jcew...@acm.org (Joel C. Ewing) writes:
ISPF directory dates are stored in the highly-peculiar IBM Julian Date
format variant used for SMF timestamps: a positive-signed PL4 field
currently defined as 0cyydddF. Although the formal definition at this
point only allows for 0c being 00 for 19xx
hal9...@panix.com (Robert A. Rosenberg) writes:
Such as you are not allowed to use a skill to win their games when you
are playing against them.
IOW: In Poker against other players it is ok to use your skill at the
game. Card Counting to keep track of what cards have been dealt is
banned
rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
Unfortunately, averice (greed) is not a property limited to the middle
class. Bernie Madoff is a prime example of how greed engenders more greed.
I submit that when the oppurtunity is presented, the temptation can be
overwhelming, even to the best
mike.a.sch...@gmail.com (Mike Schwab) writes:
Also, I would like to see that you can't buy a commodity without
taking delivery. They drove the crude prices up to $100 a barrel in
2008 despite oil tankers unable to load due to the storage tanks being
full.
re:
Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu writes:
But it appears that the salary was normal. Probably thought of as a
pittance to the people who think stock brokering is worth what they
get.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#36 Programmer Charged with thieft
(maybe off topic)
tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com (Thomas Kern) writes:
They did not get quite the best thief that money could buy. Maybe if
they were more concerned with quality rather than sheer profit, they
might have gotten a more honest reliable programmer.
If they still have that opening, I can come up with a team
joa...@swbell.net (John McKown) writes:
Man, I will never get anywhere near that salary. Complaint was that he
downloaded the source to a software system which did their trades. I
guess to sell it to other companies. Or maybe to examine to see if any
flaws could be exploited. The article
oh ... and in the early 90s ... when we were doing ha/cmp product and
talking to some number of trading operations (including SIAC which ran
datacenter operations for NYSE) ... with respect to what would the
impact of an outage be. One computer in tall skyscraper in LA supposedly
earn more money
hal9...@panix.com (Robert A. Rosenberg) writes:
I assume that this is safe since you can not stop being the running
task between the test and your updating the ECB (and there is not
compare swap was invented by charlie at the science center when
he was working on fine-grain locking for cp67
dennis.ro...@lmco.com (Roach, Dennis , N-GHG) writes:
Let's get the timeline right
1966 MFT
1967 CP/CMS (IBM internal)
1969 Unix
1972 VM/379 (public release of CP/CMS)
1972 OS/VS1
1972 OS/VS2R1 - SVS
1974 OS/VS2R2 - MVS
note that folklore is that unix was simplified version of multics
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
The CDC mainframes were liquid cooled. I don't know how the
jurisdictional disputes were resolved. 308x must have had similar
conflicts.
past posts mentioning cdc6600 doing thermal shutdown every week at the
same time ... turns out to have been
jcew...@acm.org (Joel C. Ewing) writes:
I've always felt it was a bad idea to have installation mainframe
documentation too far separated from the mainframe platform itself or
dependent on any other server platforms, under the general premise
that in a DR situation if we have recovered the
tom.har...@neon.com (Tom Harper) writes:
I'm not so sure. Many CICS shops have pointed out to me that they are
forced to run hundreds of CICS regions for the simple fact that 2G is
not enough address space to contain all of their programs. This
requires them to spend an inordinate amount of
michealb...@optonline.net (Micheal Butz) writes:
Who says I'm developing anything
Dataspaces are more painfully and probably slower then regular storage
dataspaces were probably meant to
Releive storage constriant
multiple address spaces started in 811 (for nov78 date on the
documents)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
I generally preferred XEDIT but I missed having two kinds of shift.
But I'm a tool-building guy and XEDIT had better facilities for
building edit macros than ISPF/PDF EDIT has.
there were several internally developed
Allodoxaphobia knock_yourself_...@example.net writes:
I believe the eyecatchers evolved over time. First just the module
name. Then some pin-head lawyer in Armonk convinced them they needed a
copyright statement.
the other justification was the unbundling announcement and starting to
when stl was going to move 300 people from the IMS group off-site ...
they looked at remote 3270s support but found it terribly unacceptable
... after being use to on-site, channel attached, local 3270 vm370
response.
