Re: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-routing-header-07

2011-12-23 Thread Jonathan Hui (johui)
is to define the scope based on interfaces. That is not the same as limiting the scope to a collection of RPL routers. -- Jonathan Hui On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Robert Cragie robert.cra...@gridmerge.com wrote: Hi Jonathan, Some comments and questions below. Robert On 22/12/2011 6:02

Re: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-routing-header-07

2011-12-22 Thread Jonathan Hui
requires a little more thought. Can you propose the exact processing rules that would clearly limit a routing header to a RPL routing domain? -- Jonathan Hui IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative

Re: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-routing-header-07

2011-12-22 Thread Jonathan Hui
invalidate the Security Considerations section. -- Jonathan Hui IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6

Re: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-routing-header-07

2011-12-21 Thread Jonathan Hui
: In the above scenario, datagrams travel from S to D through LBR - In the above scenario, datagrams travel from S to D through the RPL Border Router LBR (referred to as LBRs in [I- D.ietf-roll-terminology]). Reason for change: Clarify what LBR is. Agree. Thanks again. -- Jonathan Hui

Re: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-routing-header-07

2011-12-21 Thread Jonathan Hui
process. Jari, would you support reverting the scope of the RPL SRH to a RPL routing domain rather than a RPL Instance? Thanks. -- Jonathan Hui On Dec 21, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Mukul Goyal wrote: Jonathan I described the problem in the message I sent just now. I think RPL Instance

Re: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-routing-header-07

2011-12-21 Thread Jonathan Hui
definition is the tuple (RPLInstanceID, DODAGID) uniquely identifies a DODAG. -- Jonathan Hui IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6

Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-option-06.txt

2011-12-16 Thread Jonathan Hui
(this time applying case 2 or 3). RPL can support a hierarchy of RPL routing topologies. Does that help? -- Jonathan Hui On Dec 16, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Park, Kundok wrote: Hi, Jonathan, I have a question on the following text on version 6, on page 8. 2. Datagrams destined elsewhere

Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-option-06.txt

2011-12-16 Thread Jonathan Hui
. In this case, the outer-most header now refers to TunnelB. If the RPL router is not the exit-point for TunnelB, it applies either Case 2 or 3. This is typically how nested tunnels are handled in IPv6. -- Jonathan Hui On Dec 16, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Park, Kundok wrote: Hi, Jonathan, Thanks for your

Re: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-option questions

2011-11-10 Thread Jonathan Hui
the changes in my updates to address the LC comments. Thanks. -- Jonathan Hui IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6

Re: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-option questions

2011-11-10 Thread Jonathan Hui
directly within the original packet. Otherwise, routers MUST use IPv6-in-IPv6 tunneling [RFC2473] to include a new RPL Option in datagrams that are sourced by other nodes. Does this address your concern? -- Jonathan Hui On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Reddy, Joseph wrote: Hi Jonathan

Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-routing-header-04.txt

2011-10-11 Thread Jonathan Hui
pseudocode to match the text on sending back a parameter problem error. - Recommend that non-RPL devices drop packets with SRH by default. - Clarify packet structure figures. - State that checking for cycles represents significant per-packet processing. -- Jonathan Hui Begin forwarded message: From

Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rpl-option-04.txt

2011-10-11 Thread Jonathan Hui
SHOULD to MUST. - Specify RPL Border Router operations in terms of forwarding decision outcomes. - Expand security section. -- Jonathan Hui Begin forwarded message: From: internet-dra...@ietf.org Date: October 11, 2011 10:17:15 PM PDT To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: I-D

Re: AD review of draft-ietf-6man-rpl-routing-header

2011-09-16 Thread Jonathan Hui
., state upfront that it requires significant per-packet processing. Then the issue would at least not be a surprise to anyone. Thoughts? I think it is reasonable to call out the costs up front. We will make this change in the next revision unless there are alternative ideas. Thanks. -- Jonathan

Re: AD review of draft-ietf-6man-rpl-option

2011-09-16 Thread Jonathan Hui
. OK Thanks. -- Jonathan Hui IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6

Re: AD review of draft-ietf-6man-rpl-routing-header

2011-07-29 Thread Jonathan Hui
. -- Jonathan Hui IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6

Re: AD review of draft-ietf-6man-rpl-option

2011-07-29 Thread Jonathan Hui
actually right as far as 11.2 goes, because it contains tons of MUSTs and SHOULDs. Perhaps you want to fix that in AUTH48... Right. Thanks. -- Jonathan Hui IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative

Re: Comment on rpl-routing-header draft

2011-04-22 Thread Jonathan Hui
needs to be done to directly insert the extension header in the packet (and the risks involved with doing so). Note that this draft has expired. Is there interest to revive it? -- Jonathan Hui On Apr 21, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Reddy, Joseph wrote: ( resending as original post didn’t go through

