Re: ENB: Simple design principles for style sheets

2018-03-10 Thread Thomas Passin
I just went through a really painful experience when I adopted a dark theme. The existing ones that are in leoSettings were unusable, because too many of the syntax colors were unreadable against the dark background. I've gotten it working more or less to my satisfaction (there's one color th

Re: ENB: Simple design principles for style sheets

2018-03-10 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 1:18:38 PM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 06:58:42 -0800 (PST) > Thomas Passin > wrote: > > in 5.7, LeoSettings has (at least) four dark themes: "base dark", "windows ekr dark", "leo_dark theme 1&

Re: ENB: Simple design principles for style sheets

2018-03-10 Thread Thomas Passin
On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Thomas Passin > wrote: > >> I just went through a really painful experience when I adopted a dark >> theme. >> > > ​I agree with Terry, this is excellent feedback. Here are some ideas. > > *Color samples directly in Leo* > &g

Re: The design of Leo+Ipython+Jupyter+Lit-computing

2018-03-10 Thread Thomas Passin
If I could step in here some months later, and move to a higher level of conversation, I think that there are several levels of engagement with Jupyter that we could contemplate. For example, we could display a notebook, graphics output and all, in a separate pane. ViewRendered does that pret

Re: Atom might be Leo's future

2018-03-10 Thread Thomas Passin
It seems to me that many python-based systems could be run in a Leo process, which would give access to their internal APIs. The challenge would be to get their input and output into Leo cells. For non-python systems, in some cases there could be a python wrapper that handles communication (

Using Holoview in @Jupyter Nodes

2018-03-10 Thread Thomas Passin
I have been playing with Holoview, which may be a good system for graphing and plotting, as a replacement fro pyplot. It uses more declarative and less procedural progamming, which is usually a good thing. It already integrates with Jupyter Notebook, and so I decided to see if the ViewRender

Re: The design of Leo+Ipython+Jupyter+Lit-computing

2018-03-10 Thread Thomas Passin
; On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 17:41:47 -0800 (PST) > Thomas Passin > wrote: > > > If I could step in here some months later, and move to a higher level > > of conversation, I think that there are several levels of engagement > > with Jupyter that we could contemplate. >

Re: Using Holoview in @Jupyter Nodes

2018-03-11 Thread Thomas Passin
s I can think of until one of them works. Just as a reminder, this is using VR, *not* VR2. On Sunday, March 11, 2018 at 8:35:06 AM UTC-4, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 8:26:21 PM UTC-6, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > Run the code in Jupyter Notebook. Let it finis

Re: ENB: Simple design principles for style sheets

2018-03-11 Thread Thomas Passin
I didn't have too much trouble finding color constants per se. I would do a web search for, say, "color #553399", and that would show me the color. There are also on-line color pickers. But colors look different depending on their surroundings, and I had to do a lot of trial and error to hit

Re: The design of Leo+Ipython+Jupyter+Lit-computing

2018-03-11 Thread Thomas Passin
I haven't worked on anything much in-browser since before html5 came out. So I didn't know anything about "~=", for example. Even then I tried to only work with the simpler constructs (both javascript and css), so I probably wouldn't have used that particular construct anyway. On Saturday, Ma

Re: ENB: Simple design principles for style sheets

2018-03-12 Thread Thomas Passin
or, if your app settings on Windows are working right, just os.system(r"start C:\path_to_outline\test.leo") This way, the starting console closes immediately. True, you have to edit the @command ...@key contents if you want to open some other outline (workbook.leo might be a good place for t

Re: The design of Leo+Ipython+Jupyter+Lit-computing

2018-03-12 Thread Thomas Passin
claratives ... On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 9:46:12 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Do you happen to know if it's feasible to use QML widgets in Leo? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe

Re: Syntax colorizer change for html

2018-03-31 Thread Thomas Passin
I've also had a lot of problems adjusting colors in themes. One thing I discovered is that the presence of the node with headline "@data qt-gui-plugin-style-sheet" has font and color settings that make the desired changes when none of the other settings - the ones that are supposed to work - h

