r:
1. If somebody still not sure i believe it it's not only a spam but a
virus! (found it googling)
2. Why gmail not able to filter them correctly and block/put into spam
(clicked few times spam but no helped..)
3. Any way to get rid of them?
Tnx,
David
--
בברכה,
דוד רונקין
*נא בקרו
Kvm lite is not very interesting.
As for VirtualBox - if you want to run one VM, especially if you are on win
or mac, virtualbox is really cool.
Whenthe amount of VMs is measured in tens, id use KVM.
Gilad
Amos Shapira wrote:
2009/9/16 Arie Skliarouk :
Yes. We use xen heavily on CentOS 5 a
Hi,
We developed and support for years now a software product for tech support
centers that uses KVM as a hypervisor.
One installation at Canon in Japan runs 35 concurrent Vista/win2k/xp and
soon Win7 instances.
Each session is about a minute long (it is used by tech support people to
help them
Hi Gilad,
Have you heard of KVM-lite ? (KVM that doesn't require virtualization
features from processor)
In what sense "KVM rocks", do we have any benchmark of KVM versus
VirtualBox ?
I saw a post from Ingo Molnar stating that context number of context
switches in KVM reduced dramatically
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 15:53:10 geoffrey mendelson wrote:
> On Sep 16, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > I've never considered VirtualBox (or VMware, for that matter) for
> > anything except that it's included in Ubuntu for desktop, and it had a
> > very easy interface to setup Wind
How is KVM as a desktop? I mean in VMWare there is a special windows display
driver which makes it look very natural (and resizeable)
For a server I would also support KVM, the only bad thing I have to say
about it is its buggy PXE rom stack.
Ohad
2009/9/16 Gilad Ben-Yossef
> Amos Shapira wro
On Sep 16, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
I've never considered VirtualBox (or VMware, for that matter) for
anything except that it's included in Ubuntu for desktop, and it had a
very easy interface to setup Windows quickly.
I saw the reference to libvirt in the RHEL 5.4 announcement and
2009/9/16 Oron Peled :
> On Wednesday, 16 בSeptember 2009 00:24:16 Amos Shapira wrote:
>> Yes. We use xen heavily on CentOS 5 at work and am pretty excited that
>> RH 5.4 is out with KVM "preview tech", I'm not an expert but got the
>> impression that KVM might get things better than Xen eventually
On Wednesday, 16 בSeptember 2009 00:24:16 Amos Shapira wrote:
> Yes. We use xen heavily on CentOS 5 at work and am pretty excited that
> RH 5.4 is out with KVM "preview tech", I'm not an expert but got the
> impression that KVM might get things better than Xen eventually.
If your CPU support virtu
2009/9/16 Gilad Ben-Yossef :
> Don't mean to dis Xen or anyone, but...
>
> You can drop the "eventually". KVM rocks :-)
Care to give more details? Especially compared to Xen?
I googled for "kvm vs. xen" but all the links I found so far talk
about KVM's potential (and are a bit outdated).
A view b
Amos Shapira wrote:
2009/9/16 Arie Skliarouk :
Yes. We use xen heavily on CentOS 5 at work and am pretty excited that
RH 5.4 is out with KVM "preview tech", I'm not an expert but got the
impression that KVM might get things better than Xen eventually.
Don't mean to dis Xen or anyone, b
2009/9/16 Arie Skliarouk :
> Hi,
>
> Depends.
> Both Ubuntu and RedHat push KVM as the virtualization solution. IMHO it is
> the fastest from the three. It is also most open one.
Yes. We use xen heavily on CentOS 5 at work and am pretty excited that
RH 5.4 is out with KVM "preview tech", I'm not a
I'm using VMPlayer with Ubuntu running windows in a virtual machine and I
didn't need to do anything special to get audio running
I also like it very much that you can resize on the fly the virtual client,
very useful if you need to connect your server to an external beamer for
presentations etc.
Hi,
Depends.
Both Ubuntu and RedHat push KVM as the virtualization solution. IMHO it is
the fastest from the three. It is also most open one.
The free version of VirtualBox has no USB support but has excellent 3D
support, so it is ideal for games.
VMWare is ok, but I don't like it's integration
For me it works well with:
Ubuntu host + winXP 1GB guest + win7 1.5GB guest ( at the same time ).
