Hi again Everyone
This query isn't intended to cause any issues, and I'm well aware of
what makes a source more credible etc. Lately, I've seen material
that has been channelled through spirit mediums. I know the
cataloguing way to source this material, but was curious if others
have had any expe
Hi Everyone
I've been lurking for ages, going on holidays visiting living and
deceased relatives, started getting called a tomb raider by my family.
Anyways - I found an image in our national archives of a man that has
the same name as my ancestor, in an area the same as my ancestor. His
image is
I've never used event addresses, for my locations I've generally added
all the cemeteries, hospitals etc into the location field, as I never
worry about segmenting my locations with 4 or 5 sections. I'll have a
play with these suggestions and see what will work with my methods
now. Thanks for the
Hi Listers
I'm preparing for a two week holiday where I'll be visiting family
(living and deceased) and I'll be using our new beaut GPS thingee
which provides coordinates for your location, not just how to travel
from A to B.
I want to put down the coordinates for any cemetery (maybe the
entrance)
The only option for different names in Legacy Charting that I could
see with Descendant charts was to use a married name or not.
This isn't the recommended way to enter names in your file, but I've
inherited some names from other family members where they have used a
slash between the birth name a
It's one of the reasons I wanted to copy my father's lines to two
other files, I need to see different preferred names for same people
in reports in my grandmother's line to the ones on my grandfather's
line. I got tired of changing preferred names and preferred
relationships around, especially so
Hi Ron,
Yes I've just run a check/repair, then created the descendant
narrative report again - same results with the double name, child
marriage status of never married and had no children was repeated for
parent in next marriage sentence. I'll check to see if its the same
results for mothers and
Hi Listers
I've just checked another mother who had similar situations, but no
quoted names, two marriages, last child from first marriage "never
married and had no children". Next paragraph reads "Minnie Minnie
never married and had no children. Eric, on [date and place of
marriage]. He had one s
Hi Listers
I couldn't see this topic in the Archives. Has anyone else come
across this error? I created a descendant report for a woman that had
two husbands, all of her children are from the first marriage, and the
last child died young and has the text "never married and had no
children".
In t
Hi Listers
A few years back I decided to run with one family file and do my
research in that, so that I wouldn't have to figure out if I had
updated any other files that had the same people. My research needs
now require a split for my dad's line.
My biggest dilemma is keeping any changes updated
Thanks Dennis, could I still change the numbers if I export to another
legacy file and rather than keep MRINs, start them at a particular
number set?
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Can anyone tell me which table has MRINs? I'd like to change the
MRINs through Access, rather than changing 5,000 MRINs one at a time
through Legacy. Unless anyone has an easier way of changing the
MRINs.
I have been playing with Passage Express and found that it doesn't
always differ
I guess my other query is - would the picture linking issue occur with
other exports from Legacy, such as to gedcom files?
Cheers
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Its that time of year again when a lot of us send off reports to
family members with latest updates on research. So I've been working
with Passage Express, importing my pictures, files and sounds from my
Legacy database. After I updated to the 28 Nov build, some of my
source pictures b
Not a bad idea, thanks Ron.
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After I read "Getting it right" I started looking at Australian
Timelines, a year ago I updated the one I had on Australian Prime
Ministers. So this time I went to the Australian War Memorial and
used their references to create a timeline on Australians at War, the
only war not listed was Iraq fro
I've got both those books, I've read through "Getting it right" and
re-thought a few of my processes. It was very helpful in seeing
examples of what types of information can be used with events. The
one thing I doubt I'll change is how I add names to my data base, the
preference is for using the
Thanks Ron, I've done a couple of check/repairs and nothing, then
overnight the glitch is gone, not sure what fixed it (possibly more
check/repairs), just glad its working again. Its not long til I send
out reports etc for family, so I wanted to get it sorted fast.
Appreciate knowing about web.us
There was an email from Geoff Rasmussen on keeping the old source
(basic) and creating a new source (sourcewriter) and copying and
pasting from the old into the new. I did a silly thing in combining a
basic source into a sourcewriter source, there are some elements that
appear in the displays that
Hi Listers
I have some saved settings for creating web pages in individual report
format for several people. Not sure what I've changed but when I
create a report, it goes through the process creates everything, but
my name lists are blank ie zero names listed, while the individual
pages are fine.
