Just put a check in the mail for the plans and the supplement for the "S".
Start getting your shop in order. Your plans will arrive without a phone call.
You will then need to send in the registration page and let the fun begin.
Also let us know who and where you are. KR people get around a lo
I enjoyed Bill's visit and would like to say.
Thanks for the nice comments. Everyone needs to take advantage of visits by
other KR experienced builders. The visits help keep you on track.
I think I saw a 64 VW like I drove in High School in Bill's Pictures. I'm I
getting old?
Steven Phillabaum
Since we are on the subject I weighed my Elevator and Horizontal Stabilizer.
(using bathroom scales, so take it for what could be close.)
Horizontal Stabilizer... New airfoil with trim cable..primer...7 lbs
Elevator...6.5 inches wider each side...with counter weights..primer..trim
tab..9.5 lb
At the top of page 78 in the May issue of SportAviation is a picture of my
fathers plane a Mustang II. Although the plane is heavier than the KR its gear
configuration is about the same. I have no tail wheel time but was able to
shoot a couple landings. I placed down the first time in a three
--I was just wondering. If Brian would tell us if the weight ratio measurement
for mixture of T-88 is actually correct if compared to a measurement in volume
measured 50% to 50%? I used a volume mixture for the entire project but have
always wanted to do the comparison but don't have the scales.
For those who weigh their T-88. I would like to hear if someone has weighed
the mixture correctly then compared to see if it is actually 50% to 50% by
volume? I built my entire project with the volume method and the results wont
change anything I just would like to know. I don't have scales.
I just measured mine. Top is 43 inches wide. When I bent the side I let the
stresses pre form the bottom. With a little tweaking the bottom is 37 1/2". I
kept the firewall stock and feel the look still has a stream line look not the
pregnant guppy look.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Thanks Dan,
Does anybody think I will be able to sort of square off the KR canopy I have by
pushing down on the top at the bulkhead by 1.25 inches and not break the thing?
Yep I am short. but my passengers might not be. My seats are adjustable in
height but will take a few minutes to do.
I tried to send this this morn but having problems.
Termites need moisture to survive. Keep your project dry and off the ground you
should not get termites. Termites do swarm when the colony gets overcrowded.
Termites can not survive in the light so they build tunnels to the food source
in whic
Ok YAL... I live is the moist area of Alabama and have way too much experience
with termites. A couple of things need to be said.
Termites swarm when the nest gets overcrowded and food source is not enough to
support them.
Termites must and the important part of this post is must have water to
I am trying to configure my canopy bulkhead shape. I made a cardboard template
that is 17.5 inches high from the shelf behind the seats. Trying to keep it to
where Mark L will fit. When I laid the uncut Todd's canopy (a KR canopy) on
top I cut the bulkhead more to a square shape like for a dr
I have searched the archive but did not find what I was looking for so here it
goes.
What is the best way (Or the way you did it) to hold the 1/4" plywood firewall
in place firmly against the fuselage while to glue sets up?
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama
Steve
Although I am only ready to build the forward deck I to have wondered how long
it takes. I have kept a log in and out time record of construction. In about
a year I will compile the time into a graph showing areas of long duration.
I do know that the controls just in the fuselage has gi
Be Careful, Look at you sectional. My Atlanta sectional shows a magenta circle
30 NM around Atlanta's class B indicating the Mode C requirement. From ground
up. Without a mode C transponder I wouldn't enter.
As far as fly over well. Better be above 10,000. and read FAR 91.215 Just to
be sure.
Just to inform those considering ordering your turnbuckles. I ordered my
turnbuckles on June 15 from Aircraft spruce in Georgia. They will not be able
to send them until October. (cable ends are backordered with a 200 person
waiting list.) I had to change the order to the Corona store to get
I am needing some advice. I am using Matco masters without the built in
reservoir. I need to know what fitting may fit to connect flex line to it and
then to the metal line I have run to the wheels.
in other words:
1. What type of fitting at the master?
2. What type of plastic (Flexible) lin
--I also thought that. But, after on the phone with 3 people at ACS. I learned
that when I now order I ask about availability, and if not available then What
about the other store? Apparently they don't just automatically decide which
store it comes from.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair
Just send a check, Money Order, Whetever to Rand Robinson and wait for the
plans.
