Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-29 Thread Struan Donald
* at 29/07 07:32 -0700 Ovid said: > > On the off chance that anyone here is interested, I thought it would > be fun to produce a small parody of the "I'm a PC/I'm a Mac" ads. > Basically, it would be a series of video shorts along the lines of > "I'm Java/I'm Perl", "I'm Ruby/I'm Perl", etc. All i

Re: Tricky localization/scope question

2009-07-28 Thread Struan Donald
* at 27/07 17:01 -0700 Randy J. Ray said: > So, let's assume there's a module called "Test::Without"[1] I'm not sure if you've seen it but there is a Test::Without::Module already on the CPAN that does the file part of what you want. Struan

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Struan Donald
* at 05/01 14:39 + Paul Makepeace said: > If you're going multi-modal folding bikes are the only way to go, IMO. > (I've heard awful things about Dahon though, btw.) > > FWIW: I had a terrible experience with Bikefix, to the point of having > me give them another, rhyming name... The advice I

Re: Stupid fucking antivirus software

2003-09-01 Thread Struan Donald
* at 31/08 15:27 +0100 Peter Sergeant said: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 01:54:56PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > > What you are saying is equivalent to "if there's money to be made from > > spamming, there's nothing wrong with doing it.". > > No, what I'm saying is that expecting businesses to act

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-29 Thread Struan Donald
* at 28/08 19:40 +0200 Ronan Oger (roasp) said: > But how much are we *already* measured, controlled, and modelled, with and > without our consent? Databas NAtion by Garfinkel (spl?) has a lot to say about this. > with consent: > air miles card purchases track spending habits in order to sell

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-29 Thread Struan Donald
* at 28/08 18:26 +0200 Robin Berjon said: > Nicholas Clark wrote: > >On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:39:49PM +0200, Robin Berjon wrote: > >>I don't think that's what Elaine was pointing at. You're hit by a bus and > >>die. How do they contact your friends and family if you can't be > >>identified? > >

Re: interactive tests

2003-07-30 Thread Struan Donald
* at 30/07 12:40 + Dominic Mitchell said: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:49:10 +0200, Jos I. Boumans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you want to change things in Makefile.PL, look at @ARGV or %ENV. > > as suggested below as well -- if possible every question in Makefile.PL > > should be overridabl

Re: interactive tests

2003-07-30 Thread Struan Donald
* at 30/07 15:32 +0100 Adrian Howard said: > On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 05:50 am, Struan Donald wrote: > [snip] > >And, yes, I'm aware I should probably try and avoid interactive tests > >altogether but in this case there's no other way to get the &g

interactive tests

2003-07-29 Thread Struan Donald
Hi, If you don't want to read about Perl look away now. In cases where you require some information to perform a test (say a database name, or login information) is there an accepted way of doing it? More specifically is there some way I can ask for the information and if I don't get a response i

Re: HTML to text

2003-06-30 Thread Struan Donald
* at 30/06 10:32 +0200 Mark Overmeer said: > * Ian Malpass ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030629 20:59]: > > I'm trying to write something that converts HTML into nicely formatted > > text. > > > $fh->open("lynx -dump -stdin < temp.txt |") > > HTML::FormatText produces a nice result. Although in order

use warnings and 5.005

2003-03-30 Thread Struan Donald
Harking back to Simon's[0] complaint of modules being non 5.005 compatible simply due to turning on the warnings pragma is there a way to turn it on for 5.6+? Some poking turns up this mail on p5p from Nick Clark: http://makeashorterlink.com/?H28912404 which asks if if ($] >= 5.006) {

Re: c email libraries

2003-03-19 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/03 18:44 + Marty Pauley said: > On Tue Mar 18 17:48:12 2003, Simon Wistow wrote: > > > > and another one that implements jwz's threading algorith, > > Dunno about that. I thought he provided the C code himself. If you look at his page[0] on the algorithm he states: Sadly, my C

Re: sshd on port 443

2003-02-12 Thread Struan Donald
* at 12/02 17:25 - Jody Belka said: > Newton, Philip said: > > Jody Belka wrote: > >> have you tried turning keep-alives on? > > > > How do I do that? > > i think you said you're using putty, yes? if so, it has an option to send > null packets to keep the session active. that's what i was thi

