"FILE". (And I always have
'autosave' turned off.)
Right now I'm starting to do more in the VM world and I find that by using
PF7/PF8 all I succeed in doing losing my place in my document.
Going the other way, I keep wanting to use "X" in ISPF 3.4 ... and my
and I find that by using
PF7/PF8 all I succeed in doing losing my place in my document.
Going the other way, I keep wanting to use "X" in ISPF 3.4 ... and my dataset
just disappears!
So, SCROLL is destined to be assigned to all the pf keys I expect to scroll
the screen and make it beh
Group,
I have been looking through the ISPF Dialog Developer's Guide and Reference
and I am having a problem with my help panel. My Primary panel has &ZPRIM=YES
and .HELP=SSBVPSH. From my primary panel I enter PF1 and I get my help panel.
My panel looks like this:
)ATTR
)B
I have been asked if there is a utility that converts ISPF menus into XMENU/E
format. Can anyone tell me if there is one available? I know of none.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
Back to first principles:
1) Can you replicate the *failure* so you'll know whether you've fixed
it or made it worse?
2) It's important to understand how the guests detect updates. If it's
via a handshake, can you simulate that?
I like Harry's almost-atomic update via COPY then RENAME. It wouldn
e of about 1,000,000
(compressed) 80b records to as many as 5 million or more in a busy day before
it is compressed again during nightly maintenance.
I don't know if ISPF/PDF will function correctly or at all if access to the
MACLIB is globally changed to read-only. I may be able to test that th
nance issue of the past 15 years is now of
relatively
> low priority.
>
> What I'd REALLY like to know, as I've mentioned, is if read-only access
to an
> ISPF/PDF MACLIB-based application and functionality (sans updates) can
be
> achieved. Even though the old app is
Brian Nielsen
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:28:46 -0700, Llewellyn, Mark
wrote:
>What I'd REALLY like to know, as I've mentioned, is if read-only access
to an ISPF/PDF MACLIB-based application and functionality (sans updates)
can be achieved. Even though the old app is being supplan
ned, is if read-only access to an
ISPF/PDF MACLIB-based application and functionality (sans updates) can be
achieved. Even though the old app is being supplanted, users will still wish
to access pieces of it for historical reference. We simply want the MACLIB
permanently frozen, but read-acces
>MACLIB back to the prod disk seems to be where it can get hit.
>Users can access this old app anytime they want - we can break the links,
>which would cause them some grief, but a link could be established
>during this process.
>A related question is whether an ISPF/PDF-based app
the
> compressed MACLIB back to the prod disk seems to be where it can get hit.
> Users can access this old app anytime they want - we can break the links,
> which would cause them some grief, but a link could be established during
> this process.
>
> A related question is wheth
can
access this old app anytime they want - we can break the links, which would
cause them some grief, but a link could be established during this process.
A related question is whether an ISPF/PDF-based application can be placed in a
"read-only" mode. When this old app is retired,
ild
and nobody wants to do maintenance."
- Kurt Vonnegut
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:32:49 -0500, Mark Llewellyn
wrote:
>Any veteran ISPF/PDF SMEs out there?
