Raymond Noal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :-
SHUTDOWN processing starts and the last line displayed is for DISABLE
ALL DEVICES.
We have had a problem with various versions of z/VM 5.x (we are on 5.4
currently) where the DISABLE ALL DEVICES took an extremely long time on a
1st level system. When I
Dear all,
Some weeks ago I was busy setting up an ISFC connection between my two
z/VMs. Meanwhile I succeeded in this task.
However, I have still some quesions. Maybe I miss some documentation but
z/VM connectivity manual is not too specific for my taste.
I have established a CTC connection
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Florian Bilek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have established a CTC connection between the systems. This connection has
one CTC address on each side used in the ACTIVATE ISLINK.
When I look now to the Query ISLINK command, it is mentioned there duplex
links. Can
Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :-
I have ordered and downloaded zVM 5.4 to an ftp server. Looking at the
Guide for Automated Installation and Service manual I see instructions
for install from DVD and Tape. Can someone point me to the instructions
to install zVM (First level) from an ftp
Colin Allinson wrote:
*Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote :-
I have ordered and downloaded zVM 5.4 to an ftp server. Looking at the
Guide for Automated Installation and Service manual I see instructions
for install from DVD and Tape. Can someone point me to the instructions
to install
Alan said a couple of weeks ago that setting a user to NOPASSWORD
would completely remove the password and phrase and that these are
true:
- No one can logon directly to or use the id for authentication
- The user can still be XAUTOLOGed
- The user will never be revoked due to inactivity or too
Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :-
Actually we will be attempting to install zVM 5.4 on a new lpar so we
will be using the integrated 3270 console on the HMC to preform the
initial install. For additional fun we will be attempting to install
everything directly to FCP DASD not ECKD.
OK -
Colin Allinson wrote:
*Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote :-
Actually we will be attempting to install zVM 5.4 on a new lpar so we
will be using the integrated 3270 console on the HMC to preform the
initial install. For additional fun we will be attempting to install
everything
If we are just re-booting we just INIT6 on the Linux guest. I am setting
up something so that when we take everything down for maintenance and
such I want to do it from VM.
Thank You,
Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
z/OS z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning
Cell -
Look in the Getting Started with Linux on System z book, chapter 9.
That may have what you want.
David Dean
Information Systems
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR)
Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote:
If we are just re-booting we just INIT6 on the Linux guest. I am setting
up something so that when we take everything down for maintenance and
such I want to do it from VM.
Like Larry said, the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN support is the best command for the job.
I have ordered and downloaded zVM 5.4 to an ftp server. Looking at the
Guide for Automated Installation and Service manual I see instructions
for install from DVD and Tape. Can someone point me to the instructions
to install zVM (First level) from an ftp server?
--
Mark Jacobs
Time Customer
Thanks all. I will work this out and come with something that will work
for us.
Thanks again for all of the responses.
Thank You,
Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
z/OS z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning
Cell - 443 632-4191
Work - 410 786-0386
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Thanks Mike
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 6:26 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Need some help with REXX EXEC
Larry,
He is using CP SIGNAL, hence the
I know that you can avoid a userid being revoked due to failed logon
attempts by setting it as NOPASSWORD (when this is an autologged service
machine or a target of LOGONBY).
Does the same apply to prevent users becoming revoked due to the defined
period of inactivity being exceeded?
We have
Terry - Just wondering if your Linux guests actually logoff after shutting
down from a signal? From what you seem to be doing in the code (trapping
the shutdown msgs) it 'sounds' like maybe they aren't -- otherwise, you
could simply do a QUERY USERID until you get RC45 for all the guests.. If
On Wednesday, 10/08/2008 at 08:07 EDT, Bruce Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Alan said a couple of weeks ago that setting a user to NOPASSWORD
would completely remove the password and phrase and that these are
true:
- No one can logon directly to or use the id for authentication
- The user
Hi,
I've been a bad systems programmer and might have deleted the definition of
MDISK 123 under MAINT! :-(
None of the backups I've got have a definition in their either. Not sure if
I've deleted it before backing up or if it's not normally in there (seems odd).
