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Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu writes:
The question is - are they secure enough?It takes more work to
clone a chip card, but do crooks who have the
scott.r...@joann.com (Scott Rowe) writes:
Just a wild guess. If all pointers are to storage on a doubleword boundary,
the address can be shifted right three bits. Then you can point to any
doubleword below 32 GB using an unsigned 32-bit address. How that might
help performance is a mystery
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
but that wasn't the refrain during the future system period in the 90s
... FS was going to be as different from s/360
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paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
So that's where CMS got that idea. But z/OS device independence is eroding.
Why are there
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Steve Samson ssam...@dc.rr.com writes:
The bar is a thick one, from 2g to 4g, sacrificed to avoid a
somewhat unlikely compatibility exposure. Undisciplined use of the
high-order bit in
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hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com writes:
I think Watson's leadership also contributed to many IBMers eventually
leaving the company and going to the competition to build
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Tony Harding toh...@universalexports.bogus.net writes:
Amen to that, Ed! I worked in the field for IBM 1965-70, and the
overriding word there regarding a major
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m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Tom Marchant) writes:
Part of the reason for the paging problem was that the architecture did not
have a fixed page size. It was a
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zosw...@gmail.com (P S) writes:
While we're fantasizing (boy, are WE geeks!), that would have been an
interesting way for the characters to have been ordered in
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hmerr...@jackhenry.com (Hal Merritt) writes:
Cross posting to both IBM-MAIN and RACF.
Anyone have the latest on PCI's stance on network encryption solutions?
post in (linkedin)
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timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes:
Does anyone understand this article's title? It's quite tough to parse.
The title is very much like saying
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
we claim that the payment gateway was the original SOA ... some posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html
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re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#7 Union Pacific Railroad ditches its
mainframe for SOA
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#8 Union Pacific Railroad
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chrisma...@belgacom.net (Chris Mason) writes:
I believe it really worked only if the customer had ordered and taken
delivery
of the said machine types at or
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rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
In re the 165, 165 II and 168, you're quite right. I don't consider
the 370/195 to be a true s/370, inspite of the
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g...@gabegold.com (Gabe Goldberg) writes:
Speaking of ISAM doing interesting channel programming -- ISAM was
implicated in a very early VM security/integrity
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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#52 360 programs on a z/10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#57 360 programs on a z/10
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m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes:
ISAM did some pretty interesting channel programming. It was back in
the late '60s and early '70s while teaching
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
there was 370/195 with outboard channels (basically an upgraded of
360/195 with few additional instructions
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
I had done a lot of stuff for cp67 as undergraudate ... that was picked
up and shipped in the product. For the morph
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shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
for the 3090 service processor ... it started out with 4331 running a
highly customized version of
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rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
IIRC, the DAT box was optional on the 370/145 and became standard on
the 370/148. Ditto the 370/155 and 370/158 and
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m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes:
Yes, I had forgotten about SIO/HIO/TIO and was reminded of those by
your first post. I can't recall if I ever
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
I also got dragged into lots of the product planning meetings for
138/148 with business meetings at various world
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tommyt...@gmail.com (Tommy Tsui) writes:
The new system uses IBM's specialty Linux processor and runs either
Novell SUSE or Red Hat systems. It does not use the
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bi...@mainstar.com (Bill Fairchild) writes:
On the REALLY old boxes (S/360), the performance problem was called a
S0C6 specification exception program interrupt
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
this old references working on trying to turn out a product that would
simulate NCP/pu4 to host systems ... simulating
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leful...@sbcglobal.net (Lloyd Fuller) writes:
360/30s with 256K. Full 2314 = 8 x 800K. I am not sure how many
tape drives, but they were the old 7-track
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
At the time, some internal locations were bursting at the seams in terms
of raised floor and 4341s were solution
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
the major internal networking technology was able to have native
drivers ... but also install jes2 drivers
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leful...@sbcglobal.net (Lloyd Fuller) writes:
What do you mean Sun was the first?
