Re: maxsystem in a sysplex - belated heads-up

2011-10-18 Thread Barbara Nitz
>I have two sysplexes with one or two members not currently running. None >show up with D XCF,S,ALL . What I see is lots of detail about the one >member that is running. Nothing about the others. Skip, thanks for testing that for me. Just as I figured - there isn't really an easy way to find out

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Dave, Yes, thanks for the catch on the SMS vol.  Esmie did say that the vol was managed. And I agree.  I allocate my own generously sized VVDS at the time I init the pack - with a generously sized VTOC and index too.  :)   The VVDS needs to  be removed before re-initing the pack. Otherw

Re: ATTLS configuration

2011-10-18 Thread Scott Ford
Neale,   A couple things here, does NAMED exist ?  secondly does SECLABEL exist..   Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: Neale Ferguson To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:37 PM Subject: ATTLS configuration

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Ed Gould
Allan I sort of agree but I would never ever use process sys1 unless I would knowingly have specific datasets in mind. In the past it's been burned into the process to know exactly what is going to happen. If memory serves me there is a parm on DFDSS to show what it's going to do. I use that t

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Gibney, Dave
If it's SMS, the VVDS has data for non-VSAM also. I agree with you. Stop new allocations (DISNEW), Carefully move everything (make take several passes), when it's empty, re-init it and allocate a sufficiently large VVDS on it. I still always allocate a VVDS right after I init a new volume. I

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Esmie, If you take the all of the VSAM datasets off of the volume, you can delete the VVDS (I can send you the IDCAMS if you want) and allocate a new, bigger one on the same volume.  Personally, I would not zap a VVDS.  I know that some probably would, but not me , I wouldn't.  I woul

Re: Chaos feared after UNIX time-zone database is nuked

2011-10-18 Thread Ed Gould
John, I agree but it's not so cut and dried. When you live and work in two different time zones. Chicago and Indiana (parts) are in two different zones. Friends of mine get their signals mixed at times. They have taken to always specify the local time which works well except the first week or

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Gibney, Dave
Good point, thank you. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Staller, Allan > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:03 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Sub

ATTLS configuration

2011-10-18 Thread Neale Ferguson
I¹m attempting to enable ATTLS on my z/OS 1.12 and 1.9 systems for the purpose of running secured NJE. I have installed the z/OS Configuration Assistant to create the appropriate policies, created certificates on both systems and placed them into the appropriate rings, and added the TCPCONFIG TTLS

Re: Help with Tape Hardware Issue TS3500

2011-10-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks everyone. We looked high and low in the ATL. Nothing in the gripper, floor, bin, misplaced in the slots. We checked every tape in the ATL Frame (fortunately we are small @800 tapes). So I will have to keep pressing on and seeing if maybe the hardware support vendor put it somewhere w

Re: z/OS SYSLOG observation / thought

2011-10-18 Thread Scott Ford
John:   I think, if my old cobwebby gray matter serves me here, we did that with the Message automation table in Netview.. Each message was tagged , so we knew who issued it. But they also came through the NetVSSI, which might have tagged them prior to hand off to the message table. BTW also on

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Staller, Allan
Do not use process(SYS1) w/o excluding the VVDS and the VTOCIX (Check the syntax, Done from memory). COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(**) EXCLUDE(SYS1.VTOCIX.VPROD06, SYS1.VVDS.PROD06) - ) - INDY( -

Re: Help with Tape Hardware Issue TS3500

2011-10-18 Thread Ed Finnell
Drive, output bin, floor? In a message dated 10/18/2011 3:02:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, stars...@mindspring.com writes: And the only thing I know the vendor did was run an inventory and bring the A0B drive back online. ---

Re: Help with Tape Hardware Issue TS3500

2011-10-18 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Lizette, We used to have a 3494 ATL.  We had it for over 10 years.  A couple of times, we had a tape go missing with last status of being in the gripper.  Both times, we found the tape on the floor of the ATL, once bumped underneath the edge of one of the drives in the ATL and once one th

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Gibney, Dave
With PROG06 in DSNEW status, run: //ADRDSSU EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=5M, // TIME=1439 ,PARM='TYPRUN=SCAN' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(**)) - INDY( -

Help with Tape Hardware Issue TS3500

2011-10-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
I had a hardware failure of some kind on Oct 15. Today I am missing the tape that was indicated in the messages. I looked at the ATL through the web interface and it says it is in the gripper(acc1,g1) ISMF shows the tape as VOLUME MISPLACED. Earlier it had VOLUME UNAVAILABLE. CA-1 shows SCR

Re: DS6800 and PAV question

2011-10-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Correct. And the definitions on the device are static. Once WLM starts re-assigning the PAVs to new UCBs, it is called Dynamic, or if re-assigned with each I/O, Hyper-PAVs. If you need to change I/O addresses, you can change the I/O gen to use new addresses and IPL to use the new addresses. On