Re: Soon! valuespace and jupyter

2018-03-31 Thread Thomas Passin
I think we can go one better ... that is, to be able to put Leo organizer nodes between Jupyter nodes. The organizer nodes could contain Markdown, Rst, @file or @clean trees, or what have you. That would give us the ability to further annotate or adapt jupyter nodes beyond what their authors

Re: ENB: Prototyping themes without changing code

2018-03-31 Thread Thomas Passin
Even easier: Turn the @settings node headline into @@settings. Now there are no settings to load. You can even start a new, clean @settings tree, all without renaming the file. On Saturday, March 17, 2018 at 8:07:55 PM UTC-4, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > > *Part 2: Disable myLeoSettings.leo*E

Re: A study outline containing eric6 docs

2018-04-01 Thread Thomas Passin
I think there is a copyright issue with publishing this information in another form besides the original pdf. The doc is marked Copyright ©2007-2017 Detlev Offenbach I didn't see that it is allowed to be freely copied. On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 7:56:25 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote

Re: Rendering math in Leo

2018-06-10 Thread Thomas Passin
To contribute to this thread after many months: Actually, python-markdown does support math via mathjax, if you install mdx_math and use it as one of the extensions. mdx_math is just a python file - you can install it using pip - so it will work on any python installation. To use it in viewre

Re: Import freemind files into leo

2018-06-22 Thread Thomas Passin
Good move, since ElementTree is included in the standard Python distro (there was a time when it wasn't). On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 6:07:54 AM UTC-4, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:59 AM, Frederic Fichter > wrote: > > Looks like the freemind import is simply not avail

Re: How to retire --no-cache?

2018-06-27 Thread Thomas Passin
Despite what you say, I suggest keeping this option as a do-nothing option. No "fix" need ever be issued, or at least not until it is devised and convenient. Leo could print a deprecation message to the (error) console or log pane, or a message saying that caching is no longer used. Why brea

Math in viewrendered

2019-11-21 Thread Thomas Passin
Math doesn't show up in viewrendered for either @rst or @md nodes. There's a setting for vr-math-output = mathjax, but the mathjax isn't rendering for me. The obsolete viewrendered2 was able to show math for @rst nodes, so it must be feasible. What has to be configured to show math symbols

Leo File Name Is Not Displayed In Title Bar

2019-11-23 Thread Thomas Passin
I just noticed that in my installation of Leo 6.1, the name of the current leo file is not displayed in the title bar of Leo's window. In previous versions (at least up to 5.9 - I skipped 6.0), it was. Is there a launch option or a setting that will get the file names displayed again? If not,

Re: Thomas Passin, does rev 028f4b (in devel) fix #1444 or #1445?

2019-12-10 Thread Thomas Passin
I just found that the problem went away when I deleted the Leo database directory. I added a comment to that effect in #1444. It must have something to do with the fact that I have used both Leo 5.9/python 2.7/QT4 and Leo 61/python 3.8/QT4 alternately. Somehow some things cached in the databa

Pyodide - Like Jython for Javascript With Jupyter-like Notebooks

2019-12-15 Thread Thomas Passin
I just stumbled onto Pyodide, and it's very impressive. It produces Jupyter-like notebooks in a browser. What's really amazing to me is that they have managed to get things so that python code can call javascript and javascript can call Python, all within a browser. They don't have every pos

Re: Pyodide - Like Jython for Javascript With Jupyter-like Notebooks

2019-12-16 Thread Thomas Passin
o, of course. I'm working an a QT5 version of Vewrendred2. It's about halfway there. On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:09:40 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:40 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > >> I just stumbled onto Pyodide,

Progress on ViewRendered2

2019-12-27 Thread Thomas Passin
I have made a lot of progress on re-implementing *Viewrendered2 *in the QT5 era, and I wanted to share where I am with it. To quickly summarize what VR2 added to *viewrendered *for @rst (Restructured Text) trees: - It can render an entire @rst tree, rather than a singe node. - It can expor

PDF output for RsT/Sphinx documents works again

2019-12-27 Thread Thomas Passin
With the change to Python 3+ for Leo, I found I couldn't build Sphinx documents to PDF, using rst2pdf. It only worked for Python 2.x, not 3.x. I've done some work on it, and I'm happy to say that I have had some success. First of all, the Github repo for rst2pdf has had some updates since the

Re: Why is Script 'leo-m.exe' not available in Leo 6.1-final on PyPI?

