[lfs-dev] Mailing list moves

2014-04-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, A bit of a long email ahead. Please do read. Important information ahead to give you a head's up on what to expect today. A quick note on memberships: I haven't found an easy way to maintain people's passwords and their digest enabled/disabled flag. I don't want to spend a great deal

Re: [lfs-dev] [blfs-dev] Mailinglist Migration

2014-04-25 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2014-04-25 14:16, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > On 2014-04-25 14:14, Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> This weekend I'm going to spend some time migrating the LFS mailinglists >> > I forgot to mention: the archives will be re-instated. New server > hosting allows 16 TB/month tran

Re: [lfs-dev] Mailinglist Migration

2014-04-25 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2014-04-25 14:14, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > This weekend I'm going to spend some time migrating the LFS mailinglists > I forgot to mention: the archives will be re-instated. New server hosting allows 16 TB/month transfer (old host only 100 GB/month which is why we took the archi

[lfs-dev] Mailinglist Migration

2014-04-25 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, This weekend I'm going to spend some time migrating the LFS mailinglists over to the new server. Along with the migration will be changes to the posting address and hostname for list management. All mailinglists will be moved over to @lists.linuxfromscratch.org instead of @linuxfromsc

[lfs-dev] Apologies - the unsubscribe notification is false

2014-04-25 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, If you just received an unsubscribe notification for this list, ignore it please and my apologies for it to begin with. This action took place as part of an import/export on the new server in preparation of moving things. You weren't actually unsubscribed -- I was just running some te

Re: [lfs-dev] [blfs-dev] Pending LFS Server Outage

2014-04-24 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2014-04-24 07:15, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > On 2014-04-23 15:53, Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> Hosting company (Linode) has changed price plans and how offers >> additional resources for same monthly cost. >> >> This upgrade for us includes: >> >> * RAM

Re: [lfs-dev] [blfs-dev] Pending LFS Server Outage

2014-04-24 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2014-04-23 15:53, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Hosting company (Linode) has changed price plans and how offers > additional resources for same monthly cost. > > This upgrade for us includes: > > * RAM from 8 GB to 16 GB > * Shared outgoing bandwidth from 250 Mbps to 2 Gbps >

[lfs-dev] Pending LFS Server Outage

2014-04-23 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hosting company (Linode) has changed price plans and how offers additional resources for same monthly cost. This upgrade for us includes: * RAM from 8 GB to 16 GB * Shared outgoing bandwidth from 250 Mbps to 2 Gbps I'll follow-up later with the plan of attack. Downtime will be a few hours so h

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Server Shutdown for Maintenance

2013-11-29 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-11-29 22:31, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > On 2013-11-27 21:54, Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm preparing to shut the (new) LFS server down for maintenance Friday >> evening to take advantage of a free upgrade to double our disk space to >> 384 GB

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Server Shutdown for Maintenance

2013-11-29 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-11-27 21:54, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Hi, > > I'm preparing to shut the (new) LFS server down for maintenance Friday > evening to take advantage of a free upgrade to double our disk space to > 384 GB. > > The upgrade requires a storage migration and

[lfs-dev] LFS Server Shutdown for Maintenance

2013-11-27 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi, I'm preparing to shut the (new) LFS server down for maintenance Friday evening to take advantage of a free upgrade to double our disk space to 384 GB. The upgrade requires a storage migration and estimates say it may take approximately three hours to complete. I plan to start this close to

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Server Outage Saturday 10:00 PM - 02:00 AM MST

2013-11-03 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-11-02 22:47, Gerard Beekmans wrote: On 2013-11-02 22:29, Gerard Beekmans wrote: I decided on an early shutdown. It's currently half an hour before actual planned shutdown. Going to reboot Quantum to see if it'll come back online as it should. If it does, then I won't b

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Server Outage Saturday 10:00 PM - 02:00 AM MST

2013-11-02 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-11-02 22:29, Gerard Beekmans wrote: I decided on an early shutdown. It's currently half an hour before actual planned shutdown. Going to reboot Quantum to see if it'll come back online as it should. If it does, then I won't be up at 3:00 AM local time to wait for it to c

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Server Outage Saturday 10:00 PM - 02:00 AM MST

