[IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Susan Coombes
I used to keep fish in my water tank but one year my tank water heater broke down and all the fish froze. Pat G., in MN Where do you get a tank water heater? Is it battery or mains? Sue Coombes

[IceHorses] Re: Bill Saddling Beaut

2008-05-01 Thread Susan Coombes
Finally, here's a couple of pictures of Bill with his hoist which enabled him to be able to saddle Beaut by himself, in the later years. Thanks Judy for the photos, I'm in the process or re-reading Bill's book as night time reading. It is even better second time around. I am also doing the

[IceHorses] Re: What Gait / TWH in Belgium

2008-05-01 Thread Susan Coombes
What gait for this Tennesee Walking Horse http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-tennessee-walker- in-belgium.html Mostly flat walk.Some ordinary walk in the middle and a little running walk near the end. Sue Coombes

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/1 Susan Coombes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Where do you get a tank water heater? Is it battery or mains? Sue Coombes You've never needed a tank heater? Wow.. Sometimes I forget how forgiving other locales are to live in. Ice and snow are no thrill... Oh..in answer to your question, you plug

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
You've never needed a tank heater? Wow.. Sometimes I forget how forgiving other locales are to live in. We have one, but have never used it. We get ice on the top of our tanks sometimes, but so far, never so bad that we can stir it and break it. We have tanks that are pretty deep

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
I agree with you completely and then I am going to confess that I just asked my grandson to do the first few rides on Yrsa. The difference here is that Gabriel is 17 and a better, more balanced rider than I am and he probably weighs more. He's certainly more agile and athletic

[IceHorses] OT a foundling

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
for two years now my geese lay huge piles of eggs and set them for months and never hatch anything. Then last nite my husband calls me at work and says I had six geese hatch out! He said all were doing great, but one he is scrawney and stunted and the mom kicked him out of the nest so something

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / TWH in Belgium

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-tennessee-walker-in-belgium.html Walking for the most part. I'd say mostly flat walking, with some regular walking and maybe a couple of short parts that might have been running walk. I think I also saw one brief glimpse of step pace,

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
I have ground driven him a few times but he is way better at it than me! But he doesnt pull and drag on me. He is a very lackadaisacal nonchalant guy. I think it will be ok. Trust me. I know my horses and if he is the least bit uncomfortable or even fretting I will just let Kale waller all

Re: [IceHorses] Liz in Belgium

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
wow, has to be an awesome group... their suggested reading is Lee Z, Bill Dorrance and Eckhardt Tolle! Jeez would be a spiritual experience! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
I would bet your grandson has been riding much of his life - certainly for many years? Gabriel started riding when he was about 13 I think, but we started with lessons right from the get go and the girl we chose is a dressage rider. Then he rode her ponies over fences for a couple of years

Re: [IceHorses] OT a foundling

2008-05-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
Pictures, Janice, we want pictures. Nancy

[IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Susan Coombes
You've never needed a tank heater? I have only had horses a year. I didn't know I could get one. I use a kettle which doesn't seem very effective. The pipes to the paddock and stabe freeze too so I carry water from the house to buckets in the yard. It's only for a few days. I don't have

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 01/05/2008, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've never needed a tank heater? Wow.. Sometimes I forget how forgiving other locales are to live in. We have one, but have never used it. We get ice on the top of our tanks sometimes, but so far, never so bad that we can

Re: [IceHorses] OT a foundling

2008-05-01 Thread Jacki Edens
pictures! We need pictures! Jacki

Re: [IceHorses] An Old Image from Old Tolt Magazine

2008-05-01 Thread Skise
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: I thought it was interesting that the noseband was labeled American. And the word tryk was used pointing to the upper and lower portions of the noseband. It's labeled American, because it seems to be originally a piece of tack used in western

Re: [IceHorses] for the grace of god

2008-05-01 Thread Skise
Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: when my nasi was gelded it was found that his ingual ring was open and gut fluid was in his scrotum and the vet said it could have led to hernia where his intestines might have descended into the scrotum. And he said that would be life threatening.

