Re: License creator source

2003-08-19 Thread linux_il
Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2003, Oren Gozlan wrote about License creator source: I'm not sure that this is the place.. But ... Indeed, it probably isn't. Asking such a question on linux-il is almost like asking how do I cook steak on a vegetarians' mailing list - even if people

Re: Linux Lectures in Tel Aviv

2003-08-17 Thread linux_il
Parking is a big problem. Whenever I had to get there for any reason finding a parking space was a nightmare or costly (or both). Fridays are inconvenient too. Ariel Biener wrote: On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: I think TAU is the better place in all respects. Just like the

Re: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread linux_il
Hi, Would Tal clear this up, please? I'm intrigued. I feel like everyone else understood that you want to know if you changed the interface of your own class while I read your question that you want to know if the new version of the class depends on new external code. Who's right? Thanks,

Re: when was the beginning?

2003-08-14 Thread linux_il
Hmmm. I'll have to cross-check with the people who did this with me (e.g. Izar, formerly from Aduva, and maybe Marc was involved too), but as far as I can tell I already installed Linux on a 386 Olivetti as early as mid-1992 at HUJI CS. We had NFS and YP (NIS) and AMD (automounter). No X11 at the

Re: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread linux_il
import caluses are meaningless here. They are just a syntactic sugar to let programmers avoid having to type the full package names every time they reffer to a class. The class signature also has nothing to do with this since as I understand the question Tal wants to know whether all the

Candidate for next mini-CD occasion

2003-08-14 Thread linux_il
Local Area Security Linux http://www.localareasecurity.com/ The Slashdot story: http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/03/08/12/1747200.shtml?tid=106tid =126tid=172tid=185 And since it's based on Knoppix maybe it can be tweaked to be used as a bootstrap for installing Debian. --Amos

Re: Secure kernel problem

2003-08-14 Thread linux_il
Not that I'm familiar with this particular problem but which JDK/JRE are you trying to use? GTK makes me suspect it's the latest Sun 1.4, am I right? Have you tried IBM's JDK? Also - I've just read in Slashdot a couple of days ago that some people at RH have generated an Eclipse compiled with

Re: Keysigning issues

2003-08-02 Thread linux_il
Dan Armak wrote: When we get digital IDs+keys though, they'll have photos and we'll have to publish the public keys, I guess... Does that mean photos of everyone will be available? To whom? Anyone have any links to info on the government's plans in this regard? The government already keeps a

Re: Clock Drifts

2003-07-25 Thread linux_il
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:54:19AM +0300, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hi Clan, I have a weird problem: My system time drifts 18 minutes back. I set the right time and after a while (I can't say how long) it goes back 15-18 minutes... i.e. now: my KDE Clock applet reads 11:29 Aruzei Zahav

[JOBOFFER] Linux/Unix/Windows system admin

2003-07-24 Thread linux_il
Hello, We are looking for a system administrator with experience with Linux (mostly Red Hat) and UNIX, but who can also maintain integration with a Windows network and Microsoft Exchange server. Candidates can e-mail ella.davidson at optier.com. If you have questions then I'll try to answer them

Re: Weird Mozilla/microsoft.com behaviour

2003-07-15 Thread linux_il
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 01:39:26PM +0300, Orr Dunkelman wrote: Now, I know that mozilla is faster on my conmputer with my netowrk (same proxy, I mentioned?). So the question is this an explorer optimization, or microsoft.com just identifies mozilla's and other not-native browsers and gets

Re: What is ARP? [ Was Re: A 2 hosts Ethernet network with a 255.255.255.254 netmask. ]

2003-07-11 Thread linux_il
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 07:57:35PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: You are right that when I ping x.x.x.x I do know the IP address. Yet according to the DSL-HOWTO/appendix.html ARP Address Resolution Protocol. Converts MAC addresses to IP addresses. The way I read

Re: apache web server - hardware solution

2003-07-08 Thread linux_il
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 02:00:58PM +0300, Shany Pozin wrote: My thoughts were : dual xeon P3 with 2MB cache / or dual AMD (don't know which one yet) 2GB of RAM RAID0 array with two 80GB Western Digital 7200-rpm and a Raid controller 2*LAN 10/100MB VIDEO CARD CD ROM 4U case I get

