What an interesting conversation about the strange lace piece I have
encountered. Jo Ann believes it is needle lace. I think that is
understandable as you could achieve this effect or something like it with
needle weaving, as in Halas lace. But, the fact that the tape can
transition seamlessly
Devon,
Have you seen the book, "Gekloeppelte Reticella?" As the name
implies, they are using bobbin lace to imitate Reticella needle lace. The
patterns are nothing like this one, they are very
geometric and imitate Reticella. The book does, however, use tallies in
this exact manner.
Hi Devon
It reminds me of Pattern 21A, Book I of Le Pompe, 1559. The braid in the Le
Pompe example has picots and holes, but the principle of an undulating
floral design worked in a braid, surrounded by straight footside braids
appear stylistically very medieval. Your example's thread is in
In my zeal to promote lacemaking, I admit that I did not address the
question of whether you can pick up and put down bobbin lace with this
questioner.
I do agree that it is not the easiest thing to pick up and put down.
In fact, one of the things I like about it is the intense
concentration that
Other parts of Devonâs meassage have already been addresses.
This part: âIs this hobby something easy to pack away (so my kids canât
get their hands in it) and something I can pick up and leave as my free time
permits? I have some experience in crocheting but beginners level.â
As a millennial I will just chime in to say that today’s young people are not
as divided in taste as perhaps they were in the past. You might be surprised to
find that many girls like dinosaurs & trucks, and many boys like pink &
flowers. The easiest way is just to offer everyone the same range
Many years ago Elizabeth Kurella designed some dinosaur patterns, very simple,
but just the thing to entice a boy. I don't know if the patterns were ever
published or where one could find them. I would love to see them readily
available.
Lorelei
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Does the mother want to learn herself or teach her sons?
As an educator, I feel 2 years is too young to start lace, they need to
have developed a working memory that allows them to hold quite a bit of
information and they need good fine motor skills. The four year old may
be just ready.
Is
I started to learn lace when my son was 10 months old - so it is possible to
combine with a young child. However I hope she has a less absent-minded
partner than my husband. He was supposed to be looking after my son while I
cooked. Instead I heard an interesting pinging sound coming from the
Lyn, I guess I didn't make myself clear. It is the mother who wants to
learn. I mentioned the children because it occurred to me that it
wouldn't be that easy for her to leave the house. Also, I left out
another part of the message. The entire message said, "I have two
young boys. Two and 4 years
"My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members,
please ignore it. I read your emails."Dear Devon, et al,
I am assuming this mother lives in the US, so we have this situation. A
mother, experienced in bobbin lacemaking, with two young sons and she wants
them to learn bobbin lace.
I don't think it was a west coast phenomenon. Originally there was a
group called the Federation of Doll Clubs. in the 1950s, a small
sub-group of them was interested in dressing dolls in the appropriate
style lace for the era of the doll, and they formed a lace study group
within the Doll Clubs,
The link provided in my email should be:
https://cloud.collectorz.com/NELACE/books/view.
If you have problems with the link, please visit the Library page of the
New England Lace Group: www.nelg.us
On April 25, 2018 at 10:10 AM Jill Hawkins wrote:
We have a public link on our website to our
Hi Jeri
The New England Lace Group uses Book Connect from Collectorz.com. This is
an online, web-based software that is very easy to use, and can be
accessed from anywhere. The subscription costs $24.95 per year and
includes regular software updates. Collectorz.com also offers a version
called
I only catalogue my craft books so I have a very easy system that I use
- more time to make lace. :-)
It's called 'Book Catalogue' - an app, the Android version on my phone
and tablet.
Shirley T. -
I, too, use this for my books. it is a very easy to use application and
you can carry it
Hi Jeri,
I only catalogue my craft books so I have a very easy system that I use
- more time to make lace. :-)
It's called 'Book Catalogue' - an app, the Android version on my phone
and tablet. It allows one to have various 'bookshelves' and sorting by
any category - Torchon, Beds,
Pardon, I didn't realize we were specifically discussing contemporary examples.
