Server

2010-12-16 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Ditto here with V7 on z/OS 1.12 Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew Stitt Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Question about WebSphere Application Server FWIW, I have

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Bill Fairchild
Both. The hardware part of it is described in the Principles of Operation. A control register bit, if on, enables LAP. The software part of it is that at NIP the operating system (z/OS) turns the bit on. When LAP is enabled, any attempt by the running program to store into virtual addresses

Re: XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Steve Comstock
On 12/16/2010 8:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 07:29:34 -0800, Scott Ford wrote: Yeah,, it could be PDSE like Alan just mentioned in his email. We package distros to customers without any issue with XMIT or XMITMGR Is XMITMGR an essential component of your deployment. This

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Paul Peplinski
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:43:28 -0500, Dan Blake dansinthecaroli...@sc.rr.com wrote: We are getting ready to install SAS base, Graph, ETS, FSP and ACCESS. Anyone experience issues with the installation? How long on average did it take? The Project plan needs updating. I installed 9.2, both

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Bill Fairchild wrote: Both. The hardware part of it is described in the Principles of Operation. A control register bit, if on, enables LAP. The software part of it is that at NIP the operating system (z/OS) turns the bit on. When LAP is enabled, any attempt by the running program to store

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 12/16/2010 8:00 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote: When LAP is enabled, any attempt by the running program to store into virtual addresses 0-511 of page 0 on a CPU is prevented. And I'll wager there's not a serious developer working today whose system has not been saved at least once by this

PROBLEMS DELETING MULTI VOLUME VSAM DSN

2010-12-16 Thread John Dawes
G'day,   I am trying to delete a multi-volume VSAM dataset.  I receive the following error:   DATA SET CICSPROD.CICS.UBSP.DFHTEMP.OLD NOT ALLOCATED, VOLUME NOT AVAILABLE VOLUME NECESSARY TO SATISFY YOUR REQUEST NOT ON SYSTEM, AND CANNOT BE MOUNTED ** ENTRY CICSPROD.CICS.UBSP.DFHTEMP.OLD NOT

Re: PROBLEMS DELETING MULTI VOLUME VSAM DSN

2010-12-16 Thread Mueller, David
It should be possible to do volume-targeted DELETE VVR commands for the remaining data / index components and DELETE VSAM NOSCRATCH for the catalog entry. David Mueller | Systems Programmer SSRC (Southwood Shared Resource Center) 4070 Esplanade Way, Room 360D  Phone: 850-414-9134 || Fax:

Re: Fw: ASG/Mobius

2010-12-16 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:46:23 -0600, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 07:46:32 -0600, Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com wrote: 2. I also gather a Started tasks can be setup to do the sweeps instead of Batch process.(or together) and the Started Task is governed by

Re: PROBLEMS DELETING MULTI VOLUME VSAM DSN

2010-12-16 Thread Staller, Allan
1) DELETE 'CICSPROD.CICS.UBSP.DFHTEMP.OLD' NSCR 2) LISTC ENT('CICSPROD.CICS.UBSP.DFHTEMP.OLD' VOLUME 2) For each possible volume run a VTOC list. DELETE ' CICSPROD.CICS.UBSP.DFHTEMP.OLD.' VVR FILE(DD1) for each component of the cluster listed. DD1 should point to the volume

Re: PROBLEMS DELETING MULTI VOLUME VSAM DSN

2010-12-16 Thread John Dawes
Wouldn't that cause a problem because the DATA and INDEX portions will still remain on the third volume?  The CLUSTER, DATA INDEX components are still allocated on the third volume.     --- On Fri, 17/12/10, Mueller, David david.muel...@ssrc.myflorida.com wrote: From: Mueller, David

Re: PROBLEMS DELETING MULTI VOLUME VSAM DSN

2010-12-16 Thread Mueller, David
I am assuming that you are wanting to get rid of everything that is still on the volumes. That is what the volume-targeted DEL VVR commands would do. Allen Staller has already given a more-detailed response. David Mueller | Systems Programmer SSRC (Southwood Shared Resource Center) 4070

Replays for this week's webcasts - Linux on System z, z/VSE

2010-12-16 Thread Pamela Christina in sunny and bright Endicott
Cross posted to my favorite Listserv's - VM, Main, and Linux :-) Hi, Just letting you know that the replays for the two webcasts (live virtual classes - lvc's) that were held this week are available for your listening pleasure. - What's new in RHEL 6 for Linux on System z - IBM z/VSE V4.3 -

Re: PROBLEMS DELETING MULTI VOLUME VSAM DSN

2010-12-16 Thread John Dawes
Yes, that is my intention.  I will heed your and Alan's advice.   Thanks for the help.  --- On Fri, 17/12/10, Mueller, David david.muel...@ssrc.myflorida.com wrote: From: Mueller, David david.muel...@ssrc.myflorida.com Subject: Re: PROBLEMS DELETING MULTI VOLUME VSAM DSN To:

Re: Fw: ASG/Mobius

2010-12-16 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:38:52 -0600, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote: ##OPTIONS 01 NYYY = this is the switch Art, What column is that last 'Y' in? I tried cutting and pasting it and it looks to me like it's cc49. If thats the case, that is a