Re: apache web server - hardware solution

2003-07-08 Thread linux_il
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 02:43:07PM +0300, Shany Pozin wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 14:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get the impression you are trying to avoid a single point of failure, am I right? I will try to tackle this with a load balancer. And duplicated systems behind it? I'd

Re: insane memory usage

2003-07-08 Thread linux_il
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:29:21PM +0300, Eran Rundstein wrote: Well, before adding 1Gb of ram, I had 384Mb. Adding more RAM didnt affect the performance at all :\ You mean you added RAM just because of this? Well, you might understand now why the added memory haven't changed things - it

Re: X keyboard handling

2003-07-04 Thread linux_il
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 07:50:42PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: 3. Knowing when the user switches between the groups (I think there is an X event that notifies about that, so this may not be a major problem). Dunno about the rest, but running xev and pressing Left-Alt+Left-Shift produces an

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-03 Thread linux_il
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:42:51AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: (Ok, I know we can trap acceess to it via syscalltrace but) What was that syscalltrace? I'm looking for tools in that area and couldn't find such a program in google or otherwise (specifically - I'm thinking of something which will

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-03 Thread linux_il
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 11:10:45AM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:56:29AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was that syscalltrace? http://syscalltrack.sf.net Thanks. Sounds like just what I was after, including a Debian package. I'm looking for tools in

Re: hang

2003-06-27 Thread linux_il
% cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20 % find -name \*.c | xargs egrep '(nopentium|nonpentium)' /arch/i386/kernel/setup.c: * mem=nopentium disables the 4MB page tables. /arch/i386/kernel/setup.c: if (!memcmp(from+4, nopentium, 9)) { I think this gives a definitive

Re: Captain Internet Responds

2003-06-24 Thread linux_il
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:22:35AM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Aviram Jenik wrote: Unfortunately, despite several attempts by Shachar and Ira, we couldn't get the Captain to meet Hamakor face to face for further explanations. However, we're very happy with the community support

[JOBSEEK] Looking for a job

2003-06-24 Thread linux_il
Hello, I'm looking for some system and/or Java and/or C/C++ and/or network programming job. My resume is available in multiple formats under: http://picton.bard.org.il/Resume-li (MS Word, OpenOffice, RTF and HTML) Thanks for any pointers, --Amos Shapira

Re: Problems with PASV ftp

2003-06-24 Thread linux_il
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 11:14, Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm afraid that this command line does not leave enough info in the parsed output to say anything about the result. Can you please add a -w filename to the command line, and then send (at least me)

Re: Cable Internet DNS Problem

2003-06-22 Thread linux_il
On Sunday 22 June 2003 16:41, Shaul Karl wrote: I am not aware of any limitation for editing it as far as policy is concerned. On the contrary. The fact that it is under /etc might policy or no policy - the bottom line is that when you upgrade the package it will (or supposed to) notice that

Re: Problems with PASV ftp

2003-06-22 Thread linux_il
On Monday 23 June 2003 07:22, Herouth Maoz wrote: Yes, indeed. I used set passive in ncftp, and examined the transcript later to be sure that indeed it was sending the PASV or the PORT command as indicated. And I tried with every Mandrake PPC mirror - copied and pasted the URL to ncftp. With

Re: Applying open source pressure on SCO

2003-06-19 Thread linux_il
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 06:09:01PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote: The Boycott SCO apge on pclinuxonline.com has an interesting suggestion: Linus, please deny SCO the right to the Linux trademark until they drop these suits and agree in writing to never pursue them again against any Linux vendor.

Re: Applying open source pressure on SCO

2003-06-19 Thread linux_il
On Thursday 19 June 2003 20:16, Dan Armak wrote: IANAL, so I don't really know either way. AFAIK you can't forbid someone from using your trademark if he isn't directly competing with you, and a Can anyone define the verb use trademark? What does it mean? It's not like SCO claims their software

Arik Baratz's phone number, anyone? (it's urgent)

2003-06-18 Thread linux_il
If someone has Arik Baratz' phone number then I'd appreciate it if you could send it to me (direct, to the address above). He expressed interest in my Alcatel modem and I need to know if it's still relevant before my partner buys the Samsung for money this afternoon. He didn't reply to my e-mail.

summary about ADSL problems - just got stuck at Actcom

2003-06-18 Thread linux_il
So to sum up the ordeal: 1. Bought a new Samsung modem - I was told at the Even Gvirol branch that it costs 400 and that 240 is only for the special package, but when I bought it somewere else they charged only 240, maybe she was nice to me and considered my purchase as part of the special. 2.