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-14 Thread Jonathan Hui
Hi Erik, On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Erik Nordmark wrote: On 06/10/10 12:31 PM, Jonathan Hui wrote: So a packet sent by R1 that will be forwarded outside of the ROLL network will have a outer IPv6 header whose destination is the BR? That is where we started. Draft-01 does have a line

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan Hui
On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Erik Nordmark wrote: On 06/10/10 12:06 PM, Jonathan Hui wrote: On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Erik Nordmark wrote: When IPv6-in-IPv6 tunneling is used, what is the destination IP address in the outer header? Normally it would be the router that would strip

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-10 Thread Jonathan Hui
at a border router, but it shouldn't process/maintain an existing RH4 across a RPL domain boundary. -- Jonathan Hui IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman

Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-09 Thread Jonathan Hui
domain - IP-in-IP tunneling is used when a header/option must be inserted into an existing packet - Expanded text on requirements and checks on RH4 processing needed to avoid amplification attacks Comments/feedback appreciated as always. -- Jonathan Hui Begin forwarded message: From: IETF I-D

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-09 Thread Jonathan Hui
self address Are there other details you were referring to? -- Jonathan Hui Thanks, Vishwas On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Jonathan Hui j...@archrock.com wrote: We have updated both draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header as well as draft-hui-6man-rpl-option-header based on feedback from

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-01

2010-06-09 Thread Jonathan Hui
and destination can only be elided on the first and last hops, respectively). If you don't think the mechanism in 6lowpan-hc is effective in compressing IP-in-IP datagrams, then we should discuss that on the 6lowpan ML. -- Jonathan Hui

Re: I-D Action:draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-00.txt (was Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-option-00.txt)

2010-05-31 Thread Jonathan Hui
when processing the header. Thanks. -- Jonathan Hui On May 30, 2010, at 11:18 PM, Vishwas Manral wrote: Hi Jonathan, I read your draft. As I have not read RPL I have to say the draft by itself was not self contained so was a bit hard to figure out what can be done in the RPL option. After

Re: I-D Action:draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-00.txt

2010-05-31 Thread Jonathan Hui
the inserting node a part of the record route functionality given by the first Segments Left entries in a RH4. Do you think that is sufficient? Thanks. -- Jonathan Hui Thanks, Vishwas On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:52 PM, JP Vasseur j...@cisco.com wrote: Dear all, Let me share a bit

Re: I-D Action:draft-hui-6man-rpl-routing-header-00.txt

2010-05-31 Thread Jonathan Hui
only one node doing the insertion or not? I would like to focus on the case where there is only one RH4 in the datagram at a time. -- Jonathan Hui Thanks, Vishwas Thanks, Vishwas On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:52 PM, JP Vasseur j...@cisco.com wrote: Dear all, Let me share a bit of context

Re: New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-option-00.txt

2010-05-30 Thread Jonathan Hui
not satisfy this fundamental requirement. Section 2.1 of RFC 2711 states that the option must not change en route. -- Jonathan Hui On May 30, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: If RFC 2711 already defines a Router Alert Option to use, why do we need a new option in the Hop

Re: 6lowpan DHCPv6 investigation

2010-03-25 Thread Jonathan Hui
information you'd typically obtain through such a service. -- Jonathan Hui IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6

New Version Notification for draft-hui-6man-rpl-option-00.txt

2010-03-12 Thread Jonathan Hui
Submission Number_of_pages: 6 Abstract: The RPL protocol requires data-plane datagrams to carry RPL routing information that is processed by RPL routers when forwarding those datagrams. This document describes the RPL option for use within a RPL domain. -- Jonathan Hui

Re: IPsec and 6LoWPAN (was: Re: Making IPsec *not* mandatory inNode Requirement)

2008-02-27 Thread Jonathan Hui
, but some environments with physical and environmental constraints can't afford to do so. -- Jonathan Hui Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: Hi Jim: All I can say is that at least one Wireless Sensor Network standard under development will not use IPSec. ISA100.11a (http://www.isa.org

Re: IPsec and 6LoWPAN (was: Re: Making IPsec *not* mandatory inNode Requirement)

2008-02-27 Thread Jonathan Hui
interested in working through this more in detail to do the study of whether IPsec is a viable option and would like to solicit help from those that have more expertise in this space. If anyone is interested, let me know. -- Jonathan Hui Bound, Jim wrote: It all comes down to is IPsec capable

IPsec and 6LoWPAN (was: Re: Making IPsec *not* mandatory in Node Requirement)

2008-02-26 Thread Jonathan Hui
, and the 6lowpan effort within the IETF has set out to bring IPv6 to this new class. I'd be disappointed if we couldn't come to an agreement on how we can appropriately bring this new class into the IP framework. -- Jonathan Hui IETF IPv6