elx now has a user group, but it's pretty well hidden on the home page.
You need to follow the purchase link, then you will see mailing
lists.
Not a lot of traffic, yet
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 18:50:58 -0700
Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the other strong points for ELX (IMHO) is that they include
OpenOffice.
Have you run AbiWord in elx?
If so...
Do you get a font error message about being unable
to add it's fonts to the X font path?
(elx rc2)
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FYI
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Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 12:39:54 -0800
From: TApologist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: (none)
Newsgroups: borland.public.kylix.non-technical
Subject: ELX Linux Interview
Paul and others have mentioned how much they like ELX Linux. Here's a
link to an interview
Thanks Ken, I'll try that.
Ray
On 6 Feb 2002, at 20:53, Ken Moffat wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:38:33 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am still having issues with the CD-RW and CD-R and Floppy drive
and the locks. Once in a while I can get to them but then cannot
unmount them as it
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 04:23:56 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 18:50:58 -0700
Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the other strong points for ELX (IMHO) is that they include
OpenOffice.
Have you run AbiWord in elx?
If so...
Do you get a font error
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 22:05:16 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:36:55 -0800
Mike Mckinlay mike@CX43837-A wrote:
Folks:
I hate sound like a newbie but, after hearing about Elx linux in a
coupleof posts to the list I cruzed over to their web site to
look
One of the other strong points for ELX (IMHO) is that they include
OpenOffice. Now that I'm running a more up-to-date machine (900Mz,
256M), oo works like a dream. Only about 15-18 seconds startup time.
Now I can type my daughter's homework tables and all without having to
bring up MS Word
I have installed ELX Linux also. I am very impressed. At first I didn't
think to much of the My Computer and the Network Neighborhood
on the desktop but after playing around a little and using the different
features of them, I found them rather handy. But then, I'm not a real
dyed
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:38:33 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am still having issues with the CD-RW and CD-R and Floppy drive
and the locks. Once in a while I can get to them but then cannot
unmount them as it thinks they are busy.
I disabled supermount by changing the /etc/fstab lines,
Folks:
I hate sound like a newbie but, after hearing about Elx linux in a couple
of posts to the list I cruzed over to their web site to look them over and
decided to give their latest beta release a spin and all I can say is WOW!
If this is a beta you can sure I'll be standing in line
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:36:55 -0800
Mike Mckinlay mike@CX43837-A wrote:
Folks:
I hate sound like a newbie but, after hearing about Elx linux in a
coupleof posts to the list I cruzed over to their web site to look
them over and decided to give their latest beta release a spin and all I
can
Was it [EMAIL PROTECTED] who wrote on Wednesday 09 January 2002 06:27:
I thought it was a bit sluggish too. But not as sluggish as Mandrake
8.1 Was running on AMD K6 2-500 with 256MB ram on its own HD.
On 8 Jan 2002, at 19:19, Ken Moffat wrote:
Anyone trying ELX think it's a bit sluggish
Well, after a nights rest, and rebooting, ELX seems to be running much
better, not sluggish any more, and I'm starting to like it. It does have a
windows like feel, too much for me, but you can still ignore that if you
want, and it did a fine job of setting up with my hardware
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:34:17 -0800
Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, after a nights rest, and rebooting, ELX seems to be running much
better, not sluggish any more, and I'm starting to like it. It does have a
windows like feel, too much for me, but you can still ignore
Anyone trying ELX think it's a bit sluggish?
(maybe it's because I have it about 40 gigs in to a 60 gig drive?)
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I thought it was a bit sluggish too. But not as sluggish as Mandrake
8.1 Was running on AMD K6 2-500 with 256MB ram on its own HD.
Ray
On 8 Jan 2002, at 19:19, Ken Moffat wrote:
Date sent: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:19:11 -0800
Anyone trying ELX think it's a bit sluggish?
(maybe
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:52, lesley wrote:
What is an ELX iso ???
Just to be very clear on what Collin's has said, an iso is shorthand for an
image.iso. It is the contents of an entire, existing, cd. You can replicate a
cd by burning it directly.
It is not exclusively connected with ELX
All in all elx seems quite full featured and stable so far. I'm not sure
about the Windows knockoffs, but we'll see. Anyone have problems with the
Mozilla and Galeon versions crashing on ELX?
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On Monday 07 January 2002 19:11, Ken Moffat wrote:
All in all elx seems quite full featured and stable so far. I'm not sure
about the Windows knockoffs, but we'll see. Anyone have problems with the
Mozilla and Galeon versions crashing on ELX?
Not really, I use galeon almost exclusively on elx
What is an ELX iso ???
