Thanks... That actually makes sense. :-)
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In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
Bob Bolch wrote:
The support for the System Management API servers is enhanced in
5.4.0
to
use this writable saved segment for inter-process communications,
rather
than use SFS to communicate between the SMAPI request servers and
the
worker
machines.
I wonder what prompted them to do
Hello Franz,
Please check the QUICKDSP of the VSE/VTAM system.
It seems to me that VTAM (any version) does some things that make z/VM
think that the system should be taken off the VM Dispatch list only to
be put back on almost immediately.
What was the setting on the VM/VTAM service machine?
Do you have a performance monitor that can help you narrow down if a specific VSE
machine is the culprit?
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Hello listers,
I have installed zVSE 4.1.1 und zVM 5.3 (Level 0703) at a customer where
we replaced vm/vtam with an additional 4th zVSE machine with only vtam
Hello Edward,
There is no vm/vtam any longer. It is replaced by a vse system. All vse
systems run with quickdsp on.
The share of the vm users is in order vtam-vse (VSEC), production vse
(VSEP), 2nd production VSE (VSEV) and test VSE (VSET).
What do you think should I try to change?
P.s. I
They still retain SFS as a requirement for implementing a shared logging
facility for the SMAPI servers, so none of that complexity is alleviated. I
suspect that the SFS based queuing had to be based on polling for a
communications file, where the writable segment based CMSMT-IPC driver can
use
There is no perfomance monitor. I had written a rexx procedure which
issues an IND USER for each machine every minute and calculates from the
difference to the value of the minute before the cpu consumption for
this single machine. IBM in Germany (in Person Hans Joachim Ebert,
meanwhile a
On Monday, 11/24/2008 at 11:06 EST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
They still retain SFS as a requirement for implementing a shared
logging
facility for the SMAPI servers, so none of that complexity is
alleviated.
Ugh. Well, that frankly sucks. Having simple UIs depend on one of
I'd like more reliance on SFS for our own stuff.
But it needs to be highly available (run on more than 1 VM system at a
time).
It also needs to work over IP in a vendor supported manner.
Marcy
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I concur, especially the bit about working over IP. ISFC over IP has
beeen a long time in not coming. The efforts to kill VTAM are certainly
going better than the efforts to kill VM. When they finally succeed,
what happens to ISFC and remote access of SFS? There should be a
replacement in the
Yes, let's all thank them. Without their dedication and efforts, I am
sure that one of the multiple attempts to kill one of the best systems
ever created would have worked. Besides, Alan's image depends on them
:-) (Actually, Alan I do include you in the ranks of those who we should
thank.)
We tried to convince IBM during the 5.4.0 ESP that it was more
appropriate
to statically define the NAMESAVE record for this segment in the
source
directory entry configuration files for the SMAPI user IDs and
document
the
use of that segment, rather than dynamically (and
My guess is that this VM system is second level (probably under LPAR, but a
host VM would yield the same).
The involuntary CPU waits imposed by the first level (LPAR or CP) is not
known to IND LOAD, it is taken as busy. If the first level host decides
your zVM gets e.g. 50% of the entire system,
I've been beating my head against the wall for a week now trying to
figure out what I'm doing wrong, but I can't get it figured out, so I'm
appealing to the fine folks on this list for help.
I have a new OSA port all to myself and it's connected to a trunk port
on the network switch. I've talked
On 11/24/08 1:06 PM, John Franciscovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My vote's with Bob. Hard-coding stuff like this seems like a user
requirement in the making -- somebody is going to want to have control
over the name. Same problem in DFSMS with hard-coding VMSYS:.
Just to clarify, the name of
On Monday, 11/24/2008 at 01:54 EST, KEETON Dave * OR SDC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been beating my head against the wall for a week now trying to
figure out
what I'm doing wrong, but I can't get it figured out, so I'm appealing
to the
fine folks on this list for help.
I have a new
I don't think the use of SFS is really as major effort or impediment at new sites.I've
seen several client adapt it for their situations with little problem; although it would
be nice if IBM gave us a MKPOOL tool as DB suggested...
I'm much more concerned at this point about IBM
Thanks, Alan.
To answer your question, I am now able to ping the TCPIP stack address
(after making the change you recommended). I am still unable to ping the
gateway, however.
I suppose I'll go back to beating my head against the wall...
Dave
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From: The IBM z/VM
I'm much more concerned at this point about IBM introducing new functions
into VM without
adequate documentation. Yes, the VM DCCS name can be changed, but to
seem that it can be,
pone must actually read the comments in the configuration file; it's not
mentioned in the
manual at all.
Thanks for the reply Mike. Ok so in your example if I logon with 2G and I do
something that requires more than 2G I would need to issue CP DEFINE STORAGE to
increase my storage above 2GB but can't request more than 16GB correct? z/VM
will not dynamically add more memory up to 16GB?
David
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/25/207211
IBM Invests In MySQL/Oracle Competitor
I was thinking when Sun bought MySQL, Is IBM going to run out and buy
Postgres?
Postgres is very nice, at some technical levels way cool from MySQL.
I've used both many times.
You care if
do a cp q vswitch details from tcpmaint. Determine:
1. is the linux machine in the list with an ip address?
2. determine the name of the current vswitch controller. From TCPMAINT:
NETSTAT ARP ALL TCPIP name of current controller
The netstat arp command may need to be issued twice.