2019-12-27 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, December 26, 2019 at 2:49:52 PM UTC-5, Matt Wilkie wrote: > > Why is the script 'leo-m.exe' available in the development-/ beta version >> of Leo (e.g. 6.1-b1-devel) but not in the master-/ final version of Leo >> (e.g. 6.1-final) at PyPI? >> > > It's because master lags behind dev

Re: Progress on ViewRendered2

2020-01-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:35:04 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > I have made a lot of progress on re-implementing *Viewrendered2 *in the > QT5 era, and I wanted to share where I am with it. > Here's the new work as of today: - I completely re-implemented the code th

Re: HOWTO: Display reStructuredText with stylesheets using the Viewrendered2 plugin

2020-01-06 Thread Thomas Passin
Five years later, I have a suggestion about these stylesheet problems. You can get pygments to generate a stylesheet for you. There are various styles, and I just used the one named "default": pygmentize -S default -f html > pygments.css (pygmentize gets installed with "pip install pygments")

Re: Leo and the Best of the Rest

2020-01-11 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 5:35:22 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > ... > Iirc, my conclusion is that a more rigid tree view has advantages over > graphical views. > > Having said that, Leo got its start because I had trouble understanding > complex programs isn't easy. Just yesterday I

Re: Progress on ViewRendered2

2020-01-13 Thread Thomas Passin
I'm happy to say that the new viewrendered3 plugin now has everything working that I wanted for the first phase. An entire tree can be displayed (instead of just a single node). The viewing pane can display only the code blocks if desired. Code in a node or tree can be executed and the outpu

Re: Leo and the Best of the Rest

2020-01-13 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 11:48:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > >> Neither words, words, words, nor outlines, nor pretty graphs seem like >> the solution. Hmm. What else is there, except for experience? Ah, I'm >> forgetting How-To's. That&#x

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-25 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 8:45:08 PM UTC-5, Chris George wrote: > > > Using clones you can create whatever organizational scheme you like. Add > in a couple of plugins, like bookmarks, tags, and backlinks, and that > ability explodes. > > One Leo feature for organization that I use a lot

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-26 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 5:18:17 PM UTC-5, Matt Wilkie wrote: > > > [later] After reading http://leoeditor.com/slides/plugins.html#unl-py I > see there is also @url for use in headlines. It's smart enough to open a > specific node, not just the file > > @url > D:/code/studies/study-sho

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-29 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 10:45:58 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > Many thanks to all. I've only just now got back to this thread and > gratified to see tips have kept coming in. It will take me awhile to check > all these out but it looks good indeed. > > I also want to put in a plug he

Re: So how do you arrange panes now?

2020-01-29 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 6:16:14 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 3:00 PM 'tfer' via leo-editor < > leo-e...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > > Used to be a "Toggle split direction" command that would let have two > columns, outline and log on the Left, body on the

Re: Using Vitalije's code patterns

2020-01-29 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 7:58:41 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > While working on leoAst.py, I have come to understand more fully several > of Vitalije's suggested code patterns: > > *Prefer functions to classes/methods* > > Classes and methods are essential in python. They aren't goin

Re: Using Vitalije's code patterns

2020-01-29 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 12:10:50 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > Class B: > func2(self, parms) = A.func1 > Oops, I meant to write Class B: func2 = A.func1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor&qu

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-30 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 7:23:11 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:35 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > > I put a lot of time some years ago looking into how to get the most out of >> my browser bookmarks, and I arrived at some of the sam

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-30 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 7:23:11 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > ... > This page > > > lists lists principles of Zettlekasten. The "unique home" principle might

Re: So how do you arrange panes now?

