Shevek wrote:
>
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Tim Sweetman wrote:
>
> > I don't know whether PHP would behave any more gracefully.
>
> Is dumping core considered graceful?
Compared with slurping memory forever or spitting to STDERR forever,
yes, very. One can't really fault a very ill person from leav
David Cantrell wrote:
> Let me clear up a few things here. I wrote my toy system because I had an
> itch which needed scratching. I looked at pre-existing alternatives and
> rejected them all for various reasons. The only reason I'm even bothering
> to argue about this is because of the incorrec
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:00:02PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> Here's how I build my Perl into /opt/perl/snap
>
> ./Configure -des -Dusedevel -Uversiononly -Dprefix=/opt/perl/snap
>-Dlocincpth=/sw/include -Dloclibpth=/sw/lib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> It finds things in /sw just fine when yo
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:52:06PM +, Lusercop wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 02:07:12PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
> > Remember, all software sucks*. But to say that "embedding application code
> > in markup leads to a poor (or non-existant) seperation of concerned,
> > typified by spaghe
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:08:42PM +, Tim Sweetman wrote:
> For spaghetti avoidance, "the right thing" tends to constitute
> nonspaghetti; separating stuff out; abstraction layers; passing the
> right data, and just the right data, to another part of the system
> through a comprehensible interf
I have a london-based client who is looking for a security guru to
specify and implement a server configuration for handling an online
payment system.
Mail me expressions of interest and pointers to previous similar
installations.
Ta,
Dave
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Alex McLintock wrote:
> I think I better learn PHP if for no better reason than to prepare for the
> mass PHP to perl/java conversions when people realise that PHP is a bad idea.
I learnt enough PHP to install and use a non-core module, and get that,
and database access, and
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Tim Sweetman wrote:
> I don't know whether PHP would behave any more gracefully.
Is dumping core considered graceful?
S.
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Shevek
I am the Borg.
sub AUTOLOAD{my$i=$AUTOLOAD;my$x=shift;$i=~s/^.*://;print"$x\n";eval
qq{*$AUTOLOAD=sub{my\$x=shift;return unless \$x%$i;&{$x}(
Dominic Mitchell wrote:
sub set_something {
my ($self, $val) = @_;
*{$self}{something} = $val;
}
That should be:
${*$self}{something} = $val;
obviously...
-Dom
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Nicholas Clark wrote:
Except for one part that I find curious. The presentation lists one of
the cons for perl as
poor sandboxing, easy to screw up server
yet I get the feeling that that is the arguments against PHP. Or am I
confusing the idea of screwing up namespaces with screwing things u
Nicholas Clark wrote:
> Except for one part that I find curious. The presentation lists one of
> the cons for perl as
>
> poor sandboxing, easy to screw up server
>
> yet I get the feeling that that is the arguments against PHP. Or am I
> confusing the idea of screwing up namespaces with scre
> http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/yahoo-phpcon2002.htm
> http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/29/2052239
At 13:37 31/10/02, Nicholas Clark wrote:
Except for one part that I find curious. The presentation lists one of
the cons for perl as
poor sandboxing, easy to screw
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 04:38:12PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, << everyone >> wrote:
>
> > << PHP is crap >>
>
> http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/yahoo-phpcon2002.htm
> http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/29/2052239
>
> Erek Dyskant writes "Yahoo ha
Chris Devers wrote:
> When is it nice to be a "quick hack language" that's
> "simple and easy", & when does that lead to "the biggest no-no there is"?
Simple and easy quick hack languages are great. I've got nothing against
PHP or Perl in that respect.
But for larger projects that you want to
Shevek wrote:
1) Is there any code I should look at already? I'm assuming that I will
inherit IO::File and IO::Dir into my own File and Dir objects.
One of the best places to start is to look at the kernel and the
vfs/vnode system within it. I know it's C, but the basic ideas are
pretty simpl
Lusercop wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:57:40AM +, Alex McLintock wrote:
I spotted this article referred to from Ecademy...