I did the support for them that used HYPERChannel as channel extender to
put
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Edward Jaffe) writes:
I guess we're one of the other four. TSM for z/OS works great for
us. It's hooked into our mainframe-based cron facilities, uses large
DASD EAVs, uses the same tapes and drives that HSM uses--which get
moved by RMM to the same off-site
st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes:
No. I was working for IBM when TSO was announced. It was then, truly an
Option, and supported any kind of terminal, but it took ISPF to provide
the front end for full screen 3270 type interface we're used to today.
i had hacked hasp on mvt
and for only a little topic drift, another recent article
The Scariest Company in Tech
http://www.conceivablytech.com/3637/business/the-scariest-company-in-tech
it references a presentation from 2001 that mentions the fastest DBMS
on the largest IBM computer. I noticed, in part because of
gerh...@valley.net (Gerhard Postpischil) writes:
I didn't say that 3390 size has any relevance, only that the same
considerations apply. Whatever physical medium is used for the FBA
disk, each platter will hold multiple records. Due to (cheap)
electronics, the gaps are of significant size, so
from today
Western Digital Launches First 3TB Hard Drive
http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/portable/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=227900320itc=ref-true
mentions that it is a FBA4096 drive (rather than FBA512 that has been
standard for so long) suggested retail is $239, $74/tbyte (2.5TB
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
switch to PC). the mid-80s, PC and workstations were getting
sophisticated enough that they were becoming there own network nodes as
part of distributed computing ... except with heavy mainframe
datacenters (both internally and with customers
ps2...@yahoo.com (Ed Gould) writes:
Lynn:
Somewhere in the mid to late 70's I was given access to a MVS system
that ran somew where in IBM (possibly west coast but who knew or
cared). The purpose of the access was to see if TSO session manager
gave us hardcopy for TSO. We had quite a bill
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
Google is reported to operate its enterprise on tens of thousands of
commodity PCs running Linux. (But there were reports last January
of Google's suffering an attack by a Windows virus.)
Given Google's pragmatism, and the economic advantages of
maryanne4...@gmail.com (Mary Anne Matyaz) writes:
I'd always heard Social Conversation in a Drunken Stupor.
the definition I was told in the 60s was the
Society for Continuous Inebreation During Share
back in the days of open bar ... and one of the activities was seeing
how many bottles could
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#62 When will MVS be able to use cheap
dasd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#65 When will MVS be able to use cheap
dasd
post from similar thread in this n.g. from 2007
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#13 Question on DASD Hardware
with
d...@lists.duda.com (David Andrews) writes:
You could stay up all night typing in random subscriber IDs to see what
you would get. It didn't take long to discover that the first three
digits of a subscriber ID was the telephone area code of the subscriber.
That cut down on the search space
... oh, and the software company (front for criminal organization)
apparently was selected on the basis of being the low bidder.
--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
--
For IBM-MAIN
p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) writes:
Long ago and far away, a friend was looking at the VSE microfiche and
found an undocumented SVC that stored the top half of a register value
in the address contained in the bottom half of the register. He
promptly wrote a program that used that SVC to gain
joe.m...@yahoo.com (Joe Mc) writes:
I'm getting into a rather heated argument with a non mainframe
colleague about whether the mainframe has been hacked or
not. Legitimate hacking, not a disgruntled employee doing something
illegal and not loss of tapes or other media. I'm talking the
ps2...@yahoo.com (Ed Gould) writes:
William:
Thanks it was interesting. What I got a big kick out of how IBM did
not mention their abandoment of education in the 80's and 90's. Their
2003 date was to late and a dollar short.
I also thought it was interesting as how they danced around some
m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes:
John:
Interesting that you should mention the CMS file system and MVS.
Back around 1982 I was working for IBM in the Poughkeepsie, NY
lab. Four of us did a prototype which ran CMS in a TSO address space
under SIE.