RE: PPPoE on Linux - timeout waiting for PADO/PADS packets

2003-06-17 Thread linux_il
Thanks. I 'm aware of that button. I dthis reset this morning but it didn't help. Actcom support (a Debian user himself, it turned) said that as far as he's aware once Bezeq notices you use PPPoE they'll support on PPPoE on the line. Bezeq support denied this. Bezeq support also said they don't

RE: [META] Messages Received Twice [was Re: nfs blocking mount]

2003-06-17 Thread linux_il
From a quick skim through the headers I wonder if it could be a bounced message which gets injected back into the list? Stops after one loop - because of that extra header or because it noticed that bounce string in there? -Original Message- From: Beni Cherniavsky And these extra

RE: PPPoE on Linux - timeout waiting for PADO/PADS packets

2003-06-17 Thread linux_il
Thanks a lot. It indeed helped to see where I'm standing. I talked to Bezeq wow support and it turns that if my modem is still under worranty they will replace it for me at BezeqStore with a Samsong at no cost. It's a bit of a shame to get rid of this modem because it is supposed to be

Re: PPPoE on Linux - timeout waiting for PADO/PADS packets

2003-06-17 Thread linux_il
I was just quoting Bezeq Store's site (https://www.bezeq.co.il/application/bezeqstore/scripts/prod.asp?prod_id=20948) I put my plan on the table, no intention to make profit out of this but people here quoted the PRO at 1000 NIS a couple of weeks ago so I though if someone wants it for less then

PPPoE on Linux - timeout waiting for PADO/PADS packets

2003-06-16 Thread linux_il
Hello, I've followed the instructions of enabling PPPoE on Linux as described at http://www.isoc.org.il/~doron/PPPoE.html and it worked at first but now after a reboot it stopped. I get multiple messages like Timeout waiting for PADO packets and some Timeout waiting for PADS packets. I tried

RE: [OT] Spamming (was [OT] A note about internet zahav customer care)

2003-06-16 Thread linux_il
From: Arik Baratz I beg to differ. Robbers know that what they are doing is not When was the last time you got a spam from the true address? Why would they do that unless they wanted to try to cover their tracks. They would then proceed to claim that the police force is an organized group

RE: nfs blocking mount

2003-06-16 Thread linux_il
From: Oded Arbel Ira Abramov wrote: How can one get a list of mounted filesystems without getting blocked running df or mount with a dead NFS server? I am writing a little How about reading /etc/mtab ? And then do what with that info? You just get a static list as maintained by

RE: nfs blocking mount

2003-06-16 Thread linux_il
Use the soft mount option? http://btr0xw.rz.uni-bayreuth.de/cgi-bin/manpages/mount/8 Hope this helps. BTW - have you considered other network filesystems? I'm aware that NFS is much more portable, but if it's between all-linux machines then I heard about other network filesystems which sound to

Re: FS/OS in schools: why don't *they* tell us what they want?

2003-06-10 Thread linux_il
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:20:42PM +0300, Ely Levy wrote: Yea, But the EU beat you to it. they stardart working on a promoting a I'd replace But with and. Sounds like part of the road was already done. --Amos = To unsubscribe,

Re: FS/OS in schools: why don't *they* tell us what they want?

2003-06-08 Thread linux_il
On Sunday 08 June 2003 22:42, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: Government decision that all schools should use OpenOffice would also cost the taxpayers (maybe less) and lock out the competition. The only visible difference is that we win and they lose. That's OK, but speaking in these terms and

Re: FS/OS in schools: why don't *they* tell us what they want?

2003-06-07 Thread linux_il
On Friday 06 June 2003 16:25, Vadim Vygonets wrote: Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, Jun 06, 2003: I have a feeling that schools are a very important goal - see how Mac's survived for so long simply because they managed to take over the American schools section. Why are you so keen on

Re: Force reboot a machine?

