It is on Monday, Sept 27th, not Sunday. I am intentionally not trimming since
the rest of the info is correct. Layla Klinger, one of the participants sent
it to me. She is a member of the Brooklyn Lace Guild and a gifted lace artist
who makes large illuminated structures and was asked to make one i
The Metropolitan Museum of Art scanned most of its pattern books and put
them on line. Try a google search of âle pompe Metropolitan Museum of
Artâ
Not sure of whether it is true of Le Pompe, but often these books are not
uniform in content like books today because they were published as a seri
The International Organization of Lace's convention, conducted online and
called UnCon 2.0, will open registration on May 15th. Members and
non-members can fill out the registration form for a myriad of activities.
For members there will be more than for non-members. A digital membership
costs only
Robin asks: Whose morning? Whatever is designated "ground zero", there
will be 23 other time zones. If it's, say, 8 AM in Greenwich, it's 1AM
here in California, around dinner time in India, and roughly bedtime in
Australia. Worse, if it's morning in Australia, it's tomorrow (or is it
yesterd
Yes, we are doing it again! An online convention for the International
Organization of Lace.
Last year we pulled together an online event on relatively short notice
when we canceled the yearly convention. This year we have had more time to
work on it and our ambition has been unbridled if not hallu
My stock answer to the question of how to learn lace is now "take an online
beginner class from the Lace Museum." Karen Thompson teaches these. It is a
small class, maybe only 5 people. There is a helper and a tech person on
the zoom at the same time to help even the most timid with any technical
q
How about Arachne?
Devon
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Dear All,
As we approach St. Catherine's Day again, this time with solo dining on
Cattern Cakes, I thought I would mention what I have been up to and to
solicit your suggestions.
After the three successful talks given during the International
Organization of Lace's virtual convention, we decided to
What exactly is the submission process?
Devon
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Am I misreading the announcement on The Textile Society of America website?
It would seem that the architecture of the Encyclopedia has already been
established and will consist of 10 volumes. Rather than discussing whether
bobbin lace should be added into the already chock full volume about woven
While I share the sadness of not having the annual fall pilgrimage to
Ithaca , I would like to point out that there are new exciting things to
look forward to. The IOLI will be hosting a series of Zoom lectures which
we are calling Lace Lectures.
The first will be on Oct. 18th at 3:30 pm New York T
Dear Clare,
My answer to you is now my answer to everyone looking for bobbin lace
instruction. The Lace Museum in Sunnyvale, CA holds virtual beginner
classes. You take them in your home!
https://thelacemuseum.org/workshops.html Beginning classes will be given
in Dec., Jan and February.
The IOLI
I have had a virtual workshop in bobbin lace, one on computer things
(Ground Forge) and am now taking one in needle lace. Of course all
workshops are a little different. Although I had received my modestly
priced gooseneck smartphone holder from Amazon and had mounted it on the
table next to my wor
I would like to draw people's attention to the opportunities being
presented by virtual symposiums. I just signed up for The Inspired Needle:
Winterthur Needlework Conference. One of the speakers will be Tricia Wilson
Nguyen who will talk about Whitework Samplers of the 17th century which
feature c
I have taken one virtual class and I have just signed up for several more
including the Halas lace class to be given by The Lace Museum. (Still
places available for people who want to learn this beautiful lace.). I am
thinking about writing something about them. For those people who have
taken a vi
When you go to the link you have to scroll down a lot until you get to the
photos I just posted. Lorelei put a lot of information and other links at
the top of this page, which is very helpful, but, it does mean you need to
scroll down for a bit. I realize that this can be confusing, but the link
d
I have encountered a strange needle lace. The cloth areas seem to be made
with corded twisted buttonhole stitches, which is unusual. Also the edges
of the motifs are not raised. I have been looking for other examples of
this and have found two. Does anyone have any idea where and when it was
made a
Brian asked privately about Math and Art, but I thought others might be
interested. Veronika gave us the address for the website of this year's
conference on that topic. She has been a contributor in previous years.
http://2020.bridgesmathart.org/
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>> suspended over the pillow you would be amazed. I just took a class with
>> Veronika Irvine over Zoom. I think it is 95% as good as in person. But the
>> savings in terms of no airplane flights or hotels more than co
Putting in my bid for Zoom. With a second camera in the form of an iPhone
suspended over the pillow you would be amazed. I just took a class with
Veronika Irvine over Zoom. I think it is 95% as good as in person. But the
savings in terms of no airplane flights or hotels more than compensate for
> Putting in my bid for Zoom. With a second camera in the form of an
> iPhone suspended over the pillow you would be amazed. I just took a class
> with Veronika Irvine over Zoom. I think it is 95% as good as in person. But
> the savings in terms of no airplane flights or hotels more than compens
Aug. 15. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I took a class with Veronika Irvine today and
my brain is depleted.