>
>We have an ancient and soon-to-be decommissioned ISPF/PDF app
alf Of Les Koehler
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:34 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance
Explain the problem to management and let them decide if they
want to Bet The Business on the current exposure. If not, let
them announce to everyone when IS
K.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance
>
> Explain the problem to management and let them decide if they
> want to Bet The Business on the current exposure. If not, let
> them announce to everyone when ISPF will be unavailable and
> FORCE all the users and ta
A straw at which I cannot grasp.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of P S
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:40 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: I
Advice that Chuckie would be proud of :-)
Regards,
Richard Schuh
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Frazier
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:28 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Sub
Explain the problem to management and let them decide if
they want to Bet The Business on the current exposure. If
not, let them announce to everyone when ISPF will be
unavailable and FORCE all the users and take the ISPF disk
away by whatever means are available (I'm retired and was
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
> Considering that it is ISPF, I would be worried that taking down the SVM
> would simply kill all of the protective mechanisms that ISPF employs to keep
> the users from trashing the file because of the MW links. In the a
Schuh, Richard wrote:
The developers of the application chose to have the data maintained in a
single, ever-increasing, highly used, frequently updated ISPF library, with no
maintenance routines, and no good way to identify obsolete members. The
application was already firmly entrenched when
Considering that it is ISPF, I would be worried that taking down the SVM would
simply kill all of the protective mechanisms that ISPF employs to keep the
users from trashing the file because of the MW links. In the absence of
knowledge about its purpose, I would not suggest blindly taking it
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Llewellyn, Mark wrote:
> The MACLIB is updated via PDF dialog table services, driven by a number of
> older REXX EXECs. It contains hundreds of members, which can be updated at
> any time, and new members are added every day.
>
> I'm unsure i
The MACLIB is updated via PDF dialog table services, driven by a number of
older REXX EXECs. It contains hundreds of members, which can be updated at any
time, and new members are added every day.
I'm unsure if ISPF/PDF "locks" a member, or a table row, each time it's
up
Access control is an ISPF function, I presume that one of the two locks (LMF or
SCLM) is used to prevent concurrent updates of the same member. It must also
have some way to serialize the updates of the library. That is an area that I
have avoided. I hate working with kludges or black boxes
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
> Unfortunately, that will not fly with the application. There are always
> several users who have the disk MW. It is a heavily used application and
> users keep it linked active for long periods. The main users of it live in
> the applicati
age-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of P S
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:48 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Mark
> Llewellyn wrot
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Mark Llewellyn wrote:
> Any veteran ISPF/PDF SMEs out there?
>
> We have an ancient and soon-to-be decommissioned ISPF/PDF application that
> makes use of an enormous MACLIB on a shared mult-write minidisk. Scary, I
> know, but that's the w
Any veteran ISPF/PDF SMEs out there?
We have an ancient and soon-to-be decommissioned ISPF/PDF application tha
t
makes use of an enormous MACLIB on a shared mult-write minidisk. Scary,
I
know, but that's the way ISPF works on CMS.
This maclib can grow by millions of records per day, d
Don't forget that if Dave is running his z/VM system on IFL engines and
not CP ones, he'll need to license ISPF via the special bids process. I
don't have a clue how one does that; contact your IBM or Business
Partner for advice.
Have a good one.
C. Lawrence Perkins wrot
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of C. Lawrence Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:35 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation
Yes, if ISPF wasn't on your SDO tapes, you'll need to order it. You can
get it on ShopZSeries and probably via internet d
t; From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
>> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of C. Lawrence Perkins
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:17 PM
>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Subject: Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation
>>
>> ISPF for VM is one of those "
Yes, if ISPF wasn't on your SDO tapes, you'll need to order it. You can
get it on ShopZSeries and probably via internet delivery as a Program
Product "envelope". Or a real tape, but not a reel tape.
On Tue, 5 May 2009 16:21:05 -0700, KEETON Dave * SDC
wrote:
>What
What I have is the z/VM 5.4 SDO media. If I need an additional ISPF
product tape, I will need to order it.
Thanks,
Dave
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of C. Lawrence Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:17 PM
To: IBMVM
V.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation
>
> ISPF for VM is one of those "semi-VMSES/E" products. It's so
> old it predates the rigourous methodology of VMSES/E and had
> its own install method based on an install tool EXEC from
> earlier vers
ISPF for VM is one of those "semi-VMSES/E" products. It's so old it
predates the rigourous methodology of VMSES/E and had its own install
method based on an install tool EXEC from earlier versions of VM.
The z/VM 5.4 SDO Directory
http://www.vm.ibm.com/sdo/sdozv54.pdf
h
I need to install ISPF on my z/VM 5.4 system. I have recently installed
RACF and need to add panel support. I have the electronic media from the
Shop zSeries site as well as the DVD for the z/VM 5.4 SDO.