--
Michael Ben-Nes - Internet Consultant and Director.
http://www.epoch.co.il - weaving the Net.
Cellular: 054-4848113
4GB should be enough. Right?
David Suna
da...@davidsconsultants.com
ronys wrote:
Hi,
Here's another vote for VirtualBox. Using it in both Windows host / Linux
guest, Linux(64bit) / Linux(32bit) and Linux / Windows. Integration with
host is excellent. Support is also quick & responsive.
Yo
Yes. However, they had a problem getting it to work as a web cam. It
automatically came up as a mass storage device. For me it is not even
coming up as a mass storage device.
David Suna
da...@davidsconsultants.com
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi David,
Did you see this? http://osdir.com/ml/lin
Geoff Shang wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I administer a server for a non-profit project. I need to implement
> an anti-spam solution to cut down on the spam. It is showing signs of
> getting out of hand and I'd like to put something in place before it
> does.
>
> I'd li
Hello,
I administer a server for a non-profit project. I need to implement an
anti-spam solution to cut down on the spam. It is showing signs of
getting out of hand and I'd like to put something in place before it does.
I'd like something that doesn't take too much
email address, and therefore I do
not suspect any wrongdoing from I-Limudim. I am not persuing this any
further, and in any case I made to them my point: Spam will not be
tolerated. No sense in bothering the company further when I do not
suspect that they intentionally broke Misrad Htikshoret laws
This is as much a note to myself for record keeping as to inform the list.
Just now a woman named Ayelet from I-Limudim called, she was
interested in knowing to which address the Israeli spam (email
advertising a paid service, from a company that I had never subscribed
to it's services or
> Dotan, well done. I suggest you to write a draft of the law suit and ask the
> help of emun hatzibur. They have lawyers and will help you to write it
> better. They won't go to the court with you, but they can give you the legal
> parts of the law, help you further http://www.emun.org/
>
Thank
> Just a note about lawyers and the spam law:
>
> The amounts awarded as part of the spam law are too small for a lawyer to
> be able to take on the case and make a profit. Even when working with
> non-profit lawyers (such as, I am guessing, Emun Hazibur), the amounts are
> still
http://www.emun.org/
Just a note about lawyers and the spam law:
The amounts awarded as part of the spam law are too small for a lawyer
to be able to take on the case and make a profit. Even when working with
non-profit lawyers (such as, I am guessing, Emun Hazibur), the amounts
are still only really rel
May 7, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Yedidyah Bar-David <
linux...@didi.bardavid.org> wrote:
> On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 12:29:02PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > 2009/5/7 Shachar Shemesh :
> > > Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > >
> > > I just got a nice bit of spam, for a paid serv
Dotan Cohen wrote:
A representative of the company called me back, she is very concerned
about the incident. It was a third-party advertising agency that sent
the spam and the rep sounds _angry_. As my goal is to fight spam in
Israel, and not to make a quick shekel, I am more than happy to help
els of
> damages, there is a greater chance of receiving those if you showed you did
> everything you could to not spend the time and money of going to court in
> the first place.
>
> Your final court approach should be something like:
> 1000 sheqels - statutory damages for sending spa
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 12:29:02PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/5/7 Shachar Shemesh :
> > Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >
> > I just got a nice bit of spam, for a paid service, in Hebrew, to an
> > obviously-harvested address! That sounds like a cool 1000 NIS to me.
>
On Thursday, 7 בMay 2009 08:32, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I just got a nice bit of spam, for a paid service, in Hebrew, to an
> obviously-harvested address! That sounds like a cool 1000 NIS to me.
> Does anyone know to whom to complain to collect?
>
> Naturally, half of it will be don
did everything you could to not spend the time
and money of going to court in the first place.
Your final court approach should be something like:
1000 sheqels - statutory damages for sending spam
70 sheqels - claims fee (the money you pay to post the claim - I'm not
sure how much it
> Sounds like good stuff for ongoing report in blog posts...
> I wonder if they even answer you without the court order.
>
I just called the company (got three different numbers to call, nobody
wants to handle this) and left a message that I recorded, offering to
accept the 1000 NIS without going
Hi!