Devon
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> Sept. 15. I would like to see this. So which is it?
> Thank
During the IOLI's virtual lace convention UnCon we put on three lace talks
using Zoom webinar technology. These were very popular with our members and
we have decided we should do more of them.
The first talk in this series will be one that we were hoping to include in
the UnCon but we didn't have
It is available now on the Ioli Members only section of the ioli website.
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Many thanks to Katrina for this information. I have long been interested in
this historical detail. In fact, Elena Kanagy-Loux followed up on it, and
discovered that the artifacts were being stored in the World Trade Center
on 9/11 and so are no longer in existence.
Interesting that the researcher
Reticella was worked on a framework of threads from a woven fabric. After a
while, workers began to make diagonal support threads across the woven
framework and to work on either side of those support threads. Afterward
support threads were laid without the woven framework. Buttonhole stitches
were
Many thanks to Jean and Laurie for your responses. I have looked up the
appropriate page in the Depalle book and it is very explanatory. When I saw
it I remembered that Laurie had taught us the process in her class, but
also that I did not master the process. I flunked that part of the class
and ap
I am struck by the value put on bobbins that commemorate grisly occasions,
ie. Napleonic POW conditions, hangings, etc. These are highly sought after
by collectors while many a "Dear Sarah" bobbin goes unsold. Are bobbin
makers ready to take on the challenge of making Coronavirus bobbins for
future
Would one consider a piece of French needle lace with a Brides
tortillee mesh to be Alencon or Argentan? Also, I don't really understand
how it was made. With Alencon, you do needle lace stitches across a row,
then you whip back. But in the case of the Brides tortillee all the sides
are whipped. Is
I have posted another piece on
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history which shares some of
the same looping characteristics, but is different. What are your thoughts?
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http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history ?
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I have encountered a piece, photos at
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history It was listed in
the catalogue of sale as Milanese and implies an Italian origin. I think I
would consider it Mezzo Punto since it is largely needle lace worked with
premade tape. The tape is very interest
What would we call the lace in the photographs I posted at
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history? It is Dutch, 17th
century bobbin lace. Is there another phrase that would further describe it
or describe how it is made? Is it Freehand lace? If you were looking for
this lace what wor
Many thanks to Chris Vail for the description of making the many pair
plait. I tried it and I think she is right. I just posted a photo of my
attempt on http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history
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I have been looking at some mezzo punto. Mezzo punto is made using a
premade tape, laying it in a shape, then filling and embellishing it with
needle lace stitches. Based on previous Arachne conversations I had been
go
What an interesting conversation about the strange lace piece I have
encountered. Jo Ann believes it is needle lace. I think that is
understandable as you could achieve this effect or something like it with
needle weaving, as in Halas lace. But, the fact that the tape can
transition seamlessly into
I have encountered another unusual piece. In this piece a tape that you
would think would be more easily rendered in cloth stitch is made in the
way of a very long talley. Has anybody seen anything like this? Do you have
any information about where it might have been made? I have posted photos
on h
Thanks to Jo Ann and all those who have responded to my questions about
these puzzling pieces.
I have extricated my book on Beveren and see that Jo Ann is correct about
the holes. They do resemble the holes in the linen stitch in the second of
the two "Tonder" pieces I posted. Also, before me is Ul
Does anyone have birth and death dates for Sara Hadley? A friend needs this
for an article that is being submitted today.
Devon
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Thank you so much for this information, Bobbi. I have ordered the book from
Holly.
I received the first version of the letter just fine on gmail, as well as
the second. However, I did notice that my own posting which I posted from
the gmail site (the only way that works for me) was received on my a
Thank you to Susan and Adele for their input.