2020-01-30 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 12:26:59 AM UTC-5, tfer wrote: > > Thanks Edward and Tom, I'll have to check these out. Anyone using Leo with > Windows !0 virtual desktops > Yes, every day. It works fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-ed

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-30 Thread Thomas Passin
minimal hand effort if possible. I think only a couple of these will import, which is one reason I turned to > Leo, besides that I think Leo's capabilities for this kind of thing are > probably more robust, just need to be wrapped together in a neat package. > But what do I kno

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-31 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 4:54:50 AM UTC-5, vitalije wrote: > > There is one program that I immediately thought of after reading a few > pages about Zettelkasten: fossil and its wiki > feature. It is a single executable (a rather small one ~ 2-3Mb), that can > wor

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-31 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 9:26:31 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > With a set of text (including say Markdown) files, one can fall back to > full text searches if no other system ends up working well enough. Or even > to keeping a paper Zettel-box that refers to th

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-31 Thread Thomas Passin
As I think about how Leo could be useful with the zettel-box approach, I do see a way. But it's not to have each note be a node in a Leo outline. Can you imagine trying to work with thousands or tens of thousands of nodes in the outline pane? Instead, I can see using an @zettel tree whereby

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 6:48:32 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:40 AM Thomas Passin > wrote: > >> >> Can you imagine trying to work with thousands or tens of thousands of >> nodes in the outline pane? >> &g

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 6:06:33 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > Sure wish I were a programmer. Sometimes I've thought maybe I should dive > into programming just to gain the skills to build this myself, but I think > that's likely way too ambitious, especially at my age. > But if/when so

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 7:03:04 PM UTC-5, Matt Wilkie wrote: > > > In my opinion writing out an ideal interface (or more accurately: work, > process and interaction flows) are worth doing, if only to clarify for self > what is being sought. I've found it valuable for myself at any rate.

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 10:36:59 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > Thomas, sorry for my ignorance but what do I need to do to view your HTML > file rendered? I can dig out the text as is, but rendering it would make > it a lot easier. I'm not HTML literate. > Do you see that there is a l

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 5:25:45 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > Length is not your friend in convincing others. > Length can be unavoidable, when there are many interacting parts. But each of those parts is better when compact. But there's an art here - too terse can be be hard

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
Here's something interesting. Remember the Memex, described by Vannebar Bush in 1945? It sounded like a mixture of the Web and a zettelkasten, with better media input means than perhaps we have today. Well, someone is trying to actually build one, or at least something as close as he can get

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
I have put the HTML file on my server at http://tompassin.net/pub/zettel/zettel_requirements.html You can just open it in your browser at that address. On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 8:04:06 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 10:36:59 PM UTC-5, andy

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 9:43:17 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Here's something interesting. Remember the Memex, described by Vannebar > Bush in 1945? It sounded like a mixture of the Web and a zettelkasten, > with better media input means than perhaps we

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
Here's another potentially useful paper - http://people.csail.mit.edu/msbernst/papers/p337-vankleek.pdf The actual software project is now defunct, but we might get some ideas from it. On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 9:43:17 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Here's somet

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
I'm not up on the current books, but here's a possible starting point - https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide One thing to keep in mind. There are two series of Python - 2.x and 3.x. They are basically very similar but have a few differences. Even though 3.xx has been the main release

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 6:41:00 PM UTC-5, stevelitt wrote: > > > > Length can be unavoidable, when there are many interacting parts. > > That's when you need a diagram. > Right. What a pain that we can't have diagrams in an ordinary text file. Grrr. Although the Viewrendered3 plugi

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-05 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 4:00:08 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:01 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > >> I'm not up on the current books, but here's a possible starting point - >> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 10:30:26 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > Thomas, tell me if this is an inappropriate suggestion, but I wonder if > this thread has pretty much played out its level of pertinence and interest > to the Leo community, since it's not directly about Leo and may be on

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
Andy, thanks for your comments. I will give my reaction to them in a series of posts, one per item. On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 9:52:45 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > I'm attaching my responses to the requirements you wrote, Thomas I'm > thrilled there is more interest here than I had thoug

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 4]

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 10:59:37 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Andy, thanks for your comments. I will give my reaction to them in a > series of posts, one per item. > Continuing my reactions to your comments - 4. Unique Identification @andyjim: "I propose YYMM

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:18:39 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 10:59:37 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> Andy, thanks for your comments. I will give my reaction to them in a >> series of posts, one per item.

