We have two production VM systems,
plus a few others - small DR system,
2nd level test system, 1st level LPAR
test system.
I always build *one*, and then copy the
required parts to other systems. For those
things that need to be generated differently,
I have local PPF overrides/CNTL files
Brian Nielsen wrote:
I doubt DIRMAINT or VMSECURE will let you do this, but if you do the
directory by hand it works fine.
I've found with VM:Secure that I can just put a comment line before the
MDISK statement(s) to document their use as necessary.
Kim Goldenberg
State of NJ - OIT
That's a good question. Was wondering what all of you with 5
systems
do about that. Right now we maintain them individually (it wasn't
that
long ago that we had 1 system). Now I'm hearing rumblings about maybe
adding 2-4 more systems for capacity/availability reasons... If we go
from 6
So I guess my memory of RSCS as an IPL'able system
not running under GCS (or any other o/s) is from VM/SP 3?
That would have been RSCS V1. RSCS V2 was the first to require GCS.
Best Regards,
Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development
I also took awhile for VM/VTAM to convert from the old method to SES/E
installation.
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I've done that too, but if you use the command to transfer a MDISK to
another userid you lose the comment that was associated with it.
Brian Nielsen
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:02:15 -0400, Kim Goldenberg
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Brian Nielsen wrote:
I doubt DIRMAINT or VMSECURE will let you do
If what I really want to accomplish is to leave my current VTAM
installation intact and use VM/SES to load another copy of VTAM from
tape without disturbing my existing copy.
I am not VM/SES fluent and any advice is appreciated.
Regards,
___
Jim Hughes
Impossible is just an
We have a new ZVM 5.2 system. The VTAM we are using came from ZVM 3.1
minidisks.
We have a product tape with VTAM on it. We want to load this VTAM from
tape to disk and not disturb what we already have in production.
How would I go about doing this?
Thanks for the reply.
I call this Psuedo-standard labels because of the lack of HDR1, EOF1, EOV
labels. This has worked well enough for at least 12 years of successful
Disaster Recovery exercises. The only problem I have hit is remembering t
o
IPL the tape drive twice to get to my standalone DDR program that leads m
y
Mike Walter wrote:
Running VM:Secure *with rules*, one can certainly use the passwords
(since they are ignored) as comments. All the passwords, for example
we have:
* VM:Mgr 2.8 G0507 SP06 dated 08/11/2005 CDTAPE VMW1OF2 VMW2OF2
MDISK B191 3390-3 3185 15 VMPP04 MR * VMR191 - Local
I tell the DR vendor assistant to IPL device that I have my initial
sysres backup tape loaded on. I run ONE standalone DDR to restore MY sysr
es
and then IPL my sysres to restore the rest of the system. Our MVS people
use
the vendor's floor system to load a PDS of job control information and
Mike Walter wrote:
Ed,
Paging and Spooling I/O uses seldom ending channel programs for good
performance. If any other I/O happens to that device, it interrupts the
paging or spooling channel program, decreasing performance. Since you
have noticed that you need more page space, you must be
It doesn't really matter, other than how the ipl failure message is
displayed. On bare metal, at least on our 9672 vintage machine (7060-H55),
ipling on bare metal will make the HMC screen turn red. On 2nd level, you
see the IPL unit failure message on the screen. Our D/R dumps are done on
On Thursday, 06/08/2006 at 12:45 AST, Kim Goldenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interestingly enough, that sort of code is being removed from z/OS, due
to the use of caching controlers and SAN DASD, where the disk is no
loger one physical device, and it is just as fast to redrive the I/O
than
Hello Shimon,
It is ok I am a HE!
I like you idea and makes sense. I would, also, like to thank everyone
that brought up ideas and the like.
I am ok with waiting to IPL. We will do an IPL during the machine
upgrade which is a planned event.
Thanks to you all
Some day you'd need to learn a bit about VMSES/E... It is not that hard
once you get the basics.
When installing from tape, you are asked if you want to make an override
or accept the defaults. With a good response, a panel will be displayed
where you can define the minidisk/SFS dir to
I am trying to compile a DB2 program on a Z/OS v1.6 machine running DB2V8
.
The program I am trying to compile is using the CALL ATTACH FACILTY but f
or
some reason the link step is added DSNELI and DSNALI to the load module h
as
anyone ever seen this behavior before.
Any help would be
Quoting Stein, Bernard J - Wlkes-Barre, PA - Contractor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Return to sender. Adressee no longer resides at this address.
:-)
(Keep it up and postage will be due. :-D)
Leland
And of course if you're running 2nd level you can use CMS to forward spac
e
the tape to the appropriate location before you IPL it. It's faster and
you won't see any IPL failure messages.
Too bad CP only provides command to REWIND the tape to the load point and
none to forward/backward
So IPLing the tape 5 times (or 7 times) is a cumbersome way of doing a FSF.
What happens when you IPL a HDR1, you get some kind of error right? The tape
at that point has positioned itself at the next file and you do the process over again.
We've been trying to decide if we want to use STD
Leland,
I used it for over a year but recently turned it off and went back to using
staticly-defined share settings. I found it to be generally sluggish to
respond to changing workloads (although I made some mods to make it
moreso). In practice, my observation was that when the system got busy,
So, how do you folks feel about VMRM? Does it work as advertised?
Sort of. IF your workload changes in the ways that VMRM understands, then it is
actually pretty effective. It's not WLM in that it doesn't adjust task
priorities the same way, and the formulas used to calculate when it does
On Thursday, 06/08/2006 at 03:54 EST, Mark Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In practice, my observation was that when the system got busy, it
tended to raise every managed virtual machines' SHARE setting to REL
1
(because they weren't getting the resources they needed). Conversely, if
How about TAPE FSF ( VDEV is 181 as a default)
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:27 PM
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And of course if
How about TAPE FSF ( VDEV is 181 as a default)
TAPE is a CMS command, not a CP command.
Thanks all. That was enough to keep me away for now. I don't understand tuning
well enough to recognize problems that VMRM may be causing. (Heck, I can't even
tell when I mess it up. ;-))
So, I'll wait until some of you more edge-livers kick the tires a bit more.
Thanks again,
Leland
But from second level cms:
Tape FSF N
CP term con 3270
Cp IPL CL LOADPARM CUU
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: DDR to standard
That was my point, 2nd level you have to use CMS to do the tape
poisitoning, there is not a CP command. If you're logged onto a userid
that doesn't normally have access to CMS (ex. a z/OS guest) there is extr
a
work to do to get CMS running (such as linking the MAINT 190 disk) just t
o
You do not have to use CMS. IPL commands will work just like loading from the
HMC.
IPL 181
Read VOL1 label; Get a message
IPL 181
Read HDR1; Get a message
IPL 181
Read HDR2 and get a message
IPL 181
Cross the tape mark and get a message
IPL 181
And you are there
If your tape just has a VOL1
Ipling a HDR1 gives you an IPL Unit Error. That's most of what I
see. There is one other ipl error message that you see once in a while,
but any error comes back right away. If you really do hit something you
want, there is no error message and then you start giving the program some
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