Jack Coates wrote:
> A factor here is that most distributions will backup anything there into
> local.lrp, which doubles up your space usage.
As far as I've seen, a properly coded .list file ensures
that any directory and/or files in my .list file won't get
backed up by other packages like lo
A message I just received from Apacer
Dear Stefaan,
More information on the WP function. Apacer product is programmable for WP.
The WP pin is low active, so
WP wll be activated whenever the pin is asserted low. The system board,
however, needs to have a WP controll logic to enable/disable WP. N
David Douthitt wrote:
>
> On 2/7/02 at 7:32 PM, Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Is there some kind of standard whereby, when building a new LEAF
> > package, we know *where* particular files belong?
>
> The trouble is, there's no true standard at all. I administrate 4 or
>
On 2/7/02 at 9:07 AM, Charles Steinkuehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> You might also want to check out the gentoo linux portage
> system: http://www.gentoo.org
I've heard of them a while back; the creator was inspired to create
his own distribution partly because of the BSD ports tree.
I just
On 2/7/02 at 7:32 PM, Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there some kind of standard whereby, when building a new LEAF
> package, we know *where* particular files belong?
The trouble is, there's no true standard at all. I administrate 4 or
5 varieties of UNIX at work; they have
I figured out some of the confusion I was seeing:
1) hwclock reports the time in LOCALTIME if you don't specify --utc or
--localtime
2) If you specify --utc or --localtime and the hardware clock is *NOT*
set as you describe - the time could be reported wrong.
3) busybox date is just fine; u
On 2/7/02 at 9:35 AM, guitarlynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(I had written:)
> > > After the make install is done, the LEAF system now has
> > > /tmp/wget.lrp and an installed wget binary.
Lynn wrote:
> Then you have come up with how Debian now installs . a
> set of one or more boot floppi
On 2/7/02 at 10:07 AM, Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've always been attracted by this, even to the point of
> installed an OpenBSD 2.9 system to futz with.
I bought OpenBSD 2.6 - and just invested in OpenBSD 3.0 :) Nice thing
to install on a Quadra 800 :) Just installed OpenBSD 3.
On 2/7/02 at 1:54 PM, Charles Steinkuehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I would *REALLY* like to have a powerful scripting
> language available by default for use on future LEAF
> distributions (yes, shell scripting is powerful, it's just
> lacking a bit in the data manipulation department). Sinc
OK, first off, with my recent problems with netsnmpd.lrp, I need to roll
my own ;>
So, off I goto my slink development box and start compiling.
[1] For the life of me, I cannot figure out how the libraries grew 300%
between v4.2.1 and v4.2.3!
This is the current netsnmpd.lrp:
# ls -al `find /
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Matt Schalit wrote:
> Then again, people are maintaining low level system
> applications, and those often get scattered into the usual
> directories you mentioned. LRP and LEAF variants have
> historically not populated /usr/local very much at all.
>
> Regards ya'll,
> Matth
Andrew Hoying wrote:
>
> I agree, I tend to put things where I would expect to find them, since
> usr/local is for packages that are installed by the user, I don't see LRP
> packages as falling into that area.
>
> I prefer it if every package put it's configuration files in a subdirectory
> of e
I agree, I tend to put things where I would expect to find them, since
usr/local is for packages that are installed by the user, I don't see LRP
packages as falling into that area.
I prefer it if every package put it's configuration files in a subdirectory
of etc, used var for it's run and or spo
Is there some kind of standard whereby, when building a new LEAF
package, we know *where* particular files belong?
>From my brief experience, it appears that most LRP packages are built
with non-default file locations. For example (not to pick on you,
Andrew ;), netsnmpd.lrp puts configuration
Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> At 2002-02-07 14:12 -0800, Matt Schalit wrote:
> >Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
> > > The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least
> > > on the my modules it is).
> > >
> > > I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
> > >
> > > I will check th
At 2002-02-07 14:12 -0800, Matt Schalit wrote:
>Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
> > The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least
> > on the my modules it is).
> >
> > I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
> >
> > I will check the manuals asap.
>
>Perhaps you have d
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Matt Schalit wrote:
> Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least on the my
> > modules it is).