I'm in Australia and use GenSmarts, I like the sandbox feature where
you set up your own complex searches of your Legacy file. From that I
could gauge which people to look at for military records, indexes etc,
because GenSmarts makes guesses at dating for individuals. While the
suggested dating i
I've haven't been watching the list for a couple of days, family's
been struck down with flu. I'd like to point out for anyone who would
like to use Passage Express with their files and photos, it doesn't
always like underscores in file names. I like to use PE, so I've
renamed files I want to imp
I liked learning from Help how to use some of the formatting like
[-Desc] when the first letter of the description appears in lowercase.
I prefer sentence style events, so it works well with my occupation
event eg I can put Farmer in Description but the sentence reads - He
worked as a farmer.
I us
Kathy, has anyone mentioned that if you have more than one spouse, the
spouses will appear in the order that you put them into your file,
regardless of chronological order? The spouses will display
differently though, if you set a preferred relationship - usually
defaults to the first relationship
Hi Donna
Did you get an answer to your question yet? I found when I use
Passage Express it saves all the files again into its own set of
folders within Passage Express project folders, and the length of the
file path is long and seems weird. To set your menu button with the
fdb file, choose the o
Thanks guys, I've been unsure of what to use for some merging I'm
doing. In the past I've had people who haven't used my research, I've
given them credit, but now some are passing the sourcing credit on to
me. I'll add their name/s to each piece of information they have
given me.
Cheers
Tracy
I also use Genelines for Legacy, and I just tried a comparative
biographical chart for three people, it worked with timelines etc.
Genelines for Legacy is one of the add on programs you could use, but
it is also an added cost to purchase if you don't already have it.
Cheers
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Hi Listers
How do you deal with others sharing your research and using you as a
source? Especially when they aren't picking up on the fact that
you've used this or that book, certificate, database etc as your
source.
They are in effect adding your research to their file and crediting
you not your
Ok then, I'll add the source picture to my source, include the text
from it in my source information, but I'll stop adding picture details
for each source picture (I'm only repeating the source details, so I
won't miss anything about the source).
Each element of sourcing is time consuming and to m
Elsie, you can still have an event displaying in the Family View (see
my previous email), but the event will not display in the same place
in an Individual edit screen, it will appear in the Events/Facts area
of the Individual edit screen.
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I'm about to start using source pictures in my file and would like to
know if I should continue transcribing the information from the source
or leave it for the source picture to display?
I can't seem to use the Picture Gallery to add a source picture, I
seem to have to add the picture
Elsie,
Your Relationship event can be viewed on the Family View screen, right
click to the left of the screen where the labels are eg born, died,
buried - 'Customise Family View Information' box will display. Pick
one of the field names (when I view something different to the default
I usually cho
Dave, there were a couple of threads last year that you may find in
the Archives that could have suggestions on inputting Chinese names,
the subject lines and dates were:
- Changing the order of Chinese names sept 2007
- Chinese surnames June 2007
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I wasn't aware there had been an update, my Legacy Home page in v7 and
the 'Update' link both display that build 7.0.0.45 2 June 2008 is
still the latest build. Thanks for raising awareness of the new build
through the list.
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I can't help you with every report. I've got an aunty who had two
relationships and children to both, then when she was single fostered
another child who doesn't belong to either of the first two
relationships. So in Legacy the foster child is linked to another
MRIN where I've changed the s
Hi Listers
I didn't always keep the scraps of paper I wrote down information from
conversations with family members, I have changed my ways now. So
without printouts or other more accessible electronic versions of my
file that list my sources, I thought of restoring some of the backups
I've kept.
Thanks Colin, I've already paid for v7 and Mills Evidence explained in
pdf, that's what I meant by rats I was too impatient. I'm slowly
building my CD collection of AUS/NZ info so I could have waited. Ah
well no probs with what I've got now, so no worries. Thanks for the
heads up, I forget about
hmmm, I use plain text, can't see why there would be gunk happening on
my emails, curiouser and curiouser.
Early Australian newspapers use text like "announcing the birth of a
new child to Mr and Mrs John Smith", this is why I've added an AKA for
Mrs John Smith for most of my pre-1960 married fema
Just a quick note to Ron - when I finished the deed poll and it got
formalised. I had to surrender my birth certificate and apply for the
new one, looking back it seems funny. Pity I never thought back then
of my later love for genealogy, I never kept copies of the old birth
certificate. But my n
rats, I could have wait - oh impatient me. :) I'll just get them in a
different way.
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Some of the emails here have discussed change of names. I've changed
my name through deed poll and now I use my husband's surname. I've
seen other family files where the surname is listed as "Jones Now
Smith" or "Jones/Smith". Others have used birth names and add AKAs
for all the names, as well
One of the tips I noticed in the Legacy website is to create a family
report for each MRIN. I guess its up to you whether you print it out
with each family or not.
