We are having this problem on a z/VSE that had a low-core storage
overlay. We can't seem to find a way out of it.
force ua
HCPUSO361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user UA
Ready(00361); T=0.01/0.01 14:36:34
ind i/o
Issue HALT 1B0D a few times until the user logs off.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:41 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user
We
M. Ramaekers Jr.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Wakser, David
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:47 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user
Issue HALT
to gather documentation for IBM, clear up most such
problems, and provides a handy reference the next time it happens.
Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
---snip---
When a userid becomes hung in a LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING state, the following
. logoff user from terminal 1
4. query user from another session (logoff/force pending is what I see)
5. condition can be cleared by pressing enter on terminal 2
Bob.
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. logoff user from terminal 1
4. query user from another session (logoff/force pending is what I see)
5. condition can be cleared by pressing enter on terminal 2
Bob.
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Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent
On Tuesday, 11/03/2009 at 04:45 EST, Bob Levad ble...@winnebagoind.com
wrote:
I don't know if others have seen this behaviour, but I've seen
discussion of
logoff/force pending recently and found nothing similar in a quick
internet
search.
If you LOGOFF or are FORCEd while you
I don't know if others have seen this behaviour, but I've seen discussion of
logoff/force pending recently and found nothing similar in a quick internet
search.
I had the HCP361E message for a user and incidentally found that I had a
logical session that I had started to logon here
I have a LOGOFF/FORCE pending situation and I know which device is hung. Any
ideas on how to clear the device so the force may complete?
Thank you,
Scott R Wandschneider
Senior Systems Programmer|| Infocrossing, a Wipro Company || 11707 Miracle
Hills Drive, Omaha, NE, 68154-4457
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Wandschneider, Scott
scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote:
I have a LOGOFF/FORCE pending situation and I know which device is hung.
Any ideas on how to clear the device so the force may complete?
Power off the device? Or is it virtual only?
It is a virtual tape device.
Thank you,
Scott
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of P S
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:21 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE pending
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:19 PM
: Wandschneider, Scott [scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com]
Sent: 10/12/2009 11:19 AM MST
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: LOGOFF/FORCE pending
I have a LOGOFF/FORCE pending situation and I know which device is hung. Any
ideas on how to clear the device so the force may complete?
Thank you
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: LOGOFF/FORCE pending
I have a LOGOFF/FORCE pending situation and I know which device is hung. Any
ideas on how to clear the device so the force may complete?
Thank you,
Scott R Wandschneider
Senior Systems Programmer|| Infocrossing, a Wipro Company || 11707
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE pending
Issue a CP HALT to the REAL device ...
JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Sustaining Engineer
Tel: +1-703-708-3479
steven.im...@ca.com
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Wandschneider, Scott
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Wandschneider, Scott
scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote:
The hung User completed its logoff before I could issue the HALT. It was
hung for about 30-35 minutes before completing.
Damn, now you can't issue...oh, wait. Nevermind. :-)
LOL
Thank you,
Scott
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of P S
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:41 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE pending
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Wandschneider, Scott
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
To
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
cc
Subject
Re: LOGOFF/FORCE pending
The hung User completed its logoff before I could issue the HALT. It was
hung for about 30-35 minutes before completing.
Thank you,
Scott
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib
!)
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Wade
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:32 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
I do, but only for fun
Dave
12:47 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
For all of you who are sitting on pins and needles awaiting the outcome of our
incident, you can get off the pin cushion now. After several hours, but before
a dump could be taken, the logoff completed
On Oct 1, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
After several hours, but before a dump could be taken,
Tried metamucil?
Adam
at whatever
replaced the VMDBK.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:31 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
Adam Thornton wrote:
On Oct 1, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
After several hours, but before a dump could be taken,
Tried metamucil?
I guess we should have called it V/Metamucil all those years ago...!
...phsiii
I prefer vExlax
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:31 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
Adam Thornton
Please respond to
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
To
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
cc
Subject
Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
Adam Thornton wrote:
On Oct 1, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
After several hours, but before a dump could be taken,
Tried metamucil?
I guess
We have a user in the subject state. Track shows an interesting thing. In the
VMDBK display, the storage is shown to be -107373M. That's right, a whopping
small negative number. Most of the rest of the VMDBK is zeros with no devices
and no I/O pending. Is this a normal value for that field in
, 2009 4:38 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
We have a user in the subject state. Track shows an interesting thing.