I was interested in the overall debate. Of course, lots of lace is made in
color, I myself enjoy making bobbin and needle lace in color as well - although
I love white too! I love it all, honestly, no matter what
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Subject : Re: [lace] What do bobbin and needle lace have in common?
In a recent viewing of 17th century English embroidery, I noted that some of
the stitches used to fill in backgrounds behind raised work resembled Hollie
Po
You bring up a really thought-provoking question, Devon, what DO bobbin and
needle lace have in common??
When I talk to the uninitiated, I usually describe lace as “an umbrella term
that covers myriad techniques that vary across regions and history.” But while
bobbin lace is decidedly only
Yes, that's part of what I meant by "historically important". The other
aspect was their political economic importance in international commerce
and domestically with sumptuary laws and prohibitions on foreign lace, etc.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
On Apr 1, 2018 11:31, "DevonThein"
Nancy writes: But needle lace and bobbin lace deserve to be treated together,
in a show such as yours for example, because of the first point above, and
because they are functionally similar enough (in spite of fundamental
structural differences) that they can be combined harmoniously (Duchesse
Devon,
I propose that they are the two major forms of handmade, historically
important lace, forms with which the general public is not familiar and
doesn't know how to make, even in very general terms. Other than that, I
agree with the implication of your question -- they don't share anything
Devon,
after my knowledge what you describe is named Point de Venice à relief.
Ilske
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Devon, I understand that Point of Venice would be a an appropriate term, as
a generic term.
Yesterday I was reading from the ipad so I could not access easily to the
information. Now from my desktop here there are other links:
Gros Point of Venice 17th. cent
Carolina and Jean are suggesting that Point Plat is the correct term. Gon says
that she would call it Point de Venise a relief, âbecause there is a small
relief around the motives. In the Point de Venise Plat there is no relief at
all.â
Gon echoes a feeling that I have about it. I think of
Hello Devon,
I think you get all kind of possibilities. I would call it Point de Venise à
relief, because there is a small relief around the motives. In the Point de
Venise plat there is no relief at all. Of course the reliefs in the Point de
Venise a gros relief the reliefs around the motive
On 1 Mar 2017, at 21:46, devonth...@gmail.com wrote:
> If this is not Gros Point, what would you call it, or
> what would you be searching if you were looking for it.
Devon,
I would call it Point Plat - see at the bottom of the page on my website at
I understand that it is which in Italian is called "punto piatto de Venice",
it could be translated as Flat Point of Venice.
Museo Arnold Caprai, has some illustrating examples and could be seen the
differences between Gros Point and Flat Point.
Itâs Honition so you need a very fine thread, but Honition more than other
laces is fairly flexible in the thickness of thread used because if it starts
looking thin you add another pair, if it starts looking overcrowded you take a
pair out.
If you are thinking of it more as a Milanese piece
In the board scheme of things any textile constructed with decorative holes is
lace, but if there are specific sub-categories then I would say that hairpin
crochet should be in the crochet class - and similarly a Shetland lace shawl
would be in the knitting class etc.
If the work is good and
yarn' or thread it goes in the Knit/Lace class.
Hope this helps, if you need further info (like the classes used at the Wash.
State Fair) just let me know.
Lorri
> Subject: Re: [lace] What media constitues Lace
> From: paternos...@appleshack.com
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 08:51:56 +0100
&
Knitting -it goes in the Knitting Class, but if it is done with fine 'lace
yarn' or thread it goes in the Knit/Lace class.
Hope this helps, if you need further info (like the classes used at the Wash.
State Fair) just let me know.
Lorri
Subject: Re: [lace] What media constitues Lace
From: paternos
The images I see after typing Vectorised lace into Google look like computer
versions of hand drawn lace. Not photographic images of lace (hand or
machine) and not prickings/[atterns for making lace. In many ways they remind
me of the Johann Hrdlicka design book reproduced by the Lace Guild some
Hi
Typed Vectorised lace pattern in Internet it came up with lots of images of
Vector lace patterns and listed them as Vector seamless lace patterns. Looks a
bit like machine made Lace. Be interested to hear what anyone else thinks.