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/1/08, Susan Coombes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've never needed a tank heater? I have only had horses a year. you are pretty sharp for only having had horses a year! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
But any adult would be too heavy I think. Not just me. Even a 120 pound adult would be too heavy at this point I think! If you think he's not physically mature enough to carry even a small adult now, then why be in a rush for a child to sit on him? He's only four today, and I know

[IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
I just pulled out a book I've had for several years, called Equine Liability. There's a whole section on the subject of liability involving children. I'd recommend that anyone who ever has kids over to ride, or who has kids in the neighborhood, read it. (I do allow kids to ride here

Re: [IceHorses] Bill Saddling Beaut

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
On 4/30/08, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What wonderful pictures. And what a nice horse. Yes, an incredible horse, and what was the story of when he got her? I think she was scheduled to be put down she was so mean... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
I think, what I will do, is have Kale (is it Cale? Why someone would name my nephew out of a type of lettuce is beyond me...) get on Nasi and have him ride him up the mobile home stairs, then dive into the geeses wading pool. His life might be endangered but what the heck, maybe it would win the

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
So maybe you can guess why Icetolts hold no pizzazz for me. We deal with ice enough in the winter, no reason to put a show on for it. Ironically, that's probably also why ice tolts are so darned bizarre to me. I know that much of the North American continent has mild enough weather such

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 1 May 2008 08:39:07 -0500, you wrote: name my nephew out of a type of lettuce is beyond me...) It's a cabbage. I must admit I was thinking wow, what a strange name (but I thought maybe it had that spelling but some trendy pronunciation such as Karly and it was just me being un-cool

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Laree Shulman
We have a pond on our new property--there's no fish. Sometimes ducks and geese swim in it. The water is green and murky. Could I just go to Walmart, buy some goldfish and put them in the pond? You would need to go to a good pet store or fish store but I think you can buy Koi that can

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
I think, what I will do, is have Kale . . .get on Nasi and have him ride him up the mobile home stairs, then dive into the geeses wading pool. SNORT!!! Oh Janice, I do so look forward to your posts. -- Renee M. in Michigan

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
We have a pond on our new property--there's no fish. Sometimes ducks and geese swim in it. The water is green and murky. Could I just go to Walmart, buy some goldfish and put them in the pond? You could, but I wouldn't if the idea is to clean the pond. Friends of ours had a BEAUTIFUL,

[IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
Virginia, What about native fish species? Down here, people stock their ponds with bluegill, bass, and catfish.The kids and hubby could fish it that way too. : ) -- Renee M.

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Laree Shulman
There are times when releases of liablity aren't binding, and that's particularly true when kids are involved. Kids can't sign a release for themselves, and if the release is written such that it's binding, it still only prohibits the parent who signed the release from suing - it can't

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 01 May 2008 13:07:55 -, you wrote: I will do a search and see if there is one I could use in the yard. You can get electric wire here which you wrap around the pipes, and which stays just hot enough to stop pipes and taps freezing - maybe a better option in the UK where we don't get

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
Has anyone mentioned the whole attractive nusiance thing yet? Horses are like swimming pools in that respect: It's the horse owners responsibility to keep children out of pastures, paddocks, barns, etc. So, if a young child happens to crawl under your electrified, well-maintained

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
I had a young neighbor girl riding with me a few years ago . . . (Oh geez, she's graduated from High School and is in college, so I guess it's been more than a few years!) She started when she was 12 until about 15.We had a GREAT time together, she riding Soley, me riding Eitill. I even

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
Oh Janice, I do so look forward to your posts. I was thinking that very thing earlier this morning. I consider Janice a national treasure and feel that her quirky wit is quite wasted on yahoo mail lists. Wonder if we could figure a way to market Janice? Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virginia, What about native fish species? Down here, people stock their ponds with bluegill, bass, and catfish.The kids and hubby could fish it that way too. : ) Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout.