I had a look at what is available on line from the Lacemakerâs Pattern
book. They are point ground designs as is the piece of Tonder lace. I think
the thing that distinguishes the Tonder lace that I posted is its spindly
design, especially stems hang
I have encountered a piece of Tonder lace dating from about 1800. I donât
doubt that it is Tonder of this date because it was identified by an
expert. However, I have never seen a piece that looked like this. The
design is odd. I guess it is based on a flower basket design. Most Tonder
lace is ve
I am posting some close-up photos of the lappet (?) on
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history. From looking at the
previous photo Maria thought it might be application on machine tulle, but
I think that is not the case. However, the point de Paris ground has an
interesting appearance
In the catalogue of the Gruutshusemuseum, Catalogus Van de
Kantverzameling, I have encountered some photos of samples in Paris lace
which call themselves Staal voor een Mutsenslip in Parijse Kloskant. They
look a lot like a piece that I have been studying. What surprises me is
that the piece I am
According to the book Van speldengrond tot Turnhoutse Kant (about Turnhout
lace) "In Couvin, Beaumont, Cerfontaine and Marche lengths of lace were
made in black or white silk and in cotton. The point de Paris ground is
mostly combined with point ground. The aspect and the technique is
different fro
Thank you Laurie. I have seen people in Burano making needle lace and I
think it is as you describe. At the time I thought it was odd, but I wasn't
really processing what I was seeing.
I guess I have done my part to expand the confusion by translating Vieux
Flandre to Old Flanders. Yes, it is a cat
Thank you, Carolyn for this analysis. It does make a lot of sense. I
think that the Alencon workers were really trying for a hexagonal
look, which as you say takes more skill. But, in Burano, they are extremely
proud of their mesh and think it is very special and unique, so I thought
maybe there
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What is it about the mesh of Burano that makes it look more brick like?
That is always the descriptor. Also, frequently there is discussion about
the fuzziness of the thread. Objectively, it looks to me as though the
movements of the thread are the same as Alencon. Work a row of twisted
buttonhole
I am sure that Arachnids will be relieved to hear that I have just gotten
off the phone with Jeri Ames. She has had some health issues since last
August and was in the hospital early in March for some non-urgent
follow-up. She has been feeling tired, so she has not been checking email
since then. H
I have encountered this piece, a bertha. It looks to me as though the
motifs are typical of Rosaline. However, they are set in a needle made
mesh. Does anyone know anything about this, for instance where it was made?
Is it appropriate to call it Rosaline? I have posted photos on
laceioli.ning, here
I have encountered four pieces called Redano lace from Spain. They were
originally from a collection of a man with some expertise in Spanish lace.
I am trying to get a handle on what Redano is. It seems it is considered
the same as caul lace, and caul lace is netting. Rather than being the name
of
I have encountered a lappet that is thought to be Flemish or French, but it
looks English to me, especially as it has a filling, Braids and Leadworks,
that resembles number 169 in Honiton Lace: a collection of rediscovered
fillings. Both examples even have a coarse thread in them. I am wondering
if
Many thanks to Jo for that fantastic picture of a lacemaker seated behind a
huge bolster as in the picture from the Codex. Many thanks also to Deborah
for the suggestion that it is a banana leaf pillow from Brazil, based on
Portuguese lace pillows. I have been looking for other examples on the
inte
Yes, it is a very large pillow. Many of the other images in the Codex show
examples of industry. I don't know if there are some of these that are out
of scale in an effort to focus on the process, since I don't really know
what the industry is. Also, perhaps someone is trying to draw something
that
About 20 years ago I received a question about whether lace was being made
in Colonial Spanish America. I did not know the answer. I asked a curator
at he Hispanic Society. He didnât know, but he said it was very likely
because the Spanish tended to set up these industries in their colonies. I
as
Dear Adele,
That is a very interesting idea. Looking closely at the Old Lacemaker and
the "attributed to Gabriel Metsu" paintings, it appears that they have
something like you describe on them too.
Devon
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Interestingly, it seems Maes used exactly the same pillow in his painting
of the Old Lacemaker in the Mauritshaus Museum.
https://www.mauritshuis.nl/en/explore/the-collection/artworks/the-old-lacemak
er-1101/#
Perhaps it was a family possession? The pillow is the same even to the
hanging scissors
Debbie Stoller,
I would say that the pillows are not exactly the same because the one you
show has a "lectern-like" base, a term I have now read in the English
translation of the bobbin and pillow book which I would not have remembered
that I have had Diane not mentioned it. The pillow in the Maes
Dear Elena,
There is a book, Kloppel, Kissen, Stander about pillows, bobbins and
stands. Unfortunately it is in German. It does not have a pillow exactly
like this one, although there are similar ones. The book, as far as I can
tell physically describes the photos of the pillows and I don't think t
Dear Bev (and others),
Thank you. I followed your link. It took me to the site. To get all the
convention posts you should click on âpageâ at the top of this screen.
For
those without Facebook, please confirm that this works.
Devon
Bev wrote:
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I donât think that you can see the photos if you are not on Facebook. The
name of the Facebook page is International Organization of Lace, Inc. not
IOLI. This is a source of confusion.