Dotan Cohen wrote:
2009/5/7 Shachar Shemesh :
Dotan Cohen wrote:
I just got a nice bit of spam, for a paid service, in Hebrew, to an
obviously-harvested address! That sounds like a cool 1000 NIS to me.
Does anyone know to whom to complain to collect?
There is no-one to complain to
2009/5/7 Shachar Shemesh :
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> I just got a nice bit of spam, for a paid service, in Hebrew, to an
> obviously-harvested address! That sounds like a cool 1000 NIS to me.
> Does anyone know to whom to complain to collect?
>
> Naturally, half of it will
Dotan Cohen wrote:
I just got a nice bit of spam, for a paid service, in Hebrew, to an
obviously-harvested address! That sounds like a cool 1000 NIS to me.
Does anyone know to whom to complain to collect?
Naturally, half of it will be donated to hamakor.
There is no-one to complain to
I just got a nice bit of spam, for a paid service, in Hebrew, to an
obviously-harvested address! That sounds like a cool 1000 NIS to me.
Does anyone know to whom to complain to collect?
Naturally, half of it will be donated to hamakor.
--
Dotan Cohen
http://what-is-what.com
http
Quoting Ira Abramov, from the post of Sun, 15 Feb:
> If anyone asks you about Jaya, "The Linux Group", Miky Barzilay or the
> little "community conference" he's organizing, just give them a heads
> up. It may be a legitimate, professional business, but the guy practices
> dirty marketing, so he's g
Ira,
Ira Abramov wrote:
FYI and FWIMC, I just removed two links from the Hebrew Wikipedia
article "Linux" that pointed to a little consultancy firm called Jaya
who seems to be all into SAP and hates RHAT for some odd reason. The
website seems two weeks old, based on the Forum entries.
I kn
Here is what they posted about two weeks ago -
http://whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=6258
Jaya is the same of linux-israel. Don't look too confused, I don't know
anyone who is using their website, but seems that someone actually using
their services. Still, I am a
FYI and FWIMC, I just removed two links from the Hebrew Wikipedia
article "Linux" that pointed to a little consultancy firm called Jaya
who seems to be all into SAP and hates RHAT for some odd reason. The
website seems two weeks old, based on the Forum entries.
Times are tough, competition is fear
That's an interesting project for ISOC+Hamakor to collaborate on, and
for all the new unemployed software people to tackle... getting payed
for fighting Email annoyances? Super... I can supply you with proof and
logs about how my server is keeling over, and spamassassin taking
precious CPU cy
Amit Aronovitch wrote:
According to a couple of recent Hebrew spams that I got, there's a
loophole allowing ONE spam message per spammer per email address. They
say that the law allows sending one message if it is an offer for
registration to a publicity list (they can't send you m
According to a couple of recent Hebrew spams that I got, there's a loophole
allowing ONE spam message per spammer per email address. They say that the
law allows sending one message if it is an offer for registration to a
publicity list (they can't send you more if you do not re
On Sunday 08 February 2009 23:42:54 b...@rymland.com wrote:
> > The only down side is that in small claims you have to file and appear
> > yourself, without a lawyer. This is basically the reason I haven't done
>
> it
>
> > yet.
> That's exactly the reason why I haven't done it myself as well. The
Nadav Har'El wrote:
What do you do in such a case?
Sue.
The law specifically says that the person in charge of marketing must
make a personal effort to make sure that the company is spam free, or
face PERSONAL consequences.
In any case, like I said before, it's up to the spamme
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew
spam: what to do about it?":
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> >
> >Well, I find that hard to believe. You will eventually have to prove
> >that you received the SPAM from them. and that you
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:24:34AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
The law is very specific that having your name appearing on the spam
as the one being advertised is sufficient evidence that you are the
presumed spammer. I imagine that, should the spammer want to
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:24:34AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
The law is very specific that having your name appearing on the spam as
the one being advertised is sufficient evidence that you are the
presumed spammer. I imagine that, should the spammer want to claim they
are not, the burden
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Well, I find that hard to believe. You will eventually have to prove
that you received the SPAM from them. and that you did not alter it in
any way.
The law is very specific that having your name appearing on the spam as
the one being advertised is sufficient
b...@rymland.com wrote:
That's exactly the reason why I haven't done it myself as well. The
necessity to appear in court
which means taking a day off or something.