How do I go about installing ISPF after the fact? Can I do it via FTP?
Can that part be
m trying to install ISPF under z/VM 5.4
> I've followed the directions in the SDO program directory. Loaded the
> code, built the Saved Segment. IPL the ISPVM service machine.
> I link to ISPVM 192 disk and run ISPSTART.
>
> I get an error -
> A severe error occurred
I'm trying to install ISPF under z/VM 5.4
I've followed the directions in the SDO program directory. Loaded the code,
built the Saved Segment. IPL the ISPVM service machine.
I link to ISPVM 192 disk and run ISPSTART.
I get an error -
A severe error occurred when reading the pro
Quoting Alan Ackerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 01:07:04 -0500, Leland Lucius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >It's not the best solution, but it does provide highlighting...just not
> in
> >real time:
> >
> >http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/index.html#QDI
> >
> >And here's a
On Mon, 12 May 2008 01:07:04 -0500, Leland Lucius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>It's not the best solution, but it does provide highlighting...just not
in
>real time:
>
>http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/index.html#QDI
>
>And here's a mod I did to it for REXX keywords:
>
>http://homerow.net/zvm/qd
--On May 11, 2008 8:27:25 PM -0500 "Lionel B. Dyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Is it possible (and if so has anyone done it) to have an XEdit Macro that
enables syntax highlighting similar to that available to the z/OS ISPF Ed
itor?
Hi Lionel,
It's not the best
--On May 11, 2008 8:27:25 PM -0500 "Lionel B. Dyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Is it possible (and if so has anyone done it) to have an XEdit Macro that
enables syntax highlighting similar to that available to the z/OS ISPF Ed
itor?
Hi Lionel,
It's not the best
Alan Ackerman wrote:
I use Kedit on my PC.
Did anyone say "X2"? http://www.tangbu.com/x2main.shtml
--
Jack J. Woehr# "Hipsters believe that irony has
http://www.well.com/~jax # more resonance than reason."
http://www.softwoehr.com # - Robert Lanham
On Sun, 11 May 2008 20:27:25 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Is it possible (and if so has anyone done it) to have an XEdit Macro tha
t
>enables syntax highlighting similar to that available to the z/OS ISPF E
ditor?
>
>(No - I do not want to start a edi
yntax highlighting similar to that available to the z/OS ISPF Ed
itor?
(No - I do not want to start a editor war)
Thanks
--
Lee Stewart, Senior SE
Sirius Computer Solutions
Phone: (303) 798-2954
Fax: (720) 228-2321
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.siriuscom.com
On May 11, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
Is it possible (and if so has anyone done it) to have an XEdit Macro
that
enables syntax highlighting similar to that available to the z/OS
ISPF Ed
itor?
USE EMACS YOU HERETIC!!1!!one!1!
(No - I do not want to start a editor war)
Oh
Is it possible (and if so has anyone done it) to have an XEdit Macro that
enables syntax highlighting similar to that available to the z/OS ISPF Ed
itor?
(No - I do not want to start a editor war)
Thanks
Lionel, I did a fair amount of pure-XEDIT panel design back in the Y2K days,
both by hand (it's not hard) and writing Rexx apps to dynamically generate and
use them. Let's try to carve out some time next week to talk about it.
-Chip-
On 1/31/08 17:44 Lionel B. Dyck said:
I don'
, he could give you some tips
to shorten the curve. (And he may be monitoring this list. Larry?)
On Jan 31, 2008 12:44 PM, Lionel B. Dyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't have ISPF/VM and yet I would like to create simple display panels
>
> with menus and data entry opt
Another possibility from the VM download site is RXDISP. I haven't used
because I was never an ISPF fan, but it's something to check out.
Jim
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I don't have ISPF/VM and yet I would like to create simple display panels
with menus and data entry options.
Is there a way to do this using XEdit or some other native z/VM facility?