2013-11-02 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-11-02 20:57, Gerard Beekmans wrote: started on it. Quantum has not been rebooted in a long time so we're not entirely sure how it'll behave on the first attempt. I decided on an early shutdown. It's currently half an hour before actual planned shutdown. Going to reboot

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Server Outage Saturday 10:00 PM - 02:00 AM MST

2013-11-02 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-11-01 14:27, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Hi guys, > > Quantum (old'ish server, the one running email) will be shutdown > tomorrow just prior to 10:00 PM MST. > > The datacentre it's hosted in is shutting down power for electrical > maintenance (new UPS among

[lfs-dev] LFS Server Outage Saturday 10:00 PM - 02:00 AM MST

2013-11-01 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, Quantum (old'ish server, the one running email) will be shutdown tomorrow just prior to 10:00 PM MST. The datacentre it's hosted in is shutting down power for electrical maintenance (new UPS among other things). Restart time is expected around 2:00 AM MST which means 3:00 my timezone.

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Server Upgrade

2013-06-04 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-06-05 00:03, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > On 2013-06-04 21:15, Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> Still planned to start around 9:00 PM PDT (approx two hours after >> sending this email). Gerard > Migration is well underway. If the transfer speed doesn't drop from its > curren

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Server Upgrade

2013-06-04 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-06-04 21:15, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Still planned to start around 9:00 PM PDT (approx two hours after > sending this email). Gerard Migration is well underway. If the transfer speed doesn't drop from its current 93 MB/sec this should be done in about an hour. Fingers cross

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Server Upgrade

2013-06-04 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-06-04 11:40, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > I'll send more info tonight when getting closer to pulling the trigger > on the upgrade. Still planned to start around 9:00 PM PDT (approx two hours after sending this email). Gerard -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Server Upgrade

2013-06-04 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-05-22 12:30, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Stay tuned for more details coming soon. > I had to leave town on business and did not have enough time while away to take care of this so it's come down to the wire. The maintenance window is happening tomorrow starting at 8:00 PM PD

[lfs-dev] Fwd: Re: [blfs-dev] LFS Server Upgrade

2013-05-22 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Original Message Subject:Re: [blfs-dev] LFS Server Upgrade Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 15:47:49 -0500 From: Gerard Beekmans Reply-To: BLFS Development List To: BLFS Development List CC: Bruce Dubbs On 2013-05-22 12:48, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Stay

[lfs-dev] LFS Server Upgrade

2013-05-22 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, The hosting company where the new server is located is going through a round of upgrades including physical hardware relocation to their new facility. This means our server will need to be powered down for a while (estimated two hours or less but their total maintenance window is 8 hou

[lfs-dev] DistroWatch donation to LFS

2013-03-04 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, If you haven't already read this posting yet (it was also referred to in a blfs-dev post today): http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20130304#donation I spoke with Ladislav (the founder of that site) to get some more details on what prompted all this and, well, the write up there e

Re: [blfs-dev] Shutting Trac down for move

2013-02-27 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-02-27 10:23, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > I'm making the final DNS change to move Trac to the new server. It will > be offline for about half an hour or so while I wait for DNS to propagate. > > Gerard Move completed and tested. All seems well. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: [lfs-dev] Shutting Trac down for move

2013-02-27 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-02-27 10:23, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > I'm making the final DNS change to move Trac to the new server. It will > be offline for about half an hour or so while I wait for DNS to propagate. > > Gerard Move completed and tested. All seems well. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

[lfs-dev] Shutting Trac down for move

2013-02-27 Thread Gerard Beekmans
I'm making the final DNS change to move Trac to the new server. It will be offline for about half an hour or so while I wait for DNS to propagate. Gerard -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [lfs-dev] higgs and the book list

2013-01-23 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-01-23 10:56, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: >> Just checked I can access LFS on svn. r10101 and r10102 to add a >> testfile and then delete it. Seemed fine, but I got two mails like >> this - guess I'd better hold off testing that BLFS still works. >> >> ĸen >> >> Date: Wed, 23 Ja

Re: [lfs-dev] SVN and Trac freeze

2013-01-23 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-01-23 00:03, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Gerard Beekmans wrote: >>> I am continuing the final testing and migration into the morning after >>> taking a break for the night. >>> >>> I've taken the latest backup files so please don't make changes. I