Maureen
E Yorks UK
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Vectorized doesn't refer to the lace or to the pattern. It refers to
the computer image.
Any lace pattern you scan in can be converted to a vectorized image.
A vectorized image is one that is saved in the computer as a set of
drawing instructions - lines and arcs and such - instead of a set of
Thank you, I thought my search was too simple.
Maureen
E Yorks
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Brian - in the case of Maltese, and probably also Spanish lace, we would
not dream of using spangled bobbins. Our traditional pillows are upright.
In Malta we have a bolster type pillow that it wider at the top. The
Spanish use a similar pillow which is then flat at the back (I prefer it
because
Dear all,
If you don't know what bobbins to go for, buy the bobbins you love the look of.
I was used to continental bobbins, but I loved the look of the spangled Midland
bobbins. So I bought 10 pairs and spangled them myself. When I first used them
I thought I made the biggest mistake, I
Dear Jeri, et al,
I agree with Elaine Merritt and add the fact that you can get basic continental
bobbins for $1 per. The only real drawback is that some people complain that
they roll. Then, enter the square bobbin, although I don't really think that
is necessary. Midlands bobbins are
Hi Clay and fellow Arachnids,
You are much admired Clay for taking on such a difficult piece. If it is the
lace I think it is the diagram may run to 4 pages, this is a piece of
Binche lace is VERY fine and intricate. I saw a series of ten or twelve
pieces like this in Brugge a few years
Thank you, Jopie! Yes, I suspect you are thinking of the right pieces of lace!
I worked another piece in the group last year, and a photo is also in my
Flickr set. The diagram is printed on a large (A) sheet of paper which, when
folded, is A-4. In spite of the large size of the paper, it
Hello Sof,
when I saw the topic above in the discussion I thought immediately on you and
your doll as you introduced it to me before the OIDFA congress in Caen. And
when we meet there I told you that I don't think the tour Eiffel is a doll, do
you remember ;-)))
But it's a big and lovely work.
We look forward to seeing it finished and framed at Sweet Briar this year.
Sue
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Good luck on that one!!! But lace makers at LASB may be there when I do
actually finish it... Now that must make everyone rush to sign up!!! (VERY
big grin!)
Clay
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On Jan 15, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com wrote:
We look forward to seeing it finished
This is my most challenging lace project so far.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/warpedandwonderful/8310332097/
overall it is 20 x 33
there are 8 strips sewn together to fill the center
took about 9 months to complete.
Vila Cox
Warped Wonderful http://www.warpedandwonderful.com
Wow! That's beautiful. Well done you!
Catherine Barley
UK
Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com
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have ever done?
This is my most challenging lace project so far.
http://www.flickr.com/photos
Omg. What threads used?
Carrie drooling
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On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Vila Cox v...@warpedandwonderful.com wrote:
This is my most challenging lace project so far.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/warpedandwonderful/8310332097/
overall it is 20 x 33
there are 8 strips sewn
I used 40/2 linen from Webs http://www.yarn.com/ It's more of a weaving
yarn than for lace, but it worked. I wove a piece of cloth with it for
another runner that I made the lace edge from the same linen.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/warpedandwonderful/8311368508/in/photostream/lightbox/
This is quite beautiful Vila.
While on Flickr, I took the opportunity to look at your other photos of
your lace and weaving too. It is all quite inspiring.
Janis in South Africa
On 2014/01/14 04:37 PM, Vila Cox wrote:
This is my most challenging lace project so far.
I love the flickr site and I do find it inspirational however there are two
things that immediately came to me when I read Clay's answer.
Firstly, I've never posted to Flickr
Secondly, I made pieces of lace and gave them away as presents long before I
started to take photos of my lace because
Sherry,
I am curious as to what people have made out there in Lacingland that you
would call the ultimate piece of lace you have ever made or felt good about
when finished.
Mine would have to be the large edging in Toender which I made a few
years ago. The pricking was very skew-whiff and
David, have you not trained the cat?
My most challenging piece is still on the pillow: Wisteria Hankie Edging.
It is a Bedfordshire pattern which was trued up by Christine Springett, and
I started it on her course last May.
