I used to keep fish in my water tank but one year my tank water
heater
broke down and all the fish froze.
Pat G., in MN
Where do you get a tank water heater? Is it battery or mains?
Sue Coombes
Finally, here's a couple of pictures of Bill with his hoist which
enabled
him to be able to saddle Beaut by himself, in the later years.
Thanks Judy for the photos,
I'm in the process or re-reading Bill's book as night time reading. It
is even better second time around. I am also doing the
What gait for this Tennesee Walking Horse
http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-tennessee-walker-
in-belgium.html
Mostly flat walk.Some ordinary walk in the middle and a little running
walk near the end.
Sue Coombes
2008/5/1 Susan Coombes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Where do you get a tank water heater? Is it battery or mains?
Sue Coombes
You've never needed a tank heater?
Wow.. Sometimes I forget how forgiving other locales are to live in.
Ice and snow are no thrill...
Oh..in answer to your question, you plug
You've never needed a tank heater? Wow.. Sometimes I forget how
forgiving other
locales are to live in.
We have one, but have never used it. We get ice on the top of our tanks
sometimes, but
so far, never so bad that we can stir it and break it. We have tanks that are
pretty deep
I agree with you completely and then I am going to confess that I just
asked my
grandson to do the first few rides on Yrsa. The difference here is that
Gabriel is 17 and
a better, more balanced rider than I am and he probably weighs more. He's
certainly
more agile and athletic
for two years now my geese lay huge piles of eggs and set them for
months and never hatch anything. Then last nite my husband calls me
at work and says I had six geese hatch out! He said all were doing
great, but one he is scrawney and stunted and the mom kicked him out
of the nest so something
http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-tennessee-walker-in-belgium.html
Walking for the most part. I'd say mostly flat walking, with some regular
walking and
maybe a couple of short parts that might have been running walk. I think I
also saw one
brief glimpse of step pace,
I have ground driven him a few times but he is way better at it than
me! But he doesnt pull and drag on me. He is a very lackadaisacal
nonchalant guy. I think it will be ok. Trust me. I know my horses
and if he is the least bit uncomfortable or even fretting I will just
let Kale waller all
wow, has to be an awesome group... their suggested reading is Lee Z,
Bill Dorrance and Eckhardt Tolle! Jeez would be a spiritual
experience!
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
I would bet your grandson has been riding much of his life - certainly
for many years?
Gabriel started riding when he was about 13 I think, but we started with
lessons right from the get go and the girl we chose is a dressage rider.
Then he rode her ponies over fences for a couple of years
Pictures, Janice, we want pictures.
Nancy
You've never needed a tank heater?
I have only had horses a year. I didn't know I could get one. I use a
kettle which doesn't seem very effective. The pipes to the paddock and
stabe freeze too so I carry water from the house to buckets in the
yard. It's only for a few days. I don't have
On 01/05/2008, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You've never needed a tank heater? Wow.. Sometimes I forget how
forgiving other
locales are to live in.
We have one, but have never used it. We get ice on the top of our tanks
sometimes, but
so far, never so bad that we can
pictures! We need pictures!
Jacki
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
I thought it was interesting that the noseband was labeled American. And
the word tryk was used pointing to the upper and lower portions of the
noseband.
It's labeled American, because it seems to be originally a piece of tack used
in western
Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
when my nasi was gelded it was found that his ingual ring was open and
gut fluid was in his scrotum and the vet said it could have led to
hernia where his intestines might have descended into the scrotum. And
he said that would be life threatening.
On 5/1/08, Susan Coombes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You've never needed a tank heater?
I have only had horses a year.
you are pretty sharp for only having had horses a year!
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
But any adult would be too heavy I think. Not just me. Even a 120 pound
adult would
be too heavy at this point I think!
If you think he's not physically mature enough to carry even a small adult now,
then why
be in a rush for a child to sit on him? He's only four today, and I know
I just pulled out a book I've had for several years, called Equine Liability.
There's a
whole section on the subject of liability involving children. I'd recommend
that anyone
who ever has kids over to ride, or who has kids in the neighborhood, read it.
(I do allow
kids to ride here
On 4/30/08, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What wonderful pictures. And what a nice horse.
Yes, an incredible horse, and what was the story of when he got her?
I think she was scheduled to be put down she was so mean...