Re: Batch program to update CVTUSER

2010-12-16 Thread Bill Fairchild
IBM introduced the Low Address Protection feature in the early 1980s shortly before they announced S/370/XA. It was first supported on S/370. They even published a very short book describing this new feature and 3 or 4 other features that were being introduced at the same time. The only

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:43:28 -0500, Dan Blake dansinthecaroli...@sc.rr.com wrote: We are getting ready to install SAS base, Graph, ETS, FSP and ACCESS. Anyone experience issues with the installation? How long on average did it take? Funny you should ask. I've been working on 9.2 TS2M3 for

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:01:26 -0600, Arthur Gutowski wrote: The support rep I worked with was indeed very helpful, especially given the fact that the process is a complete kludge for the z/OS environment. In their infinite wisdom, SAS is trying what so many other ISV's are - a one-size-fits- all

Re: Darren's approval

2010-12-16 Thread Bob Woodside
On Thursday 16 December 2010 07:52, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca3430880b...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.c om, on 12/15/2010 at 10:16 PM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com said: Perhaps Shmuel was punning? I never pun[1]. That's my story and I'm sticking

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Guy Gardoit
Same kludge here. We have a goal of eliminating SAS on ALL platforms due not only to cost, but also because no one has a clue at SAS Institute of how to package a product. On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:01:26 -0600, Arthur

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Paul Strauss
Any hints as to a replacement? Thank You, Paul Strauss Integrated Technology Delivery, Global Services, IBM L0DB z/OS MVS/Program Products/Security 150 Kettletown Rd. Southbury, CT 06488 (203) 272-2758 strau...@us.ibm.com

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Any hints as to a replacement? WPS. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Lizette Koehler
Any hints as to a replacement? Thank You, Paul Strauss I depends on what you need. WPS claims they can replace your SAS applications without having you recode your SAS Code. You can look at products like SPSS (Now owned by IBM) or MINITAB Or depending on you statistical needs, there might

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:09:36 -0800, Guy Gardoit wrote: Same kludge here. We have a goal of eliminating SAS on ALL platforms due not only to cost, but also because no one has a clue at SAS Institute of how to package a product. Where's the preponderance of SAS's business? I must conclude, not

Re: SAS installation questions

2010-12-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
WPS claims they can replace your SAS applications without having you recode your SAS Code. Actually, not having used it myself, WPS has improved over the years. I believe Dr. Merrill even supports it under MXG, but don't take my word for it. I think there's a statement on his website regarding

out of the office: Syed HAMDANI/HBEU/HSBC is out of the office.

2010-12-16 Thread Syed Hamdani
I will be out of the office starting 17 Dec 2010 and will not return until 22 Dec 2010. If it is urgent please contact Les Kenny on 76863572 otherwise I will respond to your message when I return. - SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! This E-mail is

Why not STORAGE OBTAIN LOC=(31,64)?

2010-12-16 Thread Charles Mills
What are the reasons, if any, that one would NOT specify 64-bit backing storage on a STORAGE OBTAIN? Not specify LOC=(whatever,64)? Are there any circumstances other than a program that explicitly dealt with real addresses that would make backing storage above the bar likely to be problematic? I

Re: Why not STORAGE OBTAIN LOC=(31,64)?

2010-12-16 Thread Jim Mulder
What are the reasons, if any, that one would NOT specify 64-bit backing storage on a STORAGE OBTAIN? Not specify LOC=(whatever,64)? Are there any circumstances other than a program that explicitly dealt with real addresses that would make backing storage above the bar likely to be

Re: ftp'ing SYSOUT - binary data?

2010-12-16 Thread Brian Westerman
Sounds like what I designed SyzSPOOL/z to do, except that I added web access and email support. The data ends up in manageable datasets that are auto-magically managed/archived for a user specified amount of time, being fully compressed and most importantly, out of JES's hands. Brian

Re: XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Bill Godfrey
Has the directory size of your PDS ever been increased using some non- standard directory-expanding program? If so, and that program did not write an EOF at the end of the directory, or allowed its new EOF to be subsequently overwritten, I wonder if that would cause an error like this. I think

Re: XMIT manager problem

2010-12-16 Thread Steve Comstock
On 12/16/2010 8:21 PM, Bill Godfrey wrote: Has the directory size of your PDS ever been increased using some non- standard directory-expanding program? If so, and that program did not write an EOF at the end of the directory, or allowed its new EOF to be subsequently overwritten, I wonder if

Re: Why not STORAGE OBTAIN LOC=(31,64)?

2010-12-16 Thread Charles Mills
So would a person not be better off -- well, would not the MVS system be better off -- have more options -- by specifying LOC=(31,64)? Why is it not the default? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Mulder Sent:

Re: Why not STORAGE OBTAIN LOC=(31,64)?

2010-12-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 12/16/2010 9:34 PM, Charles Mills wrote: So would a person not be better off -- well, would not the MVS system be better off -- have more options -- by specifying LOC=(31,64)? Why is it not the default? LOC=(,64) can't be the default because it would break some existing production