I did a coporate advanced
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
Where did you put NUCON? IIRC, there's an EXTRN for NUCON, which
implies the possibility of relocating it and using an ADCON as a
base. But IIRC also there's so much hardcoded USING NUCON,R0
that relocation would be futile. Aren't the PSWs also
rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
My 2 cents worth: the cheap DASD doesn't live up to the reliability
standards that IBM demands for z/OS. Stop and think, really hard,
about the demands on z/OS DASD storage, as opposed to the standards
you enjoy with your PC DASD. How many of your PC's
d...@lists.duda.com (David Andrews) writes:
Perhaps TCPIP autolog would do the trick as well? Does your product run
all the time?
I had originally created the *autolog* command for automated
benchmarking ... near the end of the system boot/ipl process, it would
autolog a generic id
timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes:
In terms of CPU burden, sure, there's CPU burden incurred *somewhere*, and
CPU burden is never free anywhere. My employer -- the one that I do not
speak for -- has neatly solved that financial problem at least in this
particular mainframe
dbo...@sinenomine.net (David Boyes) writes:
8232 (a channel attached PC/AT that came with a Ungermann/Bass 10mbit
Ethernet card that jammed easily on networks with lots of collisions)
also genned as a CTC
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#26 z/OS, TCP/IP, and OSA
one of the reasons
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
At some point the TCP/IP stack must pass the address of an input
buffer to the network interface. Can an oversize packet overflow
that buffer? Or does the channel program prevent that and provide
a Length Indication?
re:
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
IIRC, the first TCP/IP interface we had was an Intel Fastpath. I believe
it was genned as a CTC. I found a 1988 Network Workd article mentioning
Intel Fastpath Model 9750D and Interlink Model 3732.
original ibm mainframe tcp/ip product was done
previous ibm-main (at google) references were direct couple at la
science center and ucla (that morphed into ASP on 360)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#3
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#7
ibm 7090 wiki page mentions two 7094/7044 direct couple systems at
caltech/jpl
part of ibmmain thread from 2000 that ASP was some IBM group
that did Direct Couple at the LA Science Center (i.e. ASP
traces back to 7040/7090 direct couple system):
http://www.garli.ccom/~lynn/2000.html#77
predates the archives here (jan2005):
http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
but
before being con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of loosely-coupled
architecture, my wife did a stint in the JES group ... including working
on spec. for JESUS (JES Unified System) ... taking all the features,
that customers couldn't live w/o, from both JES (slightly earlier, she
had been
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
side-effect of unbundling, starting to charge for software, and
gov. looking over your shoulder ... misc. posts mentioning 23jun69
unbundling
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#84 Set
bi...@mainstar.com (Bill Fairchild) writes:
I was writing about the prevalence of TSO and ISPF, not their exact
birthdates. I should have made that clearer in my previous post.
old references to why VM370 performance products and ISPF development
were merged into the same group (also reference
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#80 3270 Emulator Software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#83 3270 Emulator Software
... image of the 3270 logo screen at the offsite IMS location
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/vmhyper.jpg
it is from 1980 35mm slide presentation on the effort ...
robert.richa...@opm.gov (Richards, Robert B.) writes:
This thread just proves most of us are getting or already are... *old*! :-)
How about the commercials?
Ovaltine, N-E-S-T-L-E-S, 20 Mule Team Borax, Brylcreem (A Little
Dab'll Do Ya!), Ipana Toothpaste with Bucky Beaver
(Brusha...
dalelmil...@comcast.net (Dale Miller) writes:
Actually, this is a reflection on Lynn Wheeler's contribution of 8/30.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#80 3270 Emulator Software
in that period ... the executive responsible for IMS had left and joined
a large financial institution in the
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes:
Some people still use real 3270s. I do, but only for consoles and
local (non-SNA) terminals. However I do my regular work on emulator
since day 0.
i kept a real 3277 for a long time because the human factors were so
much better than 3274/3278. we
Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
370/168-1 had 16kbyte processor cache and avg. 2.6 machine cycles per
370 instruction. 370/168-3 doubled processor cache size to 32kbyte and
some microcode work reduced things to 2.1 machine cycles per 370
instruction.
oops, brain check
gahe...@gmail.com (George Henke) writes:
Does anyone know a good LISTSERV for z/VM?