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
You could, but I wouldn't if the idea is to clean the pond. Friends of ours had a BEAUTIFUL, springfed, swimming pond on their property. They decided to introduce some koi and ornamental goldfish into it. . . Well, it's not a beautiful swimming pond anymore. The fish

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Also, even with liability releases, if a party can prove any level of negligence (like you knew in advance of the little hole that the horse tripped in and caused the rider to fall and break their arm), the liability release is null and void. It's amazing that any of us let anyone

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone mentioned the whole attractive nusiance thing yet? Horses are like swimming pools in that respect: It's the horse owners responsibility to keep children out of pastures, paddocks, barns, etc. So, if a

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the cute phrases on that site was, The solution to polution is dilution. In other words, the bigger the pond, the easier it is for the pond to find a natural balance. For that reason, the four-foot goldfish

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout. But, where would I buy the stock? Clueless, V In the USA, there are local Ag agents who can help you with those details. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout. But, where would I buy the stock? Clueless, V In the USA, there are local Ag agents who can help you with those details. Karen Thomas, NC I don't think we have such

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
You could, but I wouldn't if the idea is to clean the pond. Friends of ours had a BEAUTIFUL, springfed, swimming pond on their property. They decided to introduce some koi and ornamental goldfish into it. . . Well, it's not a beautiful swimming pond anymore. The fish

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
Virginia, is it algae that is fouling the water?Some folks swear by barley straw as a natural alternative to chemicals: http://ohioline.osu.edu/a-fact/0012.html http://www.bestfish.com/barlybal.html http://www.exoticwaterscapes.com/barley-straw.php?gclid=CPrSydjMhZMCFQh7IgodUwe6BQ --

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout. But, where would I buy the stock? Clueless, V Hmmm. . . I don't know about up there. . . Around here, we have fish farms which advertise in the local paper for stocking fish for farm ponds. Now, it's interesting to me that the previous owners

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virginia, is it algae that is fouling the water?Some folks swear by barley straw as a natural alternative to chemicals: http://ohioline.osu.edu/a-fact/0012.html http://www.bestfish.com/barlybal.html

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. . . I don't know about up there. . . Around here, we have fish farms which advertise in the local paper for stocking fish for farm ponds. I've never seen ads like that, but then, I've never looked before either.

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread susan cooper
Gawd, doesn't it just make ya proud to be a litigation, lawsuit-happy American?!? Absolutely!! As a matter of fact, I was going to call a lawyer about suing The Eagles for my hearing loss. It is a direct result of listening to their music too loud when I was a teenager unable to grasp what I

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
For that reason, the four-foot goldfish pool I imagined became an approximately 6x19 foot pond with two sections, a one-step waterfall between and a bigger waterfall at one end. It works great with VERY little maintenance. So. . . with the waterfalls, I'm assuming there's a circulation

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I was speaking about adding goldfish / koi to a larger, farm pond with dirt bottom situation of half an acre or more -- which is what Virginia has (unless I'm mistaken?). I don't know if you'd call it a farm pond.

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virginia -- Can you clarify:Are we talking about a ornamental pond, or a farm pond? Is there a synthetic liner in it, or a dirt/clay bottom? Is there a pump which circulates or aerates the water in it?With the

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
We were told that the pond is well-fed. I'm assuming it's man-made. The previous owner had a pump shooting water high up into the air Ahhh, okay, you ARE talking about a landscaping pond then, with aeration fountain it sounds like. That will help with clearing the water when you get it

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were told that the pond is well-fed. I'm assuming it's man-made. The previous owner had a pump shooting water high up into the air Ahhh, okay, you ARE talking about a landscaping pond then, with aeration fountain it

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Our pond is roughly 35' x 50', green and murky, and since I know nothing about ponds, I thought if I added fish (or maybe certain plants?) they would take care of balance for me. V Fish could help. Ideally, you can get a balanced eco-system (MOST of the year, anyway) where you

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
is there an equestrian law in your state?? I am just curious. There is one here, and i know in ala and Ga. I have a big one posted on my front gate. Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/1/08, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if we could figure a way to market Janice? Nancy I'm quite sure that if you do, I am the only one who wont profit off it haha Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
I don't think we have such people because I've looked and haven't found any. I did find a local Koi farm and I think I'll contact the owner--he sells pond lilies, and other pond supplies. Maybe he can tell me what would be best to do. A pond is a pond, no matter what the size.