TIA
other good display manages is RDM/ESA available from the University
of
> Victoria:
> http://uvvm.uvic.ca/~freeware/
FYI: Of the three, CUA2001 comes out of the box looking the most like
ISPF. If you have people that are familiar with ISPF, it'll give you the
quickest way to "look and feel&
uc
h
faster in terms of CPU resources and MY time for coding the menus and exe
cs.
/Tom Kern
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:44:02 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I don't have ISPF/VM and yet I would like to create simple display panel
s
>with menus and data entry opt
manages is RDM/ESA available from the University of
Victoria:
http://uvvm.uvic.ca/~freeware/
Hope this helps.
Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
I don't have ISPF/VM and yet I would like to create simple display panels
with menus and data entry options.
Is there a way to do this using XEdit or some
I don't have ISPF/VM and yet I would like to create simple display panels
with menus and data entry options.
Is there a way to do this using XEdit or some other native z/VM facility?
TIA
led NEATWIND,
> written by Brendan Jones, IBM A/NZ. It was quite impressive with what
it
> could do to manipulate and display 3270 screens.
Don't forget IOS3270 and CUA2001 if you're going to rework the apps. All
of the above display managers provide nice features, but none are
directly compatible with ISPF.
-- db
There is also IOS3270 on the IBM Downloads site.
/Tom Kern
Adam Thornton wrote:
On Jan 3, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
As Alan has already informed us, DMS/CMS is still available for z/VM.
Another tool that can support DMS/CMS applications with no change to
either the programs, panels
The VM ISPF is a fairly old version, particularly the PDF part, so if
you expect the VM product to have the latest ISPF features, you'll be
disappointed. If you have applications that use ISPF as a display
manager, most will work (obviously ones with embedded TSO or z/OS-only
commands will ne
On Jan 3, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
As Alan has already informed us, DMS/CMS is still available for z/VM.
Another tool that can support DMS/CMS applications with no change to
either the programs, panels, or PCB files is RDM/ESA from the
University
of Victoria. IBM also had at one t
ement System for CMS. It had interfaces for
EXEC/EXEC2, COBOL, PL/I, RPG, and BAL, but I used REXX with no
problems. Admittedly it was ISPF-Lite but it did everything we
needed for some pretty sophisticated applications. It has a slick
(well, for 1980) interactive panel design tool that would le
ISPF for z/VM has not been enhanced for
several years (10 years was mentioned twice) where as the ISPF for z/OS
has been upgraded and improved over the years. So, the time lag between
the two products will contribute to the difficulty of the conversion
effort.
And for Alan's (Altmark) poi
EXEC/EXEC2, COBOL,
PL/I, RPG,
> and BAL, but I used REXX with no problems. Admittedly it was ISPF-Lite
but it
> did everything we needed for some pretty sophisticated applications. It
has a
> slick (well, for 1980) interactive panel design tool that would let you
build
> anyt
This won't help Raymond any, but it reminded me of something.
I used to write a lot of panel apps using a VM program product called Display
Management System for CMS. It had interfaces for EXEC/EXEC2, COBOL, PL/I, RPG,
and BAL, but I used REXX with no problems. Admittedly it was ISPF
Hi, Raymond.
I believe the answer is "yes, but". Yes, you can port a
z/OS-TSO-ISPF panel application over to z/VM-CMS-ISPF, but you will need
to modify all the file access and i/o from TSO specific to CMS specific,
remove any advanced ISPF panel features that you might have u
On Thursday, 01/03/2008 at 03:56 EST, Raymond Noal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Will z/OS, TSO ISPF panels and dialogs work under the z/VM, CMS ISPF
program
> product? Is there any degree of compatibility between the two ISPF
products? Is
> there any migration/conversion eff
Hi,
I moved an ISPF rexx application I wrote from VM to MVS. It's a manual
migration. REXX is what I used to drive to panels. On VM I could
pre-process the panels. As far as what's in a panel, (all the definitions),
some due point to the source of the panel or the EXEC by PFKey
Dear Lists:
I am cross posting this question to the z/OS and z/VM lists due to the
nature of my question, which is -
Will z/OS, TSO ISPF panels and dialogs work under the z/VM, CMS ISPF
program product? Is there any degree of compatibility between the two
ISPF products? Is there any migration
d "OPCUSER" is logged on. Change RACFULL EXEC if not
appropriate.