2003-06-04 Thread linux_il
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 04:26:14PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:23:16PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: About serial consol - anyone has a RJ-45 to D9 serial cable? And where would you connect that RJ45? This part of the

Symulation of WitForMultipleObjects on Linux

2003-06-03 Thread linux_il
Hi, About the WaitForMultipleObjects on Linux - it indeed looked like a useful thing back in the NT 3.51 days, except that it didn't work for Socket handles and the limit of 64 objects was annoying (had to accomodate for unlimited number of threads and file handles). You might want to look at

Re: Hamakor finally established!

2003-04-04 Thread linux_il
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 17:00, Alon Altman wrote: I think making the official membership card a blank CD-R/RW with the member's details outside should be best. Also, I think each member should get a signed (by the amuta) file certifying he/she is a member up to a certain date, and that

Re: Looking for SysAdmin Troubleshooter

2003-04-04 Thread linux_il
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 21:45, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader, from the post of Wed, 02 Apr: Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am running a RedHat 7.0 system as an Internet gateway for my LAN. I am looking for someone to come in and diagnose and fix a problem I

Re: Redhat 9 going out next week???

2003-03-25 Thread linux_il
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:30:55PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: No. Will there be? yes. That's one of the reasons for the incompatible major version number, to warn you about such things. Is there a workaround Of course. Don't pass binaries around, only source and compile on each

Re: backup woes

2003-03-20 Thread linux_il
On Friday 21 March 2003 00:14, Shaul Karl wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 07:29:19AM +0200, Michael Sternberg wrote: /dev/hda6: Can't read next inode while scanning inode #2453824 How can I check out to what file belongs this inode ? Perhaps with debugfs? That is the only thing I can say

Re: Request for update on the current Linux Distributions.

2003-03-17 Thread linux_il
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 09:21:38PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: The guy basically asked for a faster distribution. With all due respect to the various distributions and their specific advantages and disadvantages, significant speed difference isn't one of these things. Other that +-10% I'd

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-13 Thread linux_il
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:35:27PM +0200, Herouth Maoz wrote: At 18:47 +0200 on 11/3/2003, Alon Altman wrote: The question is- does it support MSIE 7.0? The answer: They don't know. This question is the same for a standards-compliant site, because you don't know when one of the

Re: [Fwd: BSA Accuses OpenOffice ftp sites of piracy]

2003-03-06 Thread linux_il
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 20:41, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote: Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Mar 04, 2003: You remind me what I knew about using Windows before I arrived to my current workplace. Outlook is not just a mail client but a (convenient!

Re: [Fwd: BSA Accuses OpenOffice ftp sites of piracy]

2003-03-06 Thread linux_il
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:51, Ira Abramov wrote: the point is, the right tool for the right job. I agree plugins are great, and I agree the CLI pipeline is not too smart in many cases to serve all the needs, but forking to a new process with several file descriptors (not just the one) is a

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-04 Thread linux_il
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 00:54, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Tue, Mar 04, 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about Re: egged.co.il works: So another broken site is supported, instead of it being built properly. Right... And worse, this gives Microsoft a whole new baseline on which they can create new

Re: [Fwd: BSA Accuses OpenOffice ftp sites of piracy]

2003-03-04 Thread linux_il
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 22:05, Shoshannah Forbes wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think many people who despise MS (me among them) admit that they are kings when it comes to GUI design and usability for non-technical users. I guess you never used a Mac then... Not recently. In fact I can't

Re: Linux the local trade rags

2003-02-26 Thread linux_il
On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 10:12, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: So, some of you might be interested in what some people have to say about Linux in Israel: http://www.dailymaily.co.il/26-2-2003/news.htm (Scroll till you see Shachar and my ugly face :-) Simply hilarious! Worth a copy at the Internet

Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc

2003-02-25 Thread linux_il
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 16:59, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Vadim Vygonets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From what I understood, people are complaining that icc takes more time to compile the same files than gcc. It makes sense to me that a compiler that optimizes better with take more time. But

RE: Intel compiler vs. gcc

2003-02-24 Thread linux_il
What's the point of running two such compilations in parallel? They just compete on cpu and resources. Have you tried to do the same (compile X11 and KDE CVS's at the same time) with the GNU gcc and got better results? -Original Message- From: Hetz Ben-Hamo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Intel compiler vs. gcc

2003-02-24 Thread linux_il
yes, certainly, I'm aware of make -j 3, but two separate projects which look at different files and parts of the disk (causing lots of head skips, cache threshing etc)? It just sounds wierd to me that someone will run two such large compilations in parallel and then say that the compiler is slow.