Re: DS6800 and PAV question

2011-10-18 Thread Mike Myers
Mike: Thanks, and that has no affect on the previously defined volume contents? Sounds like it just adds the alias addresses to the LCU definition, but no physical disk data needs to be changed, right? Mike On 10/18/2011 03:35 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: If you have unused / usassigned addresses

Re: z/OS SYSLOG observation / thought

2011-10-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 October 2011 13:29, McKown, John wrote: > Columns 41 through 48 in the z/OS SYSLOG (formatted with a 4 digit year in > columns 21-27) have various information in them. For many messages, it is the > JES assigned number such as JOB12345. For a commands and command responses it > appears to

Re: DS6800 and PAV question

2011-10-18 Thread Mike Schwab
If you have unused / usassigned addresses on each LCU, you can add PAVs to the end and dynamicly update your I/O gen to use them. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Mike Myers wrote: > Radoslaw: > > Thanks. My greater concern is loss of data. This system is very new and not > into production yet, s

Re: DS6800 and PAV question

2011-10-18 Thread Mike Myers
Radoslaw: Thanks. My greater concern is loss of data. This system is very new and not into production yet, so an IPL would be minimally "disruptive" for a while (until after the operating system was installed and configured. Since we are installing the operating system later this week, if it

Re: expirebv for abars, and deleting the resulting uncataloged tape datasets

2011-10-18 Thread Pinnacle
On 10/18/2011 2:29 PM, Mike B wrote: On Oct 18, 11:12 am, pinnc...@rochester.rr.com (Pinnacle) wrote: On 10/18/2011 11:41 AM, Mike B wrote: Hi, We wish to clean up unwanted abars tape datasets using expirebv and retainversions(n) Listing a test abars group, we know that the oldest version

Re: DS6800 and PAV question

2011-10-18 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-10-18 20:00, Mike Myers pisze: Does anyone know if adding PAV (alias) addresses to a configured DS6800 is disruptive of any real devices already configured and initialized on the affected LCU? IMHO yes. Usually you have 256 devices per CU. Base and aliases. So, adding aliases means

DS6800 and PAV question

2011-10-18 Thread Mike Myers
Does anyone know if adding PAV (alias) addresses to a configured DS6800 is disruptive of any real devices already configured and initialized on the affected LCU? I seem to recall that with the older sharks (such as ESS 800 or F20 models) that this may have been the case. I seem to recall the

Re: PDSE configuration concerns

2011-10-18 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Ralph, PDSESHARING (EXTENDED) since April 2004 and nothing but good has come of it. PDSE has been very good for us solving performance problems and reducing data management of PDS(s) in our source change management system. Thanks, Sam -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussi

Re: DS8800 ESQA bytes

2011-10-18 Thread R.S.
My €0.02: WHO CARES? I'm serious. Some thoughts: 1. IMHO UCB size for D8800 is quite the same in size as for good old (real) 3390 connected to 3990 CU. I believe, that UCB size is same for EMC, HDS, IBM, whatever. 2. UCB size is no big problem, since UCBs can reside above 16MB. We don't have s

z/OS SYSLOG observation / thought

2011-10-18 Thread McKown, John
Columns 41 through 48 in the z/OS SYSLOG (formatted with a 4 digit year in columns 21-27) have various information in them. For many messages, it is the JES assigned number such as JOB12345. For a commands and command responses it appears to the be console name or for a MLWTO response the "conti

Re: DS8800 ESQA bytes

2011-10-18 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:35:04 -0500, J Ellis wrote: >we have arrived at several different answers for this (what I think) is a >relatively simple question. More opinions/facts are invited--- > >for the DS8800, how many bytes in ESQA does each 3390B & 3390A take Good question. I wonder if it i

Re: BMC CMF vs. IBM RMF

2011-10-18 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Well, that was a bad day. That's a masterpiece of understatement! :-) -

DS8800 ESQA bytes

2011-10-18 Thread J Ellis
we have arrived at several different answers for this (what I think) is a relatively simple question. More opinions/facts are invited--- for the DS8800, how many bytes in ESQA does each 3390B & 3390A take -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

Re: Time Zone Database Has New Home After Lawsuit

2011-10-18 Thread McKown, John
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Chaos feared after UNIX time-zone database is nuked

2011-10-18 Thread John Gilmore
In response to my query Shmuel wrote: | There is a simple way; a raw time value refers to the current day. It | is not, of course, suitable for use in files that must be read on a | different day, but it is perfectly appropriate for use in human | interfaces. You know this. I do indeed know i