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
You would need to go to a good pet store or fish store but I think you can buy Koi that can winter in a pond even in the harshest of climes - you would just need to check - but your local Wal-Mart variety wouldn't make it through the winter. Oh I don't know about that! We've tried

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
I DREAD when my girls are in school and their little friends start coming over, wanting to ride the ponies. . . .Or they want to have birthday parties with pony rides It's so ridiculous here with the lawsuits. On the other hand, there ARE the inherent risk laws that protect owners

Re: [IceHorses] OT a foundling

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/1/08, Jacki Edens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pictures! We need pictures! Jacki I was thinking when the nephews come over this weekend, the two year old and baby geese would make a great photo op if I can only figure out how to keep them all together... Janice -- even good horses have

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Virginia, is it algae that is fouling the water?Some folks swear by barley straw as a natural alternative to chemicals: We don't use any chemicals for algae, etc., nor have we ever used anything like straw. From all that we've read, the more that humans interfere with the natural

Re: [IceHorses] hey judy

2008-05-01 Thread Judy Ryder
you posted a url to a youtube or some video where a young woman or girl was playing at liberty with her icelandic ? Do you know how I can find that? Could it be these videos? http://iceryder.blogspot.com/2008/04/hvuiski-icelandic-horse-stallion-and.html Judy http://iceryder.net

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity...

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
Absolutely!! As a matter of fact, I was going to call a lawyer about suing The Eagles for my hearing loss. And I'm going to sue McDonalds because I'm fat. . . Oh wait, that's been done. . . If only my mother was still alive, I could sue her because I was a 9 lb. 3 oz. baby and if she

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good luck! Boy, this new farm is just turning out to be one educational adventure after another, isn't it? : ) Very true!! Oh--and there's a vegetable garden plot--empty. I don't know what was grown there but I'll

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Virginia -- Can you clarify:Are we talking about a ornamental pond, or a farm pond? Is there a synthetic liner in it, or a dirt/clay bottom? Is there a pump which circulates or aerates the water in it?With the size you gave of 35' x 50', it could be either a very large

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the bigger deal is whether Virginia might want to use the pond for fishing or for natural beauty. I'm more interested in it being a natural beauty. I know my kids would love to watch the fish. Another thought I

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Mic Rushen
Where would I find one? I definitely need it. I HAVE to soak hay for Corrie but there is no water down there some days when it's frozen. I don't mind frozen hands, better than seeing her cough. Sue Coombes The only one on ebay at the moment is this one in the USA:

[IceHorses] Re: Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Susan Coombes
Virginia, is it algae that is fouling the water?Some folks swear by barley straw as a natural alternative to chemicals: My neighbour uses barley straw in his pond/fishing lake. It is very effective. Susan coombes

Re: [IceHorses] hey judy

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
no, but thats a good one:) The one I wanted was the one where a girl is playing at liberty with her horse, and I think he even lays down. A friend at work sent me a video saying this is really beautiful and its a guy whose horse is miserable and has its ears back the whole time and I wanted her

Re: [IceHorses] hey judy

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
Here is the video she sent. Do you see the horses are unhappy? At first i thought they were like mine, will pin ears at one another when I am with them, because they are jealous, but his does it when alone with him, and one even goes after him in what appears to be an aggressive manner. also,

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Ann Cassidy
But--I don't know if it would be a good idea for the horses having free access to the pond (I've seen photos where ponds are fenced to keep the horses out). We have a big pond that dries up during our summers but when it has water in it the horses love to go in and romp around. We have a