do you want one that runs on z/VM or one about z/VM?
the original was implementated on VM in the mid-80s as part of EARN
(european flavor of bitnet) ... aka the bit.listerv part of
usenet are the original
t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes:
The largest salesman's bonus in IBM history?
there was story they told when I was at boeing ... about when the first
360s were announced ... boeing had studied the announcement and walked
in to the salesman and placed a really big order ... the salesman
one of the reasons that SIE instruction was so slow on the 3081 ... was
that the service processor had to page some of the microcode in from
3310 FBA disk. things got faster on 3090 with SIE microcode resident
... and a lot more virtualization hardware support ... eventually
expanded to PR/SM (on
john_w_gilm...@msn.com (john gilmore) writes:
A good first reference is:
F. J. Allen and John Cocke, A catalog of optimizing transformations,
Courant Computer Science Symposium 5, Upper Saddle River, NJ:
Prentice-Hall, 1977, pp. 1-30.
John's invention of 801/risc ... I've frequently
richbourg.cla...@mail.dc.state.fl.us (Richbourg, Claude) writes:
I was cleaning out my office today and found an old IBM manual from
February 1998:
The Year 2000 and 2-Digit Dates:
A Guide for Planning and Implementation GC28-1251-08
in the early 80s, one of the online conferences on
scott.r...@joann.com (Scott Rowe) writes:
OK,the 9121 had some CMOS in it, but also still had much Bipolar logic:
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download;jsessionid=212AEDFD169F4B9A8AB5D641C4560917?doi=10.1.1.86.4485rep=rep1type=pdf
compares footprint of 9121 air-cooled (announced
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#41 IBM 3883 Manuals
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#42 IBM 3883 Manuals
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#43 IBM 3883 Manuals
for other 3380 related info ... this old email talks about track spacing
(being 20 track widths on original 3380 and
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
Certainly for the ES/9000 and 43xx processors; I'm not sure about,
e.g., the 370/145.
late 70s there was start of effort to move the large variety of internal
microprocessors to 801/risc (iliad chips) ... this included the
eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
The simple explanation is, during one of the MVS/SP1.x releases, some
things that were done in disabled mode, and under SRB reported CPU,
were done in disabled mode and TCB which was allocated to the last
active task.
MVS didn't actually directly
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
Is that anything like thin film replacing core? Or bubbles?
Predicting that that a technology will be supplanted is easy.
Accurately predicting what will replace it and when is hard.
lot of DBMS are disk-centric and based on the
wmhbl...@comcast.net (William H. Blair) writes:
I've never seen this documented. But I never looked that deeply,
either, so it might have been in my face since 1981. Regardless,
I was told it was only for purposes of allocating space on the
actual track -- AS IF the device actually wrote
rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
At Clearing, we ran MVS very nicely on three 4341 Model Group 2 boxen
for three years and it ran very nicely. Nowdays, my pocket calculator
probably has more raw compute power but the fact remains that we were
very happy with the equipment, until our
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#16 Region Size - Step or Jobcard
i.e. MVS was still mostly the same address space ... or every MVS
virtual address space was mostly the same (some installations, 13mbytes
threatening to become 14mbytes, of every 16mbyte virtual address
space) ... in
rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
At NCSS we devised a scheme to use 2305 devices for paging. We figured
3 pages per track and we inserted a gap record between the
pages. Thus we were able to fetch all three pages, from three
different exposures, in a single revolution of the device.
m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Tom Marchant) writes:
More precisely, MVT had a single address space
aka VS2/SVS was minimally modified MVT in a single (16mbyte) virtual
address space; biggest change was borrowing ccwtrans from cp67 for EXCP
... to take the application-passed channel program and make
kees.verno...@klm.com (Vernooij, CP - SPLXM) writes:
If inventing a good name is one thing, reusing it is apparently still
better. I know at least 3 IBM products/features that were/are called
Hydra. Apparently this is a 'monster'ly well working term.
re:
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
The 2301 and 2303 were drums; I don't recall the geometry.
2303 drum had slightly over 4k bytes on track.