In the VMDBK display, the storage is shown to be -107373M. That's right,
a whopping small negative number. Most of the rest of the VMDBK is zeros
Of Wandschneider, Scott
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:23 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
Richard,
Please keep the list posted with any updates to this subject. I, for one, am
*very* interested in your PMR. As I recall this has been a nagging problem
since the VM
On: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:22:49PM -0700,Wandschneider, Scott Wrote:
} Please keep the list posted with any updates to this subject. I, for
} one, am *very* interested in your PMR. As I recall this has been a
} nagging problem since the VM/370 days. As I update our VM systems I am
} taking
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com wrote:
On: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:22:49PM -0700,Wandschneider, Scott Wrote:
} Please keep the list posted with any updates to this subject. I, for
} one, am *very* interested in your PMR. As I recall this has been a
} nagging
, September 30, 2009 3:53 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
On: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:22:49PM -0700,Wandschneider, Scott Wrote:
} Please keep the list posted with any updates to this
subject. I, for } one, am *very* interested in your PMR. As
I recall
/FORCE PENDING
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Rich Greenberg
ric...@panix.com wrote:
On: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:22:49PM -0700,Wandschneider,
Scott Wrote:
} Please keep the list posted with any updates to this subject. I,
for } one, am *very* interested in your PMR. As I recall
I do, but only for fun
Dave
G4UGM
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: 01 October 2009 00:11
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
Are you still using a system
, 2009 7:32 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
I do, but only for fun
Dave
G4UGM
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[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: 01 October 2009 00:11
Date: Thu=2C 24 Sep 2009 08:48:14 -0500
From: thue...@kable.com
Subject: Re: HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user OPERATR4
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
The telco will copyright it and sell it as an added feature ringtone.
=0A
Subject: Re: HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user OPERATR4
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I'm sure this issue was raised a zillion times!
But my question is, What's the solution?
Operatr4 is a class G user ID that got caught doing something and is now in the
never-never land!
Is there a way to get it back other than wait?
Suleiman Shahin
Thanks.
System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Suleiman Shahin
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user OPERATR4
I'm sure this issue was raised a zillion times!
But my question is, What's the solution
.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:17 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user OPERATR4
Odds
.
Thanks all.
Suleiman Shahin
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:16:36 -0500
From: thue...@kable.com
Subject: Re: HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user OPERATR4
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Other than that waiting is the best course, but you may end up doing
a VM IPL
Thanks.
I'll open a ticket.
Suleiman Shahin
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:33:59 -0500
From: marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com
Subject: Re: HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user OPERATR4
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Take a SNAPDUMP and open a ticket with
IBM.
This is what you should
. Get a SNAPDUMP and open a PMR. We should simply
change the text of the message to say LOGOFF/FORCE pending. If it
doesn't complete in the next 15 minutes (or highest MITIME), get a
SNAPDUMP and open a PMR. [Go away. What? Oh, alright, I'll tell him.]
He Who Must Not Be Named just handed me
z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Suleiman Shahin
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:31 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user OPERATR4
Alan Altmark said:
[What? Go away. Oh, alright, I'll tell him.]
I did
In limerick:
A user in LOGOFF/FORCE pending
is in dire need of some mending.
An IPL I avoid,
lest the users get annoyed,
so a fix my way should be wending.
Brian
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:01:57 -0400, peter.w...@ttc.ca wrote:
Or maybe a haiku?
FORCE or LOGOFF pends
What options have I today
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user OPERATR4
In limerick:
A user in LOGOFF/FORCE pending
is in dire need of some mending.
An IPL I avoid,
lest the users get annoyed,
so a fix my way should be wending.
Brian
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:01:57 -0400, peter.w
On 9/23/2009 at 4:04 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote:
Since Chuckie started this line, I expect Alan to weigh in with a sonnet.
I'm expecting Dan Martin's booted heel, myself.
Mark Post
On Wednesday, 09/23/2009 at 03:31 EDT, Suleiman Shahin
s_s_sha...@hotmail.com wrote:
I did open a PMR and that's what I was told!! To go away! And if I
decide the
take a snapdump, to come back!
Um, yes. That's why Marcy and I said take a snapdump and open a PMR.
:-)
So I guest I'll let
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:07 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] HCPCQU361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user OPERATR4
On Wednesday, 09/23/2009 at 03:31 EDT, Suleiman Shahin
s_s_sha
I will take a snap dump and call!