Since then it has been sitting there, and I stare at it, and think: one
Please, Mary! Can you add pictures to Flickr? Your work sounds superlative!
Clay
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On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:06 PM, mary carey d...@hotmail.com wrote:
The framed piece came back to Sydney for the 25 yr Exhibition in the Foyer of
State Government House and now hangs off our
Hi Sherry!
The answer to this question can be *seen* if you go to the Flickr website which
Arachne members use to post their latest and greatest! It is full of stunning
work!
I might add that greatness is not measured in size alone. There are lots of
relatively small pieces which are
The biggest piece I have done as in the most bobbins is still under wraps at
the moment.
The biggest piece size-wise would have to be the 160 cm long
scarf I completed last year in Thai silk from one of the Dutch books...cannot
put my hands on it right now.
The most difficult piece was a
Hello everyone,
Â
In 2009 or 2010 I think it was, I spent a few weeks in Nice . One afternoon
I went to a nearby hill village, Grasse, that is particularly celebrated for
perfume. I found a small museum at the top of the village near the main
road with a beautiful display of local costumes
Dear Susan,
Thank you so much for these two websites. I am trying to keep a list of lace
places to see, and Cogne is a new one. The Le Puy website is new to me,
although I have been there. It is a lovely website with lots to see. I saw it
in 2007, and I can attest that at that time the
Of course the best way to travel to Le Puy is not by train or car, but by
foot with a scallop shell slung around your neck :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Way_of_St._James#Medieval_route
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No, no, you *leave *from Le Puy for Compostella, having been first blessed
in the cathedral, and taking with you a stick, a cape and your pilgrim's
pass - and you gather the scallop shell from the beach at Compostela and
bring it back to prove you've been there!
2013/12/12 dmt11h...@aol.com
Nice - Lyon is four and a half hours if you get a direct train, five if you
change at Marseille, Aix or Avignon.
The days of the absolute punctuality of French trains are in the past; my
son had to spend a night in the youth hostel in Nice this year, because all
the trains that accepted bikes had
Arlene's question was:
Anything possible to see as a day trip via train/bus that a
not-so-brave traveler who does not speak French could possibly get to?
I am afraid that my true feeling about this is that the answer is no,
especially now that Susan has told us that Lyon is 4 1/2 hours
Hi Arlene and everyone,
Let's imagine you were on a trip and you ended up in Nice, France,
and you have an extra day before you leave. Is there anything lace related
in that city?
Le Puy is a beautiful place, with a fine exhibition hall, next year (June
to December) the theme is 'The finest
Arlene's question is a difficult one, requiring not only a knowledge of
lace tourism, but also of French train routes. I have only visited the lace
areas around Le Puy, including Retournac and Brioude in a car, something I
wrote about in the Bulletin several years ago. In a car, it was
Hello Vickie and everyone
At a glance, it looks early 20th century, machine made. The gathered corner
suggests it came from a manufactory or workshop, where lengths of it were
made. The deeply hemmed fabric part could have been hand-done. I can't tell
from the photos (or my screen?) if attaching
As you say any thread can be used for bobbin lace, but some are better than
others!
First of all the thickness *has* to be compatible with the scale of the
pricking.
Secondly, for some people the direction of the twist makes a lot of difference.
Because BL has more twists (right over left)
Thank you so much, Brenda, for responding to my post. I love, love, love your
thread book and refer to it constantly. I appreciate the details you wrote
out and I, too, have printed out this post and will keep it in my copy of your
book.
To get a little more detailed, I think the reason I
Lorelei wrote: At that time period Genoa was making bobbin lace, similar in
style to reticello. And some of those leaf shapes and triangles in the painting
seem to have 3 raised ridges in them, not 2. For needlelace you would expect 2
ridges. But for bobbin lace one would expect 3 ridges.
Hello Liz and everyone
Excellent to bring this up. This is a painterly trick, 'painting negative
space' - one way to deal with the illusion, to show a three-dimensional
object on a flat piece of paper! For the painter who doesn't make lace, it
is probably easier to paint the holes, than to try to
I will stick my neck out and say that I think it looks like Reticella too.