> >
> > I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
> >
> > I will check the manuals asap.
> >
Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
>No...that's exactly what I'm thinking. There should be a consistent way to
>configure/manage a package, so multiple front-ends can be driven w/o
>requiring changes to the basic package. Maybe even a set of low-level
tools
>to deal with modifying configuration files,
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 22:04:10 -0600
>From: David Douthitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Useful comments from Dave
>To: LEAF Development <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>The initial RAMdisk configuration is either in *.gz or in *.tar.gz
>formats. A standard Linux kernel witho
Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least on the my
> modules it is).
>
> I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
>
> I will check the manuals asap.
>
> Stefaan
Perhaps you have different modules. The one refer
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> I absolutely agree, but I think you're missing the point regarding how I'd
> like to use the Gentoo portage system (or something similar).
>
> I am mainly looking for a way to co-opt a configuration/compiling
> environment to make it easy for dev
I would *REALLY* like to have a powerful scripting language available by
default for use on future LEAF distributions (yes, shell scripting is
powerful, it's just lacking a bit in the data manipulation department).
Since I'd like for all distributions to include this scripting language, and
I want
> So the choices I'm looking at for my next Linux install (now that my
> Mandrake 8 boxen are getting out of date) are:
>
> LFS: appealing idea, but doesn't fix upgrading issues.
> Gentoo: leading the pack because they've brought ports to Linux.
> Sorcerer: very nifty, but showing a lot of rough e
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, David Douthitt wrote:
> I've been working on setting up ports a little bit. I've finally
> gotten to installing OpenBSD (this time on intel instead of mac68k)
> and it uses ports like the other BSDs.
>
> Ports are really nice - basically you can download the entire ports
> tr
On Thursday 07 February 2002 11:24, Mike Noyes wrote:
> At 2002-02-07 10:47 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
> >I just got word back from PQI, I should get a data sheet in a couple
> >of weeks. It won't be availiable until May though :(
> >
> >### snip ##3
> >Secure DOM is our
At 2002-02-07 10:47 -0600, guitarlynn wrote:
>I just got word back from PQI, I should get a data sheet in a couple
>of weeks. It won't be availiable until May though :(
>
>### snip ##3
>Secure DOM is our latest DOM product; it also being asked by
>many of customers who
At 2002-02-07 17:59 +0100, arne @ loopback . org wrote:
>On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:41:33AM -0600, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> > No...this is not (easily) possible.
> >
> > The ATA interface is a complex combination of registers that
> > require read/write access to send commands and recieve sta
On Thursday 07 February 2002 10:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:41:33AM -0600, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> > To install a "write-protect device" between
> > the motherboard and an ATA device, you need something that
> > understands ATA at the application level, and retu
On Thursday 07 February 2002 09:55, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> My intent was to suggest we co-opt the portage system to enable an
> easily installed, standard development environment. We would also be
> able to benifit from the work of others maintaining the portage tree
> (updating packages
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:41:33AM -0600, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> > > This is the solution I was hoping for, but it looks like the ADM on
> board
> > > three pin jumper is for master/slave selection not WP#. :-(
> >
> > but shouldn't it be possible to build an adapter that is between the
> >
I just got word back from PQI, I should get a data sheet in a couple of
weeks. It won't be availiable until May though :(
### snip ##3
Dear Lynn
Yes, we are now ready to present the first model of our Secure Disk on
Module product; it will be formally launch to the
> > This is the solution I was hoping for, but it looks like the ADM on
board
> > three pin jumper is for master/slave selection not WP#. :-(
>
> but shouldn't it be possible to build an adapter that is between the
> motherboard and the ata disk that changes just this behaviour and loops
all
> oth
On Thursday 07 February 2002 01:26, David Douthitt wrote:
> I've been looking into the date and time set in an Oxygen system, and
> comparing to a Mandrake system.
That is a nightmare on Mandy 8+ I think your referring to a older
relase (I hope!). LFS is probably clearer for what we're looki
At 2002-02-07 17:20 +0100, arne @ loopback . org wrote:
>On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 08:06:47AM -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> > In other words, you need a custom motherboard/ata controller, to
> > support WP# pin 30.