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:04:06 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've just ftp'ed the elx iso's
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:22:35 +0900 lesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is an ELX iso ???
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:22:35 +0900 lesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is an ELX iso ???
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:04:06
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:04:06 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've just ftp'ed the elx iso's for a cd customer of mine and I was
wondering if anyone else may be interested in a copy? Seems to be spread
across two cd images, got them both.
Let me know asap, as I'm
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:03:33 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:04:06 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've just ftp'ed the elx iso's for a cd customer of mine and I was
wondering if anyone else may be interested in a copy? Seems
or no typo's, my greatest bitch with elx is that I had to
go change permissions on quite a few items in order to use them
as a user. This is not the first distro I've tried (nor probably
the last) Most machines at this site run Caldera other than this
one (my lab rat). I've not had to go
. Typo's are unacceptable. It truely
shows how much 'true' effort was put into the thing. I see more
and more companies putting things out with typo's in them, it's
pathetic.
Typo's or no typo's, my greatest bitch with elx is that I had to
go change permissions on quite
not excuse my
choice of language.
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Collins,
Got the same with Desktop Pro Version. I just clicked on the X to close the window and
Kylix will start and run just fine.
BTW, this is with SuSE 7.3 Pro.
Bye,
Keith B.
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
elx does offer a trial version of kylix, but I haven't gotten
Was it Collins Richey who wrote on Sunday 30 December 2001 00:36:
Well, my beloved gentoo distro has become somewhat unstable, so I've
switched back to elx at least temporarily.
A few notes:
3) I found rpm versions of xfce and sylpheed, and they went in without a
hitch, even though
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:39:30 + Declan Moriarty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Was it Collins Richey who wrote on Sunday 30 December 2001 00:36:
Well, my beloved gentoo distro has become somewhat unstable, so I've
switched back to elx at least temporarily.
A few notes:
3) I found rpm
I've reported the infamous typo to elx, which is what I should have done
in the first place instead of getting involved (and helping to fuel) a
flame war. Sigh, I guess I'm easy flame bait.
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WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:02, Ted Ozolins wrote:
On another note, I can not seem to be able (or programs) to use ttyS0 or
any serial port as a mere mortal. ttySX is owned by root and in the group
[snip]
temporarily (at least) cripple out GiveConsole and TakeConsole in /etc/X11/~
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Previously, Ted Ozolins chose to write:
On Sunday 30 December 2001 08:07 am, you wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:48:54 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Forwarded Message --
Here is the reply I received from elx re: some short-coming with
their distro. Its
For you python types,
elx has a fairly ancient version (python 1.5) linked as python; you need
to reference python2 to get version 2.
I noticed this when a script failed to recognize builtin string methods.
I'm sure things like this will be better documented as the distro matures.
--
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Previously, Collins Richey chose to write:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:58:16 -1000 (HST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 30-Dec-01 Collins Richey wrote:
[snip]
5) Unlike every distro I've used in the past, elx does not include the
telinit command, so the only way I could switch to run level 3
-- Forwarded Message --
Here is the reply I received from elx re: some short-coming with their
distro. Its almost scary to think that anyone would be foolish enough to run
their system mainly as root. Their approach is starting to look and feel ___
almost Micro$oftish
to execute
'/sbin/init 3'
Works on this install of elx. I use init 3 and seems to do what its
suppose to.
On another note, I can not seem to be able (or programs) to use ttyS0 or
any serial port as a mere mortal. ttySX is owned by root and in the
group uucp. even if I place the user
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:48:54 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Forwarded Message --
Here is the reply I received from elx re: some short-coming with their
distro. Its almost scary to think that anyone would be foolish enough to
run their system mainly
On Sunday 30 December 2001 08:07 am, you wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:48:54 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Forwarded Message --
Here is the reply I received from elx re: some short-coming with their
distro. Its almost scary to think that anyone would
After a little further research (it's hidden pretty well at the elx site)
there is an elx forum where you can exchange ideas with other users and
the developers.
At the elx site (www.elxlinux.com) navigate to ELX - Forum.
Enjoy
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WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17
Well, I read the posts from Ray, Collins and Ted with interest while
I was downloading with a 56K modem - 3 or 4 days. The CDs burned OK
and here are my obsevations.
INSTALLATION
My box has wintendo98 (disk 1), Mandrake 8.1 (disk 2), and Mandrake
Cooker (disk 4). Disk 3 was ready for ELX
On Sunday 30 December 2001 10:05 am, you wrote:
I too have not got Webmin to start yet and I haven't been
able to check how kylix works - still lots more playing
around to do.
By the way, I don't think it's anything like Mandrake.
