Re: [LegacyUG] ? Something to do with Legacy

2007-10-18 Thread agh3rd
There will be no announcement of the release date before the actual release. There WILL be an announcement that it HAS been released and how to obtain it. -Original Message- From: Valerie Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 4:49

Re: Www - Re: snotty e-mails was:[LegacyUG] Legacy Too Complicated???

2007-10-18 Thread agh3rd
The problem is that the files Valerie was asking about were not about Legacy and its add on programs! To me it sounds as if Valerie is very new to computers in general and is poking around on hers and then asking questions about anything she doesn't understand- and there is nothing wrong with

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy List Problems

2007-10-14 Thread agh3rd
I look at it this way. If I can't read every message daily of a list I subscribe to then I have no business subscribing in the first place. I can always use the archives to search if I have a specific question. This helps in two ways: 1) It reduces the load on the list 2) It helps me improve my

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy List Problems

2007-10-14 Thread agh3rd
I've never had to search for that particular item but If I were searching with google I'd try the following in the search box: July -July 1 -July 2 -July 3 I haven't tried this but in theory it should work. While this won't entirely eliminate the month of July it should eliminate July

Re: [LegacyUG] Surname meanings or derivations

2007-10-14 Thread agh3rd
Chris, While this sounds good in theory there are several pitfalls to be aware of. Unless you have traced those males beck to a time period before surnames were used there is no way to tell what the history, meaning, and derivation really are. Surnames arose in different places at different

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing sources from a source..

2007-10-13 Thread agh3rd
Enter source as source citing source of source. That makes it clear what source you are using and what source your source used. -Original Message- From: Jess M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:58 pm Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

Re: [LegacyUG] Book printing orientation

2007-10-13 Thread agh3rd
Err.. I've never seen a book with two different size pages in it. I'd consider it strange if the orientation *didn't* affect the whole book. Maybe a custom paper size of 11 x 11... then orientation wouldn't matter G -Original Message- From: Dan Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [LegacyUG] Question on Sourcing Help

2007-10-11 Thread agh3rd
Source and mention ANY info you find on anyone in your line. It may be of little interest to anyone now but at some point in the future someone will wish you had. How many of us complain about not having info on their ancestors? Don't let future decendants do the same about you AND your

Re: [LegacyUG] same sex relationships

2007-10-07 Thread agh3rd
It is not a question of legacy respecting the traditionall family. It is, rather, a question of Legacy dis-respecting the non-traditional family. The traditional family doesn't even represent a majority of families in the USA anymore - just check the latest reports on composition of US

Re: [LegacyUG] Children out of Wedlock

2007-10-07 Thread agh3rd
The term used today by most is natural. She had a natural child by Mr.X Lothario is a good word to use for your GGG uncle, or Don Juan, or Casanova. -Original Message- From: Allen Prunty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 6:29 pm

Re: [LegacyUG] another sticky problem that will arise

2007-10-07 Thread agh3rd
Allen, While there are several countries that have laws against using government funds on cloning I think you'lll find far fewer that actually have laws making it completely illegal. -Original Message- From: Allen Prunty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Re: [LegacyUG] GEDSplit

2007-10-06 Thread agh3rd
Randy is with Ancestry- programs the gedcom and tree area I think. He can be found on their message boards. -Original Message- From: John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 3:56 pm Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDSplit I found copies of

Re: [LegacyUG] Please take it off list

2007-10-06 Thread agh3rd
Paul, try not to pre-judge it. The learning curve can be as easy or as difficult as one wishes to make it, depending primarily on how and how many of the advanced features one uses. It isn't so much can I do but rather which way should I The customization and flexibility of the

Re: [LegacyUG] Is Anybody There?... same sex relationships

2007-10-05 Thread agh3rd
Mike, Then I am a fourth group. I do NOT believe same-sex relationships are an abomination but DO believe that they should not be shown in a genealogical presentation ( as opposed to a family History presentation). There is nothing wrong with doing family history, as long as you realize

Re: [LegacyUG] Is Anybody There?... same sex relationships

2007-10-05 Thread agh3rd
Unless you are wiling to maintain two separate databases you cannot, at the same time, show an adopted child in a descendant report or chart and also not show an adopted child in a descendancy report or chart. If you believe that non blood-related individuals should be shown in ancestor

Re: [LegacyUG] Is Anybody There?... same sex relationships

2007-10-05 Thread agh3rd
Sara, Note I said nothing about entering non blood-related people into your software, be it spouses, adoptees, or whatever. It is how you treat them after they are entered that makes the difference between a genealogist and a family historian. My point is that non blood-related individuals