Re: [lfs-dev] SVN and Trac freeze

2013-01-22 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> I am continuing the final testing and migration into the morning after > taking a break for the night. > > I've taken the latest backup files so please don't make changes. I may > not end up syncing them to the new server as the data I have right now > is properly cleaned up and converted for the

Re: [lfs-dev] SVN and Trac freeze

2013-01-21 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-01-21 15:13, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'd like to call a freeze to SVN and Trac for all LFS related activities > (LFS, BLFS and everything else). I plan to finish its migration to the > new server between late tonight and tomorrow morning depending when &

[lfs-dev] SVN and Trac freeze

2013-01-21 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, I'd like to call a freeze to SVN and Trac for all LFS related activities (LFS, BLFS and everything else). I plan to finish its migration to the new server between late tonight and tomorrow morning depending when activity ceases (ie. when you guys have had a chance to read this email).

Re: [lfs-dev] Migrating websites

2013-01-08 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-01-08 09:27, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm going to start the process of moving over the websites now. I have > disabled all cron jobs that render books and update the website in some > way. These will remain disabled until everything is done which may b

[lfs-dev] Migrating websites

2013-01-08 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, I'm going to start the process of moving over the websites now. I have disabled all cron jobs that render books and update the website in some way. These will remain disabled until everything is done which may be longer than just today. Gerard -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/l

[lfs-dev] Server Migration - websites, home directories, trac, svn and related

2013-01-07 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, The next major portion of migration will involve the websites and home directories of active users. I have done an initial rsync already to make the final cut-over as fast as possible. Due to the fact all this is happening in spare time I can't give an exact time nor can I give a lot

[lfs-dev] Server's User Account Cleanup

2013-01-06 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, I'm starting the process of backing up and removing old user accounts that have been deemed inactive. Now there is a slight chance too many accounts are being affected. We've based our list on last known and seen activity (roughly one year if we don't know for sure). Backups are taken

Re: [lfs-dev] Temporary wget block

2013-01-04 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2013-01-01 13:21, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Hi guys, > > After reviewing logs I ended up having to block the wget user agent in > Apache for the time being. Pages such as > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/stable/ are causing issues > with wget. > The block ha

[lfs-dev] LFS website redirected

2013-01-03 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, www.linuxfromscratch.org has temporarily been redirected to lfsbook.linuxfromscratch.org to help facilitate in the sever migration. lfsbook is hosted on Anduin (by way of Bruce). Gerard -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ U

Re: [lfs-dev] Temporary wget block

2013-01-01 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Nope, that page is served out by Apache using its autoindex module. > > Gerard, we could just configure Apache to use > 'SuppressColumnSorting' > (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_autoindex.html#indexoptions) - it > won't stop bots from downloading masses of data if that's what they're

Re: [lfs-dev] Temporary wget block

2013-01-01 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Is this something we can change in the future, somewhere in the xml, > or is it another of those "we miss Manuel" moments ? > > For the content of that page, I have difficulty understanding what > use the alternate orders provide - there are only six links plus the > parent directory, and for

Re: [lfs-dev] Temporary wget block

2013-01-01 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Would an appropriate /robots.txt help things out? > Doesn't look like it. The "guilty" hosts never attempted to download robots.txt files. Bots like Google do request those files and behave properly but those aren't the ones causing issues or dowloading duplicate files. Nor do they show up as

[lfs-dev] Temporary wget block

2013-01-01 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, After reviewing logs I ended up having to block the wget user agent in Apache for the time being. Pages such as http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/stable/ are causing issues with wget. The name, last modified, size and description headers are clickable links to change the

Re: [lfs-dev] Pipermail

2012-12-31 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 2012-12-31 11:29, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > BLFS Trac wrote: > >>Also, someone broke pipermail ... >> > Unfortunately that was done on purpose. Gerard had 500 GB over his > normal download limit last month and got hit with a huge change. Most > of it seemed to be downloading all of pipermail by

[lfs-dev] Happy 13th

2012-12-18 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hey guys, 13 years ago LFS 1.0 was released (Dec 16, 1999). Still continuing on today. Reading an old article from 3 years ago (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10413589-16.html) sparked this email. The first sentence in that article reads "Quick, what were you doing on December 9, 1999? If

