Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-07-05 Thread Schuh, Richard
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 8:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP On Monday, 07/04/2011 at 09:12 EDT, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: SA22-7832-08, pg. 11-16, in the section

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-07-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/04/2011 at 09:12 EDT, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: SA22-7832-08, pg. 11-16, in the section on Warnings. There's about two sentences referring to power failure. The rest is in the SHUTTRAP source code. I said it was tiny. 8-). Indeed, and vague, too

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-29 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
the conditions. The exec that is run when SHUTTRAP catches a shutdown signal starts its work by signaling PROP to turn off reloging. Only after that does it start bringing down the various machines it is responsible to stop. If I were to cancel the SHUTDOWN, I would have to re-enable RELOGing

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/29/2011 at 10:11 EDT, Shimon Lebowitz shim...@iname.com wrote: If I were to cancel the SHUTDOWN, I would have to re-enable RELOGing, but to date I have not built in such a function. I have also never cancelled a SHUTDOWN, so if it ever happens, I will need to do the enable

SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Schuh, Richard
I just retrieved SHUTTRAP from the download page and tried it. In my first simpleminded try, the results were mixed. The signal shutdown did indeed trigger the command included with the shuttrap command. Then I got this: SHUTTRAP: Shutdown in 900 seconds DMSITP143T Addressing exception occurred

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Tom Huegel
Richard, I don't see that on my 5.4 system. Here is how I start it. /* */ say 'loading SHUTTRAP as a CMS nucleaus extension' 'nucxload shuttrap (system' say 'enabling SGNLSHUT exec to process shutdown signal' shuttrap exec sgnlshut exit And the sgnlshut exec. /* exec to perform some functions

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Raymond Noal
Hello Richard, I believe the reason for your error message in using SHUTTRAP is that SHUTTRAP can only issue CMS commands and not CP commands. Is the message associated with your SHUTTRAP issuing a CP command? I had the same problem when my message was a CP command. As a test for SHUTTAP I

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Kris Buelens
My RxKernel has ShutTrap support. RxServer uses WAKEUP (EXT to catch the interrupt. No abends then. And, to complete handling a shutdown signal, one is supposed to load an FFF wait state, not to LOGOFF. My first attempt was to end with a LOGOFF. But then our automation saw the server go

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Tom Huegel
Thanks Kris, that is not obvious, but it makes sense.. On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.comwrote: My RxKernel has ShutTrap support. RxServer uses WAKEUP (EXT to catch the interrupt. No abends then. And, to complete handling a shutdown signal, one

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Kris Buelens
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: SHUTTRAP Thanks Kris, that is not obvious, but it makes sense.. On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.comwrote: My RxKernel has ShutTrap support. RxServer uses WAKEUP (EXT to catch the interrupt. No abends then. And, to complete

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP That code is what CP will load when its shutdown is complete. So, not related to signal shutdown's wait code. I don't remember where I found the code to load, my guess

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 03:10 EDT, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: No only is it not obvious, so far I have been unable to find it in the documentation. You can specify a wait state code on the SHUTDOWN command and it can be anything between 1 and . I cannot find where the

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 03:10 EDT, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: No only is it not obvious, so far I have been unable to find it in the documentation. You can

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Raymond Noal
Phone: (508) 249-4076 Ext: 44076 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP Given the lack of direction, I suppose that you can do

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Schuh, Richard
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Raymond Noal Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP Richard, You can use the CP command - 'Q SIGNALS' to make your determinations, as in - q signals

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 07:35 EDT, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: Close, but I am not willing to grant you a cigar. If all, or even most, have the same Signalled by id, then either a signal shutdown all was done or a program did multiple signal shutdown user userid commands in

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread David Boyes
You will not find any published information on the mechanism. There is a tiny amount of information in the POP manual in the external interrupt section on the original LPAR deactivation signal and what's supposed to happen when it triggers, but the end comment is that the effect will be

Re: SHUTTRAP

2011-06-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 10:06 EDT, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: You will not find any published information on the mechanism. There is a tiny amount of information in the POP manual in the external interrupt section on the original LPAR deactivation signal and what's

Re: Wakeup and Shuttrap

2007-11-09 Thread Kris Buelens
I've been reading and testing: - I get WAKEUP's RC 6 too, but when calling WAKEUP again, it directly exist with RC 1. So, the SHUTTRAP signal triggers 2 WAKEUP events: COSN SMSG. Removing the CONS option doesn't do anything. - SHUTTRAP does not work like ADDRESS CMS, (so an eventual

Re: Wakeup and Shuttrap

2007-11-09 Thread Kris Buelens
, DRCT, TDISK) and optionally on SFS server allocations. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 Kris Buelens wrote: I've been reading and testing: * I get WAKEUP's RC 6 too, but when calling WAKEUP again, it directly exist with RC 1. So, the SHUTTRAP signal triggers 2 WAKEUP events: COSN

Re: Wakeup and Shuttrap

2007-11-09 Thread Thomas Kern
with RC 1. So, the SHUTTRAP signal triggers 2 WAKEUP events: COSN SMSG. Removing the CONS option doesn't do anything. * SHUTTRAP does not work like ADDRESS CMS, (so an eventual CP EXEC wouldn't matter) * Diverting the SMSG delivery

Re: Wakeup and Shuttrap

2007-11-09 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:15:36 -0600, Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I have to clean it up just a bit more. Which brings up the next tangent on this discussion. When I signal a linux SVM to shutdown, CP reports th at the linux SVM has signalled its termination. When I am logged onto a

Re: Wakeup and Shuttrap

2007-11-09 Thread Brian Nielsen
Logging off seems like a pretty good signal. :-) You can put any CP command you want in the VMPOFF, so you could use MSG or SMSG to send a signal back to a shutdown SVM, which could wait until all guests have reported in before it issues the real CP SHUTDOWN. Brian Nielsen On Fri, 9 Nov

Re: Wakeup and Shuttrap

2007-11-09 Thread Thomas Kern
A CLASS G linux guest only needs to signal CP that ITS own shutdown processing has been completed and apparently the x0FFF in the PSW does th at. An SVM or Operator or Sysprog that issued the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command wil l get the HCPSIG2113I message when the target SVM has completed its shutdow n

Re: Wakeup and Shuttrap

2007-11-09 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:15:36 -0600, Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this PSW code (x0FFF) the indicator to CP that SHUTDOWN has completed? If it is, how can I nicely load the same indicator when my SVM has completed its shutdown processing? Sorry, I mis-read your question the first

Re: ? SHUTTRAP ?

2006-08-03 Thread Horlick, Michael
3, 2006 12:59 PM To: VSE Discussion List Subject: Re: ? SHUTTRAP ? According to the documentation, there are two things to consider: 1) IUCV ALLOW ANY *SIGNAL in the VM directory 2) CP SET SIGNAL to determine shutdown delay. That is all I have found so far. Ken Meyer CSI Ron