Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-22 Thread Aaron Grewell
> > Again, what business would rely on software and support supplied in > their spare time by out of work programmers asking for donations? What > if the pilot-link page just went away? The lack of support for USB PDA's > by the distros (I would be happy to hear if SUSE or Redhat support USB > PDA'

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-22 Thread Net Llama!
Joel, no offense, but you don't seem to remotely understand how open source development works. If companies are that concerned over the continuing devlopment of jpilot or any other project, they usually hire the developer to ensure that it continues. This is what has occured in many many cases (k

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-22 Thread Joel Hammer
Just checking the threads on pilot-link for a problem I have with install-datebook. The maintainer of that webpage was unemployed for over a year, and was asking for a few small donations to maintain the domain name. It doesn't sound like any businesses are supporting pilot-link. [They have collect

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Start-> Control Panel->Network -> Local properties (or new if you don't have one). Then click on properties and select TCP/IP and configure it. For the computer name Control Panel->System-> Computer name. MS doesn't have a clue on how to do anything right. They are still in the Win3.1 mindse

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-14 Thread ronnie gauthier
t click and explore the properties of them all. On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:11:53 -0500 - Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Zaire still won't connect >Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > >> First you don't use the wizards . You do it via the control panel. >

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-14 Thread Michael Hipp
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: First you don't use the wizards . You do it via the control panel. If this were the XP-users list, I'd ask you how to do that. Everything I touch brings up one of those horrid wizards full of questions written by Hannibal Lectre. Michael __

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
First you don't use the wizards . You do it via the control panel. But you are correct - XP is a mess. They even munged up file sharing setup in this version and they split the domain name out of the control panel/network setup and moved it into the control panel/system! Michael Hipp wrote:

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-14 Thread Michael Hipp
David A. Bandel wrote: XP is so frustrating, the first time I saw it at a clients' site, 20 minutes later I gave up trying to figure out how the fsck to configure networking (the twisty maze of incoherent questions in the networking wizard had me so confused I just told the client they were on thei

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-14 Thread bof
Joel Hammer wrote: Still trying to get my Zaire to connect via usb. Just love progress! All I get is this: J-Pilot: press the hotsync button on the cradle or "kill 4181" I have the same problem with my Sony CLIE NX60 under RH 7.3. From what I have gleaned from the j-pilot list archives, I

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Joel Hammer
> Enjoy Windoze. My mother (age 83+) hates it and thinks Linux is great. I will wager that your mother doesn't own a PDA with a usb port. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Joel Hammer
I think everything I said in my post is factual. It may even help someone who is thinking about connecting his PDA to a linux box via usb. To summarize: You need an uptodate kernel. This will be a rebuild so you'll need a working gcc, or a reinstall of your whole syst

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:31:53 -0400 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > > Yes. I supose he'll say that if linux doesn't catch on > with the desktop. If it does catch on, I am sure the tune > will be different. MS certainly seems to think linux is > a desktop t

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Michael Hipp: > Joel Hammer wrote: > >Problem is, there is no > >good choice for an office suite aside from staroffice in linuxland. > > I think these guys are the ones to watch: > http://www.softmaker.de/index,en.htm Ayup. Kurt -- Immigration is the sincerest form of flattery.

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Joel Hammer: > I do have pilot link. It can be made to work. But, I see no way to integrate > pilot-link with jpilot, unless this cryptic note is supposed to tell me how > to do it (from the jpilot documentation.) > > USB Palms (m series) and Sony Clies will work, but require > pil

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Joel Hammer wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 05:18:49PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: >> On 07/13/03 17:00, Joel Hammer wrote: >> Koffice hasn't gone anywhere. Whether it sux is another story, but you >> seem to be confusing staying power with usefulness. > > Koffice is still being develo

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Sunday 13 July 2003 21:31 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 05:18:49PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: > > On 07/13/03 17:00, Joel Hammer wrote: > > Koffice hasn't gone anywhere. Whether it sux is another story, but > > you seem to be confusing staying power with usefulness. > >

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Joel Hammer
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 05:18:49PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: > On 07/13/03 17:00, Joel Hammer wrote: > Koffice hasn't gone anywhere. Whether it sux is another story, but you > seem to be confusing staying power with usefulness. Koffice is still being developed, I guess, but who

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Susan Macchia: > OK, here is my $.02 and knowledge of jpilot, pilot-link, etc. No flames please. No flames here. > At this point, I don't believe that pilot-link works with usb connections (but > some folks have had luck, I believe). This is not the case. I use jpilot for my Palm m515 at w

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Michael Hipp
Joel Hammer wrote: Problem is, there is no good choice for an office suite aside from staroffice in linuxland. I think these guys are the ones to watch: http://www.softmaker.de/index,en.htm Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubsc

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Susan Macchia
OK, here is my $.02 and knowledge of jpilot, pilot-link, etc. No flames please. I have been using jpilot for over a year or more now (Since 0.99.2) and have NEVER had any issue. I am on the jpilot user list and have nothing but good things to day about the help I get there when I need it. First,

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/13/03 17:28, Joel Hammer wrote: I do have pilot link. It can be made to work. But, I see no way to integrate pilot-link with jpilot, unless this cryptic note is supposed to tell me how to do it (from the jpilot documentation.) USB Palms (m series) and Sony Clies will work, but require

