problem on 5.4 DirMaint and RACF

2009-06-23 Thread sunny . hu
Hello folks: I was confused to setup dirmaint and racf. Just can't let RACF add user profile when issue dirm add useid. Can someone tell me what are the steps? Or which book I should read? Thanks Sunny Hu This message is intended only for the addressee. It may contain privileged

Re: RSU 802 / Problem with DIRMAINT and RACF

2008-12-26 Thread Alan Altmark
configuration. Do you have any hints how to analyse the problem deeper? Is there some trace possibility? Or should I simply open an PMR? The DIRMAINT-RACF connector has changed significantly in z/VM 5.4. It is referenced in the Summary of Changes in the DIRMAINT Admin Guide. Though

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-17 Thread Peter . Webb
: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture In order to be more democratic and accommodating, we could have a CANCEL button that said: CANCEL not allowed. You must press OK. Press CANCEL to press OK. Press OK

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, there's nothing wrong with building a test system and then copying that into production in whatever way you wish. I'm not going to dictate to anyone how to get your system into Final Real Production. So we're not

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Feller, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone talks about a second level system. Our second level system is actually an lpar. We created a small tech support lpar that we first apply maintenance to. We also use it to test new z/VM upgrades. We do run a

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-16 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I always user SERVICE and PUT2PROD, but I use them on the 2nd lvl test system. They don't come near the systems that real people, i.e. users, use. As far as an ESM goes, I have RACF, so that's a moot point for me. I realize that VM development has limited resources and I recognize that VM

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/16/2008 at 09:39 EDT, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, there's nothing wrong with building a test system and then copying that into production in whatever way you wish. I'm not going to

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-16 Thread David Boyes
No. You'll also have the opportunity to delay the nag message for 3 minutes or 14.5 hours (your choice). The messages will go to the system operator, but in a way that is not visible to system automation. ;-) And we are Marie of Roumania. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-16 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:36 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture On Wednesday, 07/16/2008 at 09:39 EDT, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-16 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Wednesday, 07/16/2008 at 09:39 EDT, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, there's nothing wrong with building a test system and then copying that into

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/16/2008 at 12:15 EDT, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. You'll also have the opportunity to delay the nag message for 3 minutes or 14.5 hours (your choice). The messages will go to the system operator, but in a way that is not visible to system automation.

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-16 Thread Mike Walter
maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture On Wednesday, 07/16/2008 at 12:15 EDT, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. You'll also have the opportunity to delay the nag message for 3 minutes or 14.5 hours (your choice). The messages will go to the system operator

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-16 Thread Ivica Brodaric
In order to be more democratic and accommodating, we could have a CANCEL button that said: CANCEL not allowed. You must press OK. Press CANCEL to press OK. Press OK to CANCEL the CANCEL and then press OK. Maybe expand the choice with one more option: If you still wish to press CANCEL to

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-15 Thread Kris Buelens
is actually an lpar. I should have mentioned that we did apply the RSU to that lpar first. We went through the same steps on that lpar. I was just trying to see how other people handle the maintenance process with RACF and DIRMAINT. Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-15 Thread Colin Allinson
Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :- I work like Jim: never PUT2PROD. Copy the runtime minidisks from the install user (eg 5VMTCP30) to alternate addresses of the active user (eg TCPMAINT). When the time is right, the mdisk addresses are swapped. This process is first tested on the SW

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Colin Allinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Jim said - there are many different ways of doing maintenance. However, the guiding principal is always to have a thought out process where you can back out easily. The requirement may actually be that those in

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-15 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
, 2008 01:28 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture I work like Jim: never PUT2PROD. Copy the runtime minidisks from the install user (eg 5VMTCP30) to alternate addresses of the active user (eg TCPMAINT

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-15 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/15/2008 at 04:39 EDT, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I work like Jim: never PUT2PROD. Copy the runtime minidisks from the install user (eg 5VMTCP30) to alternate addresses of the active user (eg TCPMAINT). When the time is right, the mdisk addresses are swapped. This

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking down the road, I see a rough ride for people who don't use SERVICE and PUT2PROD. Ugh. When I noticed that PUT2PROD would simply force the TCPIP service machine without any check warning, I decided this was just

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-15 Thread Feller, Paul
Thanks for all the replies. It has given us something to think about. We have only one more lpar to do the RSU on, so for now we will follow the same process we did for the first two lpars. We are a zLinux only shop. No big CMS usage or other stuff. We use a VSWITCH for the zLinux network

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-15 Thread Thomas Kern
Another LPAR is just as good as a second level system if you are already familiar with using LPARs. The communications between LPARs requires a bit more hardware but in a large shop with z/OS LPARs, there is usually enough OSAs or CTC connections. /Tom Kern Feller, Paul wrote: Thanks for

Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-14 Thread Feller, Paul
We have been a z/VM shop for about three years and have applied RSU maintenance during those three years. We currently are running z/VM 5.3 and are working on applying RSU0801. This is the first time we have done an RSU with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture. We are wondering how other people

Re: Question on how RSU maintenance is being handled with DIRMAINT and RACF in the picture

2008-07-14 Thread Feller, Paul
Interesting.. Our second level system is actually an lpar. I should have mentioned that we did apply the RSU to that lpar first. We went through the same steps on that lpar. I was just trying to see how other people handle the maintenance process with RACF and DIRMAINT. Paul Feller AIT

Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
disclaimer - I do have this reported to IBM I have a challenge with Dirmaint and RACF Doing a DIRM ADD userid results in the account being created but an MDISK or AMDISK statements in the userid direct are not fully processed. By that I mean that the directory knows about the disks but when I

Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Dec 12, 2007 9:47 PM, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else seen this and/or have any insight? Have you configured DIRMAINT to bring directory changes online immediately? I believe default is to postpone it to some inconvenient time. RACF defaults are such that the user

Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. From: Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 12/12/2007 01:04 PM Subject: Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Kris Buelens
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 12/12/2007 01:04 PM Subject: Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect On Dec 12, 2007 9:47 PM, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else seen this and/or have any insight? Have you configured DIRMAINT to bring directory changes

Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/12/2007 at 03:48 EST, Lionel B. Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: disclaimer - I do have this reported to IBM I have a challenge with Dirmaint and RACF Doing a DIRM ADD userid results in the account being created but an MDISK or AMDISK statements in the userid direct

Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect

2007-12-12 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. From: Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 12/12/2007 01:25 PM Subject: Re: Dirmaint and RACF - a disconnect Rob gave the correct

Dirmaint and RACF

2006-07-19 Thread David Pitner
Hello List, Im sure Im overlooking the obvious. I have one of my VM LPARS running z/VM 5.1.0 and another new LPAR running z/VM 5.2.0. Im setting up DIRMAINT on the new 5.2.0 LPAR and I cannot find where to configure DIRMAINT to use RACF instead of the VM directory for password

Re: Dirmaint and RACF

2006-07-19 Thread David Pitner
Nevermind list, I finally found it. Exit DVHDA0. From: David Pitner Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:58 AM To: VM Listserv (IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) Subject: Dirmaint and RACF Hello List, Im sure Im overlooking the obvious. I have one of my VM LPARS running z/VM 5.1.0