What does everyone else think?
Liz R, Raleigh, NC
Witchy Woman wytchy...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I did find one picture with beautiful lace...Portrait of a Woman by
Cornelis
Janssen van Ceulen, painted in 1619. I
I would agree as the two main laces of that period were reticle la and punto in
aria (which I think predictive text has just changed the name of again but it's
late and I'm too tired to fight).
So, I'd say Reticella.
Kind Regards
Liz Baker
On 7 Apr 2013, at 23:59, lbuy...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Dear Peg,
We are to get your weather tomorrow. We have plans to weed the strawberry
patch. Not fun, but needed. I think you should make the lace near the
picture whether you know the name or not. I love to make lace in beautiful
places. By a lake, in view of a mountain, by a river, in a
I was looking at the picture. I suspect one could copy the lace from what
is in the picture, although I don't know enough about needlelace to be sure.
If the artist was so concerned with the lace that he paints it so
exquisitely, it must have been important not only to him, but to his subject
I am almost 100% sure it's reticello and punto in aria.
All of the elements are very much in keeping with the time, and the
patterns of the late 1500's to early 1600's. And now, you've got me
thinking I might do this for a friend, rather than the pattern I was going
to do for a partlet. It's a
Hello Arachnids All,
Well - thanks for the information, to all of you who have replied! I realise
I do have a memory stick for the laptop, but didn't associate it with a flash
drive - my mind was working on cameras, at that point!
As someone once said, America and the UK are two countries
Laurie,
Anybody recognize this thing? Ebay #221200831052.
While I haven't seen one in that shape, I'd say it's an antique
version of a bobbin tree - something I can't live without.
David in Ballarat, AUS
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When I looked at the picture my first reaction was that is was a kind of
needle holder for an embroiderer using several colours. By having needles
threaded in the required colours it was quick and easy to switch.
Modern holders are flat and, I think, magnetic. I've only seen them in
At 11:33 PM 28/01/2013, Laurie Waters wrote:
I'm completely stumped. What is this? Ebay item 230919293913
Laurie,
it looks like it must be some sort of tool to help with sewings I'd reckon.
David in Ballarat, AUS
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if you enlarge it are Maltese crosses to see. But the photo isn't good enough
to see the rest clearly.
Ilske
Am 28.01.2013 um 13:33 schrieb Laurie Waters:
I'm completely stumped. What is this? Ebay item 230919293913
Laurie
http://lacenews.net
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Lyn wrote:
The points at the end with the eye give pause.
When I was studying embroidery, at one point I needed to couch gold threads to
cover a large surface area. I developed a technique where I used a needle with
the point on the same end as the eye to do faster and more accurate couching
Hello Liz and everyone
Oh that Bing ;)
When I read the title, Ciseaux Aiguilles de Dentellière ... etc. I
translated that as Needlelace Scissors, rare and unusual.
In the later description, 'old' is added...
Then this is intriguing:
En creux Breveté SGDG et REPAI??. Bel état. possibly
Good morning
I also agree with Jane.My daughters both chose ivory for their wedding
dresses but I would have thought that one of them would have chosen white as
she is dark haired and has quite an olive coloured skin. It all depends on
the dress that they see and like at the time, and of
I think the design used in the latest IOLI is beautiful - have a look at
that
Sue
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From: Susie Rose
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:08 PM
Today my DD Leah turns 16. I want to start making the
lace for her wedding gown.
There is a lovely Tønder pattern called Little Hearts that begs to be
used for a wedding. There is a similar pattern in Bucks as well. I
know that Little Hearts is in the Skovgaard book which has long been
out of print, and Rebecca is a similar design which is found in Stott
and Cook's 100
Susie I am having the same problem picking something for my Grandaughter.
I
will be watching this thread closely
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To: Arachne lace@arachne.com
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:08 PM
Subject: [lace] What thread and/or
Hi Susie,
I too wanted to make lace for my youngest daughter's future wedding but neither
she nor I had any idea what kind of dress she would want and so I began yardage
for a wedding veil when she was still in high school. I chose a torchon
pattern about 2 wide and used Metler 60/2 cotton
Liz, my dear... You've left us all in the dust! Of course, I've had the
privilege to meet you, in person, and to see your lace, and so that comes as
no surprise to me to see your WIPS!