Re: [lfs-dev] Andy Benton

2012-08-01 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 31/07/2012 16:25, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > With great sadness, I have to report the passing of Andy Benton. > > I never had the opportunity to meet Andy in person, but after several > thousand posts to the lists, I think I knew him. His first post was in > March 2004. Since that time he made many,

Re: [lfs-dev] Server outage tonight and tomorrow night

2012-03-01 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 29/02/2012 12:45, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > Hi guys, > > I completely forgot to send along this notification sooner. My apologies. > > The LFS server will be powered off tonight around 11:00 PM CST until > 4:00 AM CST and again tomorrow during the same window. The data centre

[lfs-dev] Server outage tonight and tomorrow night

2012-02-29 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, I completely forgot to send along this notification sooner. My apologies. The LFS server will be powered off tonight around 11:00 PM CST until 4:00 AM CST and again tomorrow during the same window. The data centre we're colocated with is shutting down power to upgrade electrical grids

Re: [lfs-dev] fedora

2012-02-02 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 02/02/2012 15:25, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I have another reason to dislike fedora. I wanted to look at what > environment variables were used and did a simple 'set' command. I got a > bunch of garbage. Upon investigating, I got about 70 lines of > variables and about 9600! lines of functions th

Re: [lfs-dev] Latest Changes

2012-02-02 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 02/02/2012 03:44, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I built LFS tonight on a kvm VM. Here are a couple of comments: > > The total build time was 6.3 hours. The last build (LFS 7.0) on the > same machine, but on the HW was 4.1 hours. That's a 50% increase in > time. I'm not sure why. First thing I person

Re: [lfs-dev] No IRC on the new server

2012-01-31 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> What's the delay of migration? Will we have some warning before > definitive process? To inform users (especially IRC)? I'd say a month at the very least before I'd even think of turning the current/old server off. I first need to get the new server up and ready. It was pre-loaded with a Cent

Re: [lfs-dev] No IRC on the new server

2012-01-31 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 31/01/2012 09:51, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > On 31/01/12 14:37, Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> If the LFS IRC channels are to continue a new home will need to be found >> for them. I'd like the current channel admins to give this some thought. >> Let me know if you have any

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-8.0

2012-01-31 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> What I wish more of the experienced folks would do is reveal the > decisions they made as they built their latest system. It could be an > excellent education for those of us looking for well thought out > designs. Entire book can be written on such subjects. The ensuing "wall of text" on a m

[lfs-dev] No IRC on the new server

2012-01-31 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi, Unfortunately the new data centre does not allow us to run IRC of any kind (both clients and servers) and would be considered going against their AUP. If the LFS IRC channels are to continue a new home will need to be found for them. I'd like the current channel admins to give this some th

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-8.0

2012-01-30 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Just don't fall into change for the sake of change. > Good point. > > Lookup the bumblebee fiasco on google, > The bumble devs had a line rm -rf /usr /lib in a install script > so you installed the app and your /usr was gone. > > Do you really want everything in /usr? > A typo is a typo. Say

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-8.0

2012-01-30 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> I think this concept is one of all/most the old farts are moving on...to be > taken over by the youngens who are now thinking that they are the masters > when thye haven't a clue for history. > > I will take the ways of unix from the 70's, It is that way for many _good_ > reasons. Yes, you're

[lfs-dev] Server migration

2012-01-30 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, Just a head's up that we're moving forward with the LFS server migration. Current hardware is getting old and I'm taking pro-active action to change to a newer server while we have the luxury of time before hardware failures. The server will also be moved to a data centre in the US th

Re: [lfs-dev] Adding LVM/RAID/initfamfs

2012-01-24 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> I believe they still are. I don't think the kernel recognizes UUIDs, so > an initrd (initramfs) is still needed to implement UUIDs and labels. > You're right, I stand corrected. I haven't booted Linux w/o an init ram disk in so long... > There is no 'linuxrd' command in GRUB2, only 'linux',

