On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 05:58:41PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:28:15 +0200
Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds to me like you could use two X servers running together and not
restart X.
Considering that I am pushing the limits of my memory already and
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 20:00, you wrote:
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Oh, you mean - like urpmq ?
urpmq is 'apt-cache search -n' . apt-cache search also searches the
description. 'apt-cache search jabber' will also list gaim and kopete.
also check out the large search box at the
top of the
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:28:15 +0200
Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 04:44:01AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
Actually to give the other point of view, with older, but not too old
graphic
cards it would have been VERY useful to be able to change color depth.
I
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 01:45:18AM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
From my experience, if you don't need the advanced features of apt,
especially automatic source build, then urpmi is a better tool.
What I most sorely miss with urpmi is a decent search capability.
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Oh, you mean - like urpmq ?
urpmq is 'apt-cache search -n' . apt-cache search also searches the
description. 'apt-cache search jabber' will also list gaim and kopete.
also check out the large search box at the
top of the rpmdrake interface - you can't miss it :-)
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:00:57PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
apt-setup
(This is also what is run at system install time)
This is part of Debian
I don't have that specific command installed as part of apt on my system
(apt4rpm), so I cannot attest at its capabilities but IIRC the
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 04:44:01AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
Actually to give the other point of view, with older, but not too old graphic
cards it would have been VERY useful to be able to change color depth.
I have an 8MB ati rage mobility M1 (rage pro) which is still rather common in
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:03:13 +0200, Ira Abramov wrote:
2. And you are trying to pick a fight with a guy who gave you a cynical but
technicly
correct answer.
cynical? B.S.
You used degrading and inflamatory language in several places
(unintelligent and silly are two examples). Your entire
On Sat, Jan 22, 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote about Re: rant: changing color depth:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:42:48PM -0500, Offer Kaye wrote:
rant
Year: 2005
Desktop: KDE 3.3.1
OS: Mepis Linux
Ability to change color depth: nil. nada. ziltch. Unless
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:16:15 +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
I agree. A color depth is something you typically choose once,
Hi Nadav,
1. I don't care if it's once or a thousand times, read my original
post. I just want to be able to do it *easily*. Where easily is
defined for an average desktop
On Sunday 23 January 2005 14:15, Offer Kaye wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:16:15 +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
I agree. A color depth is something you typically choose once,
Hi Nadav,
1. I don't care if it's once or a thousand times, read my original
post. I just want to be able to do it
Offer Kaye wrote:
2. The having to reboot issue I raised has nothing to do with doing
it on the fly. As you noted, it's irritating when Windows makes you do
it when installing software, but it is just as irritating when Linux
makes you reboot... If you tell me it is part of the way X is built, I
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:03:19 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
I think many distributions give you GUI utilities to customize the
XF86Config file. That's not the problem.
I couldn't find one built into KDE - I expected the desktop manager
to include a utility to change the color depth. I even
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:06:28 +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
then that
becomes an issue with your distribution providing the proper tools to
do the job - and there are... Other distros have
their own tools for easily modifying the X configuration.
I couldn't find one for Mepis and in any case I
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:27:50 +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
In short, the I can't change color depth without restarting X complaint
is no reason to prefer Windows,
I don't (well, except for games and that's a different story) prefer
Windows, I prefer Linux. I would prefer it even more if it were
This is not a real problem of Linux... So you
configure it once and then don't touch it later.
Configure it *how*!? That's exactly my problem - I couldn't find an
easy way to configure the color depth.
On Fedora systems run: redhat-config-xfree86 (or system-config-xfree86 on
Quoting Offer Kaye, from the post of Sun, 23 Jan:
I couldn't find one built into KDE - I expected the desktop manager
to include a utility to change the color depth. I even expected it to
be available from the settings winow you get by right-clicking the
desktop and choosing properties.
Quoting Offer Kaye, from the post of Sun, 23 Jan:
since moving to apt-get + Synaptic I'm in heaven :-)
Do you (or anyone else) have a suggestion for a good .deb based
distribution which is not sucky?
Never heard of Mepis and never tried Ubuntu, but how about Debian Sarge
and dpkg-reconfigure
Offer Kaye wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:06:28 +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
then that
becomes an issue with your distribution providing the proper tools to
do the job - and there are... Other distros have
their own tools for easily modifying the X configuration.