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
I think, what I will do, is have Kale (is it Cale? Why someone would
name my nephew out of a type of lettuce is beyond me...) get on Nasi
and have him ride him up the mobile home stairs, then dive into the
geeses wading pool. His life might be endangered but what the heck,
maybe it would win the
So maybe you can guess why Icetolts hold no pizzazz for me. We deal with
ice enough
in the winter, no reason to put a show on for it.
Ironically, that's probably also why ice tolts are so darned bizarre to me. I
know that
much of the North American continent has mild enough weather such
On Thu, 1 May 2008 08:39:07 -0500, you wrote:
name my nephew out of a type of lettuce is beyond me...)
It's a cabbage. I must admit I was thinking wow, what a strange
name (but I thought maybe it had that spelling but some trendy
pronunciation such as Karly and it was just me being un-cool
We have a pond on our new property--there's no fish. Sometimes ducks
and geese swim in it. The water is green and murky. Could I just go
to Walmart, buy some goldfish and put them in the pond?
You would need to go to a good pet store or fish store but I think you
can buy Koi that can
I think, what I will do, is have Kale . . .get on Nasi
and have him ride him up the mobile home stairs, then dive into the
geeses wading pool.
SNORT!!!
Oh Janice, I do so look forward to your posts.
-- Renee M. in Michigan
We have a pond on our new property--there's no fish. Sometimes ducks and
geese swim in it. The water is green and murky. Could I just go to
Walmart, buy some goldfish and put them in the pond?
You could, but I wouldn't if the idea is to clean the pond.
Friends of ours had a BEAUTIFUL,
Virginia,
What about native fish species? Down here, people stock their ponds
with bluegill, bass, and catfish.The kids and hubby could fish it that
way too. : )
-- Renee M.
There are times when
releases of liablity aren't binding, and that's particularly true when kids
are involved.
Kids can't sign a release for themselves, and if the release is written such
that it's
binding, it still only prohibits the parent who signed the release from suing
- it can't
On Thu, 01 May 2008 13:07:55 -, you wrote:
I will do a search and see if there is one I could use in the yard.
You can get electric wire here which you wrap around the pipes, and
which stays just hot enough to stop pipes and taps freezing - maybe a
better option in the UK where we don't get
Has anyone mentioned the whole attractive nusiance thing yet? Horses are
like swimming pools in that respect: It's the horse owners responsibility
to keep children out of pastures, paddocks, barns, etc. So, if a young
child happens to crawl under your electrified, well-maintained
I had a young neighbor girl riding with me a few years ago . . . (Oh geez,
she's graduated from High School and is in college, so I guess it's been
more than a few years!) She started when she was 12 until about 15.We
had a GREAT time together, she riding Soley, me riding Eitill. I even
Oh Janice, I do so look forward to your posts.
I was thinking that very thing earlier this morning. I consider Janice a
national treasure and feel that her quirky wit is quite wasted on yahoo
mail lists. Wonder if we could figure a way to market Janice?
Nancy
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Virginia,
What about native fish species? Down here, people stock their ponds
with bluegill, bass, and catfish.The kids and hubby could fish it that
way too. : )
Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout.
You could, but I wouldn't if the idea is to clean the pond. Friends of
ours had a
BEAUTIFUL, springfed, swimming pond on their property. They decided to
introduce
some koi and ornamental goldfish into it. . . Well, it's not a beautiful
swimming
pond anymore. The fish
Also, even with liability releases, if a party can prove any level of
negligence
(like you knew in advance of the little hole that the horse tripped in and
caused the
rider to fall and break their arm), the liability release is null and void.
It's
amazing that any of us let anyone
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone mentioned the whole attractive nusiance thing yet? Horses are
like swimming pools in that respect: It's the horse owners responsibility
to keep children out of pastures, paddocks, barns, etc. So, if a
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the cute
phrases on that site was, The solution to polution is dilution. In other
words, the
bigger the pond, the easier it is for the pond to find a natural balance.
For that
reason, the four-foot goldfish
Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout. But, where would I buy the
stock?
Clueless, V
In the USA, there are local Ag agents who can help you with those details.
Karen Thomas, NC
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout. But, where would I buy the
stock?
Clueless, V
In the USA, there are local Ag agents who can help you with those details.
Karen Thomas, NC
I don't think we have such
You could, but I wouldn't if the idea is to clean the pond. Friends
of ours had a BEAUTIFUL, springfed, swimming pond on their property.
They decided to introduce some koi and ornamental goldfish into it. .