The US Army used 360/30 and 360/40s in 18-wheel trailers back in the
early
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paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
I often wonder whether a reason TCP/IP triumphed over SNA was
that SNA didn't provide a facility with the
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and for something completely different
As IBM sales suffer, now's the time to buy a new mainframe
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/120409-ibm-mainframe.html
jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) writes:
Hmmm . . . $50,000 in annual salary, and $176,000 in attendance
fees . . ..
What's an attendance fee? Is that anything like the appearance fees
paid to certain famous folks for simply showing up?
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77
note
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ma...@resa.net (Warner Mach) writes:
I believe that I have identified an interesting phenomenon
in the ongoing mainframe vs distributed servers debate. I
call
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paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
I often wonder whether a reason TCP/IP triumphed over SNA was
that SNA didn't provide a facility with the
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Morten Reistad fi...@last.name writes:
SNA never embraced TCP/IP. Many others did, and the protocols survive
on top of the Internet.
re:
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john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes:
What! You don't fondly remember the joys of running a Stage 1 / Stage
2 sysgen? How you could be productive
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rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
I wouldn't mind looking back at the good old days, but only for
hysterical purposes. SIO/TIO/HIO are NOT areas I would
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Pierre Fichaud pr...@videotron.ca writes:
Most banks have SLAs with acquiring institutions like FirstData,etc as
far as transaction turnaround times are
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
we had been called in to consult with small client/server startup that
wanted to payment transactions on their server
kgold...@gmail.com (Kim Goldenberg) writes:
According to the Accenture item in Wikipedia, It was once part of
Arthur Andersen. See the article for more information as to how the
name became Accenture.
long-winded related reply
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77
--
40+yrs
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i...@vmfacility.fr (Ivan Warren) writes:
Hmphhh..
In the dept of other possible ways by the hardware to damage
performance when preventing I/O queue processing
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ibm-m...@frozen.eclipse.co.uk (Roy Hewitt) writes:
applications and systems strung together over 30 or 40 years. The z10s
are probably one of the most hi-tech
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paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
Less than two decades ago, I had to work overtime and save money
to afford a 200 MB external SCSI drive, and I had
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howard.bra...@cusys.edu writes:
And if there is a problem with this upgrade, I can run Safari or
Opera.My work isn't dependent upon Firefox (nor its
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sc...@aitrus.org (Scott) writes:
With a cheaper job market, now is the time to hire hands to go through your
massive libraries of copy-and-paste COBOL and begin
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re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#67 Now is time for banks to replace core
system according to Accenture
semi-advertisement warning ... in the past
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edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Edward Jaffe) writes:
In his System z keynote address at SHARE in Austin, Karl Freund
described a hypothetical future machine in
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eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com (Eric Bielefeld) writes:
This is kind of off the topic, but related. Wasn't there a discussion
on IBM-Main a couple years ago about the
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
there have also been some number of (failed) FAA modernization
efforts. About the time we were doing ha/cmp
re:
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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#20 Mainframe running 1,500 Linux servers?
basic ESCON technology had been knocking around POK for quite some
time before being released. One of the Austin engineers adopted
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bi...@mainstar.com (Bill Fairchild) writes:
15. The agency accepts delivery of the upgraded equipment and begins
training its people in how to use the newer
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lba...@bellatlantic.net (Alex UMX) writes:
Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 8 hours per year.
Not to
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
for random other drift ... recent posts about old Jim Gray paper that
by early 80s, majority of outages had shifted
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timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes:
Linux on System z supports Discontinguous Saved Segments (DCSS), a z/VM
shared memory feature, and has for
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timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes:
This cuts both ways. Obviously you're not going to support an OSA Express
or FICON Express adapter on an X86
a little topic drift, i seem to remember share ... mid to late 70s
... denver(?)
one of the share officials had a relative/friend(?) in CW band that had
a song involving lyrics bony fingers ... which was adapted for
describing JES2 ... decade-old post somewhat to the rescue ... earlier
bi...@mainstar.com (Bill Fairchild) writes:
It was Dave Thewliss and Anne Ashley, from Kaiser Permanente Health in
California, who did a presentation on early MVS performance at the
March, 1975 SHARE in Los Angeles. I'm pretty sure that I heard them
also do the song in a presentation on their
chris_blaic...@bmc.com (Blaicher, Chris) writes:
I remember reading about someone putting a very large number of Linux
systems on a z using z/VM. Their problem wasn't how many as it was
the internet connection being large enough for all the traffic. It
was a while ago, and things get fuzzy
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john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes:
I think that SaaS is simply SOAP, but you pay. Sounds a bit like the
old Time Sharing systems that you could
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zosw...@gmail.com (P S) writes:
That's assuming that this lying violates the law...not necessarily the
case (though one can hope).