Just Do It.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama
Jaco Swanepoel wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> There is a guy in Pretoria that is very interrested in buying a complete
> set of drawings and const
David Swanson wrote:
>
>I was wondering what size turnbuckles people were using in their
> planes? I was looking through A&S.
>
It has been almost two months since I ordered my turnbuckles from Aircraft
spruce. (sorry don't remember the size right now). But, if you order you
better
YES,. now can we please keep this quiet so the law makers in my town wont catch
on. Maybe everyone needs to write the Jacksonville mayor. If they come up
with this law in my town I will have to build a private room under my house
just like the hidden "SPEAK EASY'S" during prohibition.
Steven
What Bill didn't say was. When he left out of Auburn he started his roll out
after a 172 departed. The 172 was at about 500 feet above the field when Bill
left the ground. Bill made two Aw some High speed GO A ROUNDS before the 172
was mid field down wind. GOT to get my plane finished. Yal ge
Hello John, and net.
I don't know if anyone came out with a straight answer but this is what I did.
and. Should have done. I left my fuselage on the table upside down with a
temporary brace just past where the doublers would stop. I also installed a
temp brace where the widest point would be.
I was thinking that the offset in the vertical stabilizer might account for
that climb and descend in a left or right turn. Vertical stab acting like an
elevator. I guess I will search the archives for the data since I am about to
set my vertical stab. I am waiting for the very last chance to
Thanks for the input. 8" From bottom of spar to ground sounds like a medium
number.
Once I set it I will be able to adjust my tail wheel. What degrees would be
good for the stance at tail wheel down?
Some one once told me that there is info on that but I didn't see it in the
books I have.
--Sorry
Yes that would be 8" for prop clearance.
Must have been suffering shop heat syndrome when I wrote it.
thanks again for the info. As I see it I should be able to attach a 54" 1" x
1" board centered along the longeron at the firewall to do my calculations. I
can't wait to start putting in
OK that is not what I wanted to hear this close to finalizing my hardware
installs. Maybe the $150.00 dollars in ss bolts can be used somewhere else.
Aircraft spruce has got to love me. At least I haven't put epoxy in the bolt
holes yet as a sealer.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Aub
Hello all.
Searching the archives did not result in an answer so here it is.
I built my fiberglass gear legs which included the caster and camber thus no
metal brackets for the axles. This allowed me to mount my axle lower and
streamline the leg with the wheel. I made mine longer so I could s
Please send me a picture I may have a purchaser for it.
Brian I don't think your wife will let you this time. So I don't have to worry
about you getting it.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama
Hartman Malcolm L CMSgt 926 MXG/MXS
wrote:
> Completed KR-2S fuselage.
David and others.
I wrote that list as a take off of the plans built KR. Some items are not
needed if you make changes. Since then I have completed my boat using Mark L's
method of build it more than once. The list is a good start. I also have a
list for steel and one for bolts and misc item
I had used 2 x 4 s for the cross members of the table. Mark Langford stated in
199? on his web site to use 2 x6 s for the table and put a good edge on one
side for a flush fit with the table top. I ended up chasing dips in my table
the entire time I used it. Although I put mine together wit
The table for construction of the side needs to be flat. The importance of
level comes in when you are putting in the cross members for the bottom. But
for sure try to get the 1/64" variance.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama
Mark Jones wrote:
> You have got to g
When I was in Mark L. plane I didn't even notice that it might have been loud.