Re: [OT] Playstation2 as DVD Player

2003-01-08 Thread Struan Donald
* at 07/01 20:48 + Dave Cross said: > > So it seems that the problem is not with the DVDs I buy, but with my > PS2's ability to play slightly sub-standard discs. > > Has anyone heard this about PS2s? Is it a known fault? Is there a way > to fix it? $flatmates PS2 and the one that Sony replac

Re: [JOB]

2002-11-26 Thread Struan Donald
* at 26/11 06:32 + Piers Cawley said: > Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 18:53, Fiona Conner wrote: > >> Hello > >> > >> I am looking for a full-time perl programmer to work on a major blue-chip > >> client's e commerce site. > > > > Blue chip. Notting

Re: Reuse; was: applying patterns

2002-10-10 Thread Struan Donald
* at 10/10 10:08 +0100 Lusercop said: > > WRT to CPAN, as a system administrator, you do basically want to maintain > the smallest number of independent bits of software on the machines you > run, but when a CPAN module depends on several others, each of which depends > on several others etc, you

Re: ADSL Help

2002-10-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/10 10:27 +0100 Robert Shiels said: > I've just about decided to go for ADSL, and Nildram have been recommended > here, so I go to this page: > > https://www.getadsl.co.uk/services_home.htm > > and now I'm not really sure what I want. I think the cheapest option will > probably be fine, b

Re: mysql autoincs

2002-07-17 Thread Struan Donald
* at 16/07 18:47 +0100 Jonathan Stowe said: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Roger Burton West wrote: > > > FreeTDS? > > It's getting there - it will work against SQL Server 2000 which suprised > me greatly. Just make sure you make sure it's speaking the right version of TDS for your database otherwise B

Re: mysql autoincs

2002-07-16 Thread Struan Donald
* at 16/07 15:51 +0100 Dave Cross said: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 03:56:23PM +0100, Alex McLintock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > For the record I hit this sort of problem doing some perl web stuff with > > Oracle. > > It seemed that because Oracle was multiprocessor each oracle process woul

Re: [ANNOUNCE] ANNOUNCE: Technical meeting, Thurs 18 July

2002-07-15 Thread Struan Donald
* at 15/07 17:17 +0100 Dominic Mitchell said: > Chris Benson wrote: > >Next time I'm in London this's what I'll be using: > > > > http://www.bromptonbicycle.co.uk/ > > They're very good and I wouldn't part with mine, but go easy with them. > I'd been riding mine for less than a year before

Re: Anyone up for a TPC6 skate jam?

2002-07-02 Thread Struan Donald
* at 02/07 12:51 +0100 Paul Makepeace said: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 12:13:25PM +0100, Harper, Gareth wrote: > > Other than that London skaters should know about the Wednesday and > Friday Night Skates, > > WNS: http://www.londonskate.com/ > FNS: http://www.citiskate.com/fnsfaq.htm > Both depa

Re: Book reviews

2002-05-30 Thread Struan Donald
* at 30/05 04:36 -0700 Paul Makepeace said: > > The point at which you start saying "oh well, it's OK to this or that > even though it is basically spamming" is the thin end of the wedge. > Imagine if this what you think is acceptable was done by every > commercial company who had a product you c

Re: Signs and Ports (as in many bottles of different)

2002-05-28 Thread Struan Donald
* at 28/05 14:03 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: [1] > > Is it just me or have their been a number of indicators we are nearly > due for our biannual (or if you prefer semiannual) introspective > mailing list thread where we debate in our usual manner mailing list > pedentry, fascism, etc. ? Maybe we

Re: Counting words in any document

2002-05-27 Thread Struan Donald
* at 27/05 13:30 +0100 Pierre Denis said: > I'd like to count the number of words in any type of documents. > I have a processor that transform the initial document into plain text and > then counting the words is a piece of cake. > No problems so far to do it for plain text and html documents. >

Re: mod_rewrite, individuality and purty urls

2002-05-03 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/05 11:48 +0100 Simon Wistow said: > > My first thought would be to do something like ... > > 1. Lower case the title > 2. Strip out common words like and, a, but, and, like, or etc etc. > 3. Convert spaces to underscores. > 4. Check to see if that's unique, if it's not then add a number