RE: Intel compiler vs. gcc

2003-02-24 Thread linux_il
I don't see how you concluded that this point was missed. It still doesn't mean that it's not legitimate to look at the performance gains these 306$ might give people who are willing to invest them. I made a small bet with someone from management that our company will be asked by a customer to

RE: Problem with Pth or make or what?

2003-02-23 Thread linux_il
-Original Message- From: Beni Cherniavsky Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Problem with Pth or make or what? Aside from security, it can also confuse scripts when you run them in a directory containing a program named the same as some system program the

RE: Problem with Pth or make or what?

2003-02-23 Thread linux_il
-Original Message- From: Beni Cherniavsky Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:54 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Problem with Pth or make or what? Good advice. Indeed a quick grep of scripts in /usr/bin shows most reset the path. I was refering to my own ~/bin scripts and

RE: Ebay privacy policies

2003-02-20 Thread linux_il
Here is a free URL, this story is all over the net and I think I saw it mentioned even in the printed Yediot http://news.ep.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?tsscript=itempath=4id=351882 -Original Message- From: Michael Sternberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003

RE: Ebay privacy policies

2003-02-20 Thread linux_il
If anyone is interested, I opened account linuxil password linuxil. Enjoy. -Original Message- From: Michael Sternberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Ebay privacy policies -Original Message-

RE: debian mirror

2003-02-19 Thread linux_il
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:23:25AM +0200, Ely Levy wrote: Hey, How is debian mirroring going in israel? There was a discussion on debian-il. The short summary: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il:/pub/OS/Debian mirrors most of Debian i386 Is this faster than the european sites you mention below? 2.

RE: debian mirror

2003-02-19 Thread linux_il
First - thanks for the effort, it's always a welcomed message to read. There is a mirror at debian.org.il but I suspect it's connected through an ADSL line and not very fast even if I'm connected through the same ISP (Actcom). I run apt-spy from time to time and it mostly finds hosts in Europe

RE: sim-0.8.1 glibc and misc [long]

2003-02-19 Thread linux_il
On my unstable debian box: picton:~ dpkg -S crt1.o libc6-dev: /usr/lib/gcrt1.o libc6-dev: /usr/lib/crt1.o libc6-dev: /usr/lib/Mcrt1.o Do you have libc6-dev installed? Well, it's already installed so dpkg -S is useful, but if you would go to http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and go to the

RE: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyone

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
I'm not familiar with previous instances of this discussion, I just know I'm very annoyed from having to keep editing the to field every time I reply to this list. Why are there three addresses for this list? -Original Message- From: Shachar Shemesh Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003

RE: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyo ne

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
-Original Message- From: Ira Abramov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] lshell.com ] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyo ne Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 18 Feb:

RE: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 01:41:01PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why can't people learn to use procmail? it's annoying! Because part of supporting open standards is that you don't have to use specific software in order to enjoy a forum properly. I can't use procmail because

RE: Reply to list vs. no - suggeted solution to accomodate everyo ne

2003-02-18 Thread linux_il
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 18 Feb: so was I until I switched from pine to mutt :) Currently I read it on Outlook at work (tried to forward back to home but things got weared). why not subscribe your home address instead? It's a long (technical) story. I

RE: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread linux_il
Would that router provide firewall capabilities? I love the flexibility of having my Linux box as a firewall (and it costs less than your quoted price (ADSL ethernet modem cost me 240NIS, ethernet cards borrowed but would cost another 140 NIS for two cards)). --Amos -Original Message-

RE: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread linux_il
As far as I can tell Linux supports practically any card you'll find in the market. What I would do if I were you is: 1. see what your favourite store offers, make double-sure they give you the right model number (make it clear to them that if it doesn't work with your PC then you'll give it

RE: Collection of sample high-quality iptables configurations?