I couldn't find one for Mepis and
On Sun, Jan 23, 2005, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: rant: changing color depth:
I, for the record, vividly recall that a lot of programs I installed in
Windows back then, required a reboot. Maybe this is no longer the case with
WinXP and more modern software, but it was. And it never
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:59:36 +0200, Ira Abramov wrote:
must be because you are used to running Operating systems as
administrator
No I'm not.
sorry,
No you're not, not really. You feel I'm attacking your favourite OS
(I'm not), but instead of replying on technical grounds, you're
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:27:56 +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
or worse: every window
manager maker would have to include their own configuration tool.
There are over 300 distributions listed on distrowatch.com .
There are about 5 or 10 (give or take a few) popular Window Managers,
with only 2 really
Offer Kaye wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:27:56 +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
or worse: every window
manager maker would have to include their own configuration tool.
There are over 300 distributions listed on distrowatch.com .
There are about 5 or 10 (give or take a few) popular Window Managers,
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:26:55 +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
I did the math and your calculation is wrong...
In fact it makes no sense to have the X configuration UI provided by the
WM vendor while it makes every sense to have it provided by the distro
vendor: same as for any system level
On Sunday 23 January 2005 16:44, Offer Kaye wrote:
I don't (well, except for games and that's a different story) prefer
Windows, I prefer Linux.
This should be the beginning of your first mail :-)
Seems like many people got defensive because somebody
hinted Linux may have limitations or (God
On Sun, Jan 23, 2005, Offer Kaye wrote about Re: rant: changing color depth:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:27:56 +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
or worse: every window
manager maker would have to include their own configuration tool.
There are over 300 distributions listed on distrowatch.com
On Sun, Jan 23, 2005, Oron Peled wrote about Re: rant: changing color depth:
Question: anybody knows why (and how) RANDR made screen-size
and refresh-rate dynamic (after all X apps had them
static for ages) and why color-depth didn't make
it to the list of dynamic
On Sunday 23 January 2005 16:21, Offer Kaye wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:03:19 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
I think many distributions give you GUI utilities to customize the
XF86Config file. That's not the problem.
I couldn't find one built into KDE - I expected the desktop manager
to
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:36:31 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
I'm not sure that's the right place for it. You need root permissions to
modify /etc/X11/XF86Config. Putting it there does not make sense on Linux.
Don't think in such a linear fashion, Shlomi. Just because there is a
menu item or
Quoting Offer Kaye, from the post of Sun, 23 Jan:
sorry,
No you're not, not really. You feel I'm attacking your favourite OS
(I'm not)
attack at will. I'd like to think I'm a reasonable man and I can see the
same faults as you do. However you started this entire thread with
complaints
On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 10:26:55PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
Offer Kaye wrote:
I'm constantly checking out new software and almost every time I
can find it in Mandrake's repository (which is huge - currently standing
at just over 7GB just for the free version) or one of the other
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
From my experience, if you don't need the advanced features of apt,
especially automatic source build, then urpmi is a better tool.
What I most sorely miss with urpmi is a decent search capability.
Something like 'apt-cache search' . When you have gigs of software oyu
At Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:16:15 +0200,
Nadav Har'El wrote:
On Sat, Jan 22, 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote about Re: rant: changing color
depth:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:42:48PM -0500, Offer Kaye wrote:
rant
Year: 2005
Desktop: KDE 3.3.1
OS
At Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:53:05 +0200,
Offer Kaye wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:27:56 +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
or worse: every window
manager maker would have to include their own configuration tool.
There are over 300 distributions listed on distrowatch.com .
There are about 5 or 10
rant
Year: 2005
Desktop: KDE 3.3.1
OS: Mepis Linux
Ability to change color depth: nil. nada. ziltch. Unless I want to
edit some obscure text file and restart X (which means logging out,
which means all of my open applications get closed down).
I mean, come *on* people! What are we, in the dark
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:42:48PM -0500, Offer Kaye wrote:
rant
Year: 2005
Desktop: KDE 3.3.1
OS: Mepis Linux
Ability to change color depth: nil. nada. ziltch. Unless I want to
edit some obscure text file and restart X (which means logging out,
which means all of my open applications get
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:42:48PM -0500, Offer Kaye wrote:
rant
Year: 2005
Desktop: KDE 3.3.1
OS: Mepis Linux
Ability to change color depth: nil. nada. ziltch. Unless I want to
Why would you want to change colour depth?
Anyway, X protocol does not allow
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