> >
> > >I would suggest folks wanting to make use of this new ATA flash
> > >disk wit
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 08:06:47AM -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
> In other words, you need a custom motherboard/ata controller, to support
> WP# pin 30.
>
> >I would suggest folks wanting to make use of this new ATA flash disk
> >with write-enable wire a switch between pins one and two of the WP#
>
At 2002-02-07 09:47 -0600, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> > Would someone with some EE background look at the pdf below, and
> > explain to me in layman terms if it's possible to use WP# pin 30 on
> > standard motherboards.
> >
> > http://www.ssti.com/products/pdf/519-58SM-LM8-192-01.000-DS.pdf
>
>
> I haven't played with Gentoo, but this sounds very similar to 'ALFS'
> which is an automated LFS. It compiles on the client box, but we
> could work around that via CGI/MySQL and everything is done via
> chroot. Source is available too.
>
> The problem I'm seeing is that SF is going to _kill_ us
> Would someone with some EE background look at the pdf below, and explain
to
> me in layman terms if it's possible to use WP# pin 30 on standard
motherboards.
>
> http://www.ssti.com/products/pdf/519-58SM-LM8-192-01.000-DS.pdf
The simple answer: No
More detailed explination:
Pin 30 is defined a
comments inline ;}
In reply to DD & CS (& others...):
> > After the make install is done, the LEAF system now has
> > /tmp/wget.lrp and an installed wget binary.
Then you have come up with how Debian now installs . a set
of one or more boot floppies, then 'wget' everything else. The
unsta
At 2002-02-07 15:59 +0100, Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
>The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least on
>the my modules it is).
>
>I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
>
>I will check the manuals asap.
Stefaan,
Thanks for looking into this, and correcting me.
> I've been working on setting up ports a little bit. I've finally
> gotten to installing OpenBSD (this time on intel instead of mac68k)
> and it uses ports like the other BSDs.
>
> Ports are really nice - basically you can download the entire ports
> tree, or just one. Then, you change director
Mike,
The three pin jumper is for master slave settings for IDE(at least on the my
modules it is).
I don't see anything about writeprotect on the module.
I will check the manuals asap.
Stefaan
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mik
At 2002-02-07 09:35 +0100, Stefaan Van Dooren wrote:
> > Apacer is making a ATA-Disk Module (ADM) too.
> >
> > http://www.apacer.com/product/flash/f_adc.htm
> >
>
>These are working great (have several of them running), but they
>don't have writeprotect switch, jumper.
Stefaan,
This particular mo
At 2002-02-06 22:19 -0600, David Douthitt wrote:
>Considering what this could mean for LEAF, consider this: a
>NFS-enabled LEAF system, with / from a full system mounted somewhere.
>Changing directories to /usr/src/ports/net/wget, do a make (pulls the
>file in, patches, builds, compiles) - and a m
I've had a chance to try Firewall Builder (http://www.fwbuilder.org)
and it seems very nice. It's a very popular download at Freshmeat,
apparently - but it only works for IPtables and IPFilter. You've got
to try it...
Has anyone heard of the recent flap with IPFilter and OpenBSD?
OpenBSD, appa
David Douthitt wrote:
>
> I've been looking into the date and time set in an Oxygen system, and
> comparing to a Mandrake system.
Well, we can agree that busybox date doesn't work, because
you proved that to be the case when you cc'd the list with
your email to busybox devel. The guy said it wa
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, David Douthitt wrote:
> I've been looking into the date and time set in an Oxygen system, and
> comparing to a Mandrake system.
>
> The confusion comes this way:
>
> * Hardware clock: set value
> * Hardware clock (hwclock): value displayed
Interesting comment on manpage:
> Jeff,
> Exactly. It's almost identical to the PQI DiskOnModule (DOM) product too.
> I'm still trying to get pricing information. From what I can tell the
> product came out in Oct, so the channel hasn't filled yet. Apacer
> is making
> a ATA-Disk Module (ADM) too.
>
> http://www.apacer.com/pro
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