I keep mine in various ways, print and electronic files, either
through Passage Express or straight copy to CDs/DVDs, or I save to my
Wouldn't an Individual report do what you want too? As long as you've
selected all the source elements you want to see (eg pictures), I just
tried these methods with a person who has more sources than one screen
shot if I used the screen shot and paste method, but the Individual
report is pretty q
Hi Walt
The easiest way is to create a Focus Group through Search >
Miscellaneous. You can add one or more family lines, with or without
extra spouses and children, save the list. Create the gedcom by
Exporting to gedcom, identify who to add through the Record Selection
button and choose the radi
Thanks Ron, while I'm playing with the new features, I'm also
rechecking my sources and wanted to clarify a couple of things, so I
could plan the changes to my file that I think I'll be making.
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Hi JB
I asked a similar question a week ago, no responses yet, but then with
the high traffic on the list its not surprising. Someone will chime
in with something sooner or later.
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Probably the same reason it initially defaulted the postage cost to
Australia, but I eventually got no shipping cost because it was
download only.
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Hi Listers
I'm trying to determine how to use the verified check box for sources,
I know that its probably a personal choice. But I'd like to clarify
which is the most widely used.
Verfied checked:
a) only if I've personally checked the source
b) only if there are two or more sources with the sam
Hi Listers
I was somewhat peeved that my favourite way of entering/displaying
Surnames (uppercase) was giving me grief with the Standardisation tip
messages. I'd spent too many days changing master lists for uppercase
surnames to intial case and back again. Then after constantly getting
this Stan
Hi Listers
Does anyone else have the Source Detail information showing up with
text you didn't put in there (for a master source in sourcewriter
format)? In my case text in Source Detail information from a previous
source is displaying in the Assigned Sources view, yet the text
doesn't display in
The one foster child I've got in my file, adding him was tricky as I
had to add an unlinked person then link to the mother only, so that
the child appeared while she was single, rather than with her other
marriage relationships. I added this child because I do family
history and add whatever relat
Pat, you'll need to change your settings, you emails appear on the LUG
list with a text attachment. I've added your text to this email, so
others can read it.
Cheers
Tracy
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Ahhh, I enter surnames in all capitals, prefer them for my reports.
Was wondering why I got the should use mixed case pop up at me. I
knew about the Options>Customise check box for all capitals, but not
about the potential problems. Thanks for sharing.
I don't believe this, I spent I don't know
Hi Listers
Is there anyway to set a default for "Show Entire Source" tab for an
individual rather than "Show Source Printing Options" tab. I can't
find this information in the manual or Help file. I prefer to see a
summary of the source information I've added. I miss the Summary tab,
but the "Sho
Thanks Ron, I feel a little better about it now. I'll leave the AKAs
in, but still use the global change for married names.
I don't mind having extra AKAs in my file, although I do use an event
for spelling errors in names from research provided by family where
they were guessing at spelling etc.
I've added AKAs in v6 for married names. If I use v7 global change to
married name (because I like the look of the name index format for
married names), do I then have to go into my file and delete all the
AKAs for married names I added in previous versions? (thousands
unfortunately)
Cheers
Tracy
I went through this also a few months ago, a cousin had some research
that he was willing to share with me, but he couldn't figure out how
to create a gedcom, he could only send me the full FTM file or pdf
reports. A willing soul in this list helped me convert the FTM file to
gedcom. Unfortunately
Hi Listers
Just a quick question about the format of locations in v7 and the
mapping features, I'd like to know early if the v7 mapping features
require locations entered in a specific way to work effectively.
I don't use the standard USA location format, ie for v6 geodatabase
locations, I change
Hi Listers
I've just received from a cousin a gedcom with over 3000 people on it.
Many of these people are in my main file. When I use research from
others I add them as a Master source and add their exact text in
Detail Text - so a straight merge won't add to Detail Text, I've
always copied thei
I've got a couple of people who were cremated and later buried or
ashes interred. For those people, I used the burial details for where
they are finally located, and put in the burial note information on
the cremation and burial plot. If I have more information on the
cremation, I'll add a cremat
Did you stop changing your Legacy file at a certain date before you
upgraded to Legacy 6? If yes, then you can do a search for any
modified information after that date in a search. This may help you
find differences. I also use GenMatcher to check against Legacy and
gedcom files for differences
Sorry forgot to mention why I create a CD-ROM over uploading to the
Internet - my immediate family members have let me know they don't
want to find themselves on the Internet. So I create CD-ROMs with a
big note on it - please don't publish this information on the
Internet.