Re: [lfs-dev] Adding LVM/RAID/initfamfs

2012-01-24 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> To me, the biggest reason to use initiramfs is if you want to have the > root fs on a sw raid device, e.g. md0. All the other reasons are fairly > exotic. root on lvm? why? On nfs? Maybe, but still exotic. > Encrypted? Data, yes, but why the root fs? > We have to be careful here. What see

Re: [lfs-dev] Adding LVM/RAID/initfamfs

2012-01-24 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Another way to work around that issue is not using static device node > names if they don't end up being statically assigned. You can use a > partition's Label or UUID and reference them in /etc/fstab. Running > "blkid" will obtain the values you'll need. This makes the partitions > persistent i

Re: [lfs-dev] Adding LVM/RAID/initfamfs

2012-01-24 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> On my system I don't always get the same device at /dev/sda. Rebooting can > change my /dev/sda to /dev/sdg, or any other device letter, without any > physical change in the underlying disks or cabling. This is not a problem in > the eyes of the kernel devs, and will never be "fixed", because

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-15 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Putting those packages in LFS leaves them unused unless we tell the user > to build them in Chapter 5, repartition, and then start over. I don't > like that approach. > I'm not sure I'm following that one. Which packages will be left unused and why would you need to repartition (presumably yo

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-15 Thread Gerard Beekmans
No objections to choice, and therefore optional packages, but it > might be the thin end of the wedge - e.g. some people think > autotools could be skipped, and *most* of the time the LFS book > doesn't need them (unlike BLFS, which needs them a lot of times when > things in the base system have ch

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-15 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Learning needs to be an incremental process. Once you learn the basics, > you can go on to more advanced topics. > Absolutely. No argument on that one. > On the other hand, setting up a initramfs may require a lot more. There > have been mentions of RAID, encrypted filesystems, LVM, and netw

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-14 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 14/01/2012 07:14, Andrew Benton wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 01:22:45 -0800 > Zachary Kotlarek wrote: > >> But yes, if you want to do a modules-only build you do need to rebuild the >> initramfs when you change kernels. Or at least the /lib/modules bit of it. >> My point was just that, since

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Direction

2012-01-13 Thread Gerard Beekmans
;I wish I had seen this hint sooner or read a section in BLFS sooner; now I have to redo all/most of the LFS system from scratch, again". There is great value in rebuilding an LFS system many times if you want to. Being "forced" to do so is nothing but tedious and not alway

[lfs-dev] Happy New Year

2012-01-01 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Good afternoon guys, I'd like to wish you all a Happy New Year. Hopefully you all are well on your way to recover from last night's partying. Ciao, Gerard -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information pa

Re: LFS' future server plans

2011-09-11 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 11/09/2011 21:13, William Tracy wrote: This may not advance this particular discussion very much, but: What I would love to see, and what I'm actually surprised that nobody in the FOSS community has built yet, is a discussion board system with a separated back-end that can be attached to mu

Re: LFS' future server plans

2011-09-11 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> consider myself in the ol fashion category. All of my news& updates > comes in the form of email for the most part. Other then that, have a > list of bookmarked sites I open up in tabs via Firefox. > > I usually have access to email though (Gmail, so as long as I have a > browser), and I know

Re: LFS' future server plans

2011-09-11 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> and, weirdly, this came back to me quickly - my recent posts to > -support, where speed might be more important, were a lot slower. See previous email I sent just before this one. I cleared the backlog and queue in Mailman. It should be speedier across all lists now. Until it bogs down agai

Re: LFS' future server plans

2011-09-11 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 11/09/2011 18:09, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 01:40:27PM -0500, Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> This period of time where we discuss migrations would be a good time for >> us to discuss any wholesome changes we might like to implement. We can >> start off with a n

Re: LFS' future server plans

2011-09-11 Thread Gerard Beekmans
On 11/09/2011 14:20, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Gerard Beekmans wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> The LFS server recently passed its five year mark. While there are still >> no indications yet of hardware problems or degraded performance due to >> aging components yet, I&#

LFS' future server plans

2011-09-11 Thread Gerard Beekmans
ing the current setup and methods without any thought to it. As always I'm open to any and all suggestions regarding both the server itself and the aforementioned potential changes that could be implemented. -- Gerard Beekmans -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Ticket 2412 - Toolchain Technical Notes