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Joel Hammer
I do have pilot link. It can be made to work. But, I see no way to integrate pilot-link with jpilot, unless this cryptic note is supposed to tell me how to do it (from the jpilot documentation.) USB Palms (m series) and Sony Clies will work, but require pilot-link 0.10.1 or greater, whic

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/13/03 17:00, Joel Hammer wrote: I do use StarOffice. I have been using that since I started with linux several years ago. I tried others, but this one is the only one that works and which seems to have staying power. Koffice hasn't gone anywhere. Whether it sux is another story, but you see

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Joel Hammer
I do use StarOffice. I have been using that since I started with linux several years ago. I tried others, but this one is the only one that works and which seems to have staying power. Part of my ranting about linux advocates is that from the beginning, staroffice was dumped on by the elites. You

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, turns out I have pilot-link installed. Hard to know if it is working, since the pilot-link site didn't have any documentation for using their fine product on prominent display. Couldn't find anything in the jpilot page about integrating jpilot and pilot-link. I did manage to get pilot-xfer t

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Well, I haven't used Koffice for about two years but at that time it was way behind StarOffice or OpenOffice. At the time I was running KDE so I decided to try Koffice. What a waste - it couldn't do much of the basics for spreadsheets at all. I then tried OpenOffice (this was a beta around 6

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/13/03 14:17, Joel Hammer wrote: So it's either Excel in windows or StarOffice in linux for the forseeable future. Dirty capitalists pigs. $DEITY forbid you try OpenOffice. -- ~ L. Friedman

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Joel Hammer
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 09:36:35PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: > The other is koffice, the opensource > answer to MS. I have never found Koffice useful. Don't linux advocates > get worried ? Well, I felt guilty because I hadn't tried Koffice in a while. So, I downloaded it from the warehouse.

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread ronnie gauthier
I forgot about that, yup, doubt it would work. On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:03:52 -0700 - "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Zaire still won't connect >I'd be shocked if red carpet actually worked by default on Lindows, since >it would be a

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/13/03 00:22, Ian Stephen wrote: On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 19:47, Net Llama! wrote: I know nothing about palm pilots. I've never owned one, and never used one. How sad. That's like not growing up with a puppy. :o( Not really. I fail to see their usefullness. If i really wanted to, I cou

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Ian Stephen
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 19:47, Net Llama! wrote: > I know nothing about palm pilots. I've never owned one, and never used > one. How sad. That's like not growing up with a puppy. :o( > PEBCAK. Someone once said to me "There are no stupid questions..." That was followed not too long after w

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-13 Thread Ian Stephen
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 18:36, Joel Hammer wrote: > I don't have pilot-link. Do I need it? Yes! Both J-Pilot and Evolution require Pilot Link to sync with your Palm. See http://www.jpilot.org/requirements.html > > I downloaded Ximian Evolution. It won't work with the palm because I > need some g

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-12 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/12/03 20:46, Yu Meng Chong wrote: I will admit that Open Source is not as user-friendly as more commercial efforts, and lately, in the rush to "catch-up", I find that more and more Open Source software that is released is buggy or requires considerable effort to get it to work as advertise

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-12 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, point taken. As I recall, I did have pilot-link before I upgraded lindows, which had to be done so the visor and other modules would work with the PDA. My original problem was my kernel was a tiny bit premature to talk properly to the palm over usb. Not that the kernel said so, it just was so

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-12 Thread Yu Meng Chong
Joel Hammer wrote: Don't linux advocates get worried ? Bill Gates must sleep well at night. Joel I will admit that Open Source is not as user-friendly as more commercial efforts, and lately, in the rush to "catch-up", I find that more and more Open Source software that is released is buggy o

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-12 Thread Net Llama!
magic presto, all problems with evo were gone. On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:36:35 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Zaire still won't connect I don't have pilot-link. Do I need it? I downloaded Ximian Evolution. It won't work with the palm because I n

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-12 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/12/03 18:36, Joel Hammer wrote: I don't have pilot-link. Do I need it? I know nothing about palm pilots. I've never owned one, and never used one. I spent 3 minutes Googling and found numerous references to the requirement that pilot-link be installed & functional before you can access a

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-12 Thread ronnie gauthier
the initial install and when I put in evolution had all sorts of troubles until I used red carpet, then magic presto, all problems with evo were gone. On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:36:35 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Zaire still won't connect >I don

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-12 Thread Joel Hammer
I don't have pilot-link. Do I need it? I downloaded Ximian Evolution. It won't work with the palm because I need some gnome tools. Grrr Oh well, I will just have to not use my palm for a few months/years longer. I am getting fond of pcal. I will not bother with this problem anymore. I have

Re: Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-12 Thread Ian Stephen
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 13:35, Joel Hammer wrote: > Still trying to get my Zaire to connect via usb. Just love progress! > All I get is this: >J-Pilot: press the hotsync button on the cradle or "kill 4181" > > Of course, I have already pressed the hotsync button Several things (that prolly won

Zaire still won't connect

2003-07-12 Thread Joel Hammer
Still trying to get my Zaire to connect via usb. Just love progress! I have upgraded lindows and now see this when I attach my Zaire: hub.c: new USB device 00:11.2-2, assigned address 10 usbserial.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0 / Clii 4.x converter detected visor.c: Handspring Visor / Palm 4.0