, and go to bed. This morning
gnome2 was ready to roll.
Other than an expanded working set and maybe 1% extra cpu, not much of
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Reading Will Durant's big multivolume history,
[ lots snipped ]
The nrxt week was: False Gods of the 21st Century - Democracy.
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Collins wrote:
Over the weekend I put up Slackware 8.1 and ran for a couple of
days.
2) I couldn't get the precompiled kernel to recognize my ethernet
card even after loading tulip, so I had to move over my
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Good luck with Slack.
Thanks.
I have 2 cdroms , one a dvd, and one a cd-rw. The dvd is hooked up
for music cds, but I can't seem to make it work in Slack yet.
I may give gentoo a try after
manual.
I haven't heard any horror stories; this is good stuff.
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did. A few more features like dhcp and the network script, but that's
about it. Slack is Slack.
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5) On a scale of 1-10, I'd give Slack at least an 8.
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that need modifications. Granted, you can usually find a user forum
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:47:46 +1000 Keith Antoine
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On Monday 10 June 2002 12:05 pm, Collins enshrined in prose:
In case you haven't seen the news, Colorado is in the grips of the
worst drouth in 100 years, and there are forest fires burning all
over the state. Today
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:30:14 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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| It must be a rough day for those with respiratory problems.
especially if they don't have gentoo.g
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standard - well worth a try.
Gentoo - a new departure - totally from sources, lengthy install
process.
RedHat - why not, every one else is.
Libranet - to give you an exposure to debian where GNU/LINUX is writ
large.
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[snip]
You left out the best learning tool (in my
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with respiratory problems.
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On June 7, 2002 04:11 pm, Collins wrote:
kde and qt are a pain in the butt on any distro. I've been
watching the messages fly by (broken, fixed, etc.), but it hasn't
become stable enough that I wanted to try
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On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 00:18:47 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On June 7, 2002 04:11 pm, Collins wrote:
kde and qt are a pain
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 08:34:32 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On June 8, 2002 06:09 am, Collins wrote:
just curious, what ver of gcc are you using?
glibc-2.2.5-r4
Okay. That's glibc. What about gcc (gcc --version)?
gcc-2.95.3-r5
A well seasoned
and running on moz 1, and it seems to be aok. I never
use anything but the browser, so I wouldn't know about the mail/news
stuff. I haven't had a failure in 6-8 months.
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dang speaker volume was
turned half way up. Sheesh!
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with the compiler developers to help
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Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 03:21:49 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell
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Kurt Wall [EMAIL
, I think linux developers should worry more
about providing the functionality needed to make linux viable in the
desktop/office market and then worry about bloat.
My $.02 (or maybe it's only $.01 today).
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On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:56:57 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Every step has gone off wouthout a hitch (once I figured out and
Collins pointed out the change to make.conf) However, kdelibs-3.0.1
barfs during compile.
XFCE comes up nicely (this will be the default) but I do need
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It seems that I have the basic
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that bloody virus with fdisk. In its space I'll try
Gentoo.
Collins did you have any probs with the initial emerge rsync?
None whatsoever after seting up the ethn for dhcp. My box has two
NICs and the installer wants to recognize the NIC I have connected to
my lan as eth1 rather than eth0. Once
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:21:04 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that I have the basic Gentoo installed (luv that ADSL) next
step is to get the X stuff along with XFCE and continue on with the
show.
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at 2.4.18 as default kernel still boots up in
2.4.13, real wierd.
Post your grub menu.lst. Also did you really copy over the kernel you
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On Fri, 31 May 2002 20:22:44 -0600
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2 Reading the writeups about Libranet, etc., I always came to the
conclusion that the package offerings were too damn old.
Old and Stable
is pretty easy to use, but
it's not extremely well documented.
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to put that back together again.
That's all folks!
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On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:15:02 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On June 1, 2002 07:10 am, Collins wrote:
but the kde and gnome biggots are welcome, too.
Collins, I thought you were more intelligent then that!
Not me. I even load up kde occasionally just to see what progress
I understand that gimp (and other packages can do this), but how does
one go about doing this? For example, I have several desktops. How
do I identify what to capture to gimp (or pick a package) without
messing up the display I want to capture?