You can add that cost to the claim.
A few complimentary questions:
1) Have anyone heard of successful small claims suits so far
off or something.
> >
> > A few complimentary questions:
> > 1) Have anyone heard of successful small claims suits so far? Is it that
> > easy, straight-forward and
> > pretty sure to have a win?
> >
>
Generally or specifically on spam?
> &g
Omer Zak wrote:
>From the contents of a relatively unfiltered mailbox (which fortunately
is not widely advertised and I check it only once each few weeks),
Leiberman indeed uses very much the political exemption.
I got in that mailbox a lot of spam from:
* Israel Beitanu (Leiberman'
> to get 1,000 NIS for every incoming hebrew spam. Think about it as a gift
> from a stranger. The process is documented on the isoc site (link was
> given
> in some other post in this thread). Remember you have to prove very
little
>
> (that you got the spam) while they have to p
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 09:18:13PM -0800, Aviram Jenik wrote:
to get 1,000 NIS for every incoming hebrew spam. Think about it as a gift
from a stranger. The process is documented on the isoc site (link was given
in some other post in this thread). Remember you have to prove very little
(that
Tal Kaplan, from pczlaw, was kind enough to give me a detailed explanation(*)
about this matter.
First, to answer both Dotan and Boaz, it should be a relatively simple process
to get 1,000 NIS for every incoming hebrew spam. Think about it as a gift
from a stranger. The process is documented
Similarly, due to time constraints I'm not currently performing any
active steps with the several spam emails that I have received lately,
all from some coaching/spiritual spammer.
If there's a lawyer or someone with enough spare time on his hands in
the crowd who wishes to raise
>From the contents of a relatively unfiltered mailbox (which fortunately
is not widely advertised and I check it only once each few weeks),
Leiberman indeed uses very much the political exemption.
I got in that mailbox a lot of spam from:
* Israel Beitanu (Leiberman's party) - sends tons
> The way the current law defines spam is as a message that induces you to
> spend money. So spam calling for donations is also illegal. Promoting
> causes, such as asking for signatures for Gilad Shalit, or banning silicon
> from dairy products, is legal.
>
So a spam campaign abn
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 10:25:53AM +0200, ronys wrote:
>
> Indeed it's legal. When the anti-spam law was passed, a special
> exemption was put in to allow politicians to send spam.
Not only politicians.
Here's a conspiracy theory for you:
We all know that ISOC is an NP
Quoting Dotan Cohen :
It needs to be commercial to be illegal.
Really? If I have a website that I don't make money off of, like
gibberish.co.il then can I send spam? I'll do it too, not in order to
promote the site but in order to get the law changed.
There is no chance that th
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 07:11:59AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Shachar seems to suggest that this might be used for a small claims
court case in which the spammer may be sued for up to 1000 NIS per
email.
Does this only cover email from Israel, or can it be SPAM
> It needs to be commercial to be illegal.
>
Really? If I have a website that I don't make money off of, like
gibberish.co.il then can I send spam? I'll do it too, not in order to
promote the site but in order to get the law changed.
--
Dotan Cohen
http://what-
Indeed it's legal. When the anti-spam law was passed, a special exemption was
put in to allow politicians to send spam.
IIRC, this was Leiberman's initiative.
Rony
-Original Message-
From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On
Behal
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 09:25:51AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > Slightly off-topic: I got annoyed by political spam that was sent to my
> > work address (at least 4 messages, with a considerable size) Result:
> > blacklisted mailing list messages from their provider (and no
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 07:11:59AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Shachar seems to suggest that this might be used for a small claims
court case in which the spammer may be sued for up to 1000 NIS per
email.
Does this only cover email from Israel, or can it be SPAM from Israeli
companies sent
> Shachar seems to suggest that this might be used for a small claims
> court case in which the spammer may be sued for up to 1000 NIS per
> email.
>
I'll donate the 1000 NIS right back into anti-spam efforts or to KDE
or something.
> Slightly off-topic: I got annoyed by pol
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 08:57:06AM +0200, sammy ominsky wrote:
> On 08/02/2009, at 08:23, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
>
>> Anyone who got spam from "Rinat Zoref" and kept it is welcome to email
>> me in private.