I understand that there are people who donât want to be on Facebook. But
one can establish an identity on Face
For those who follow the International Organization of Lace, Inc. Facebook
page, a very complete series of photos has been posted by myself as
Facebook editor. The photo of the bobbin lace speed competition in which
contestants were given the challenge of making the snake book mark on a
watermelon
I found an example of lassen in Valenciennes (square ground). It was
executed in an irregular zig-zag, which makes sense because you don't need
as much of an over lap as you would if you did it in a straight diagonal.
Where the solid areas are joined it is messy looking. But I wasn't able to
upload
Jeri's AOL account does not interface with Gmail. She just received an
announcement of an in-depth Exploration of Decorative Arts study program
which was colored graphics and photos (which Arachne cannot accommodate),
as follows:
September 30-October 11, 2019
"Collectors, appraisers, arts and
http://laceioli.ning.com/groups/group/show?groupUrl=identification-history&xg_source=activity&id=6475898%3AGroup%3A208&page=1#comments
You will have to scroll through two pages of comments to get to the photos.
Devon
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Now that I am looking at the piece that is described as coming from
Honiton, I am wondering if the technique is actually Bedfordshire. What do
you think?
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There is a piece in the Met collection that is identified as coming from
Honiton. I am trying to put technique information into the catalog. But I
don't know how to characterize this piece. I just put photos on the
laceioli.ning identification site. The number is 48.187.645. The background
is unusu
I put up on laceioli.ning the phtos of 63.196.17. Also, I did find some
lassen. One is dated about 1800, which I am somewhat doubtful about. The
other is joined lappets dated early 19th century. But, I would expect that
if they were joined it was somewhat later than the date of the lappets,
since l
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Funny you should ask. I was looking at one of the binche handkerchiefs from
Princess Alice of Monaco, 63.196.6. The joins are in the corners and they
do not use lassen, although they are very skillfully done. I have posted
photos of the four corners on
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identificati
Add this to the list of things I should be looking for when I look at lace
in the museum! This is something I never thought of before. I had a quick
look through my photos and I couldn't find an example of lassen, although I
have been taught how to do the technique in several classes. It would be
i
At Jeri's request, I am forwarding this posting. Please address any
personal responses to her. Her address is above as a cc.
Devon
Dear Arachne members,
Notice of this great loss to our lace community appeared in my inboxes (AOL
and Gmail) this morning under the heading "So sorry".
I searched
Many thanks to those who commented on the black blonde lace dress I posted
a couple of weeks ago. It was very helpful.
I now have another Spanish lace that I am working to identify.I feel that
the design is a very Spanish looking one. It doesn't have the large wild
flowers on it, but is instead geo
We have a piece of black blonde which appears to be made into a skirt of
the 1890s. It may have started life as a mantilla or mantillas. The piece
is cataloged as 18th century. But, I feel that black point ground lace was
more a lace of the 19th century. It has large motifs which was a popular
thin
It is unfortunate that this is happening, and more so that it involves my
name.
The museum where I volunteer has been alerting us to "phishing" schemes.
One tip-off is that the address it is coming from, or URL, is often quite
weird, involving a long chain of letters and numbers. So, if you are
dou
No!
I did not send it. For future reference I never send emails telling people
to click on a link unless there is some extremely wordy explanation about
why the link is of interest.
Devon
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:43 AM Ann Humphreys
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I am glad that Jean enjoyed my article about how to take more interesting
photos of lace events. My involvement with the Brooklyn Lace Guild has
brought into sharp relief how much better those people who have come of age
post internet are able to communicate on social media. Their skill in
posing e
I am so glad that Susan and Sue enjoyed Pierre's class and the visit to the
Ratti. It was great fun. I found Pierre's lecture about his work
fascinating. I have to say that I was interested to hear about how an
artist who supports himself with his art interacts with his gallery. I
especially enjoye
Jeri Ames is having trouble posting to the list, so I am forwarding this.
Jeri writes:
The last time I asked on Arachne was 2013. I am still looking for the late
Frie Wuytack's Kant Book One. Frie was a fabulous Antwerp lacemaker. She
guided me through that city 20+ years ago. Even back then
As long as Jane was posting about fun lace activities across the pond, I
thought I would report on the upcoming class to be given by South African
lace artist Pierre Fouche at the Hunterdon Art Museum in Clinton, NJ.
Initially the class was planned for April 6th and April 7th. However, when
it fill
There is an article in the New York Times today. It is about how museums
find themselves without enough storage space, and then they have to
consider selling some of the art. Near the end of the article they are
discussing the problems of the Brooklyn Museum.