[IceHorses] Treeless saddle

2008-05-01 Thread Mic Rushen
Anyone know this sort? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Treeless-Saddle-TREKKER-ICELANDIC-Black-17-NEW_W0QQitemZ370047033511QQihZ024QQcategoryZ72594QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Kimberly Morton
On 4/30/08, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nasi has been trained up til now to whoa, go, stand still at the mounting block while I lean over him waving arms around, wiggle the saddle vigorously, slap the stirrups against his side etc. He is fine with all that. just stands there. I

[IceHorses] Re: Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Susan Coombes
Oh--and there's a vegetable garden plot--empty. I don't know what was grown there but I'll probably buy some started plants and see what happens. Clueless but willing to learn! V Growing vegetables is great fun. You do need a sense of humor though as you won't be the only ones eating the

Re: [IceHorses] hey judy

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
those horses are mad at something, i dont know if its each other or what. But Tommy Turvey or pat parelli's horses don't ear pin like that, not with each other or strange horses or with the trainer. My stonewall and Traveller do, jealous of each other from birth, but not when I am working with

Re: [IceHorses] Treeless saddle

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
I had a trekker but a different model. It was ok but the stirrups didnt hang right for me. The sensation stirrup hanger deal works with it tho... Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
We have a big pond that dries up during our summers but when it has water in it the horses love to go in and romp around. We have a threatened turtle species that lives in it too and goes to the creek when the pond dries. I do worry a bit the horses will step on the turtles but love

Re: [IceHorses] hey judy

2008-05-01 Thread Judy Ryder
no, but thats a good one:) The one I wanted was the one where a girl is playing at liberty with her horse, and I think he even lays down. This is not the one, but this is good, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_vvc7-GmOU or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA2ZKnL6B8M maybe

[IceHorses] Re: Treeless saddle

2008-05-01 Thread Susan Coombes
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know this sort? They are advertised for sale on equine whispers site http://www.equinewhispers.co.uk/icelandic.html There is some info about it there otherwise I know nothing Sue coombes

[IceHorses] interesting site rekel jeffrey, foal being born and other stuff

2008-05-01 Thread Susan Coombes
http://www.youtube.com/user/artroland I found this guy interesting. I liked the video of the foal being born. sue coombes

[IceHorses] Re: Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Becky
I DREAD when my girls are in school and their little friends start coming over, wanting to ride the ponies. . . .Or they want to have birthday parties with pony rides It's so ridiculous here with the lawsuits. On the other hand, there ARE the inherent risk laws that protect

Re: [IceHorses] Treeless saddle

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Anyone know this sort? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Treeless-Saddle-TREKKER-ICELANDIC-Black-17-NEW_W0QQitemZ370047033511QQihZ024QQcategoryZ72594QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Those newer style treeless saddles that have the built-in panels that have the built-in panels have gotten some

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Ann Cassidy
But, we didn't include the ponds in our fenced area, because there have been muskrats around them for a long time - my grandpa built these two ponds in the 1920's, using mules and scoop pans, so who knows when the muskrats started building their tunnels. T Wow muskrats how nice. On my

Re: [IceHorses] Zen Moments

2008-05-01 Thread Judy Ryder
I have recently leaned over his back a couple times, but not all the way on. So in this zen moment, I put a sidepull on him, and jumped on bareback. He stood real nice, then he took a few steps, figuring out his balance, also stopped on a really light touch, very nicely. Very nice, Kim!