2003-02-14 Thread linux_il
Here is something which should fit your needs (except maybe that I use a fixed IP address). Hope this helps. BTW - once you setup the configuration you can save/restore it in the boot scripts with iptables-save and iptables-restore. --Amos -Original Message- From: Omer Zak Sent:

RE: xkb handling in upcoming 4.3.0

2003-02-11 Thread linux_il
-Original Message- From: Shachar Shemesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:07 AM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: xkb handling in upcoming 4.3.0 Well, I beg to differ. I suspect the bottom line is the same result, only it sounds like you know

RE: Please reply to me direct (was: Re: backup utility)

2003-02-11 Thread linux_il
I don't mind questions from offlist people, but questions about proprietery products with no intereset for the Free Software community (nor even, sigh, for OpenSource people), should be filtered out. Not to defend the practice of asking a question without being on the list, but what about the

RE: Please reply to me direct (was: Re: backup utility)

2003-02-11 Thread linux_il
Not to defend the practice of asking a question without being on the list, but what about the bigger goal of helping a linux win? I see that as a moot issue. Linux has already won. what I Ever heard of be paranoid? I wouldn't say that Linux has won any time soon, there is a lot more

RE: What is missing before we have out-of-the-box Linux Hebrew experience in RedHat 8.0/Gnome desktop?

2003-02-10 Thread linux_il
Interesting read (though I'm a Debian user). I tried to restart xft (the X Font Server), and after it was restarted, several font-using applications (emacs, AbiWord, gedit, etc.) failed at startup due to failure to find fonts. A full reboot of the machine fixed this problem.

RE: What is missing before we have out-of-the-box Linux Hebrew ex perience in RedHat 8.0/Gnome desktop?

2003-02-10 Thread linux_il
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting read (though I'm a Debian user). What complementary actions does one need to do to get full Hebrew in a modern Debian installation? I'd love to answer that, but I always was hazy about hebrew/character-sets/keyboard bindings and so

RE: xkb handling in upcoming 4.3.0

2003-02-10 Thread linux_il
I'd like to concur with that! I though that I missed the line of this discussion because some positions sounded so wierd (mainly stuff like Shift-9 opening braces all the time). Not until this reversing began with KDE have I ever had problems with braces in any language I used on computers and

RE: root fs mount options

2003-02-10 Thread linux_il
Zombies are walking dead - don't worry about them too much except that it would be nice to get rid of them. I wonder if maybe one of them is a child of the other and there are supposed to be two processes? -Original Message- From: Michael Sternberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

RE: OT: PROG question: regarding returning errors in libraries

2003-02-08 Thread linux_il
From: Oleg Goldshmidt I dislike errno-like global error codes - they are too easy to overwrite and too easy to forget to check thoroughly (since they exist sorta independently from the functions). I much prefer returning an error/success code from functions. Among other things, I consider

RE: ip over usb

2003-02-06 Thread linux_il
Just typed ip over usb in google and found some links about Ethernet over USB, might be good enough for you? BTW - it seems that most interest is drown around Zaurus PDA's, if that's the case for you then the first link from the search sounds useful: How to set up an Ethernet over USB connection

RE: ADSL/Cable in Israel

2003-02-05 Thread linux_il
I already have an ADSL Alcatel HomeConnect(?) modem I bought from Bezeq working fine with PPTP. Is there ANY reason for me to consider bothering with PPPoE (except that it sounds like it's more standard). Is it more relayable or anything like that? Thanks for putting up that document. Cheers,

RE: ADSL/Cable in Israel

2003-02-02 Thread linux_il
I wonder which ethernet ADSL modem you got (prompted by the statement that Bezeq stopped supporting Alcatel modems, which is what I have). From: Omer Zak Recently I got an ADSL connection. I made sure I get a non-USB ADSL modem by declaring in the application form that my PC does not have

RE: pppd persist?