Does MAINT have a definition
It's a full pack overlay for your RES pack. I think you need it for
DIRECTXA to work.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Guest, Darren
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:50 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: MAINT's 123
MAINT 123 is usually a full-pack minidisk that covers the volume that has
the DRCT area on it (very often the 5xxRES pack). To be sure Q ALLOC DRCT to
determine where the directory lives.
On 10/8/08 9:50 AM, Guest, Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I've been a bad systems programmer and
MDISK 123 3390 000 END 540RES MR
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Guest, Darren
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I've been a bad systems programmer and might have deleted the definition of
MDISK 123 under MAINT! :-(
None of the backups I've got have a definition in their either. Not sure if
*I* double-checked with TPTB and, the way things are today, the user
WILL be revoked for inactivity.
It's on the list of things he WANTs to fix, but it's not on the FIXED
list. And other than setting the password or logging on (with a valid
password), you aren't going to reset the Last
Hi,
I´m running z/VM 5.4.0 with RSU 0801 in production and no problems have
happened until now.
q cplevel
z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 0801 (64-bit)
Generated at 10/01/08 11:06:12 EDT
IPL at 10/07/08 11:40:31 EDT
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:44:18
Abraços / Best regards
Edi Lopes
Are you sure? In that case I must reopen my issue with IBM because it
doesn't work like that for me. And even IBM told me works as designed.
When I issue a CP SIGNAL I must specify the time with the within option.
The linux machine will be logged off, either by itself within the
specified time or
Jack Woehr wrote:
Instead of a REXX exec sending CP SIGNAL you have two alternatives,
methinks:
1. You could access the SMAPI function Image_Deactivate via PigIron
http://pigiron.sourceforge.net
* E.g., in PigIron's test cases it reads CALL testing
Rich Smrcina wrote:
Doesn't the SMAPI deactivate just do SIGNAL SHUTDOWN?
You tell me :) I write the Java / OORexx bridge (PigIron) on the PC
side. Never read
the Rexx code that makes up that part of SMAPI. Yet. Guess I'll go LOGON
and take a look!
--
Jack J. Woehr#
Rich Smrcina wrote:
Doesn't the SMAPI deactivate just do SIGNAL SHUTDOWN?
Besides, I'm a PC-opensource-Unix hack, and I'd definitely go the ssh
route by instinct
and habitude. Let me tell you, my mainframe buddies, shutdown now to
Unix means
Shut the $%^ down RIGHT NOW. :-)
--
Jack J.
Why can I not disconnect my second level zvm test system like I do
other users?
David Dean
Information Systems
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Because it's running a hipervisor and you are _probably_ logged onto a
userid on that system.
So...
1) Be sure that the PROFILE EXEC that's run when you logon to IPL that 2nd
level system contains: 'SET RUN ON'
(and that nothing has reverted that).
2) From the 1st level userid that you
The shutdown happening isn't a function of being on the mainframe .. If
Linux is configured properly - the SIGNAL will amount to a 'shutdown -h
now'. If that process is getting hung up - then I'd say it was a Linux (or
whatever guest OS) issue. I'm not exactly thrilled with the whole timeout
Do you issue a SET RUN ON before you disconnect?
Larry
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S)
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:07 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: disconnect second level zvm
Why
Scott Rohling wrote:
The shutdown happening isn't a function of being on the mainframe ..
If Linux is configured properly - the SIGNAL will amount to a
'shutdown -h now'.
Then Linux will shutdown, regardless of logged-in users, processes
running, etc., though the exact time required to do so
In inittab where you catch ctl-alt-del is where you define the action on
Signal Shutdown. To log off the virtual machine after a halt, use
vmpoff=LOGOFF in your IPL parameters.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Woehr
Sent:
Quay, Jonathan (IHG) wrote:
In inittab where you catch ctl-alt-del is where you define the action on
Signal Shutdown. To log off the virtual machine after a halt, use
vmpoff=LOGOFF in your IPL parameters.