When we got out Mark stated that I didn't have the ANR turned on. On another
note of noise. My dads Mustang II is just like all the others. The real noise
starts when the tail wheel comes down and you get that dragg
Chris, clamps for holding gussets really are not needed. Most will stay in
place on their own. The ones that want to slide to the floor you can hold in
place with a piece of coat hanger wire bent into a "C". As for attaching your
gussets to the cross members first. As Ron stated it would work
I will be leaving Auburn Alabama at 5:30 a.m. Thursday, and staying till Sunday
morning. Some have asked for a ride. But I can fit some more. I will be tent
camping at the Corn Roast area. Hopefully on the fence of the runways. If you
want a ride get out a map and see if you are on my path.
If you are building a KR2S you might want to change four of the 12' lengths to
14'.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama
troy Mcgrew wrote:
> I am eager to start building the sides of the fuselage and called wicks to
> see what spruce I would need out of the spruce kit
Hello neters,
I got my first ride in a KR today. Mark Langford came down so I could get some
measurements. We were able to go up even though the winds were something like
14 gusting to 23. (Not down the center of the runway). I must say the plane
handles great I could not believe the ball st
While I was studying the possibility to build a KR and then after I decided to
build and before I started I reviewed almost every possible builders site and
KR gathering or sun-n-fun. I could get. In doing this I found things about
different planes that I liked. I would print out just that sect
Sorry to all the KRneters. I need to get this out to Carroll only.
Carroll, I did receive the drill jig. and will return it within a few weeks.
I don't have your e-mail address. Could you please reply to me so I can save
it.
Again thanks.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Al
--
Larry Wrote:
" Here is a boat fuel flow guage that someone pointed out on another talk group
that some of you may want to try."
Larry, Sweeet.
Do you know of any positive input from other aviators that have used it?. Let
us know what they think. I am getting close to laying out my pan
Does anyone have a wing attachment fitting drill guide fixture that they would
be willing to loan out? I would gladly pay shipping both ways. I have
exhausted my search here for someone to make one. HELP.
If you want to talk my cel is 334-319-2845 or e-mail me off the list.
--
Steven Phillabaum
Thanks for all the advise and help. Thanks to the KRnet I have one on its way
for my use for which I will return to its owner. Wish I would have asked
sooner.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama
skp...@charter.net wrote:
> Does anyone have a wing attachment fitt
Good morning everyone. I am setting my Diehl type landing gear brackets today
and was wondering if people are floxing them to the spar? If so? mine are
powder coated and should I remove or scratch the surface? I did a search in
the archives and found 206 listings but gave up reading with no l
Thanks for info. So floxing in would give the even pressure spread along the
entire bracket at the sparcaps. Also, giving it that fixodent hold so as to
reduce movement. Great. now back into the garage. I am going to use T88 and
forge on.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama
If I understand the part you are referencing is the triangular ply gussets
which goes on the inside of the fuselage and in front of and behind the main
spar. If this is the case then you need to build the fuselage complete with
spruce gussets,ply skin and then you install the spars. After the
--Scarfing is not a big problem and only takes a mater of minutes to
accomplish. I have built my entire airframe scarfing the ply by hand. I did
not use the disc on a drill method in the assembly manual. I used 1 x 2 pine
cut about 18" long and using spray mount adhesive I affixed 80 then 100
I'm sorry but I have to chime in
Order my plans in April of 2003 and got them May 7, 2003. Called Jeannette and
left a message asking about a supplement for the landing gear. Jeannette
called me back said she would send it out as soon as she could. And I got it
within a few days. FREE. As th
I ordered my spruce from Wick's and they have called me twice to tell me how
the milling is going and then they sent me an email with ups tracking info.
Talk about customer service. Now. for my ply. Wick's crating and Freight
charges will be over $120.00. So. I will be driving to A,S, to pick
I can't wait.
I just watched (again) the tape from the 1998 Red Oak gathering. (Art I'll
return it soon, really.) I hope I can make it.