>> Also, anyone who got spam from "divur.lasakim&qu
On 08/02/2009, at 08:23, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Anyone who got spam from "Rinat Zoref" and kept it is welcome to
email me in private.
Also, anyone who got spam from "divur.lasakim", likewise.
And, whatever you do, KEEP THOSE EMAILS. I keep all of the Hebrew
(and Israel
Dotan Cohen wrote:
I have started getting Hebrew spam again, even now that the new
anti-spam law is in place. Sure, I _could_ just filter it, but I would
prefer to make life miserable for the spammers, even at my own
expense. What legal tools do I have?
Anyone who got spam from "Rinat
2009/2/7 sara fink :
> I have a booklet from emun hatzibur with the law. They also have an example
> how to file a law suit against spammers (see the last pages) of the
> attachment. Sorry for the hebrew mismatch in the name of the file.
>
Thank you Sara, I will read that tomorrow.
> BTW, send m
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:35:19PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I have started getting Hebrew spam again, even now that the new
> anti-spam law is in place. Sure, I _could_ just filter it, but I would
> prefer to make life miserable for the spammers, even at my own
> expense. What lega
I have started getting Hebrew spam again, even now that the new
anti-spam law is in place. Sure, I _could_ just filter it, but I would
prefer to make life miserable for the spammers, even at my own
expense. What legal tools do I have?
--
Dotan Cohen
http://what-is-what.com
http
2008/12/10 Saba Moshe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> An even more sane format is [YY]YYMMDD{HH[MM[SS]]]. Put it in front of
> your filename and the files will be listed not only alphabetically but
> chronologically, too.
>
> And Dotan, the middle-endian format for American watches is MM SS HH
> (the bigges
An even more sane format is [YY]YYMMDD{HH[MM[SS]]]. Put it in front of
your filename and the files will be listed not only alphabetically but
chronologically, too.
And Dotan, the middle-endian format for American watches is MM SS HH
(the biggest unit is the last and _not_ the first).
Saba Moshe
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:36:37PM +0200, Omer Zak wrote:
The Japanese system of -MM-DD is the best one. I personally use a
modified variety (-MMM-DD which is not ambiguous) whenever I am free
to set the date format.
However for many years the Japanese used a dating system from the
co
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:24:51PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I hate that format! Tbird and OOo _insist_ on using that format and it
steers me wrong every time! Do American watches use a HH:SS:MM
format?!? I have never heard of a middle-endian format being used in
any other context!
It's a left
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 16:24 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/12/10 Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Looks like maybe someone along the chain to Dotan has mixed up
> > American date format (MM/DD/) with the sane format (DD/MM/).
> >
>
> I hate that format! Tbird and OOo _insist_ on usi
2008/12/10 Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Looks like maybe someone along the chain to Dotan has mixed up
> American date format (MM/DD/) with the sane format (DD/MM/).
>
I hate that format! Tbird and OOo _insist_ on using that format and it
steers me wrong every time! Do American watc
2008/12/10 Herouth Maoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>
>> I think that the law goes into effect on January 12. At least, that's
>> what all the spam messages say.
>
> Don't trust spammers. The law went into effect on Decemeber 1st. Any spammer
> sending an
2008/12/9 Herouth Maoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Don't trust spammers. The law went into effect on Decemeber 1st. Any spammer
> sending any unsolicited mail to you now is violating the law.
>
> http://law.co.il/articles/spam/2008/11/12/israeli-anti-spam-law/ (Hebrew)
>
T
I think that the law goes into effect on January 12. At least, that's
what all the spam messages say.
Don't trust spammers. The law went into effect on Decemeber 1st. Any
spammer sending any unsolicited mail to you now is violating the law.
http://law.co.il/articles/spam/
2008/12/9 Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> During December (since the anti-spam law came into force), I received so
> far three E-mail messages from Daily Maily, without giving them
> permission to continue to E-mail me.
>
> Is there anyone who is organizing a group lawsuit a
> During December (since the anti-spam law came into force), I
> received so
> > far three E-mail messages from Daily Maily, without giving them
> > permission to continue to E-mail me.
> >
> If you ever went to one of those free
2008/12/9 Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Omer Zak wrote:
>
> During December (since the anti-spam law came into force), I received so
> far three E-mail messages from Daily Maily, without giving them
> permission to continue to E-mail me.