. Well, it's not a beautiful swimming pond anymore. The fish
Virginia, is it algae that is fouling the water?Some folks swear by
barley straw as a natural alternative to chemicals:
http://ohioline.osu.edu/a-fact/0012.html
http://www.bestfish.com/barlybal.html
http://www.exoticwaterscapes.com/barley-straw.php?gclid=CPrSydjMhZMCFQh7IgodUwe6BQ
--
Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout. But, where would I buy the
stock?
Clueless, V
Hmmm. . . I don't know about up there. . . Around here, we have fish farms
which advertise in the local paper for stocking fish for farm ponds.
Now, it's interesting to me that the previous owners
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Virginia, is it algae that is fouling the water?Some folks swear by
barley straw as a natural alternative to chemicals:
http://ohioline.osu.edu/a-fact/0012.html
http://www.bestfish.com/barlybal.html
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm. . . I don't know about up there. . . Around here, we have fish farms
which advertise in the local paper for stocking fish for farm ponds.
I've never seen ads like that, but then, I've never looked before either.
Gawd, doesn't it just make ya proud to be a
litigation, lawsuit-happy American?!?
Absolutely!! As a matter of fact, I was going to call
a lawyer about suing The Eagles for my hearing loss.
It is a direct result of listening to their music too
loud when I was a teenager unable to grasp what I
For that reason, the four-foot goldfish pool I imagined became an
approximately 6x19 foot pond with two sections, a one-step waterfall
between and a bigger waterfall at one end. It works great with VERY
little maintenance.
So. . . with the waterfalls, I'm assuming there's a circulation
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I was speaking
about adding goldfish / koi to a larger, farm pond with dirt bottom
situation of half an acre or more -- which is what Virginia has (unless I'm
mistaken?).
I don't know if you'd call it a farm pond.
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Virginia -- Can you clarify:Are we talking about a ornamental pond, or a
farm pond? Is there a synthetic liner in it, or a dirt/clay bottom?
Is there a pump which circulates or aerates the water in it?With the
We were told that the pond is well-fed. I'm assuming it's man-made. The
previous owner had a pump shooting water high up into the air
Ahhh, okay, you ARE talking about a landscaping pond then, with aeration
fountain it sounds like. That will help with clearing the water when you
get it
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We were told that the pond is well-fed. I'm assuming it's man-made. The
previous owner had a pump shooting water high up into the air
Ahhh, okay, you ARE talking about a landscaping pond then, with aeration
fountain it
Our pond is roughly 35' x 50', green and murky, and since I know nothing
about
ponds, I thought if I added fish (or maybe certain plants?) they would
take care of
balance for me. V
Fish could help. Ideally, you can get a balanced eco-system (MOST of the year,
anyway)
where you
is there an equestrian law in your state?? I am just curious. There
is one here, and i know in ala and Ga. I have a big one posted on my
front gate.
Janice--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
On 5/1/08, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wonder if we could figure a way to market Janice?
Nancy
I'm quite sure that if you do, I am the only one who wont profit off it haha
Janice--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
I don't think we have such people because I've looked and haven't found
any. I did
find a local Koi farm and I think I'll contact the owner--he sells pond
lilies, and
other pond supplies. Maybe he can tell me what would be best to do.
A pond is a pond, no matter what the size.
You would need to go to a good pet store or fish store but I think you can
buy Koi
that can winter in a pond even in the harshest of climes - you would just
need to
check - but your local Wal-Mart variety wouldn't make it through the
winter.
Oh I don't know about that! We've tried
I DREAD when my girls are in school and their little friends start coming
over,
wanting to ride the ponies. . . .Or they want to have birthday parties
with pony
rides It's so ridiculous here with the lawsuits.
On the other hand, there ARE the inherent risk laws that protect owners
On 5/1/08, Jacki Edens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pictures! We need pictures!
Jacki
I was thinking when the nephews come over this weekend, the two year
old and baby geese would make a great photo op if I can only figure
out how to keep them all together...
Janice
--
even good horses have
Virginia, is it algae that is fouling the water?Some folks swear by
barley straw
as a natural alternative to chemicals:
We don't use any chemicals for algae, etc., nor have we ever used anything like
straw.
From all that we've read, the more that humans interfere with the natural
you posted a url to a youtube or some video where a young woman or
girl was playing at liberty with her icelandic ? Do you know how I
can find that?
Could it be these videos?
http://iceryder.blogspot.com/2008/04/hvuiski-icelandic-horse-stallion-and.html
Judy
http://iceryder.net
Absolutely!! As a matter of fact, I was going to call
a lawyer about suing The Eagles for my hearing loss.