Going to be a grandpa any day now...I'll try not to bring any pictures. Well
only of the plane construction.
P.S. If you have a tape of any past gatherings,
You can stall a plane in a dive. I also am interested in hearing some more on
stall warnings that are Low Cost
Mr. Cheap
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
2 mile final for 36
>
> From: "Dan Heath"
> Date: 2004/07/04 Sun AM 02:18:21 GMT
> To: "kr...@mylist.net"
> Subject: Re: KR> Stall warnings
Can someone tell me what is the correct skin to use for the spars. I need to
place my order this week.
The plans call for 3/32 mahog. with birch or popular core. I noticed Mark used
birch plywood. According to Wicks prices it would be cheaper and I am about
cheaper.
Finally (I think this was co
Thanks Brian,
I think I will be ordering 2 4x8 sheets of Birch.(for spars only). If anyone
needs to stop me let me know.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn Alabama>
> Use M90.
>
> I used Mahogany but it did cost a lot. My last two KRs had a lighter
> colored wood that I assumed was birch but I was no
Thanks for the help.
Going with 3/32 birch, and running vertical.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
Rusty engine teardown
Brian, I did the exact calculations and the only response to my post of "error
in the plans" was. "oh really?"
Hope you find the answer. Im waiting.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn Alamaba
>
> From: "Brian Kraut"
> Date: 2004/06/18 Fri AM 01:59:00 GMT
> To: "KRnet"
> Subject: KR> forward spar dimensi
Wow did I speak before I looked. When looking back I found that only half my
question went out about the error in the plans. Sorry netters. I am following
Brian on this since I have the same question.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn Alabama not Alabamba
>
> From:
> Date: 2004/06/18 Fri AM 03:26:13
Thanks Edward.
Stupid question... Is the height of the root end of the outside spar the same
as the height of the center spar? From what I can tell it is.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
>
> From: Edward Seaman
> Date: 2004/05/21 Fri PM 03:12:27 GMT
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> spar cap widt
YES, Thank you.
The net can answer questions.
Steven
>
> From: boeing757me...@aol.com
> Date: 2004/05/24 Mon PM 03:43:56 GMT
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> spar cap width
>
> In a message dated 5/24/2004 5:15:43 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> edpsea...@yahoo.co.uk writes:
> > Stup
Help I am missing something.
I can't find the width (plan view) for the the spar cap of the outboard forward
spar. I have found dimension errors (I think). I am using the New wings as
down loaded from Marks site. I don't need any other dimensions If you know
the answer please let me know
I wrote,
> > I can't find the width (plan view) for the the spar cap of the outboard
> forward spar.
Mark wrote
> Those spars in plan view are the same as the KR2S plans call for, so look in
> your RR plans for those numbers.
Thanks, I of course found 1 15/16" x 1 7/8" x 78" for the outside forw
Kevin wrote.
> Next step: Sandblaster! (and a lift to get the motors out of my enclosed
> trailer!).
My son and I lifted ours out of the truck by hand and set it on an engine stand.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
Brian, Have you forgot... At SNF I asked to purchase your tail wheel from
your old plane. Sent you an Email off the list last week. You must not have
received it. If this is the one (complete assym) for $20.00 Please tag it and
bag it. I will send you a check.
Let me know
Steven Phillabaum
At SNF I met a fellow named Art. I lost his info. Does anyone know how to get
in touch with him.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn Alabama
scrounging parts
(334) 887-5641
Ray, and others. I plan on getting there Thursday about 1:00. Never camped
there. Hope I can get a site. Maybe I'll make a flag with a KR logo on it so
others can find. Not going in the gates until Friday and Saturday.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
Table Stage
>
> From: Ray Fuenzalida
> D
On the aluminum list posted I stated T-5 for hinge and horns. Wicks and ACS
does not carry them. My father gave me a name of a supplier.( can't locate
name at this time) I called and spoke to him. He does not have T5. OK what to
do? MARK, what did you use if you did not find T5. I will need
I knew you would be the first prankster of the day.