Cheers
Tracy
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I use Passage Express, it can save the whole Legacy file (including
private notes/events/addresses) and can be copied to a CD-ROM. I go
the extra distance of creating a reports as web pages and as pdf, I
add photos and gedcom files for those who use other family history
programs. Its a lot of wor
I saw emails a while back, where some users had created dummy records
with family names, then listed AKAs, history of the names and various
spellings, and used the Research log. I like the idea myself for a
master file and don't link them to the family lines.
I try not to clutter up my AKAs with
Hi again Listers
I saw the wall chart in the last lot of Legacy news and I can't wait
to do play with the photos I've been gathering after begging and
copying from family members for the past couple of years. Does anyone
have any more news on the release date for version 7?
Cheers
Tracy
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Hi Listers
I haven't been following the list for a while because of holidays, but
was curious about the thread on how others add to their files from
gedcoms etc.
I have been fortunate in that some of my husband's family has been
researched and documented into two books that I know about, while two
Or if you haven't added the cemetery to the burial notes change
Notes:Burial to Burial Place.
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If you do a Search > Query by example tab: Look for whom - Individual,
Where to look - Notes:Burial, Contains - [cemetery you want to find] >
Create List button
You should get a list of the people you've added that cemetery to
their burial notes, you can then print the list or used advanced
taggin
Do others modify the event details and format?
eg Event Name: [Date], [Desc], [inPlace].[Source][CR][Note]
Could the Note appear as [[Note]] just as easily as adding [[]] to the
text of every single note for events? so that the note doesn't appear
in reports.
Or are there implications I'm not awa
That's interesting about the certification dates for adoption birth
certificates. In Australia in the 1960s there were still the hassles
of uhoh the parents weren't married when a child was born. My parents
married when I was about two, so by the time my sister was registered,
the Registrar asked
Hi Richard
It probably sounds odd, but I add a child to the parents A&B and name
the child "Placeholder for A&B's grandchildren", then add the
grandchildren to the Placeholder. I have several of these
Placeholders because I've got the names of the descendants, but I
haven't yet been able to connec
Thanks for the thoughts, I'll play with different variations. I
vaguely remember that when I used a ? right next to a date, in reports
the date was listed as unknown. I now try to at least have
"space(?)" after questionable dates, this doesn't seem to mess up date
calculations in reports. It als
Thanks Allen for those thoughts, I'm still new to researching family
history and haven't checked court information yet. I have seen a news
clipping of one court appearance for my family members on sly grogging
charges, a similar type of thing to running moonshine in Australia.
So I'll keep your em
I have added an event "Exemption from the Aboriginal Protection Act"
the proper name for the Act is "Aboriginal Protection and the
Restriction of the Sale of Opium Act 1897", I think its a very odd
name for an Act, so I just shorten it.
I've just noticed the "Physical description" event, never see
Thanks for the different views. My aunt was between partners when she
fostered this child, so I've ended up with a new relationship just to
add this cousin.
Carol - I think you are referring to witness events, at the moment
Legacy doesn't support this. Check the archives there have been lots
of t
Hi Listers
I'm not happy with trying to enter dates into my file. I've got some
dates where the day and month are known, but the year is listed as
19??. I'm not sure how to enter it into my file.
I could enter it twenty or more years after the bride's birthday 1950,
but how to do that?
eg 20 Feb
Hi Listers
I prefer the family history view of the world, I've got heaps of yyy
begat zzz, which are easy to add to the file. What about foster
children? I've got a cousin and in my family's view he is very much a
member of the family even with no biological ties, he became part of
the family ori
If you use an abbreviation or acronym and later find out what it
means, you could always do a global search and replace to change it
the form that you prefer.
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Thanks for the various tips that show up on the list.
I have saved myself lots of mouse and keyboard usage by right clicking
on MRIN and RIN for husband and wife at the bottom of the family
view, its a big time saver when you know which MRIN or RIN you want to
go to.
For a couple of y
Hi Diane
I won't retype all the variations and reasons people lump or split.
Whichever is chosen should suit your own material and possible needs
in future research. Lumpers use fewer master sources and add more
information in the details box, splitters use many more master sources
for names, fami
Sorry Christine, I realise you posted this awhile ago. I use cause of
death, but I don't use capital letters eg leukaemia, and with my
reports I prefer sentence style for research and events, so it
displays in a narrative report something like: The cause of her death
was leukaemia.