And I'm going to sue McDonalds because I'm fat. . . Oh wait, that's been
done. . .
If only my mother was still alive, I could sue her because I was a 9 lb. 3
oz. baby and if she
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good luck! Boy, this new farm is just turning out to be one educational
adventure after another, isn't it? : )
Very true!!
Oh--and there's a vegetable garden plot--empty. I don't know what was
grown there but I'll
Virginia -- Can you clarify:Are we talking about a ornamental pond, or
a farm
pond? Is there a synthetic liner in it, or a dirt/clay bottom? Is
there a pump
which circulates or aerates the water in it?With the size you gave of
35' x 50',
it could be either a very large
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the bigger deal is whether Virginia might want to use the pond for
fishing or for
natural beauty.
I'm more interested in it being a natural beauty. I know my kids
would love to watch the fish.
Another thought I
Where would I find one? I definitely need it. I HAVE to soak hay for
Corrie but there is no water down there some days when it's frozen. I
don't mind frozen hands, better than seeing her cough.
Sue Coombes
The only one on ebay at the moment is this one in the USA:
Virginia, is it algae that is fouling the water?Some folks swear
by
barley straw as a natural alternative to chemicals:
My neighbour uses barley straw in his pond/fishing lake. It is very
effective.
Susan coombes
no, but thats a good one:) The one I wanted was the one where a girl
is playing at liberty with her horse, and I think he even lays down.
A friend at work sent me a video saying this is really beautiful and
its a guy whose horse is miserable and has its ears back the whole
time and I wanted her
Here is the video she sent. Do you see the horses are unhappy? At
first i thought they were like mine, will pin ears at one another when
I am with them, because they are jealous, but his does it when alone
with him, and one even goes after him in what appears to be an
aggressive manner. also,
But--I don't know if it
would be a good idea for the horses having free
access to the pond (I've seen photos where ponds are fenced to keep
the horses out).
We have a big pond that dries up during our summers but when it has
water in it the horses love to go in and romp around. We have a
Anyone know this sort?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Treeless-Saddle-TREKKER-ICELANDIC-Black-17-NEW_W0QQitemZ370047033511QQihZ024QQcategoryZ72594QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
On 4/30/08, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
nasi has been trained up til now to whoa, go, stand still at the
mounting block while I lean over him waving arms around, wiggle the
saddle vigorously, slap the stirrups against his side etc. He is fine
with all that. just stands there. I
Oh--and there's a vegetable garden plot--empty. I don't know what was
grown there but I'll probably buy some started plants and see what
happens. Clueless but willing to learn!
V
Growing vegetables is great fun. You do need a sense of humor though as
you won't be the only ones eating the
those horses are mad at something, i dont know if its each other or
what. But Tommy Turvey or pat parelli's horses don't ear pin like
that, not with each other or strange horses or with the trainer. My
stonewall and Traveller do, jealous of each other from birth, but not
when I am working with
I had a trekker but a different model. It was ok but the stirrups
didnt hang right for me. The sensation stirrup hanger deal works with
it tho...
Janice--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
We have a big pond that dries up during our summers but when it has water
in it the
horses love to go in and romp around. We have a threatened turtle species
that lives
in it too and goes to the creek when the pond dries. I do worry a bit the
horses will
step on the turtles but love
no, but thats a good one:) The one I wanted was the one where a girl
is playing at liberty with her horse, and I think he even lays down.
This is not the one, but this is good, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_vvc7-GmOU
or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA2ZKnL6B8M
maybe
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone know this sort?
They are advertised for sale on equine whispers site
http://www.equinewhispers.co.uk/icelandic.html
There is some info about it there
otherwise I know nothing
Sue coombes
http://www.youtube.com/user/artroland
I found this guy interesting. I liked the video of the foal being born.
sue coombes
I DREAD when my girls are in school and their little friends
start coming over,
wanting to ride the ponies. . . .Or they want to have birthday
parties with pony
rides It's so ridiculous here with the lawsuits.