Your agenda certainly reminds me of how different your experience of the
Holidays is, and what a culture
HAPPY BIRTHDAY AVITAL!
Sallie in Wyoming, USA
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On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Jane Partridge jpartri...@pebble.demon.co.uk
wrote:
I agree entirely with what Alice has said - I'm also a member of two face
book lace pages.
Whilst we are all busy thanking Liz and Avital for
Hi Nita
The material I am using is 70% baby alpace, 25% silk and 5% cashmere.
My lace teacher warned me about stretching, but on testing (i.e. stretching
a length of it),
it does appear not to be that stretchy; whether it is the silk that makes it
less so, I do not know.
The showl should be
I am currently working on a scarf (from Brigitte Bellon's book). I initially
used alpaca but had a very difficult time since the alpaca was thinning when
pulling on it or trying to do a sewing. Also, I have to admit, I did a lot of
retrolacing and this contributed to the thinning of the tread.
I've thought about using a merino silk blend to make a scarf (Jaeger
spun Zepher) but I was worried it might stretch too much when
finished. When I was first knitting with alpaca, my daugher - who is
an accomplished spinner - told me that it has a tendency to stretch
more than wool (if
Well there is so little to do on the Honiton piece, you could finish that
very quickly. How about that one after you have finished the piece of
'christmas' lace.
Anbd personally I like more than one piece on the go at a time, it gives you
chance to move around.
Maureen
E Yorks
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Last Thursday I finished the Isis Heart I started in Ithaca. GEEZ!!! Are the
mistakes ever glaring. But it was a VERY good learning piece. Thanks,
Jacquie!
Doodling while waiting for Beloved to get off work yesterday I came
up with a
tape lace heart that spirals in on itself. Thought it
Hi Arachnids,
At present I am racking my brain to think of something to do for the
Christmas exchange. I am also working -very slowly- on a dragon's face for
my son. I have taken a drawing out of a design book of dragons (The Big Book
of Dragons) and am working it directly onto the drawing as
Evening all
Well I would answer this question but it depends on which
pillow I have a beginner piece of honiton on the smallest pillow,
a piece of 'christmas' lace on the next one up, a bedfordshire motif
with gimps, rolled tallies, a nine pin edge and leaves on a third
pillow
My CAT. She loves the pins and pulls them out with her teeth!
Becca
Looking through pictures from various lace days I find my eye tends to
wander off the lace and to the background - is that a cross stitch cover
cloth? Where can I get a . like that? Is that a bobbin holder? New style
I have a lovely quilted cover made by a dear friend, which I was lucky
enough to win in a raffle! It was designed as a wall hanging, but is
the perfect size to cover my pillow, and makes me smile whenever I look
at it!
Clay
On 4/7/2011 5:06 AM, Jenny Brandis wrote:
Looking through pictures
what do you have attached to your
working pillow?
I've got a little turned wooden pot about two and a half inches deep and an
inch across which has a spike on the bottom to stick into the pillow. It's
very useful for holding a pin pusher, or a crochet hook when I need to do lots
of sewings.
Hello Alison and everyone
I have one of those too, given to me by a dear lace friend. It is
handy for crafts that require tools at hand in one place, and they are
a nice little project for the wood-turner to make. The spike can go
into a pincushion, a lace pillow or a brick of foam, for instance.
What's on my working pillow?A real (but dead) red back spider encased in
Perspex, in form of a button, in honour of Arachne. I was told the old
saying was if you have a spider on your pillow, your thread's wont break.
It was bought for me by my son (who knows about Arachne) the day our
I've got 3 projects on the 'pillows' at the moment
1 (the most important...) a wedding garter for my daughter, and I wish
they'd make a decision on the date so I knew if I could do anything
else alongside it!! It's one of Biggins patterns, white with silver
and blue 'rope style' fans
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