We use it daily. Available on request.
2007/5/18, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Thanks all , esp. David for your help! RLPF looks good to me, just hope it
will work with z/VM v5.2 too.
It should, if all t
Thanks all , esp. David for your help! RLPF looks good to me, just hope
it will work with z/VM v5.2 too.
It should, if all the ISPF bits still work properly. RLPF is more
dependent on RACF version than on VM version. ISPF/VM hasn't changed in
a zillion years (at least 10, anyway),
Thanks all , esp. David for your help! RLPF looks good to me, just hope it will
work with z/VM v5.2 too.
Have a great weekend!
Cara
- Original Message
From: Bill Munson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 2:36:12 PM
Subject: Re: freewar
cool ;>)
David Boyes wrote:
What is wrong with the VM ISPF product.
It's next to impossible to license it on IFLs, and it's very expensive
for just the task of displaying simple. It's also a non-trivial install
if you have few CMS skills.
> What is wrong with the VM ISPF product.
It's next to impossible to license it on IFLs, and it's very expensive
for just the task of displaying simple. It's also a non-trivial install
if you have few CMS skills.
Let us not forget XEDIT macroes.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bill Munson
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 2:17 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: freeware ISPF panel like utility for RACF for VM?
Cara,
What is wrong
Cara,
What is wrong with the VM ISPF product.
When I was mainting RACF (1.10) on VM about 15 years ago I used the VM
ISPF Panels just like the MVS guys did.
alas that was a long time ago during the good ole days ;>)
Bill Munson
IT Specialist
VM System Programmer
Office of Informat
Wouldn't we all, although I'd rather avoid ISPF in favor of something
more VM friendly like CUA2001 or IOS3270.
Make sure they are using the RACF integration with DIRMAINT, which helps
somewhat. Also check out RLPF from the VM download library
(http://www.vm.ibm.com/downloa
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone know of some freeware utility that will provide z/OS
ISPF panel like view for RACF with z/VM. My customer would love to have some
kind of an interface instead of just command lines when using RACF for VM.
Thanks for your help in advance!
Cara
Be smarter
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:26:30 -0600, Ed Zell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
rote:
>OK, here is an example of some file tailoring that we do for
>our programming staff using ISPF and Dialog Manager. This
>one creates a compile job stream for a COBOL CICS program.
>
>It may or may not c
r passing data between invocations of the EXEC.
>
>Ed Zell wrote:
>> OK, here is an example of some file tailoring that we do for
>> our programming staff using ISPF and Dialog Manager. This
>> one creates a compile job stream for a COBOL CICS program.
>>
>> It may o
r
our programming staff using ISPF and Dialog Manager. This
one creates a compile job stream for a COBOL CICS program.
It may or may not contain SQL statements, that is determined
by the library type (COBOL or SQLCOBOL). A REXX EXEC drives
the process (display panel, do some basic editing to validate
OK, here is an example of some file tailoring that we do for
our programming staff using ISPF and Dialog Manager. This
one creates a compile job stream for a COBOL CICS program.
It may or may not contain SQL statements, that is determined
by the library type (COBOL or SQLCOBOL). A REXX EXEC
Basic "skeleton -> text substitution -> new file" proccessing is easily done in
REXX/Pipelines. I submit DFSMS backups with filename substitution of current
date on a regular basis. Tell us more and we will find more ways to help you
get out from under the ISPF burden.
/Tom Kern
-
> I have done that with a few apps, but we generate a ton of VSE JCL
using
> ISPF file tailoring. I've never really found a way to get away from
it
> that is as simple and easy as file tailoring. Any thoughts there?