Take a look at your hosts file and you'll notice that
1), Mandrake 8.1 (disk 2), and Mandrake
Cooker (disk 4). Disk 3 was ready for ELX, formatted reiserfs using
Acronis OSS Disk Manager. The Mandrake disks are ext3.
Custom install was impossible. The installer's kernel doesn't know
about ext3
Custom install was fine for me - my other
Collins Richey wrote:
[...]
ELX WELCOME'S YOU
BFD! If I had a nickel for every one of my typos, I'd be retired by now.
If your typos are in a product you're selling, I won't buy it. If you can't
proofread, how good are you at testing your software (corporately speaking,
obviously
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:58:57 -0700 Dave Anselmi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Collins Richey wrote:
[...]
ELX WELCOME'S YOU
BFD! If I had a nickel for every one of my typos, I'd be retired by
now.
If your typos are in a product you're selling, I won't buy it. If you
can't
On Sunday 30 December 2001 01:23 pm, you wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:58:57 -0700 Dave Anselmi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Collins Richey wrote:
[...]
ELX WELCOME'S YOU
BFD! If I had a nickel for every one of my typos, I'd be retired by
now.
If your typos
-
From: Vern W Heesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: elx
[snip]
I am in agreement with Dave. Typo's are unacceptable. It truely shows
how
much 'true' effort was put into the thing. I see more and more
companies
putting things out
to use
them any more.
Fortunately for some of us who are less picky, elx does work rather well.
It's also a -pre1 release, so the 1.0 release may be even better.
You're probably better off with Debian, where a package isn't good enough
to be accepted into stable unless it's been running
]
Registered Linux user # 135678 since 1994
Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988
- Original Message -
From: Vern W Heesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: elx
[snip]
I am in agreement with Dave. Typo's are unacceptable
how much 'true' effort was put into the thing. I see more and more
companies putting things out with typo's in them, it's pathetic.
Typo's or no typo's, my greatest bitch with elx is that I had to go
change permissions on quite a few items in order to use them as a user
with Dave. Typo's are unacceptable. It truely shows
how much 'true' effort was put into the thing. I see more and more
companies putting things out with typo's in them, it's pathetic.
Typo's or no typo's, my greatest bitch with elx is that I had to go
change permissions on quite a few items
elx does offer a trial version of kylix, but I haven't gotten this to work
yet. Will report to elx forum as well.
The basic procedure is
0) su
1) untar the package
2) cd to kylix_trial
3) cd to borpretest
4) ./testsystem - reports good results kylix should work
5) ./setup.sh - install
home (user) directory)
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:19:35 -0700
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
elx does offer a trial version of kylix, but I haven't gotten this to
work yet.
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On December 30, 2001 05:19 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
I haven't had success on gentoo with kylix, either, so I'm not really
surprised.
Guess I'll kill it and move on.
As I found out via the borland newsgroups (see
http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-users@linux.nf/msg07067.html ) Kylix 1 is
Kylix 1 caused nothing but problems.
Thanks, David
Will keep in mind. The only reason I tried it now was because it is
there on the elx distro.
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Well, my beloved gentoo distro has become somewhat unstable, so I've
switched back to elx at least temporarily.
A few notes:
1) I've stripped out some of the offending daemons, so startup/shutdown is
a little faster. Still looking at removing others, but going slow to
avoid breaking anything
On 30-Dec-01 Collins Richey wrote:
[snip]
5) Unlike every distro I've used in the past, elx does not include the
telinit command, so the only way I could switch to run level 3 was to
edit
/etc/inittab and reboot.
[snip]
telinit is just a link to init
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2:58pm up 40
On Saturday 29 December 2001 04:36 pm, you wrote:
4) Most of my problems with the 2.4.17 kernel are not compiler related,
but rather due to the elx default kernel config compiling everything under
the sun. When I backed out to my standard config, even the much maligned
(by me) gcc3
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:28:42 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 29 December 2001 04:36 pm, you wrote:
4) Most of my problems with the 2.4.17 kernel are not compiler
related, but rather due to the elx default kernel config compiling
everything under the sun. When I
See bottom.
Recently, somebody somewhere said:
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 11:40 am, you wrote:
Ted Ozolins wrote:
I still can not log into webmin. I'll rpm -e webmin and re-install it
and see if that fixes the beast. I can log into swat with no problems.
I'm using Mozilla as the
Recently, somebody somewhere said:
Yep, you're right about the CDROMS - no devices sg0-1 and sr0-1, I'm
buggered how to set them up; MAKEDEV doesn't seen to work.
SCSI support is there, however. cdrecord --scanbus returns the expected
data.