-
Cool, was wondering how that all was tied together. Makes sense.
--
Jack J. Woehr
Quay, Jonathan (IHG) wrote:
In inittab where you catch ctl-alt-del is where you define the action on
Signal Shutdown. To log off the virtual machine after a halt, use
vmpoff=LOGOFF in your IPL parameters.
SIGNAL SHUTDOWN will log the machine off after the timer expires or when the machine is
Colin,
I would greatly appreciate it if you could provide any additional
information on the problem you had during SHUTDOWN. Did IBM give you a
PTF or what? Is there something you can give me to find this on IBMLINK?
Doing a search for 'SHUTDOWN' on IBMLINK did not provide any help.
I thank
We are starting a major cleanup of old very old userids so I wish to see if
I can review SFS directory entries to see when they were last referenced. We
have VMSECURE installed and we know when the userid was last accessed but we
do not know if the data is being accessed by other userids.
For
Scott,
Yes there are shutting down as I expect them to do.
Thank You,
Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
z/OS z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning
Cell - 443 632-4191
Work - 410 786-0386
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: The IBM z/VM
Hans,
For SFS, take a look at the ALLDATES option of LISTFILE. You're correct
that there's no date of last access for minidisk files. You could scan
your VM:Secure audit files to look for links to the minidisk. That
won't tell you what files were accessed, but it will tell you that
someone is
Hans,
Yes, SFS does keep date of last reference internally. LISTFILE * * fm
(ALLDATES on the directory in question will show you the date of last
reference for each file. Look at the LREF-DT column. I don't think SFS
keeps the date that a directory was last accessed, but if someone
accesses a
As long as you are doing it manually, you can effectively disable
individual directories or files by use of the REVOKE command.
While you are cleaning up the SFS, you ought to consider cleaning out
ghost authorizations. There may be many authorizations granted to
userids that no longer exist.
Thanks Dennis. I did see it once I issued the command. I'm writing a small
rexx program to extract the information I need.
Hans
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Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L
Sent: October 8, 2008 4:13 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject:
On 10/8/2008 at 2:23 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Smrcina
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-snip-
SIGNAL SHUTDOWN will log the machine off after the timer expires or when the
machine is
done shutting down, vmpoff is not required.
Not necessarily. I just signed onto one of my Linux
Mark Post wrote:
On 10/8/2008 at 2:23 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Smrcina
.
01: HCPGSP2629I The virtual machine is placed in CP mode due to a SIGP stop from
CPU 01.
00: HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 00020001 8000 0FFF
The guest is still logged on, and
At my shop, we use OSA-ICC all the time. Works great.
There is one feature of OSA-ICC that sucks ...
It does not close the telnet session when DISCONN from VM.
(or when logging off) This is where 'logoff hold' or 'disc hold'
are really handy in a direct (VM TCP/IP) telnet session.
How come
I have a pmr open for similar problem (on a full fcp/scsi install)
60677,000,818
laurent DUPIN
IBM China STG Lab Services
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+86 (0)10 63618720 - 13921771212
From:
Raymond Noal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
10/09/2008 02:32 AM
Subject:
Re: z/VM 5.4.0 -
If you use DIRMAINT (or alike)t, DIRMAINT needs a 123 that covers the whole
pack, and MAINT no longer needs it.
I the stone age, it was often a drama when MAINT lost its 123 in de
directory, now you can use DEFINE MDISK 123 to recover.
2008/10/8 Neale Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAINT 123 is
I'm seeing something very strange when I ipl a 2nd level VM system. I
first noticed it on z/VM 5.4, but this a.m. saw that z/VM 5.3 works the
same way. The Guide for Automated Installation and Service, which I was
following closely since I was installing from a DVD by way of an FTP
server,
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