Re: expirebv for abars, and deleting the resulting uncataloged tape datasets

2011-10-18 Thread Pinnacle
On 10/18/2011 11:41 AM, Mike B wrote: Hi, We wish to clean up unwanted abars tape datasets using expirebv and retainversions(n) Listing a test abars group, we know that the oldest version of an agg- group had two datasets and two volsers involved. Running EXPIREBV ABARSVERSIONS AGNAME(ABENDAID)

Re: SYSTEM ABEND CODE 0F8 REASON CODE 00000014 under TESTAUTH

2011-10-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <012501cc8d4e$0f098770$2d1c9650$@net>, on 10/18/2011 at 12:26 AM, Micheal Butz said: >SRB was the only way to go, Why wouldn't an IRB work? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't h

Re: SYSTEM ABEND CODE 0F8 REASON CODE 00000014 under TESTAUTH

2011-10-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <011b01cc8d43$10639a30$312ace90$@net>, on 10/17/2011 at 11:07 PM, Micheal Butz said: >I normally get 0F8 when I am in XMEM mode and issue a SVC I didn't >abended on a SVC I abended whitin STM of the SETFRR inst No. You got the ABEND on the breakpoint that TESTAUTH inserted in place of th

Re: Time Zone Database Has New Home After Lawsuit

2011-10-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/18/2011 at 07:05 AM, "McKown, John" said: >OK, people we can relax! What stops them from going after ICANN next? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're

Re: SYSTEM ABEND CODE 0F8 REASON CODE 00000014 under TESTAUTH

2011-10-18 Thread Chris Craddock
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Micheal Butz wrote: > Is all that's required for setting a recovery routine for the SRB is > setting > a address in SRBFRRA ? > > At the risk of sending you off on another tangent, "yes". But, what would you *DO* with

Re: Chaos feared after UNIX time-zone database is nuked.

2011-10-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/17/2011 at 09:01 PM, John Gilmore said: >I am puzzled by this distinction. In general there is no way to >convert a time value in a date-independent way; There is a simple way; a raw time value refers to the current day. It is not, of course, suitable for use in files that must be

Re: SRBEPA

2011-10-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <00e701cc8d19$4d6f9980$e84ecc80$@net>, on 10/17/2011 at 06:08 PM, Micheal Butz said: >Page fault that means it does't have to be fixed unless I just don't >get it Did you see Jim Mulder's message, ? In brief, the SRB has to be fixed but the code does not, unless it will be running disabled

Re: maxsystem in a sysplex - belated heads-up

2011-10-18 Thread Skip Robinson
I have two sysplexes with one or two members not currently running. None show up with D XCF,S,ALL . What I see is lots of detail about the one member that is running. Nothing about the others. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Pro

Re: SYSTEM ABEND CODE 0F8 REASON CODE 00000014 under TESTAUTH

2011-10-18 Thread Micheal Butz
Is all that's required for setting a recovery routine for the SRB is setting a address in SRBFRRA ? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Harper Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SY

Re: Looking for clues on a bug in assembler

2011-10-18 Thread Charles Mills
To anyone who thinks I am off-base on this, I'll meet you half way. If anyone really believes that this problem could and should be reported to IBM productively, send me a note off-line (charlesm at mcn dot org) and I will take my existing code (1000+ lines, five entry points, a whole lot of surrou

Re: Thanks for all the PMR's

2011-10-18 Thread Greg Shirey
John, I'm confused, you sent the following -- what? Thanks, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Mattson Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:15 PM I sent the following to my IBM PMR handler (DFSMSrmm) and though

Re: SYSTEM ABEND CODE 0F8 REASON CODE 00000014 under TESTAUTH

2011-10-18 Thread Tom Harper
Michael, It sounds like you are issuing the SETFRR under your TCB which is going to SCHEDULE your SRB. This is not necessary and will almost certainly cause you problems, such as the 0F8 abend, and this FRR will not protect your SRB. FRR's can be used to establish a recovery environment for a T

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Staller, Allan
Use DF/DSS logical dump. This will find all of the pieces and restore them E.G. DUMP DS include( dsn's ) - Other parameters RESTORE DS include(**) - Replace recatalog delete - Other parameters HTH, My question is there a utility available to tell me which

Re: Assember Newsgroup ( Was SYSTEM ABEND CODE 0F8 REASON CODE 00000014 under TESTAUTH)

2011-10-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
> > > > Lizette > > But, at times, the people over on ASSEMBLER-LIST will refer people back here for > system-specific problems. Something about ASSEMBLER-LIST being for problems and > questions about the assembler itself, not about assembler coding to a system API > function for a specific enviro

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
IEHLIST LIST VTOC should be able to identify any datasets that are multi-volume. Mark Jacobs On 10/18/11 07:56, esmie moo wrote: Lizette, I did contact IBM and they suggested to apply and OEM zap. Since the client insists on keeping the same volsers I have no choice but to backup/delete&