Does the
Hi, David.
Juarez, David T. wrote:
Thanks for the reply Mike. Ok so in your example if I logon with 2G and I do
something
that requires more than 2G I would need to issue CP DEFINE STORAGE to increase
my
storage above 2GB but can't request more than 16GB correct? z/VM will not
dynamically
command should be
NETSTAT ARP ALL TCP name of controller machine
David
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of KEETON Dave * OR SDC
Sent: Mon 11/24/2008 5:29 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VLAN-Aware VSWITCH Linux Guest
To reply to the David Juarez's post, and clarify Dave Jones' reply,
Dave Jones' reply is correct. It just leaves off the dynamic memory
change up to the mstor (16G in the example) available via the CP DEFINE
STORage command.
That dynamic change is gone the moment that userid is logged off,
I have a question regarding the translation of the left and right square
brackets. Files we created under Z/VM 5.2 using the square brackets are
displaying incorrectly.
Should ascii x'5B' translate to EBCDIC x'AD'?
Should ascii x'5D' translate to EBCDIC x'BD'?
The green/yellow card
Thanks for the reply, David.
Yes, doing a VSWITCH DETAILS from TCPMAINT shows the linux machine's IP
address. The output of NETSTAT ARP ALL TCP DTCVSW1 shows the arp cache
for TCPIP and for the linux machine.
An IFCONFIG in Linux indicates the virtual MAC address for the interface
ETH0.
I'm
Post the results of a q vswitch details, please.
And also route and ifconfig from linux.
Marcy
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Yes, and it would be nice if there were easy to use and remember
administration and user tools. The syntax of some of the commands is not
the most natural that I have ever seen. MODIFY USER nnn FOR userid is
a good example. It reads like the userid is nnn. I do not know where
anyone got the idea
from root what does iptables-save show? Is iptables somehow getting started on
the linux guest?
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of KEETON Dave * OR SDC
Sent: Mon 11/24/2008 7:10 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VLAN-Aware VSWITCH
On Monday, 11/24/2008 at 06:33 EST, Hughes, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I have a question regarding the translation of the left and right square
brackets. Files we created under Z/VM 5.2 using the square brackets are
displaying incorrectly.
By created do you mean with XEDIT? Or via
The LOGONBY statement in the directory is limited to 8 users. I have a client
that wants to have, say, 16 in the list.
The system is fairly knuckle scraping, i.e., no RACF, DIRMAINT, products, etc.
This isn't helping, as if DIRMAINT was there we could do a dynamic directory
update.
I have
David,
You didn't say anything about the userid that they're trying to log on
to. If all they need are some privileges that you don't want to grant
to their personal userids, can you have two, with eight LOGONBY users on
each, e.g. MAINT1 and MAINT2? Obviously, that won't work for some
things.
On Monday, 11/24/2008 at 08:01 EST, David Kreuter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The LOGONBY statement in the directory is limited to 8 users. I have a
client
that wants to have, say, 16 in the list.
The system is fairly knuckle scraping, i.e., no RACF, DIRMAINT,
products,
etc. This isn't
ISFC uses CTC connections. It doesn't use VTAM at all. Richard is
thinking of AVS. The major problem with ISFC is that not everyone has
channel extension equipment between data centers. A supported
IPGATE-type solution is needed before VTAM can go away.
As to the alleged difficulties of
On Monday, 11/24/2008 at 07:13 EST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yes, and it would be nice if there were easy to use and remember
administration and user tools. The syntax of some of the commands is not
the most natural that I have ever seen. MODIFY USER nnn FOR userid is
a good
Amen, Brother.
Jim
Schuh, Richard wrote:
Yes, let's all thank them. Without their dedication and efforts, I am
sure that one of the multiple attempts to kill one of the best systems
ever created would have worked. Besides, Alan's image depends on them
:-) (Actually, Alan I do include you in the
OTOH, completely outside the box, you could write a CMS that would allow one of
the authorized users, from their ID to contact (maybe SMSG) a server that has
access to the USER DIRECT, check that the target userid is not already logged
on, change one of the LOGONBY IDs in the USER DIRECT to
Looking at the original stated problem, 'not enough text showing', I'm
wondering if you can't see enough at one time, or is it just too slow moving
through many lines. A few solutions come to mind, depending upon your need.
Increase screen size:
You can change the model of the screen to
On Monday, 11/24/2008 at 11:32 EST, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
OTOH, completely outside the box, you could write a CMS that would allow
one of
the authorized users, from their ID to contact (maybe SMSG) a server
that has
access to the USER DIRECT, check that the target userid
I once wrote a local mod to HCPRPI or whatever (I am at home
now) which allowed LOGONBY to a non-ESM system we have, based
on the ACIGROUP of the logging on user. The acceptable
ACIGROUPS were hardcoded in the mod, so you might not be
happy with my choices ;-) but if you want the code I can
If it is about comparing two files in XEDIT, have a look at the
COMPAIR package, it highlights changed lines, in split screen mode.
You can enter ,somecmd to execute that command in both screens. PF2
and PF14 can be used to jump from one difference to the other.
I stole the idea from COMPAIR
If it isn't using dedicated CPUs every VM system running in an LPAR can
have the same 'involuntary wait' problem as a VM running second level.
The point is, in both cases, that the system doesn't have 100% of a CPU
available but only the part LPAR management (or the higher CP level) let
it use.
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