2301 was almost a 2303 ... except it transferred data on four heads in
parallel (i.e. same capacity, 1/4th the number of
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
ITYM when did memory become storage. Certainly the use of memory
predates the S/360.
there was big deal with announcement for 370 virtual memory ... about
having to change all virtual memory references to virtual storage
references
rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
Most of those geometry-related System Services didn't exist! :-)
E4 channel command (extended sense) was introduced to start providing
device characteristics (theoritically starting to minimize the amount of
device information that had to be provided in
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#76 History of Hard-coded Offsets
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#1 History of Hard-coded Offsets
the thing that even made the 3390 statement possible was the existance
of the whole additional complexity of the CKD virtualization layer on
top of
eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
I think that was a good thing.
I was one of the ones, in Canada, complaining about the constant changes in
geometry.
3330-3350-3380-3390 (and don't forget 'compatability' mode.
This impacted productivity, migration, space (at a time it mattered),
pacemainl...@gmail.com (Mark Pace) writes:
I had an SE many years ago that did say S-N-A as SNAH. Confused me every
time. I've never heard anyone try to say R-J-E as a word. What you you use,
reggie?
i've heard lots of SNAH ... don't remember RJE as a word ... but do
remember CRJE as as a
ponce...@bcs.org.uk (CM Poncelet) writes:
That is what an ex-IBMer from the old days told me 'CICS' originally
stood for - before it was renamed as 'Customer Information Control
System' and sold to the rest of the world. I have no supporting
evidence apart from this hearsay.
I was
ponce...@bcs.org.uk (CM Poncelet) writes:
For what it's worth, the chap who told me that CICS' original name was
Cincinnati Information Control System also said that DFH stood for
Denver Foot Hills; but no one has ever confirmed this. I once asked
Pete Sadler whether he could explain where DFH
peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com (Hunkeler Peter , KIUP 4) writes:
Isn't IBM nice? Being white when delivered, everybody can paint it the
way he/she likes it most..
i've done a qd conversion of the old (internal) greencard ios3270 file
to html.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html
i've
donb...@gmail.com (Don Williams) writes:
PCP - MFT - MVT - MVS... IBM sales was changing the name even when it was
pcp, mft/mft-ii, mvt were all sysgen options for os/360 (as opposed to
dos/360)
for 370 virtual memory there was DOS-DOS/VS; MFT-OS/VS1 and
MVT-OS/VS2 (and cp67-vm37).
initial
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za (Elardus Engelbrecht) writes:
From ADSM to TSM
RACF to Security Server
MVS/XA - MVS/ESA - OS/390 - z/OS
etc... (can't remember now what ... )
ADSM goes back to CMSBACK I did in the late 70s ... was distributed
internally ... it was finally released as
jim.marsh...@opm.gov (Jim Marshall) writes:
The comments are warranted although there is more to this than meets the
eye. Since you cam blame me for unleashing TSSO on the SHAREWARE world
you need to understand its origins. Back in the Air Force Data Services
Center
in the Pentagon in
wmhbl...@comcast.net (William H. Blair) writes:
Younger and newer programmers followed the habits of those
who came before them. Many of those who first ventured into
OS extensions and neat, useful programs did so on what
today would be considered unusably slow computers (mostly
due to I/O).
joa...@swbell.net (John McKown) writes:
TSS could be Top Secret Security - a replacement for RACF from CA. It is
still an active product. CA could likely tell you more.
Could you possibly mean TSS/360? It was an IBM operating system for the
S/360. There was also a TSS/370. Time Sharing System
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that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
crashlu...@gmail.com (Chris Craddock) writes:
just when you think you've created a fool-proof system, the universe will
deliver you a superior class of fool
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zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) writes:
OK, this is topic drift, but: are you saying that having stringent password
requirements is a failure? Because I sure think
m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Tom Marchant) writes:
Bi-modal? You mean like MVS/XA? Or do you mean that you
could run it in ESA mode? From the 1.6 announcement:
z/OS V1.6 must execute in a z/Architecture (64-bit) mode.
above/below line was originally introduced with 16mbyte real storage
for
with regard to cms script dot commands from ctss runoff (implemented
in MAD), there was recent announcement (on a.f.c.) about having CTSS up
and running under simulator. reference here:
http://www.cozx.com/~dpitts/ibm7090.html
misc past posts in thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#42
Steve Samson ssam...@dc.rr.com writes:
If in SCRIPT, some GML function is based on and built with dot command
primitives and implemented as SCRIPT macros, that does not make GML a
superset of the dot commands.