Time Zone Database Has New Home After Lawsuit

2011-10-18 Thread McKown, John
OK, people we can relax! http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/time-zone-database-home-lawsuit-14748312 The organization in charge of the Internet's address system is taking over a database widely used by computers and websites to keep track of time zones around the world. The transition

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,   I did contact IBM and they suggested to apply and OEM zap.  Since the client insists on keeping the same volsers I have no choice but to backup/delete & restore the dsns on the same volume.  My question is there a utility available to tell me which dsns on this particular volume could

Re: SYSTEM ABEND CODE 0F8 REASON CODE 00000014 under TESTAUTH

2011-10-18 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:54 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SYSTEM ABEND CODE 0F8 REASON CODE 0014 under TESTAUTH > > > Are you a member of

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
One other thought I had, run a DCOLLECT against the volume PROD06 and see if there are any errors. Also run a DIAGNOSE and EXAMINE against the VVDS, CATALOG both and individually. There might be some old stuff you could do an IDCAMS DEL on and get space back. Review the REDBOOK http://www.redboo

Re: z/OS Tag Sort

2011-10-18 Thread Yifat Oren
Hi David, You wrote: > .. That exit is limiting the sort to just 24MB of virtual storage when the optimum amount would be closer to 200MB. The data size was 360 GB (336m records). Can you please share the formula you've used to determine the optimum amount is around 200MB? The DFSORT Tunin

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
> > Thanks for the advice, most probably I will have to do something.  I was looking at > doing a logical backup of the volume, using DFDSS and inserting the DELETE > option.  Next, I plan to re-initialize the volume with a larger VVDS and restore the dsns > using a logical restore.  My only conce

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread esmie moo
Linda,   I did what you asked.  I ran the report and moved 90 dsns from the volume, however the problem still persists.  I was told to check OEM option to ZAP the VVDS.  I would like to try that out but I am not sure where I should look for it.  From: Linda Mo

Re: IEC331I 050-030(VVDSFULL, PROD06)

2011-10-18 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,   Thanks for the advice, most probably I will have to do something.  I was looking at doing a logical backup of the volume, using DFDSS and inserting the DELETE option.  Next, I plan to re-initialize the volume with a larger VVDS and restore the dsns using a logical restore.  My only co

Re: MQ alternatives

2011-10-18 Thread Timothy Sipples
To oversimplify only slightly, MQ is a transport and Web services is (are) a protocol. It's quite OK, even common, to run Web services over a JMS/MQ transport. If you say you want to use Web services instead of MQ, it's a bit like saying you want to use voicemail instead of a cellular telephone ne

Re: maxsystem in a sysplex - belated heads-up

2011-10-18 Thread Barbara Nitz
>The only thing I can do for you is check D XCF,S,ALL when one of the >systems has been brought down, but I suppose you have a testplex >yourself? Yes, we do. I don't remember ever to have issued this command with the ALL parm when one of the systems was down, but it will be easy to do that once

Re: maxsystem in a sysplex - belated heads-up

2011-10-18 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Barbara Nitz" wrote in message news:<8637203851702442.wa.nitzibmgmx@bama.ua.edu>... > Kees, > > >Thanks, we will be adding systems to our sysplexes soon, which fit > >within our maxsystems, but now I have to recheck if they really fit next > >to the current systens and ancient rubbish. > >

Re: maxsystem in a sysplex - belated heads-up

2011-10-18 Thread Barbara Nitz
Kees, >Thanks, we will be adding systems to our sysplexes soon, which fit >within our maxsystems, but now I have to recheck if they really fit next >to the current systens and ancient rubbish. maybe you can test for me if one can find out via simple display commands what rubbish is kept in the s

Re: SYSTEM ABEND CODE 0F8 REASON CODE 00000014 under TESTAUTH

2011-10-18 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:26:08 -0400 Micheal Butz wrote: :>I am trying to issue a branch entry form of a macro in a other address :>space since the specifications say PASN=HASN=SASN Which macro? :>SRB was the only way to go, the branch entry form of the macro was the only :>code in the SRB I fig

Re: BMC CMF vs. IBM RMF

2011-10-18 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Well, that was a bad day. But this does not justify the general statement that this never has happnened, nor ever will, with RMF. I bet there will at least be one site that has had a similar experience with RMF? We had the same feeling with one product from a third party vendor, that we used in

Re: BMC CMF vs. IBM RMF

2011-10-18 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Yes, that is my experience too. I can add that if you also purchase Mainview, you have a beautiful monitor for keeping a good eye on the behavings of your system, with very detailled drill down views and highly customizable presentation. I don't think RMF has this, at least not in that detail. An