Techweb: Defense Contractor Says Open-Source Software Is Good For
Military > October 29, 2002
http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20021029S0005
The article says th
Shevek wrote:
> 1) Is there any code I should look at already? I'm assuming that I will
> inherit IO::File and IO::Dir into my own File and Dir objects.
There are 2 TT plugin modules which provide a fairly basic form of
this abstraction, Template::Plugin::File and Template::Plugin::Directory.
A
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Andy Wardley wrote [and I slightly edited, sorry]:
> $LANG is, or should be, a quick hack language. The fundamental
> feature of embedding application code directly in presentation markup
> is the biggest no-no there is. It leads to a poor (or non-existant)
> separation of c
On Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:15 AM, Shevek [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Questions:
>
> I intend to write this module.
>
> 1) Is there any code I should look at already? I'm assuming that I will
> inherit IO::File and IO::Dir into my own File and Dir objects.
Take a look at the File::Sp
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:57:40AM +, Alex McLintock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I spotted this article referred to from Ecademy...
>
> Techweb: Defense Contractor Says Open-Source Software Is Good For
> Military > October 29, 2002
> http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20021029S0005
>
> Th
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:57:40AM +, Alex McLintock wrote:
> I spotted this article referred to from Ecademy...
> Techweb: Defense Contractor Says Open-Source Software Is Good For
> Military > October 29, 2002
> http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20021029S0005
> The article says that the Am
As I write code that would like to mess with virtual filesystems, the
following thoughts come to mind:
Introduction:
A filesystem is an object with methods like open file, stat file. A file
is an object with methods like read, write, close. Many programs use
filesystems. Many programs like to
Dean Wilson wrote:
I'm going to ignore the PHP bashing and templating discussions and add that
Horde and SquirrelMail are both recommened on the GLLUG list when ever this
question comes up by a number of people. So while neither is written in
Perl both are in use.
I'm using an IMAP server here a
I spotted this article referred to from Ecademy...
Techweb: Defense Contractor Says Open-Source Software Is Good For
Military > October 29, 2002
http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20021029S0005
The article says that the American Department of Defense quite likes Open
Source software - *and* p
On 30 Oct 2002, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> does anyone have any recommendations for webmail that won't degenerate
> into a templating argument?
http://fastmail.fm
OK, you can't install it anywhere, but it's far and away the best webmail
service out there. Supporting evidence includes:
* It plays
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 09:27:14AM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> * Chris Andrews ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > The learning curve to writing *bad* PHP is really flat. The learning curve
> > to writing good, secure, scalable PHP I would suggest is much steeper and
> > lon
* Chris Andrews ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> The learning curve to writing *bad* PHP is really flat. The learning curve
> to writing good, secure, scalable PHP I would suggest is much steeper and
> longer, because the language itself, and also the user community (and so
> the support and resourc
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 22:42, Chris Devers wrote:
> On 30 Oct 2002, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
>
> > does anyone have any recommendations for webmail that won't degenerate
> > into a templating argument?
>
> Yeah, I'm impressed that in all this thread (over 100 messages?) I think
> maybe one or two po
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:49:12AM -, Dean Wilson wrote:
> I'm going to ignore the PHP bashing and templating discussions and add that
> Horde and SquirrelMail are both recommened on the GLLUG list when ever this
> question comes up by a number of people. So while neither is written in
> Perl b
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 07:49:03PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz said:
> I don't. I suspect PHP runs more hobby sites. I suspect Perl does
> more of the e-commerce heavy lifting and pretty-lifting.
Christ. I said I wasn't going to get pulled into this.
FWIW, according to the latest SecuritySpace su
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 04:38:12PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, << everyone >> wrote:
> > > << PHP is crap >>
>
> I don't think PHP is crap.
>
> I am also amused and puzzled at the people writing huge tracts on why
> PHP is cr
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