2009-11-15 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> I agree but I still don't see what is not explained. I've re-read your > post from yesterday several times. Are you saying that we should > explain the process of cross-compilation? To me it is reasonably > obvious that if you use cross-compilation techniques then the system > can't use r

Re: Ticket 2412 - Toolchain Technical Notes

2009-11-15 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> You are arguing because of an implication that, quite honestly, I don't see. > > I'm not trying to be argumentative. To me it's just seeing a technical explanation that feels incomplete. Some claims are made that then aren't further explained. I'll have to admit that I don't remember all t

Re: Ticket 2412 - Toolchain Technical Notes

2009-11-15 Thread Gerard Beekmans
An example of how the host can corrupt the temporary libraries when you don't cross-compile would be very educational as well. It helps in proving that cross-compiling really is recommended. I don't think the above is applicable. If it's not applicable then that note should be rem

RE: Ticket 2412 - Toolchain Technical Notes

2009-11-14 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> > What more do we need to add? Or can we just close the ticket? > > I think it was addressed in the updates Matt made about four months > ago > > and about 2 months after ticket 2412 was opened. > > I'm happy to close that ticket off, I don't think it needs any more > explanation but am open to

Re: More frequent snapshots of SVN

2009-05-27 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Changes more than once a day may be confusing. The book is now identified by > a > date. If there are different versions with the same date, it could cause a > new > user a problem. > > Developers, on the other hand, build in their own sandbox and don't need the > site to do it. > > I'd r

Re: Next time somebody arrives at Chapter 5 - GCC Pass 2, please try the following...

2009-05-27 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Trent, > for file in gcc/config/linux64.h gcc/config/linux.h gcc/config/sysv4.h; > Right, I totally forgot about the other architecture subdirectories. I briefly considered just now modifying that to "for file in gcc/config/*/file.h" but then it won't match files in the gcc/config director

More frequent snapshots of SVN

2009-05-27 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi, Currently http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/development/ refreshes once a day. Seeing it only takes about 1.5 to 2 minutes to generate those files, there isn't any problem updating those files more frequently. Once an hour seems reasonable. On the other hand, it'd be a waste o

Next time somebody arrives at Chapter 5 - GCC Pass 2, please try the following...

2009-05-27 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hiya, Next time somebody arrives at Chapter 5 - GCC Pass 2, can you deviate slightly from the book and try out the change mentioned in Ticket #2413 at http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2413 I just deleted my Chapter 5 so I was wondering if one of you guys is already in the process of

Re: LFS-BOOK PDF generation

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Alright. I've enabled the PDF section in the nightly LFS render script. > I'm running it through cron ahead of schedule in a few minutes to make > sure it's able to find all the JDK, FOP and FAI stuff. > That seems to work properly now. PDF is added to the nightly generated files. While

Re: LFS-BOOK PDF generation

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Looking at the dingbats, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingbat, I don't see > where > italic or bold dingbats make sense. We can just ignore these warnings. > > Alright. I've enabled the PDF section in the nightly LFS render script. I'm running it through cron ahead of schedule in a few m

Re: LFS-BOOK PDF generation

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
The line overflow has been fixed by creating individual index entries rather than one long one in shell-syntax presentation. Makes it easier to read as well as discussed elsewhere in this thread. Gerard -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.or

Re: LFS-BOOK PDF generation

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Some lines are wrapped, but one or more of the 3 lines that have: > > /usr/include/{asm{,-generic},drm,linux,mtd,rdma,sound,video}/*.h > > are causing the problem. We can probably fix it by breaking that up into > multiple entries in the seglist item and multiple varlistentry items. > That

Re: LFS-BOOK PDF generation

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Go for it. I've gost several other items working. > > Working on it right now. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: LFS-BOOK PDF generation

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> I think I found it. In the very last page of the index: > > # /usr/include/{asm{,-generic},drm,linux,mtd, rdma,sound,video}/*.h: > Linux-2.6.29.4 API Headers > While I appreciate the way that's written, it's hardly readable and it does take a few careful looks to actually construct the fi

Re: LFS-BOOK PDF generation

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> I tried running make pdf on quantum, but got: > > /bin/sh: fop: command not found > I didn't add the JDK and FOP directories to the global $PATH yet. Add the appropriate lines to your .bash_profile or .bashrc: PATH=$PATH:/usr/fop export JAVA_HOME=/opt/jdk export ANT_HOME=/opt/ant and to .