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On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 09:12:40 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On June 1, 2002 08:32 am, Collins wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:15:02 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On June 1, 2002 07:10 am, Collins wrote:
but the kde and gnome biggots are welcome, too.
Collins
mouse button. filesave as select file
/mnt/floppy/ or other file. Bang whiz and it's done
Collins wrote:
I understand that gimp (and other packages can do this), but how
does one go about doing this? For example, I have several
desktops. How do I identify what to capture to gimp
install even back then.
5 Not that I'm really looking. I'm quite happy with my collinstoo
distro, as Skippy calls it.
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Scribbling feverishly on May 29, Collins managed to emit:
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Dep,
You gotta do what you gotta do, but I gotta say that flashing ad
banner
variety that draw away from the content of the screen. Even sites
like Linux Today employ banner ads; they just aren't quite as
obnoxious.
sigh
What I need is a good intelligent filter that can extract the main
content from a web page on the fly and leave the cruft behind.
/sigh
Collins Richey
are they aligning themselves with an unlucky player?
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Dep,
You gotta do what you gotta do, but I gotta say that flashing ad
banner at the top of your page is total and absolute sh*t. I don't
think I will visit this site again.
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On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:56:40 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell
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Collins
trying to put gentoo on a laptop,
AST P series MMX 150 P I
2 gig HD 32 meg Mem soon to be 80 meg.
got the 137953280 May 25 00:15 gentoo-i686-1.1a.iso
and used cdrecord to cdrom I get
system
with no X or desktop support. Except for the Beyond LFS (google for
that) effort, you had to roll your own support for X, etc.
On a side note, I found the LFS book to be a useful if tedious summary
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[ snips ]
On Sun, 26 May 2002 07:04:32 -0600 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Sunday 26 May 2002 12:49, Lee wrote:
Don't know what kind of mb you have, but I had the same problem
with an Intel mb with 810e
) and the
minimalists who don't need all the extra crap.
Needless to say, I haven't regretted removing kde and gnome from my
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I think Skippy is just trying to tell me what we all learned along
the way. Caldera was never especially good at providing updates
(except
is the address of the partition with
/boot/grub partition in grub terminology, i.e. hda2 = hd0,1
root (hd0,1)
setup (hd0)
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or Debian
(updates for most things available), Slackware (somewhat fewer
choices. Or gentoo (if you can tolerate updates from source), but I'm
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On Fri, 17 May 2002 09:03:14 -0500 David A. Bandel
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linuxbooks
Yes, yes, yes. We can't wait! (but obviously we will)
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On Fri, 17 May 2002 18:15:19 -0400 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday 17 May 2002 18:04 pm, Collins wrote:
If there's any interest, I can post instructions for downloading
from CVS, etc.
Wonder how long it will take for my xfce advocacy to strike a raw
nerve grin
to be a Caldera biggot, but now I'm a gentoo biggot. I've
learned more skills (most of which are generic) since moving up to
gentoo than at any time in the past. Also, I have a more stable and
more easily upgradable system than I ever had with Caldera 2.4
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. I'm glad I don't
need that right now. Like everything else with gentoo, installing to
a laptop is a one-time painful scenario. After that it's all gold.
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On Mon, 13 May 2002 08:08:13 -0400 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Monday 13 May 2002 0:34 am, Collins wrote:
Dep,
Not that I want to pee on your cornflakes, but you must be smoking
pretty good weed to come up with that idea!
What you want is gentoo - onetime pain
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Done deal. I'll be silent.
I hope you'll continue to speak up.
While I agree generally with the criticisms aimed at some of your
comments (which criticisms seem to have provoked your above remark
4) Follow steps 5-8 above.
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was supposed to be?
It was! but did not turn out that way.
My crumbly bain cells seem to remember that I liked 3.1 Beta pretty
well, but about that time I discovered several other distros that
worked equally well, so I never bellied up to the bar for 3.1 released
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and with minimal effort
distribute that. You could use the gentoo CD for booting, generating
a filesystem, etc., then provide instructions how to untar you
tarballs and modify the setup to complete a working system.
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ROTFLMAO - this is Windows to the core!