I really am looking for your first report.
You are among the ones I have been following since I started this journey 3
years ago. Keep up the good work.
P.S. when do you find time to work on your project?
Oh yea eight years in the making.
Steven
Need Help Finding...
Over a year ago I saw either on the net or on a web site someone whom laid-up
their own gear legs in a mold. I looked at the archive with no luck. I looked
at sites with no luck. I want to make my own legs for Diehl brackets. I would
like some input as to length, thickness
My schedule is getting booked. Where is the dinner? When is the dinner? and, I
am camping at sun-n-fun. Where can I meet some of you KR people?
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
Sorry to be so stupid. BUT...
I looked at sun-n-fun event list and scanned the site. I can't find a schedule
for KR's
Verg, wrote, "Meet at the KR forum tent"
Please tell me when.
Thank you,
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
Tag! Your it Mark. When get the data please let us know.
See you at Sun-n-fun
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
Mark wrote
"the
> > longeron is more representative of how the plane itself will be flying,
> > rather than the firewall.
> >
until somebody
> > figures out what angle the fuselage is
I noticed that the wing templates I downloaded for the AS5048/5 has a tip
template for the 140.75" location which is labeled AS5048/6. Did I get the
wrong drawings? I plan on using the AS5048/5 wing.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, AL.
Good morning.
I looked in the KR Archive and did not find my answer.
Is the Spar caps the same width on the new wing (AS5048/5) as the wing with the
plans? Should I change my spruce order other than the basic order for the KR2S?
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, AL.
Before I order my spruce I want to know if anyone has a name of a contact at
Aircraft Spruce. He, She would be familar with the KR. I plan on driving to
pick up my order and talk face to face. (I live less than two hours away.)
I believe it is up to KR owners to keep the KR alive. If more KR Planes would
show up at major fly-ins the popularity would grow. I went to my first EAA
meeting and several people were familar with the KR but have never seen one
that they know of. I know its a long way off but I cant wait to
Sorry, I forgot to tag my E-mails. Coffee has not kicked in yet.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
334-887-5641
Thanks for the replies of the spruce order question. I saw a lot of complaints
so that is why I asked for a person to person contact. Does not seem to be one.
As far as time to ship. That is why I want to drive to pick up. I personally
purchased a "PILOT" headset as a back up from Aircraft Sp
Bruce, I am interested in both. But do you mean 32 wing fittings brackets? Two
Aluminum Gear brackets for spars and two aluminum axel mounts? Do you have the
Legs.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
334-887-5641
I'll let them go for $250 each. BTW, the gear fittings can be used on the new
air
Hope I didn't send this twice.
I think any and all oportunities to get the KR out to the public is great. Why
not meet using regional fly-ins. A couple examples are the Pancake breakfast
held by a large EAA chapter near Atlanta, GA. And a Fly-in "thunder in the
Valley", held in Columbus GA. KR
> Is there a list or info page some where noting the hardware requirements
> (castellated nuts, pins, etc) on things such as push tubes, bell cranks,
> cables, etc
>
> Steve McGee
> Endeavor Wi. USA
> Building a KR2S widened.
> lmc...@maqs.net
>
Steve,
I have a list of just such in an exc
Larry you might have the answer by now but. Go to KR archive and type
"aluminum list posted" and you will see the list I made for the KR. Lists
Wicks' part numbers and page numbers. I have not built my Aluminum parts yet so
you might look at it with a grain of salt.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn,
me know.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
skp...@charter.net
I have an excell list for all parts as listed on the plans
and in the specs. The list includes part number and page
number for ordering from wicks. Of course the list is as
always 90% complete. I'll post it to the net if anyone
thinks it will help
Steve Phillabaum
Auburn Alabama
Still Plann
Mark I sent you my spreadsheet for you to HTLM to the net.