Re: LFS-6.5 Status

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Gerard, I took the liberty of making several grammar/wording changes in the > preface. If you are OK with them, I think you can close #2326. > > I've been going over the book for a couple of days now and no 3rd person text > jumped out to me. We may be OK with #2092 also. We can always make q

Re: LFS-BOOK PDF generation

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> I looked for the overflow, but couldn't find it. I would have thought it > might > have been one of the boot or udev scripts, but I didn't spot the problem. > You > might look at the lfs-pdf.fo and see if you can get to block 1824. I think > that > 1pt == 1000mpt == 1/72 inch so we are

Book's Makefile leaves temporary files behind

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hiya, I can't remember if there was an ulterior motive for this or not. After generating the book, a few temporary files were left behind: - lfs-full.xml - lfs-html.xml - lfs-pdf.fo - lfs-pdf.xml These files are all removed by the 'tmpdir' target that runs just before 'validxml' so it's not a

LFS-BOOK PDF generation

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi, I just installed the missing pieces on the server to allow PDF generation again (JDK, FOP and FAI). First attempt to render the PDF seems to have successful minus a few warnings regarding missing fonts and an overflow problem in a paragraph. Generated PDF is here: http://www.linuxfromscra

Re: LFS-6.5 Status

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> #2326 Modifications to Preface gerard > > Some changes have been made. Waiting for final review to close. > > #2092 Switch all text back from third person to second person pronouns > gerard > > Some fixes have been made. We can probably promote this to 6.5 > > Agreed on #

Re: LFS-6.5 Status

2009-05-26 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi Emmanuel, > It seems that the attachement has been remove. So here is the patch. > Patch came through properly the first time around, at least on my end. I have added the patch to the corresponding Trac ticket. The suggested edits seem pretty straight-forward and I don't think there are a

Server outage

2009-03-04 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi, I'm sure some of you will have noticed a server outage earlier this morning. The problem is corrected and I will be monitoring the hardware to make sure it stays that way. There are no clear indications what went wrong and I didn't take the time to drive to the data center to take a look a

Re: A new year with a lot of memories

2009-01-25 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hey Enrique, Thanks for your encouraging feedback. It's always nice to hear such reports > PS: My only gripe is that I used to bring people to the LFS page and show > them how the different penguin icons matched the different stages of the > book. It ripped lots of smiles. > Pleasure gone...

LFS Toolchain

2009-01-18 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi, I'm finding myself a little lost in the most recent discussion (subject "Adapting LFS SVN for multilib"). After a couple of tangents I think we can stand to take a few steps back and get back to the matter at hand. Allow me to summarize what I think is going on. It'll likely help explain w

A new year with a lot of memories

2009-01-18 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, You all know that saying "time flies when you're having fun," right? The idea behind LFS first came to be in the first few months of 1999. The exact date has since been lost so I've taken to assume January for convenience reasons. This means that with a 2-3 month margin of error we ha

Re: Mailing lists archives

2008-12-06 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> I'll have to looking into the Python source. I didn't see a > configuration item to turn that on or off at will. Granted, I admit I That should be taken care of now. The archive pages will re-generate themselves when new messages to the lists start to arrive. The template was updated to not

Re: Mailing lists archives

2008-12-06 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Or compress them. Maybe make them only available to subscribed > members. I wanted to grab the last two months of the blfs-support > mailing list archive. > Maybe someone can email me the files. Compressing is an option but would also require some Mailman modifications, or a helper script

Re: Mailing lists archives

2008-12-06 Thread Gerard Beekmans
> Any (easy) way to to remove the "Downloadable version" from the archive > list overview? I imagine it's easy. I mean, we got the source code, right :) I'll have to looking into the Python source. I didn't see a configuration item to turn that on or off at will. Granted, I admit I didn't look

Re: Mailing lists archives

2008-12-06 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Howdy, Part of the archives are currently disabled due to excessive bandwidth consumption. A robots.txt file was installed to prevent search engines from keep downloading all the archived messages all the time. There were months it incurred hundreds of gigs in server uploads. Trying to downloa

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