... and (cp67/cms) SCRIPT was written in 360 assembler ... which doesn't
make the
wfarr...@us.ibm.com (Walt Farrell) writes:
If you consider ENQs such as the one ISPF created to protect updating
members of a partitioned data set, and that some other programs also use,
that ENQ is more obviously advisory.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#38 Unix systems and
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jcew...@acm.org (Joel C. Ewing) writes:
When IBM took over Script, I don't know about VM but at least under MVS
they renamed it DCF (Document Composition
jayare...@hotmail.com (J R) writes:
It's _sleight_ of hand.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#54 Unix systems and Serialization
mechanism
thnks ... my (lack of correct) typing/spelling is well documented.
after getting blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal
network
ptl...@midamerican.com (Patrick Lyon) writes:
OMG - I have to hand it to you Ted. I didn't think it was possible to come
up
with a tagline more annoying than your last, but by George, you've done it.
standard distributions tend to come with lots of quotes from
Zippy The Pinhead
linda.lst...@comcast.net (Linda Mooney) writes:
Genenalized Markup Languge, often called Script, ran under VM/CMS,
html is very similar to it. IBM used to produce their manuals years
ago . I don't know if they developed it. I used it for several years
during the '80s and early '90s to write
efinnel...@aol.com (Ed Finnell) writes:
We were ESP for early GML and the little tin foil printers 42xx
somethings. IIRC SCRIPT and Waterloo were similar but diverged at the
MACRO level starting with GML. Dr Goldfarb used to be one of the
'highlight' sessions at SHARE and was entertaining as
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
more history here (also mentions last names):
http://www.sgmlsource.com/history/roots.htm
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#42 GML
from roots.htm ...
Later in 1971, when product development was imminent, I gave GML its
present name so
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
Is there a shell interface to flock()?
Is the lock automatically freed when the requesting process terminates,
for whatever cause?
from flock man page:
NAME
flock - Manage locks from shell scripts
SYNOPSIS
flock [-sxon] [-w
zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) writes:
OK, it's Friday afternoon, so time to broaden this a bit: Is HTML a
programming language?
HTML derived from SGML:
http://infomesh.net/html/history/early
which was ISO standard of GML ... misc. posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml
invented
bi...@mainstar.com (Bill Fairchild) writes:
For Friday use only. :-)
The only meaning of the letters GML that ever occurs to me is the
initials of Canada's premier balladeer Gordon Meredith Lightfoot.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#41
look at the SGML reference here (mentions
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
But does anybody here still have manuals documenting that fact, or
contacts with someone who has access to the IBM archives? I was hoping
that someone still had the CE manuals.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#10
bi...@mainstar.com (Bill Fairchild) writes:
YDRC (You Don't Recall Correctly).
The 3310 and 3370 were FBA above the covers. All other
mainframe-attachable DASDs from IBM were CKD above the covers (3390,
3380, 3375, 3350, 3340, 3330, 2321, 2314, 2305, 2303, 2302, and 2301).
aka 3375/florence
gerh...@valley.net (Gerhard Postpischil) writes:
That doesn't sound right. Each TSO session runs in its own region, and
you need an additional TCAM or VTAM region to handle terminal I/O. A
machine with 4MB was considered large. So if you had three sessions of
that size, your machine probably
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
joa...@swbell.net (John McKown) writes:
I think that there is a difference between having a normal (ain't no
such beastie) application programmer and an old
peter.far...@broadridge.com (Farley, Peter x23353) writes:
Attention to details like this (and some similar optimizations) saved
one application I have worked on almost 50% of its previous CPU
utilization without changing the application algorithm in any other way.
the science center had
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