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#80 IBM
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jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) writes:
It's not (only) IBM pushing down the pay scales.
Like it or not, we live in a global economy, and our segment of that
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ps2...@yahoo.com (Ed Gould) writes:
Scott:
I agree with you and other posters but I think I have some evidence
that indicates IBM is essentially attempting to
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steve_thomp...@stercomm.com (Thompson, Steve) writes:
Why is it called a memory leak? I think that's a distributed term. We
used to call it something else on the
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eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
Speed Matching Buffer, probably.
I thought so, too.
They were more trouble than they were worth.
Just like the fixed
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dpurd...@aol.com (David Purdy) writes:
Yup, Speed Matching Buffer is correct. 168 had timing issues with
state-of-the-art 3380's (STK 8380's if I remember).
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re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#12 Secret Service plans IT reboot
there use to be a joke about TSO users not realizing how deplorable
performance was
jbaker...@comporium.net (John P. Baker) writes:
Give that staggering number of financial transactions processed on a daily
basis, over 90% of which is done on large-scale IBM mainframes, is it not
strange that you have never heard of a mainframe virus? IBM RAS and IBM
Security (whether
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l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
lots of the financial stuff grew up in mainframe batch ... some past
references/discussions (this from linkedin
mw...@ssfcu.org (Ward, Mike S) writes:
Yes, I understand. If I wanted to change processors I would also go for
the fastest cycle times. I remember a company that had a 400 mip(single
engine) machine which then purchased a 600 mip 3 engine machine (200
mips per engine). (mips and engines are
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jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) writes:
From CONgress' viewpoint: It's public money. It doesn't belong to
anybody, so we *have to* spend it.
My viewpoint:
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gra...@ase.com.au (Graeme Gibson) writes:
And before people throw too many stones at IBM ..
Let's say that Air NZ were to switch IT facilities providers, either
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Peter Flass peter_fl...@yahoo.com writes:
I'd say I'm sure IBM knows what they're doing, but based on what I've
heard about how the company makes decisions, I
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Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
With the rise of clone processors, there was change in decision to not
charge for kernel software ... and my (about
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U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/100909-congress-mainframes.html?hpg1=bn
from above:
The U.S.
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shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
That has nothing to do with whether IBM's licensing policies violated
antitrust laws. The fact
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d...@longpelaexpertise.com.au (David Stephens) writes:
I've always thought that a page fault in any operating system,
including z/OS, would generate an
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hmerr...@jackhenry.com (Hal Merritt) writes:
Something to consider, however, is that we found that email delivery
of critical reports to customers to be
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cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) writes:
3 incidents come to mind. The first was a 2821 print controller that
blew up error recovery by sending back
rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
We had a similar problem on a 158 w/AP at Trailer Train, many moons ago.
remember that 158 3031 were the same engine.
after future system was canceled (was going to replace 360/370 and was
as different from 360/370 as 360/370 had been from earlier
gerh...@valley.net (Gerhard Postpischil) writes:
In the eighties I worked for a service bureau that provided primarily
on-line Wylbur and batch services. We acquired two 4341
processors. While the customers didn't need it, I started working on
TSO. On the bare test system, I could log on and
rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes:
ISTR a similar problem with the 360/67, when a BAL or its target were
split across a page boundary. The dialectric material in the ROS needed
replacement and the CE replaced it with three layers of SARAN Wrap and
the machine worked perfectly after
wmhbl...@comcast.net (William H. Blair) writes:
Of course, to some people it wasn't common knowledge.
But folks were no more interested in hearing about the
two-digit year problem in 1981 than they were in 1995.