CUA2001 does a lot with XEDIT, and you get the full power o
Thanks for the info, sounds sort of like what I thought.
Gillis, Mark wrote:
'ISPF file tailoring' is used for JCL generation in MVS - a 'skeleton'
JCL file is read, variable substitution takes place and then written
out. This is obviously a gross simplification of what it
'ISPF file tailoring' is used for JCL generation in MVS - a 'skeleton'
JCL file is read, variable substitution takes place and then written
out. This is obviously a gross simplification of what it's used for.
Mark Gillis
Senior Software Engineer
Tel: +61 2 9429 2337
Fa
I've never used ISPF, so I'm not sure what 'ISPF file tailoring' is, but
if it's something like entering parameters or values of some sort, I
expect it could be duplicated to a certain extent.
Ed Zell wrote:
Depending upon what those 'cool utilities' are t
Ed,
If you can share these utilities, some of us might be interested in one or two
and be willing to pick up the burden of rewritting your ISPF/DM utility in
REXX/Pipelines/Xedit and then return the new version to you.
/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211
--- Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> We still have it... for another vendors file transfer app.
>
We dumped NDM years ago, and then ISPF (/DM part only).
Shimon
e that with a few apps, but we generate a ton of VSE JCL using
ISPF file tailoring. I've never really found a way to get away from it
that is as simple and easy as file tailoring. Any thoughts there?
Ed Zell
(309) 674-8255 x-107
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.
CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE: This communication
e it. Not for anything new, mind you. But spending
the money to convert unsupported applications from ISPF to
"something else" would likely be more expensive in the long run.
And IBM probably knows that, so there is no motivation for them to
lower the cost for us long time VM shops.
Who knows. The list is not very active. I am sure there are a few
vm sites on the list.
duane
At 03:06 PM 1/16/2007, you wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Duane,
Thanks. Is it pretty much a z/OS ISPF list or do they "speak VM"?
Ed Zell
Illinois Mutual Life
(309) 6
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Duane,
Thanks. Is it pretty much a z/OS ISPF list or do they "speak VM"?
Ed Zell
Illinois Mutual Life
(309) 674-8255 x-107
.
CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE: This communication, including any attachments, is
intended only for the use of the individual or entity t
> We still use it. Not for anything new, mind you. But spending
> the money to convert unsupported applications from ISPF to
> "something else" would likely be more expensive in the long run.
And IBM probably knows that, so there is no motivation for them to
lower the cost
At 02:53 PM 1/16/2007, you wrote:
> We still have it.
>
> Are you on the list?
Dennis,
No, I wasn't aware of a list for ISPF/PDF. Can you please
send me the particulars? Thanks.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> We still have it.
>
> Are you on the list?
Dennis,
No, I wasn't aware of a list for ISPF/PDF. Can you please
send me the particulars? Thanks.
Ed Zell
(309) 674-8255 x-107
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Us too. Also, the ISPF portion is used by DFSMS.
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Marcy Cortes
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:39 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF and ISPF/PDF
We still have it... for
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Subject: [IBMVM] ISPF and ISPF/PDF
Speaking of software that hasn't changed much in the last 10 years
We still run ISPF and ISPF/PDF. The last fixes I put on were Y2K
related back in 1997 or 1998 IIRC. Is anyone else still using
these products? Since they are so stable and no new wor
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Schuh, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:06 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] ISPF and ISPF/PDF
We still have several applications that use ISPDF/PDF. There is a project to
convert and enhance the most critical of them. After that, we will try to
ferret out any
We still use it. Not for anything new, mind you. But spending the money
to convert unsupported applications from ISPF to "something else" would
likely be more expensive in the long run.
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not n
We still have several applications that use ISPDF/PDF. There is a project to
convert and enhance the most critical of them. After that, we will try to
ferret out any other uses and "correct" them. There is no new development that
will use ISPF/PDF.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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