On the other hand, there ARE the inherent risk laws that protect
Anyone know this sort?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Treeless-Saddle-TREKKER-ICELANDIC-Black-17-NEW_W0QQitemZ370047033511QQihZ024QQcategoryZ72594QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Those newer style treeless saddles that have the built-in panels that have the
built-in
panels have gotten some
But,
we didn't include the ponds in our fenced area, because there have been
muskrats around
them for a long time - my grandpa built these two ponds in the 1920's, using
mules and
scoop pans, so who knows when the muskrats started building their tunnels. T
Wow muskrats how nice. On my
I have recently leaned over his back a couple times, but
not all the way on. So in this zen moment, I put a sidepull on him,
and jumped on bareback. He stood real nice, then he took a few steps,
figuring out his balance, also stopped on a really light touch, very
nicely.
Very nice, Kim!
Anyone know this sort?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Treeless-Saddle-TREKKER-ICELANDIC-Black-17-NEW_W0QQitemZ370047033511QQihZ024QQcategoryZ72594QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Is there any place that shows you where the stirrups are hung?
Anything about the design or construction?
Judy
What's in your saddle... and is it crooked?
http://www.newrider.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144231
I see so many crooked trees. I can't imagine putting a crooked tree on a
horse, but when you think about it, why would we put any solid frame on a
horse that is continually changing shape
On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:38:46 -0700, you wrote:
Is there any place that shows you where the stirrups are hung?
Anything about the design or construction?
No, couldn't find anything. I'm not in the market for one, just hadn't
seen or heard of them before.
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
Hey Virginia,
You asked about fencing the pond in for the horses. . .
And it occurred to me: When it becomes winter and your pond freezes over,
you can have your own icetolts.
SNORT!
(Sorry, couldn't resist. . . . )
Renee M. in Michigan
Growing vegetables is great fun. You do need a sense of humor though as
you won't be the only ones eating the produce!
I had a vegetable garden for several years (V- I learned a lot from
the Gardening for Dummies book) About 3 years into it, I decided to
give corn a try. I planted my seeds,
I don't think we have such people because I've looked and haven't
found any. I did find a local Koi farm and I think I'll contact the
owner--he sells pond lilies, and other pond supplies. Maybe he can
tell me what would be best to do.
Smartest idea of all
--
Laree in NC
Doppa Mura
Simon,
Don't be lulled into a false sense of security because you pepper your
property with
signs..they are not foolproof. Nor are signed releases.
No, it's definitely a balance. I think the signs and releases are basically
worthless,
unless you are careful in virtually every respect
I just had the same idea yesterday. I've finally gotten my horses in to a
situation
that is much closer to my house, only a few miles, where I can see them
everyday.
Good to hear from you, Kim. I thought about you just a couple of days ago.
Good to hear
that you're well and glad you've
A shame it isn't like it used to be.
Becky in FL
I agree 100% Becky.We've litigated ourselves to the point where it's
almost fool-hardy to be neighborly as in letting the neighbor kids ride
your pony, letting someone try out your horse to feel the tolt, letting
people use or ride your
On 5/1/08, Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Absolutely!! As a matter of fact, I was going to call
a lawyer about suing The Eagles for my hearing loss.
And I'm going to sue McDonalds because I'm fat. . . Oh wait, that's been
done. . .
what the fla, Ga, ala equestrian laws say
This is what it says, and I have a big sign saying it on my front gate
and so does everyone else I know who has horses.
WARNING
Under Florida law, an equine activity sponsor or equine professional
is not liable for an injury to, or the death of, a participant in
equine activities resulting from
- Original Message -
From: Kimberly Morton
I also have lost 40 lbs over the
last several months,
Woo hoo!: ) That's awesome.I'm green!
I think my point is that riding a horse
for the first time does not have to be a dangerous, dramatic affair,
Exactly. And I think for
on time, get about 2-3 inches tal and disappear! I couldn't figure
out what was happeningcorn got just the right heigth, the crows would
land, pull up the
plants and eat the seed ...put a lawn chair in the middle of the garden,
took some
old jeans and a shirt and stuffed them with
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=11767
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
basically, from what I understand, if you even have someone over to
your house to ride with you, you are an equine activity sponsor
Janice
Janice - This is a misunderstanding about these liability laws and
signs - we have the same thing in NC. Even with those signs if a
person can prove that
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=11767
That's cool - I bet he's one of those horses that just wouldn't be
happy in retirement
--
Laree in NC
Doppa Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)
Yet when all the books
some times people need to be sued tho. if they have KNOWN there was a
problem they didnt fix, or warn people about.
janice--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Keeneland Race Track installed Polytrack...transition to this synthetic
surface. The reason
for the change was revealed during the session on The Safety of Horses: A
Long-Term View.
We felt the safety of the horse and rider was not coming first and that was
unacceptable, You need to listen to
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