>
>
> If you
Omer Zak wrote:
During December (since the anti-spam law came into force), I received so
far three E-mail messages from Daily Maily, without giving them
permission to continue to E-mail me.
If you ever went to one of those free people & Computers events, such as
Go Linux, you signe
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 09:28:42AM +0200, Omer Zak wrote:
> During December (since the anti-spam law came into force), I received so
> far three E-mail messages from Daily Maily, without giving them
> permission to continue to E-mail me.
>
> Is there anyone who is organizing
During December (since the anti-spam law came into force), I received so
far three E-mail messages from Daily Maily, without giving them
permission to continue to E-mail me.
Is there anyone who is organizing a group lawsuit against them?
At any case, can anyone recommend a guide exactly what
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 16:26 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Omer Zak wrote:
> >
> > Shachar (Lingnu CEO): can you open a PayPal account (or equivalent) to
> > collect money from private people? Or do you have another mechanism to
> > deal with, say, 300 small payments?
> >
> >
> PayPal is fine.
2008/8/17 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
>>
>> his two brothers are married to two sisters of my wife's brother wife. No,
>> I'm not making this up
>
> Forget making it up. What does it mean? :-)
>
That the family tree grows straight up.
--
Dotan Cohen
http://wha
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
his two brothers are married to two sisters of my wife's brother wife.
No, I'm not making this up
Forget making it up. What does it mean? :-)
Shachar
=
To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Omer Zak wrote:
Does anyone know anything about the following spammer?
According to whois, the penguin-it.co.il domain is owned by:
descr:yaron berenholtz adv
descr:12 menahem begin st'
descr:ramat gan
descr:52521
descr:Israel
phone
I received also a personal E-mail message from Doron Ofek with about the
same actual information and an (unneeded, because the spammer was not
him personally - but a nice gesture nevertheless) apology.
Can anyone with journalistic leanings pick up the story and publicize it
in a place like whatsup
Omer Zak wrote:
Does anyone know anything about the following spammer?
According to whois, the penguin-it.co.il domain is owned by:
descr:yaron berenholtz adv
descr:12 menahem begin st'
descr:ramat gan
descr:52521
descr:Israel
phone:+972 3 6122111
Omer Zak wrote:
Does anyone know anything about the following spammer?
According to whois, the penguin-it.co.il domain is owned by:
descr:yaron berenholtz adv
descr:12 menahem begin st'
descr:ramat gan
descr:52521
descr:Israel
phone:+972 3 6122111
f
Does anyone know anything about the following spammer?
According to whois, the penguin-it.co.il domain is owned by:
descr:yaron berenholtz adv
descr:12 menahem begin st'
descr:ramat gan
descr:52521
descr:Israel
phone:+972 3 6122111
fax-no: +972
On 28/07/2008, at 08:04, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
I was involved with a start-up ISP that was to provide free access via
WiFi. The money for basic access and infrastructure was to come from
advertising.
I was also, in the US. I don't know what the financial plan was, just
the technical
2008/7/28 Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ deleted for bravity]
As usual - your historic reviews are an interesting and educative read even
for those of us who saw some of this action. Thanks!
The startup you are reffering to AFAIK is FON from Spain, which allows
> you to get credit by
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:02:46PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
>
> As far as I remember, the first time I heard about the option for meshed
> ISP's it was a for-profit organisation allowing clients to ramp up credits
> for their own use by allowing others to make use of their own uplink via
> WiFi.
2008/7/27 Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I noticed that there were no comments about mesh networks with
> WiFi/packet forwarding. Such things are inherently non-profit.
Are they?
As far as I remember, the first time I heard about the option for meshed
ISP's it was a for-profit organisation all
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 17:30 +0300, Imri Zvik wrote:
> While it is theoretically possible to setup a non-profit ISP, it is not
> practical.
> It takes A LOT of money to run an ISP - just the submarine uplinks costs a
> couple of hundred K's of $ per month, and even if you manage to get a serious
ECTED] בשם Omer Zak
Date: Sat 26/07/2008 11:16
To: linux-il
Subject: Spam handling (was: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting)
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 00:05 +0300, Ariel Biener wrote:
> 1. SPAM is here to stay, mostly due to human nature. For people who want to
> sell something, this is an ea
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