Ahem, beg pardon of my ignorance, but have you
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 02:36 am, you wrote:
Recently, somebody somewhere said:
Yep, you're right about the CDROMS - no devices sg0-1 and sr0-1, I'm
buggered how to set them up; MAKEDEV doesn't seen to work.
SCSI support is there, however. cdrecord --scanbus returns the expected
Ted Ozolins wrote:
I still can not log into webmin. I'll rpm -e webmin and re-install it
and see if that fixes the beast. I can log into swat with no problems. I'm
using Mozilla as the browser.
Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO)
Westbank, B. C.
What port are you trying to connect to? Webmin (depending
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 11:40 am, you wrote:
Ted Ozolins wrote:
I still can not log into webmin. I'll rpm -e webmin and re-install it
and see if that fixes the beast. I can log into swat with no problems.
I'm using Mozilla as the browser.
Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO)
Westbank, B. C.
Just wondering, has anyone sent an email to ELX on these couple of
items we are all having a problem with? After all, their site says its
supposed to be set up so any novice can immediately work in Linux
and basically have no problems.
Ray
On 26 Dec 2001, at 10:32, Ted Ozolins wrote
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 01:16 pm, you wrote:
Ted Ozolins wrote:
snip
I've tried both with no joy. This is definately a first for me. I've
never had prob's logging into webmin on any other distro (Caldera,
Redhat, Mandrake nor Redmond) I have not had much time to play with
this,
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 14:59:36 -0800
Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 01:16 pm, you wrote:
Ted Ozolins wrote:
snip
I've tried both with no joy. This is definately a first for me.
I've never had prob's logging into webmin on any other distro
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 06:31 pm, you wrote:
/dev/hdc7 / reiserfs notail,auto 1 1
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details about why this distro should be preferred above the
Mandrake.
-Elx starts every imaginable daemon, including webmin and portmapper
-and mysql. I'll have to
*** Yep, that looks much like Mandrake (a.k.a. Red Hat :-). With the
slight difference that Mandrake 8.1 asks what daemons you
Recently, somebody somewhere said:
-8) All in all, this looks very much like Mandrake.
-Elx starts every imaginable daemon, including webmin and portmapper
-and mysql. I'll have to
*** Yep, that looks much like Mandrake (a.k.a. Red Hat :-). With the
slight difference that Mandrake 8.1
, make, etc. that may
prove helpful for newbies that want to stray into the realm of development.
Why did I climb the mountain? Because it was there.
-Elx starts every imaginable daemon, including webmin and portmapper
-and mysql. I'll have to
*** Yep, that looks much like Mandrake (a.k.a
I also did the download of Elx. I did 2 installs with it, same machine
twice.
MachineVia Apollo chipset, AMD K6 2-500, 256 megs ram, PCI
Riva TNT Graphics Card, Fijitsu 10 meg primary with Windows,
Western Dig 20 Gig blank secondary, Lite-on CD-RW, Generic 56x
CD, Sylvania F74 monitor
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 05:42 am, you wrote:
Recently, somebody somewhere said:
-8) All in all, this looks very much like Mandrake.
-Elx starts every imaginable daemon, including webmin and portmapper
-and mysql. I'll have to
*** Yep, that looks much like Mandrake (a.k.a. Red Hat
will feel right at
home.
I had 3 problems with the custom install, ELX did not configure my
sound card correctly, nor did it configure the CD-RW or CD-R properly
so that I could pop in a cd and browse.
No problems with my essolo1 sound card.
Yep, you're right about the CDROMS - no devices
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 10:53 am, you wrote:
I also did the download of Elx. I did 2 installs with it, same machine
twice.
Well, this one is doa! They've picked a compiler (gcc-3.0.2) that doesn't do
kernels! You'd think distro makers would learn? This is what I would expect
from
Collins Richey wrote:
Yep, you're right about the CDROMS - no devices sg0-1 and sr0-1, I'm
buggered how to set them up; MAKEDEV doesn't seen to work.
SCSI support is there, however. cdrecord --scanbus returns the expected data.
Try man mknod. And you may need to look at devices.txt in
detects everything necessary (including exact details of my video card and
monitor - kudos) and starts X - everything else is eye-candy gui based.
3) Don't choose the default option if you have anything other than Windows to
preserve on your harddrive! elx would clear off everything
For those of you who like to try new distros, ELX Linux is available for
download today.
The FTP connection didn't work but the HTTP one did. I haven't finished
downloading it yet so don't have any other comments.
you can get it at
www.elxlinux.com
click on download
Ray
Ray Nancy
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:50:17 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those of you who like to try new distros, ELX Linux is available
for download today.
The FTP connection didn't work but the HTTP one did. I haven't
finished downloading it yet so don't have any other comments.
you can get
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