I will just wait for a lull in activity!
Thanks so much!
Suleiman Shahin
Please don't let that stop you from getting the snapdump and opening the
PMR. We want to fix the problem. (Don't be afraid of the snapdump - the
system keeps running.)
Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 09/23/2009 at 04:16 EDT, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com
wrote:
Since Chuckie started this line, I expect Alan to weigh in with a
sonnet.
I don't feel so compelled, esp. as I'm not very good at poetry. I was
simply doing the C-man a favor. He (you know who I mean) claims that
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The keyword I missed! Off peak.=20
It's not my heart that will jump.. But the boss's!
The user is only 5Meg and
On Wednesday, 09/23/2009 at 04:59 EDT, Suleiman Shahin
s_s_sha...@hotmail.com wrote:
The keyword I missed! Off peak.
It's not my heart that will jump.. But the boss's!
The user is only 5Meg and should taske no time. No ATMs here !
The time it takes depends on the memory size of the LPAR,
Hi
I am receiving this message every time I try to force MAINT. I think
something is not right leading up to this. I tried logging on to MIANT
with HERE I get the user id for a few minutes and than by session is
lost. I can not see any logs that might give me any indication what
might be
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: HCPLGA361E LOGOFF/FORCE pending for user MAINT
Hi
I am receiving this message every time I try to force MAINT. I think
something is not right leading up to this. I tried logging on to MIANT
with HERE I get the user id for a few minutes and than by session is
lost. I can not see any
All CPHX does is set a bit that some commands check.
If the command checks the bit and finds it on, then
the command decides to quit.
CPHX does not forcibly terminate anything.
Richard Corak
At Piedmont Airlines, we had problems with V/FORCE-XA on XA/SP, and we
did not have an Amdahl cpu. It seemed that after using V/FORCE, the
system would always crash at some undetermined later time. We found it
easier to leave the user in LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING and schedule the outage
at our
On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 09:01 -0800, Schuh, Richard wrote:
Best of all, on 5.2 you are unlikely to have the problem. We have not
had even one hung user in nearly 6 months of running 5.2.
Please no jokes about well hung users.
Spoil sport.
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Neale Ferguson
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:12 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Logoff force pending
On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 09:01 -0800, Schuh, Richard wrote:
Best
I really love to see comments like this (from people i don't
yet know)
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Berry van Sleeuwen
One of them has almost daily problems with performance (or so they
claim) and an other is not
Can't overlook a potential customer, can you?
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of barton
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:04 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Logoff force pending
I really love to see comments like
Can anyone? :)
Schuh, Richard wrote:
Can't overlook a potential customer, can you?
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of barton
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:04 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Logoff force
Hello list,
The past week my userid was in a logoff force pending state. Yesterday
this status has changed. So I can use my userid again. But I can't figure
out why my user was waiting to logoff like this.
The system is our z/Linux production VM that is running z/VM 4.4.0 on a
z990 machine
.
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
READ: HUNGUSER HELPME (handy when issuing: HELP ME HUNGUSER)
When a userid becomes hung in a LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING state, the following
:19 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Logoff force pending
Berry,
Hung user situations have been dramatically reduced since the good old
days of VM/SP, VM/HPO, and VM/XA. Back then, when the hung user was
critical enough, I would explain to my management that I could zap
David,
If that works, great. But because you have the NEW directory entry with
R/W access (presumably MW or MWV, since the hung user already has them
R/W) to the same DASD/MDISKs as the hung user, you are taking a chance. If
that hung user should reawaken (perhaps the device it was hung up on
I seem to remember that the old V/Force included somehow
disabling all devices attached to the hung user, so that even
if it DID 'wake up', it no longer would/could do any new I/O.
I think it might have also detached devices not 'in use',
but I am less sure of this.
Anyone remember more
was already brought down.
David Wakser
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:41 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Logoff force pending
David,
If that works, great. But because
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01/04/2007 10:53 AM
Please respond to
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
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IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
cc
Subject
Re: Logoff force pending
I seem to remember that the old V/Force included somehow
disabling all devices attached to the hung user, so that even
If the guest operating systems set themselves up to be notified for
the shutdown signal, and you've defined a default shutdown interval
(which you can check with cp q signal shutdown) then by default a
FORCE command will signal the guest to shut down cleanly. You can
check which guests are set
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