Re: OT: Mailing list software

2002-04-24 Thread Struan Donald
* at 24/04 11:49 +0100 Roger Burton West said: > > My feeling as a listmaster (since 1994 or so, list sizes up to about > 200) is that anyone who has trouble following the instructions "send > mail to address X with subject line Y" is unlikely to have much to > contribute to a mailing list. Thi

Re: ADSL

2002-03-13 Thread Struan Donald
* at 12/03 23:44 + Steve Keay said: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 03:15:10PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: > > fact, I want cheap ADSL with none of that silly USB business, so I was > > > > Now, I still have a USB modem (the Alcatel speedtouch thing that looks > like a sea creature), but since Nov

Re: ADSL

2002-03-09 Thread Struan Donald
* at 09/03 22:24 + David Cantrell said: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 08:52:48PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: > > > I have to admit that I'm not really sure what I want from the service, apart > > from 24/7 connectivity (I'd like to be able to pull files off my home PC > > from work too), a static

Re: Tea (was Re: Bolloxia)

2002-02-26 Thread Struan Donald
* at 26/02 11:47 + the hatter said: > On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Struan Donald wrote: > > > but if the OS crashes and then you restore the AI isn't that a little > > ethically unsound? in that the AI has died and the you've restored it > > ,presumably from a not

Re: Tea (was Re: Bolloxia)

2002-02-26 Thread Struan Donald
* at 26/02 10:58 + Peter Haworth said: > > On the other hand, surely the AI has a reasonable chance if you take regular > backups? :-) but if the OS crashes and then you restore the AI isn't that a little ethically unsound? in that the AI has died and the you've restored it ,presumably from

Next social and tube strikes

2002-02-22 Thread Struan Donald
It's been noticed that the next social (on the 7th of March) and the first of the two proposed tube strikes overlap (in that it finishes at noon on the 7th). Do we think this is liable to be a problem? ISTR that last time this happened the social meeting was moved to the following Thursday. Is

Re: london.pm digest, Vol 1 #611 - 24 msgs

2002-02-21 Thread Struan Donald
* at 21/02 11:17 + Nicholas Clark said: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 02:11:49AM -0500, David H. Adler wrote: > > > And, of course, while you're here, you *will* come to an NY.pm meeting, > > right? :-) > > > > Of course, I'd have to actually *scedule* one first... > > Hey cool. So they don't

Re: Social meet kick up the arse [Was: Return to the Yorke]

2002-02-20 Thread Struan Donald
* at 20/02 10:13 + Paul Mison said: > > I know a fixed start time is a possible solution, but it doesn't sound > like a good one to me. As to an introductory speech, I doubt I'd be able > to talk in front of you lot without a little booze inside me... which > would also guarantee not going ov

Re: Social meet kick up the arse [Was: Return to the Yorke]

2002-02-19 Thread Struan Donald
* at 19/02 22:16 + Kate L Pugh said: > > * "Social meets aren't the best way to recruit newbies." > > Pah, that's where you got me from, and aren't you glad you did. i think the key difference is that people who come to social meets are more likely to participate actively rather than just l

Re: Social meet kick up the arse [Was: Return to the Yorke]

2002-02-19 Thread Struan Donald
* at 20/02 00:02 + David Cantrell said: > > On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Kate L Pugh wrote: > > > * "How about offering a free pint to first-time attendees at the social?" > > That was originally my silly suggestion, but I'll stand by it. I'll buy > a $drink_of_choice for a few new faces. is a good

Re: Bolloxia

2002-02-19 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/02 17:57 -0600 Chris Devers said: > > But what then? The more I study this, the more all the sides just sound > hopelessly naive & wrongheaded, but I can't offer any better suggestions. we should all just rememember to be nice to each other and get along :) s

Re: Bolloxia

2002-02-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/02 13:51 -0800 Paul Makepeace said: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 04:37:42PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: > > Theoretically decreasing overhead means decreased prices for consumers, > > but we all know that never happens in the real world. > > I'm pretty sure I'm paying less for an 80GB of hardd