Re: [LegacyUG] Is Anybody There?... same sex relationships

2007-10-05 Thread agh3rd
Sara, I've taken this off list. I know you aren't being argumentative and that it is a serious subject that needs dealing with. I really have no idea what such charts and reports should be called, I only know that they should not be called ancestror/descendant charts and reports. Actually,

Re: [LegacyUG] statistical reports

2007-10-02 Thread agh3rd
The quick and easy way to do this is: !) Download TMG 6.12 Trial version 2) Export a gedcom of the people needed from Legacy. 3) Import Legacy Gedcom into a new TMG project. 4) Run TMG statical Report. Nothing wrong with using different programs to get what you need! *GRIN* -Original

Re: [LegacyUG] statistical reports

2007-10-02 Thread agh3rd
Open Office is a suit of OpenSource Office software comparable to Microsoft Office- and it is free. It containd a word processor, spreadsheet, database, graphics, etc. Google Open Office and you'll get tons of info. -Original Message- From: Jess M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

2007-09-26 Thread agh3rd
I do, although I may not have them all print in a repost. To paraphrase a Grand Dame of Society... You can never be too rich or too- or have too many sources *GRIN* -Original Message- From: June [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 9:05

Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this)

2007-09-25 Thread agh3rd
In reality the only time correctness comes into the source questions is if one is doing a work for a particular publication that has a requirement that sources must be in a certain format. Other than that it is pretty much roll your own with respect to how they are entered and formatted. There

Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List - Surety

2007-09-25 Thread agh3rd
Sureties are- imho- really only for those who maintain the database and not for those who read our work. They are so subjective as to convey no information to anyone except the person who determines the surety level. Your almost certain may be my iffy but possible. All conclusions about

Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use of brackets?

2007-09-24 Thread agh3rd
Hi Pat, There is indeed a way to handle it... don't make assumptions. *grin* If you do make them never enter them as anything other than a note and explain why you made the assumption. If the info is iffy then never entey it in source, place, event, etc. Now granted, this will lead to a lot

Re: [LegacyUG] Just Clarifying - Publication and Repository

2007-09-22 Thread agh3rd
My best advice on sources is to download the trial version of The Master Genealogist v6.12 and make copies of their source templates. I've found them a wonderful guide to organizing sources. I just copied them off and made a mini-manual that I keep on my desk. -Original Message-

Re: [LegacyUG] Just Clarifying - Publication and Repository -- templates

2007-09-22 Thread agh3rd
The Trial version of TMG v6.12 can be found at : http://www.whollygenes.com/ I should note that I have no connection with the company other than a satisfied user. -Original Message- From: Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sat, 22 Sep 2007

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-21 Thread agh3rd
The reality is that there is no law which prohibits a royal from adopting. If Crown Princess Victoria decided to adopt and never married then on her death her sister and not her adopted child would become monarch. My point was that a sweeping over-generalization was made and needed to be

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-21 Thread agh3rd
None to my knowledge; but just what does that prove? It certainly doesn't prove that they *can't* adopt. One exception, while not european and not an heir, was Maximilian of Mexico who did have an adoptee as his heir Several Noble families - the Biron von Curtlands for one, and one branch of

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-21 Thread agh3rd
Anne, They may well be treated the same but the statement that said the law *requires* ALL adoptees be treated the same was in error-period. Even the poster has admitted it was in error. -Original Message- From: Anne Hildrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-21 Thread agh3rd
Sara, With regard to the US adoptions, I believe it to be as you have stated. -Original Message- From: Sara Binkley Tarpley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 7:38 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother I want to

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-20 Thread agh3rd
You'll note that I never used the term English Law... however- There are three specific instances under British law that required different treatment of adoptees from biological children. 1) No adoptee can ever inherit the crown 2) No adoptee can ever inherit a Title or Peerage 3) No adoptee

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-20 Thread agh3rd
Easy- No adoptee can ever inherit the crown. If that isn't treating adoptees different from biological children I don't know what is. -Original Message- From: Anne Hildrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 8:57 am Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-20 Thread agh3rd
Thanks John, There have also been one or two that specified a brother of the original Grantee as the default heir in case there was no heir of the body... but there has never been one that specified an adoptee. Peerages and Titles are all about bloodlines and have nothing to do with social