Cheers
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Hi Listers
As always I find most of the threads on the list very helpful. Got a
question that some may have faced and would like some ideas on how
others have dealt with it. How do others list an individual when you
don't have a name, however you may have some information on the person
eg Chinese
Hi listers,
I've been following the adoption thread and find the way to list
parents interesting. My cousin was adopted by friends, so I list him
in with his biological family, and with adoptive parents.
I have a friend who used donor sperm for her twins, there was another
participant/parent but
I also regularly check what's been modified on my file and can pick up
changes she's made that way. Legacy is truly so flexible and user
friendly my 4yo loves using it, particularly the pedigree tab with all
the pictures. So I can relate to Bob's issues.
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Tried that Ron, can't seem to lock out the programs on the start menu
in XP for her logon. I've come into the computer room to find her on
software programs like Legacy and Word. She's also prone to changing
shortcut icons on the desktop to her name, very helpful child. So, my
workaround is to kee
Wonderful suggestions, pity my 4yo likes to come to my file while I'm
doing something else, like answering the phone. She likes to type her
name and see the pictures of herself and her grandparents - I can't
always easily find where she's helped me out with data entry/changes.
I did find one the o
Ron, do you also check "Just leave it blank" instead of "Unknown"?
Options > Customise > Data Format > Word for Blank Records > (Just
leave it blank.)
It works well for Legacy, but add-ons like Legacy Charting Companion
put in "Unknown" if the person field is blank for MRINs.
Cheers
Tracy
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Let me put it this way, it can strip them sometimes or leave them in.
The inconsistancy annoys me, so I prefer to replace underscores with
hyphens.
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I use Legacy with Passage Express to create autorun CD-ROMs. I've
found that PE regularly removes any "_" for file names, so all files
with "_" aren't found and I see the dratted box with the red cross for
my images etc that have "_" in them. I've had to work around this by
changing all of my "_"
I use LANE/LANE-HUDSON for myself and similar format for others who
were born with one surname and later changed it for various reasons.
In my case using stepfather's name, deed poll and marriage name
changes, with notes in private brackets [[]] listing dates etc. I use
AKAs for each variation of
Hi Listers
I've also been watching the sourcing threads with interest. I'm not
for or against any particular style. However, having never seen the
Mills book, I was curious if the material/examples used are
generic/universal (ie can be used across countries) or predominently
North American.
Livi
Hi Listers
I'm looking for some advice on how others handle the private check box
on events. I have some events that are on my master list as private,
but most are available for display on reports. Most of my information
is coming either from relatives or publicly available information
sources.
Reproductions of publications can be messy, even in library
cataloguing, Library of Congress uses the original publication details
as publisher, cataloguing rules say use the publisher who reproduced
it. The advice that I keep seeing of being consistent is very
practical. I've got no particular p
Hi Listers
Another freeware printscreen program I like to use, which helps with
text or image conversion or just copying/pasting into other programs
is Printkey2000.
http://www.webtree.ca/newlife/printkey_info.htm
I've used it for years at work and at home.
Cheers
Tracy
Have you unlocked the re
Valerie, one suggestion for you if you have more than one family in
your file is to create a focus group using Search and tag your focus
group with an unused tag no eg 8 or 9, then create your gedcom by
exporting to Gedcom all individuals tagged with 8 or 9 (whichever
you've chosen to use), remembe
Thanks for clarifying that for me. I couldn't figure out why I could
open it in the programs but not from a directory. I'll make mention
of that in my CD-ROMs that I create for others.
Cheers
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I've spent months creating reports from Legacy in various formats and
setting up an autorun CD-ROM using Passage Express. My biggest
problem was Gedcom files and 'Open with' default program, no matter
how I tried, I couldn't get a Gedcom file I'd created through Legacy
to open using a g
Thanks for the thoughts Heather, I'll need to do some more research on
Norwegian and Russian names. I found out some useful details about
Spanish and Dutch names through this list, so it was worth a shot at
seeing if others had experience with Norwegian and Russian names.
Cheers
Tracy
Have you u
Thanks for the thoughts, GenSmarts is a nice research tool, but I
should be realistic with limitations, such as some very odd dates at
times. Still, when you are trying to figure out if someone may have
been alive during particular events such as wars etc, the GEST dates
can be useful.
Cheers
Trac
Give it a rest Mike, nobody likes being flamed. This list is very
helpful and informative, and how you reacted to an innocent question
was unreasonable, but there is no need to go on - I'm done with this
topic
Cheers
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