Re: [IceHorses] Treeless saddle

2008-05-01 Thread Judy Ryder
Anyone know this sort? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Treeless-Saddle-TREKKER-ICELANDIC-Black-17-NEW_W0QQitemZ370047033511QQihZ024QQcategoryZ72594QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Is there any place that shows you where the stirrups are hung? Anything about the design or construction? Judy

Re: [IceHorses] What's In Your Saddle

2008-05-01 Thread Judy Ryder
What's in your saddle... and is it crooked? http://www.newrider.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144231 I see so many crooked trees. I can't imagine putting a crooked tree on a horse, but when you think about it, why would we put any solid frame on a horse that is continually changing shape

Re: [IceHorses] Treeless saddle

2008-05-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:38:46 -0700, you wrote: Is there any place that shows you where the stirrups are hung? Anything about the design or construction? No, couldn't find anything. I'm not in the market for one, just hadn't seen or heard of them before. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
Hey Virginia, You asked about fencing the pond in for the horses. . . And it occurred to me: When it becomes winter and your pond freezes over, you can have your own icetolts. SNORT! (Sorry, couldn't resist. . . . ) Renee M. in Michigan

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Laree Shulman
Growing vegetables is great fun. You do need a sense of humor though as you won't be the only ones eating the produce! I had a vegetable garden for several years (V- I learned a lot from the Gardening for Dummies book) About 3 years into it, I decided to give corn a try. I planted my seeds,

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Laree Shulman
I don't think we have such people because I've looked and haven't found any. I did find a local Koi farm and I think I'll contact the owner--he sells pond lilies, and other pond supplies. Maybe he can tell me what would be best to do. Smartest idea of all -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon,

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Don't be lulled into a false sense of security because you pepper your property with signs..they are not foolproof. Nor are signed releases. No, it's definitely a balance. I think the signs and releases are basically worthless, unless you are careful in virtually every respect

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
I just had the same idea yesterday. I've finally gotten my horses in to a situation that is much closer to my house, only a few miles, where I can see them everyday. Good to hear from you, Kim. I thought about you just a couple of days ago. Good to hear that you're well and glad you've

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
A shame it isn't like it used to be. Becky in FL I agree 100% Becky.We've litigated ourselves to the point where it's almost fool-hardy to be neighborly as in letting the neighbor kids ride your pony, letting someone try out your horse to feel the tolt, letting people use or ride your

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity...

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/1/08, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely!! As a matter of fact, I was going to call a lawyer about suing The Eagles for my hearing loss. And I'm going to sue McDonalds because I'm fat. . . Oh wait, that's been done. . . what the fla, Ga, ala equestrian laws say

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity...

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
This is what it says, and I have a big sign saying it on my front gate and so does everyone else I know who has horses. WARNING Under Florida law, an equine activity sponsor or equine professional is not liable for an injury to, or the death of, a participant in equine activities resulting from

[IceHorses] Kim's big day (was nasi's big day)

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
- Original Message - From: Kimberly Morton I also have lost 40 lbs over the last several months, Woo hoo!: ) That's awesome.I'm green! I think my point is that riding a horse for the first time does not have to be a dangerous, dramatic affair, Exactly. And I think for

Re: [IceHorses] Laree's Corn

2008-05-01 Thread Judy Ryder
on time, get about 2-3 inches tal and disappear! I couldn't figure out what was happeningcorn got just the right heigth, the crows would land, pull up the plants and eat the seed ...put a lawn chair in the middle of the garden, took some old jeans and a shirt and stuffed them with

[IceHorses] 37 yo Horse in CTR

2008-05-01 Thread Judy Ryder
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=11767 Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity...

2008-05-01 Thread Laree Shulman
basically, from what I understand, if you even have someone over to your house to ride with you, you are an equine activity sponsor Janice Janice - This is a misunderstanding about these liability laws and signs - we have the same thing in NC. Even with those signs if a person can prove that

Re: [IceHorses] 37 yo Horse in CTR

2008-05-01 Thread Laree Shulman
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=11767 That's cool - I bet he's one of those horses that just wouldn't be happy in retirement -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
some times people need to be sued tho. if they have KNOWN there was a problem they didnt fix, or warn people about. janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Kentucky International Equine Summit

2008-05-01 Thread Judy Ryder
Keeneland Race Track installed Polytrack...transition to this synthetic surface. The reason for the change was revealed during the session on The Safety of Horses: A Long-Term View. We felt the safety of the horse and rider was not coming first and that was unacceptable, You need to listen to

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