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-19 Thread agh3rd
Why should the use of genealogically correct terms hurt anyone?? Unless, of course, people have been brought up tand taught to believe that calling a relationship adoptive is somehow demeaning to those involved in the relationship. If that is the case then it is those who taught such a meaning

Re: [LegacyUG] 2-generation descendant report with spouses

2007-09-19 Thread agh3rd
HUH?? Care to rephrase that? First you say their children and all spouses and then say NO children -Original Message- From: Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUG LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 9:00 pm Subject: [LegacyUG] 2-generation descendant

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-19 Thread agh3rd
My point is *why* is it a sensitive subject at all...unless one has been taught that it is something to be sensitive about? -Original Message- From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 9:28 am Subject: RE: [LegacyUG]

Re: [LegacyUG] 2-generation descendant report with spouses

2007-09-19 Thread agh3rd
If that is what they meant then they want a 1 generation descendant report (i.e. first generation descendants and spouses of those descendants) of the proginator couple. -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wed, 19

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-18 Thread agh3rd
Actually, the wording needs to be changed to This couple had no descendants. Then a note added about the adopted child would suffice. -Original Message- From: Sara Binkley Tarpley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 3:35 pm Subject: Re:

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-18 Thread agh3rd
There is no way that the couple should be regarded as grandparents of the offspring of the adopted child-period. They should be regarded as the adoptive grandparents. I've said it once and I'll say it again... family historians need to get their own terms for non-biological relationships and

Re: [LegacyUG] Hijacking subject Re: Gedcom Export

2007-09-16 Thread agh3rd
Whoever came up with the idea of allowing HTML coding in E-Mail should be shot-period! A worthless waste of bandwidth and resources. -- The Verminator -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 4:19 am Subject:

Re: [LegacyUG] Still another question

2007-09-15 Thread agh3rd
What did you name it? Just search your hard drive for *.ged (without quotes) and you will get a list of all gedcoms and what folder they are in. -Original Message- From: Tish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 6:44 pm Subject: [LegacyUG]

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Question

2007-09-09 Thread agh3rd
I usually don't add a person to my main database unless I have at least three unique sources for an event. -Original Message- From: Jim Keener [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 3:04 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Question Sorry, but

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Question

2007-09-09 Thread agh3rd
Leave them out of my data... no; but they go into my research database not my main database. I will mention in a memo in my main database that X and Y apparently have a child Z for which I have only a birth certificate but child Z will not be in the database as an individual.

Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Legacy: Family History or Genealogy? -TH

2007-09-08 Thread agh3rd
Not quite... while both sets of children from the previous marriages will be half siblings of the issue of the second marriage they will not be related by blood to each other. -Original Message- From: marilyn E B [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sat, 8

Re: Legacy: Family History or Genealogy? - was Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

2007-09-08 Thread agh3rd
Darlene, Boible Thumping 101 is down the hall to the right. To paraphrase Jimmy Buffet... take your god and shove it. -Original Message- From: Darlene Don Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Evan Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 8:39

Re: Legacy: Family History or Genealogy? - was Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

2007-09-07 Thread agh3rd
Not a discussion- just a comment. Any genealogical/family historian program offered to the general public should not be biased toward or against any one particular culture or religion. Since in some contries and at least one state homosexuals can legally marry and are thus LEGAL spouses such

Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Legacy: Family History or Genealogy?

2007-09-07 Thread agh3rd
I hope I'm wrong but it seems to me that Legacy may be going down the same road Ultimate Fasmily Tree went down. -Original Message- From: Ron Bernier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 6:53 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Legacy: Family

Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Legacy: Family History or Genealogy? -TH

2007-09-07 Thread agh3rd
Just one quibble with the first sentence... blood relationships do *not* include step; that is a social relationship having nothing to do with blood. -Original Message- From: Alice Hawrilenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 9:32 pm

Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

2007-09-05 Thread agh3rd
Exactly- as in one state they ARE legally recognized spouses -Original Message- From: TH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 9:13 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries Legacy ought to get with it, as should other genealogy

[LegacyUG] A suggestion

2007-08-29 Thread agh3rd
Change the links added to each message from: Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical

Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... )

2007-08-27 Thread agh3rd
Just how do you filter out non-english messages?? -Original Message- From: John S. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:01 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multimedia Backup (was Keeping two databases ... ) i only receive messages in

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread agh3rd
Hmmm sounds like TMG in drag! *Grin* -Original Message- From: Geoff Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 5:34 pm Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills Without giving away too much, the