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 10]

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:18:39 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 10:59:37 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> Andy, thanks for your comments. I will give my reaction to them in a >> series of posts, one per item.

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:04:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > attached is my first draft for a zettel format. > Thanks. Here's my first cut at a format. It's designed to be easy to type and easy to read. All the keyword data items are optional. I can tell you that it will be alm

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Experimental Markdown format for a zettel]

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 12:00:43 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:04:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: >> >> attached is my first draft for a zettel format. >> > > Thanks. Here's my first cut at a format.

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Experimental Restructuered Text format for a zettel]

2020-02-07 Thread Thomas Passin
> On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 12:00:43 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:04:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: >>> >>> attached is my first draft for a zettel format. >>> >> >> Thanks.

Goals for Viewrendered3

2020-02-07 Thread Thomas Passin
Viewrendered3 is finally close to preliminary release, after I got diverted by a few red herrings. As I clean up the anomalies I know about, please look over the attached set of goals for the project. I don't want to seriously enlarge the scope at this time, but if anyone thinks that somethin

Re: Goals for Viewrendered3

2020-02-08 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 4:35:37 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 1:56 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > >> One thing that is still up in the air for me is the relationship between >> *viewrendered >> *and *vr3* >> > > I

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 4]

2020-02-08 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 2:15:42 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > Seems this issue needs a lot of thought. Niklas Luhmann's zettels had > numerical ID numbers, without textual clues as to their content. And it > was a paper system. And he certainly didn't work by remembering filenames >

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-10 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 11:41:38 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > Speaking for myself, with my use case, where the system is for thoughts, I > want as little clutter and distraction as possible, which is the main > reason I’ve never even used markdown. When I’m thinking and writing my > t

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-11 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 9:54:53 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > Anybody know how to recover old MS Word 2003 files where I've lost the > password? > *Maybe* ... These are some solutions out there to be found through an internet query. A few of them look relatively simple. How practical

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 11:55:38 AM UTC-5, stevelitt wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:36:36 -0800 (PST) > andyjim > wrote: > > > > My thought is to arrange all this in external plain text files > > initially, with the outline organization being in Leo, leaving the > > files external

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 7:56:31 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 10:55:38 AM UTC-6, stevelitt wrote: > > So you could have a hotkey with the command "inkscape myimage.svg", >> another one "libreoffice mybook.odt", and another one "leo >> my_trip_pl

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 8:36:01 PM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 3:24 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > > > @ekr, are the identifiers for Leo nodes globally unique, or only within > an outline? > > gnx's (*global*

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 9:54:53 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: Maybe it's as simple as entering my UID manually when I prep a file for the > parser, though in that case I would not be using the full YYMMDDHHMMSS > format, probably just YYMMDDxx, since date will be the finest granularity > a

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 10:58:01 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > A node for each zettel? Thousands of them? > Well, yes, that's what I've been been envisioning. Having thousands of them - whether they are represented as Leo nodes or some other way - will require us to be smart at comi

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 7:50:56 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:08 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > > > Using Leo, and making each note be a separate node, we can get just > that kind of ID for free. > > Not "kinda" for f

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
Ha! After seeing references to uAs over and over, I finally learn what they are. On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 7:42:09 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:28 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > > And - maybe this is weird - would there be any problem ad

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 9:28:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > I have written an initial set of user requirements (attached), and I would > appreciate your thoughts on them. These are very high level requirements, > and they don't include any actual user inter

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > One thing I wish I understood better is the acyclic graph model, how that > plays out in Leo and what it accomplishes for us in organization/linking. > It's not too hard to grasp the basics, @andyjim. A graph is a set of nod