2003-01-01 Thread linux_il
aha! now I did the connection between this and why I one of the repliers (thank you all!) stressed about being careful not to disconnect when not necessary. But I'm connected via actcom and have a permanent IP address so this is much less critical for me. Cheers, --Amos -Original

RE: still need help with USB printer

2003-01-01 Thread linux_il
At least on Debian we have lsusb(8) which comes in the usbutils package. hope this helps. -Original Message- From: shlomo solomon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 6:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: still need help with USB printer I've wasted

RE: still need help with USB printer

2003-01-01 Thread linux_il
My lsusb gives all the details it can find, which is a lot: Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Virtual Hub Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 1.00 bDeviceClass9 Hub bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0

RE: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-31 Thread linux_il
Well, we are drifting into the web and user interface design territory, but the point I made can be concluded from other points in the original list - pop-ups, annoying graphics, heavy load, relliance on particular browser version (even particular IE versions) all will drive away potential

RE: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-31 Thread linux_il
Yes, that's the spirit of my message. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Shlomi Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ilshell.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client On 31 Dec 2002, Oleg

RE: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-31 Thread linux_il
From: Oron Peled On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 08:41:55 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you missed the main point: 5. Bottom line - drives away potential business (customers, partners) and misses the whole point of having a web site. Very good, but now we should think of means to

RE: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-31 Thread linux_il
Here here to that! Education can be found the source of many solutions. Maybe aproaching such schools and offering them help with setting up Linux-based classes will be beneficial to both parties - the schools get lower cost of ownership (should probably be shown very good return on investment

RE: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-31 Thread linux_il
This remoinds me - I'm reading now The Complete DHTML refference (or something like that) from O'Reilly (don't sniger - this book is all about portability) and was wondering how feasable would it be to stick an IE compatibility module in Mozilla? Has anyone though of that? I don't know Mozilla's

pppd persist?

2002-12-31 Thread linux_il
Hi, I keep seeing people talk about pinging the other side of their ADSL line in order to discover whether it's still up and re-run pppd if ping fails. Have anyone of them tried pppd's persist option and decided that it's not good enough? I just put it on (with maxfail 0 so it will retry

RE: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-30 Thread linux_il
Maybe such a fight should be done under the title of web standards rather than open source vs. microsoft. I think there are already bodies which promote web standards adoption (forgot their details). Does anyone know if they have reps in Israel? -Original Message- From: Shoshannah

RE: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

2002-12-30 Thread linux_il
I think you missed the main point: 5. Bottom line - drives away potential business (customers, partners) and misses the whole point of having a web site. -Original Message- From: Oron Peled [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Hamakor website - http://www.hamakor.org.il

2002-12-29 Thread linux_il
-Original Message- From: Gilad Ben-Yossef The people you mention are active in the TelAviv Linux group (in fact, they practivly founded it) that holds bi weekly meeting and activities. How can I get in touch with this group (the Tel-Aviv Linux Group)? Can't find their e-mails or

RE: counting emails and pine questions

2002-12-29 Thread linux_il
It's a standard trick :-) Messages in these files are separated by From lines (notice the space). Why do you use less? You can supply the file name to grep: egrep -c '^From ' /var/spool/mail/USERNAME I'm not familiar with pine. Have you checked it's docs? It sounds like a trivial question.

RE: Takanon in transparent format [Was: Re: Hamakor website]

2002-12-29 Thread linux_il
Just a minor correction taken as an excuse to educate people about such organizations - (or I am going to be corrected) - the body in charge of the Takanon, and which is the top body in an Amuta in general, is the assembly (i.e. all voting members of the Amuta). The Vaad is just the

RE: Hamakor website - http://www.hamakor.org.il

2002-12-27 Thread linux_il
I appreciate the point about Hamakor aiming the entire open source area. Having a Penguin on the home page might promote the confusion with which a first-time visitor to the site already has about open source vs. linux vs. apache vs. GNU etc. Maybe a mix of logos is in order, or even a dominant

RE: Questions to RMS (was: Re: RMS, T'so and the LUG)

2002-12-23 Thread linux_il
Unless he's willing to swim here, if you believe the newspapers and remember the previous war, commercial flights will cease in case some objects start flying in unauthorized vertical paths. :-) Practical suggestion - let's just plan as if everything is going to be ok and at worst the plans will

RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-18 Thread linux_il
OK, let's start a religious war: VI sucks. (Just kidding :-) -Original Message- From: Uri Bruck If you gonna start a religious war, might as well have religion somewhere in it... :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to