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clueless newbie). I can remember in the (Thank God!) distant past
when members used to pounce with glee on newbies who didn't even
understand how to report a problem. Make friends not enemies seems to
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On Thu, 9 May 2002 21:06:14 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 9 May 2002 21:59:55 -0600
Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 09 May 2002 18:38:40 -0700 Net Llama!
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I wouldn't touch Debian with a 10ft stick. Way too many
religious zealots
the gentoo logo to a pair of tail
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On Thu, 09 May 2002 19:57:20 -0700 Net Llama!
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I should add, that I use XFS on every new box I build. Its a joy
tonot have to worry about the filesystem anymore. I've got 1
May 2002, Tony Alfrey wrote:
Maybe it's time for Keith to get to work on his long-overdue
Skippy-Linux?
I dunno, Bestfoods, here in the USA, would probably sue for
copyright
infringement.
How about Tuna Light, no brand names. Sorry, Charlie!
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On Fri, 10 May 2002 18:20:05 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Libranet recommendations abound. The last time I checked (many
moons ago), libranet still propounded the old-time religion,
i.e. hopelessly behind
, but Mandrake's gui
installer worked just fine.
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Yes, it's a tight market everywhere.
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There is no perfect distro. You pays you money (hopefully little),
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depends on your viewpoint. It works 100% for me, and for the
most part I'm not even aware it's there.
As the old Potshot cartoon on my fridge says: (Man looking across a
canyon to someone on the other rim): Come over to my side; the view
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same crappy install process, same overall look, so I trashed it, since
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integrity failures from time to time, but what you're dealing with is
a total crap shoot. Consider yourself lucky if you don't roll
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production environment, however, I'd use XFS.
On my desktop system, I've had nothing but good results from ext3.
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I have an older laptop coming, a compac. It has a 1 gig hd and
can have 40 meg memory. At this time I have no cdrom
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Looks cool, but gentoo is the last notch on my belt. My system is
100% up to date and likely to stay that way.
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Great news - gentoo is now available from cheapbytes.
I just put gentoo on my laptop. I compiled
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Great news - gentoo is now available from cheapbytes.
I just put gentoo on my laptop. I compiled
Great news - gentoo is now available from cheapbytes.
You folks with slow internet connections now have one less excuse
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, and it only set me back about $100 at Best Buy.
Ditto that configuration for me with a Netgear RT314 - cheaper but no
firewall. On markdown at Best Buy.
Netgear = Good Gear. I'm still using tulip NICs that came with a
Netgear switch several years ago.
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On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:40:16 -0400 Douglas J Hunley
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hunley
Looks aok, but the line under the www.linux-sxs on the right is still
in too tiny a font to be legible.
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:58:47 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Collins wrote:
Has anyone else noticed a problem with mozilla ( I'm using
0.9.9) recording bookmarks?
It seems that most of the time when you select bookmards - add
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or sylpheed.good-day.net (total failure, frames I presume). Partial
failure but still usable on other common sites like www.kde.org.
I'd give it a grade of B-, but it's still better than nothing when
you're down and X-less.
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 21:47:54 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On April 17, 2002 07:55 pm, Collins wrote:
Being a dedicated xfce-sylpheed fan, who cares grin. But then I
did the test anyway. Kmail 3.0 starts in about 10 seconds
(dragging in all the KDE framework), then about 3
. But
since xfce starts in about 3 seconds, and sylpheed starts in about 2
seconds, I'm not worried.
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. It is a normal convention to use /abolute/path/name in cron
scripts.
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doesn't help much. ;-)
Kurt,
How about posting your xdm setup. I wanted to use xdm, but I never
could find any way to use it other than to hard code xfce as a choice.
Do you have xdm setup such that you can choose different window
managers and a shutdown to bare console?
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) primarily for experienced linux administrators, but that hasn't
stopped lots of newbies from climbing aboard.
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On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 11:57:01 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 23:09:05 -0700 Philip J. Koenig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Apr 2002, at 23:02, Brett I.
Holcomb boldly uttered:
Well, Konq is one reason I left KDE
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 15:02:41 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 13, Collins managed to emit:
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[mondo snippage]
[ continued snippage ]
Why don't the developers fix the current problems before propagating
them to the next release?
Maybe
will replaced the stripped-down
desktops like xfce or blackbox.
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