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > And Thomas, perhaps I need to read your papers on semantic processing > (haven't done so yet), as it seems that's more or less what the > zettelkasten model offers (maybe the Leo model, in fact), and it appears > you are b

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-15 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:06:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > 3. Simple Section Demarkations > For distraction-free creative/productive activity I'd like to be able to > optionally see only the text body, or, (and maybe the following belongs > under Display) in a collection/stack of

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-15 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:06:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > 5. Hierarchical Navigation > The way I see this playing out for me: I will seek a minimal set of > 'highest level' or 'encompassing' headings, the least number under which I > can class everything. Every zettel must (event

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-15 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:06:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > 6. Link Navigation > And these links are (or can be) embedded in text, right? Do they, or can > they, also link directly to a specific place in the target note, or simply > to the note as a unit? Another way to say that: c

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-16 Thread Thomas Passin
On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 10:07:07 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 10:13:03 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >>> >>> 7. Time Stamp >>> agreed generally. I do want date of origin, and I would like

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-17 Thread Thomas Passin
g to write any new code. On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 4:16:38 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 11:08:54 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> Could you send me an example file? It you typed in a date, you probably >> did it in a

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-17 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 3:58:48 PM UTC-5, rengel wrote: > > Hi, I just stumbled upon this particular post, but didn't read the whole > thread. But from what I sense here, you are talking about problems that > have been solved by another product that has been dicussed cursorily > elsewh

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-17 Thread Thomas Passin
tware by the developer, so he has a lot of experience in getting right. Also, it's an open source project, hosted on GitHub - https://github.com/dvorka/mindforger On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 8:36:56 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 3:58

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-18 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 11:55:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > I just found the MindForger project. This actually looks like it might do > a lot of what we like, and very nicely. [snip] > In addition, it's a Markdown editor renders to a panel, and exports to

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-18 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 7:23:28 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > Definitely, Thomas, and thanks so much for your interest. What I recommend > as a starting point is to get one or more Zettelkasten programs yourself to > familiarize yourself with the concepts and also the sort of GUI that is

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-18 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:11:21 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 8:08:30 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> Sure, I understand. And I wasn't thinking about delineating the >> different pieces by date so much as aut

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-18 Thread Thomas Passin
@andyjim, let's go with your suggestion and continue this discussion on the thread "Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them". I think this thread has gotten just too long. See you there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group.

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-18 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:11:21 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 8:08:30 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >>> >>

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

2020-02-18 Thread Thomas Passin
Picking up in this thread - On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:11:21 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > It appears you are casting your net beyond Leo a bit too, in case there is > something out there that does almost all of what we want. Brain? > MindForge? Let me know what you find. I was unable

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-19 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:39:36 AM UTC-5, stevelitt wrote: > > > If you're taking notes, and you want the absolute fastest input to an > outline, VimOutliner's what you want. Several times I've taken > contemporaneous, well outlined and well organized notes while attending > meetings

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

2020-02-19 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 10:10:03 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > @Thomas I found the command that allows you to break zettels out of an > imported file. In the body you select the lines you want, hit > shift-Command-D and it splits your selection out into a new node (under the > parent

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

2020-02-19 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:20:59 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Picking up in this thread - > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 2:11:21 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > >> >> It appears you are casting your net beyond Leo a bit too, in case there >>

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

2020-02-20 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 9:37:43 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:35:05 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> >> I've been spending some time with my bookmark manager again, >> >> Thomas, is your bookmarks m

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

2020-02-20 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 9:56:45 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:19:33 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> Cool! That's one thing about Leo - it can do so many things, but it can >> be hard to discove

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

2020-02-20 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 9:37:43 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > >> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:35:05 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> > > 3. I *think* that by using

Re: Zettelkasten - Notes Jim but not as we know them.

2020-02-21 Thread Thomas Passin
effort. The process can be launched by another leo command or button. I'm stoked, let me tell you! On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 12:42:23 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 10:38:19 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> &g

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