The Brooklyn Museum had already identif
This article appeared in the New York Times magazine section this week. I
posted it on the International Organization of Lace's facebook page where
it has been very popular. Jeri Ames has encouraged me to post it on arachne
as well. Here is the link:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/magazine/remb
Jeri has sent me this information to share with arachne about an exhibit of
interest:
Notice of an exhibit in England about royal fashions, with a lace component
that might be of interest. http://bit.ly/2U2j95d
Publicity by the museum: https://www.fashionmuseum.co.uk/events/royal-women
Devon
Arguably, a bigger differentiator is what year you are talking about.
Sometimes motifs are big, sometimes motifs are small depending on the fashion.
They were all trying to create what was fashionable at that time rather than
something that looked distinctly like the lace of the town.
But, if Susan
In my zeal to promote lacemaking, I admit that I did not address the
question of whether you can pick up and put down bobbin lace with this
questioner.
I do agree that it is not the easiest thing to pick up and put down.
In fact, one of the things I like about it is the intense
concentration that y
Lyn, I guess I didn't make myself clear. It is the mother who wants to
learn. I mentioned the children because it occurred to me that it
wouldn't be that easy for her to leave the house. Also, I left out
another part of the message. The entire message said, "I have two
young boys. Two and 4 years o
Gina writes: I taught myself, starting with The Torchon Lace Workbook by
Bridget Cook. I'm attempting to teach myself Beds from books and from
Christine Springett's Beds video series. I have to say, Beds has been more
challenging than the Torchon was. I'm still taking baby steps :) I'd love
to have
Bev Walker sent the following suggestion, which I am posting in order
to continue the conversation:
"Tell her and others to join the Facebook group Bobbin Lace Makers.
There are a lot of new learners taking part, most seem to be teaching
themselves from books and YouTube videos. They are giving ea
As you may know, I am the IOLI facebook editor. I have received a
question to the page from a woman who has two young sons, 2 and 4. She
asks "What is the best way to start this hobby?"
Ordinarily I would say that she should get in touch with a local lace
group that would tell her where lessons are
Dear Jeri,
In fact, in rereading Marian Powys, I realized that she says the Diana
and Endymion piece "Was inherited by the same person as the Garniture
de Lit described above and is reputed to have been also used by
Napoleon and Marie Louise. So the piece you refer to and the piece I
am discussing
Yesterday, I realized after going through my photography, theat the
making of the drochel ground in strips in Point d'Angleterre, or
Brussels vrai drochel edgings is the norm, although I had never
noticed it before. Subsequently, I heard from a well regarded lace
authority who has a great deal of k
Another mystery. A piece presents itself as a Brussels applique, but
the droschel is actually worked around the motifs, sewing into the
edges of them during construction. However, when viewed from a
distance, there are faint lines indicating the droschel was made in
strips. I always thought that if
I have encountered a lace the likes of which I have never seen before.
The ground works like point ground, but it is done with pairs acting
as singles. Where they come together, they split into threads as
singles and work a linen stitch. Our information says that it is 19th
century, and Russian. It
I am wondering if these messages from Alice Howell asking the list,
as though a single person, to buy a gift card are evidence that she
has been hacked. I am not sure how to ask her because the email
address is actually the email address I have for her.
Devon
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Interesting question. Gertrude Whiting, she of the lace sampler had an
enterprise called Whiting India Guilds that seemed to promote
lacemaking in India. This has long fascinated me, but I don't know
much about it. Also, Miss Channer seems to have been a force for lace
in India as demonstrated in t
Today is the last day of the Lace, not Lace exhibit. However the fun
is not over.
The Hunterdon Art Museum is bringing Pierre Fouche over for a design
class in April. In fact, since the class filled so quickly, they added
a second class which will be April 9th and 10th.
Details can be found here:
h
An interesting idea. Whereas linen stitch is double weft weaving, tallies
are single weft weaving. I have seen some pieces that are made entirely out
of Talley like weaving. It is quite tight. I wonder if it would be possible
to incorporate fancier weaves if you converted to Talley type weaving for
The Hunterdon Art Museum in Clinton, NJ has made arrangements to fly
Pierre Fouche from South Africa to teach. The first class, April 6 and
7, filled very quickly, within a week. So they have decided to hold a
second class April 9 and 10. I am trying to see if we could take
Pierre and other interes
I was at the museum yesterday. They told me that the mayor of Clinton
had brought Corey Booker to the museum and showed him the Carriage of
Lost Love and that Corey was very interested and appreciative. Corey
Booking is one of our two senators from the State of New Jersey.
Also, they said that they
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