Nobody (but some banks and a lot of software vendors)
cared. It would not hit the
crashlu...@gmail.com (Chris Craddock) writes:
Coyote something. That was the original postal area name. For some reason I
guess it was considered un-pc at the time.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#15 Mainframe Hall of Fame: Three New
Members Added
closet post office; (also) the
mike.my...@pcmh.com (Mike Myers) writes:
I recall it being called Coyote Canyon on one of my trips out there.
re:
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Members Added
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#16 Mainframe Hall of Fame: Three New
Members Added
ui0037...@techmahindra.com (Umamaheshwar Iyer) writes:
I started mine on a WANG-VS which was user friendly. After the demise of
this wonderful machine, I got a chance working on the Mainframe, which
was quite tough when working from a user friendly system to a non-user
friendly system. Almost
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steve_thomp...@stercomm.com (Thompson, Steve) writes:
Dr. Wang is no longer with us. And the company, WANG, was taken over by
another company and they basically
bshan...@rocketsoftware.com (Bob Shannon) writes:
But IIRC, the primary designer was Jack Gelb with assistance from Ed Duray.
... from long ago and far away, kick-off DSAB ... (one of your
referenced names with email address at STLVM23 was listed in cc list):
Date: 1 July 1985, 13:28:50 EDT
bshan...@rocketsoftware.com (Bob Shannon) writes:
SHARE used to publish two volumes of Proceedings: Volume I was a book
containing papers; Volume II was microfiche of everything else. I have
started to convert the Volume I Proceedings to PDF. I have Volume I
from SHARE 74 (Anaheim, Winter
mp...@novell.com (Mark Post) writes:
Correct, although as is IBM's wont, it's now called DB2 LUW
(Linux/UNIX/Windows). A completely different code base from DB2 on
z/OS, with some differences in available features, but as close as
you're going to get to the DB2 you might be used to on z/OS.
docfarmer9...@yahoo.co.uk (Doc Farmer) writes:
Today marks when I started my first job in IT. Well, my first PAYING
job - I built my first PC for a guy when I was 15, but I'm talking the
BIG IRON. I started as a keypunch operator on night-shift (while going
to high school during the day
Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
some old email indicates that even 9083 hand-picked only came in
marginally faster than 3083 (not even on the order of 8.6 that would
have been indicated with 3081kx2). 9083 did have a different I/O
microcode load to bias for the typical higher
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
m...@corestore.org (Mike Ross) writes:
Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRsLCF4KNzg
in the above ... the cabinet housing the 2741 only has a couple inches
steve.fi...@eds.com (Finch, Steve) writes:
Most VPNs do not encrypt the connection from endpoint to endpoint, which
is what is PCI requires. The VPN would need to start on the mainframe
and go all the way to the PC. Most VPN run on a appliance (server), a
hop away from the mainframe. The last
wfarr...@us.ibm.com (Walt Farrell) writes:
So use the VPN technology that's built-in to z/OS (IPSec), and forego using
an external appliance.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#5 Need new 3270 emulator: SSH,
inexpensive, reliable
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#7 Need new 3270
steve.fi...@eds.com (Finch, Steve) writes:
Most VPNs do not encrypt the connection from endpoint to endpoint, which
is what is PCI requires. The VPN would need to start on the mainframe
and go all the way to the PC. Most VPN run on a appliance (server), a
hop away from the mainframe. The last
mp...@novell.com (Mark Post) writes:
SSH depends on SSL to do its encryption.
SSH SSL both do public key operations
SSL(/TLS) has bunch of stuff in the protocol with (public key) digital
certificates.
SSH protocol doesn't require digital certificates for its public key
operations.
some open
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
we had been called in to consult with a small client/server startup that
wanted to do payment transactions on their server ... and the startup
had invented this technology called SSL that they wanted to use. As part
of that deployment ... now
gib...@wsu.edu (Gibney, Dave) writes:
You are not correct. You can make SSL optional and therefore clear if
it is not used, if the connection is secure, all data (including
Userid/password) is encrypted.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#5 Need new 3270 emulator: SSH,
inexpensive,
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