Wondering if you got it. Note if it makes it to the net
remember. Firewall forward is left off. and the old hinge
style is used not Dr. Deans. Of course you will still
need to make horns if you use Dr. Deans method.
P.S. I have a st
Mark please E-mail me off the list so I can reply to you
Trying to send you the aluminum spreadsheet.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn Alabama
skp...@charter.net
Ron, Try to find someone building a Mustang II, I helped
my father build his wings OFF THE PLANE. Although they
are aluminum. I don't see why it can't be done for the KR.
Just put in a lot of thought.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, AL (KAUO)
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:44 -0500
"Ron Freiberger"
In a training tri-gear plane. Doing soft field take offs.
After run-up one pulls back fully on the yoke and begins
his roll onto the runway. Does not stop. When centered on
the runway adds the rest of the power lifts the front
wheel and keeps the plane centered. If you still fly a
tri gear a
I have a question on building molds.
My experience with mold makeing for fiberglass is that the
mold (if made of fiberglass) needs to be at least twice as
thick as the piece you are going to make. So, the heat
from the part wont warp the mold.
1. What type of material is being used to pull mold
>Bill Wrote
> Now, I do have a 18 X 25 downdraft paint booth with
>10 foot ceilings that I use for my car restorations. I
>told Art Bruce that since he is a local guy once he gets
>to the finishing stage I can make my shop available for
>him - or others if interested - to come finish win
experience please advise.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama (KAUO)
skp...@charter.net
r. (plans built, cost,
weight, you know the stuff.) Mark I couldn't get on to
your site to look at what you did.
Steve Phillabaum
skp...@charter.net
Auburn, Alabama
Thanks for the input.
Looks like I'll study on "Dr. Deans Way"
Actually looks easier then cutting angle.
Steve Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
"Dana Overall" wrote:
> Rivets can be set
>using a backing plate, to accomodate the factory head,
>and a hammer. You don't need a squeezer or C-frame.
>
Dana Thanks for the pics. I belive you have helped me
make up the decision. To go with Rod ends for hinges and
a push rod in lue of cabl
Steve Makish wrote.
>Hi Guys, Steve Makish here. I have
>had my bird to 14,500 feet I put
>the engine to idle, set
>the speed at 95 mph and glided back to fort Lauderdale
>exec which was 70
>miles away. >Steve
Steve, This is Steve,
WOW I'm impressed!! With the engine at idle you
someone on the route is undecisive as I am and waits
till the last minute let me know. I could pick you up.
Steven Phillabaum
skp...@charter.net
Auburn, Alabama
e
>pleasent. Thanks -
>Bill
>
Bill did you get my post?
Steven Phillabaum
skp...@charter.net
Auburn, Alabama
I don't know if I am going due to my schedule.
But if I do go I would like someone to accompany me.
Looks like a long drive. I bought a new Atlas today but
haven't calculated the drive yet.
Mark,
Did you get my Aluminum Estimate spreadsheet I sent you
off the KRnet. I think I might have sent out into nowhere
land.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn Alabama
skp...@charter.net
in Auburn AL.
Steven Phillabaum
skp...@charter.net
easy.
Still building hardware and putting up.
Staying current in Auburn Al.
Steven Phillabaum
skp...@charter.net
Sent once I'll try again.
The decision to build a KR was long in the making.
Followed Mark Langfords work since he put in on the net.
The KR is proven, strong, fast, and affordable. The KR
does lend itself for mods but lets be smart. I am
building to plans execpt a corvair with the new wings
cockpit vs. all new inst. Although, I do like his micro
enginge inst.
Steven Phillabaum
Auburn, Alabama
skp...@charter.net
I would like to be included, if someone has one please
send to:
Steven Phillabaum
skp...@charter.net
Auburn, Alabama
Brian Kraut wrote:
>Does anyone have a KR condition inspection checklist they
>can email me? I will write my own, but I would like to
>get as many from other pe
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