Re: Bolloxia

2002-02-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/02 16:00 - Robert Shiels said: > From: "Struan Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > however you look at it globalisation is only good for the large > > companies and not for anyone else. > > > sorry for snipping everything, but I have no i

Re: Bolloxia

2002-02-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/02 14:59 + Jonathan Peterson said: > > Hey, I like Levi's! just an example :) > There's a difference between the brandname thing and the globalisation > thing. Brands have been qith us for a while, and people have been buying > brands for the sake of the brand for hundreds of years

Re: Bolloxia

2002-02-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/02 14:00 - Robert Shiels said: > From: "Simon Wistow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Branded clothing is in no way guaranteed to be better than quality. My > > Vans fall apart very quickly and my Levis split at the crotch. > > well take them back then, and have them replaced for free. Tha

Re: Bolloxia

2002-02-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/02 12:59 + Rob Partington said: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > By globalised I meant when a brand has been changed to fit in with a > > more homegenised global ideal. > > But it's being changed to fit in with a more homogenised global

Re: Bolloxia

2002-02-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/02 10:46 + Simon Wistow said: > > [0] I won't buy any 'globalised' brands for a start. how do you square this with owning computers and the like? it's always struck me as the problem with being in this industry and worried about these things as you simple can't avoid buying globalise

Re: The Hotel Fiasco 2 - Please read and respond

2002-02-14 Thread Struan Donald
* at 14/02 16:42 + Greg McCarroll said: > > Ok, it seems impossible that there can be one hotel, if people want to > email me off list with their preferences out of the options of the > original email entitled "The Hotel Fiasco", i'll let CSM know where to > slot people in. to clarify what s

Re: The Hotel Fiasco

2002-02-14 Thread Struan Donald
* at 14/02 10:41 + Greg McCarroll said: > > The following prices assume staying for the 17,18,19,20,21. Please > double check the prices, I worked them out quickly. They looked about right. out of interest how many people (like me) are leaving on the 21st? > we go for the MMA and those wh

Re: Forwarded : YAPC 2002

2002-02-14 Thread Struan Donald
* at 14/02 10:01 + Greg McCarroll said: > > PLEASE SEND FEEDBACK TO THIS LIST > > The list of people is much greater than 12 already, so going for the > cheaper hotel would mean splitting the group. well, I'm either for the cheaper one or sharing a room. s > - Forwarded message from

Re: IMPORTANT!!!! Forwarded : YAPC 2002 - hotel bookings

2002-02-12 Thread Struan Donald
* at 12/02 11:21 + Greg McCarroll said: > > I need feedback on this ASAP seems a bit steeper, pricewise, than i was anticipating in that it's heading on for twice what i was anticipating... s

Re: [plug] grubstreet

2002-02-07 Thread Struan Donald
* at 07/02 12:35 + Leon Brocard said: > Earle Martin sent the following bits through the ether: > > > If this interests you, you can find it at http://grault.net/grubstreet/ . > > Dipsy knows more than grubstreet. Why the wiki? not everyone groks irc might be one reason. plus dipsy does hav

Re: OSX

2002-02-01 Thread Struan Donald
* at 01/02 11:23 - Robert Shiels said: > From: "Simon Wistow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > it'll all be micorpayments i tell you > > I'm not convinced by the micro-payments model. I like to know exactly what > something is costing me, otherwise how can I budget. I suppose if there was This is

Re: [OT] 3 light bulbs problem

2002-01-28 Thread Struan Donald
* at 28/01 14:52 - Ivor Williams said: > Time for one of those lateral thinking problems. > > Imagine you have a cellar in which there are 3 light bulbs on different > circuits. The light switches are all at ground level, at the top of the > staircase, and it is not possible to see from here,

Re: Email from a cultural icon

2002-01-28 Thread Struan Donald
* at 28/01 00:33 + Andrew Wilson said: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 07:09:21PM -0500, David H. Adler wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 02:16:02PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > > > > Notoriety in English has a negative connotation. > > > > It does? Are you sure you're not thinking of "noto

Re: Idiotic Perl

2002-01-25 Thread Struan Donald
* at 25/01 12:08 + Dave Cross said: > My slides from last night are now online at > > > > I forgot to mention that last night was a practice run for the German > Perl Workshop (and, hopefully, a couple of other conferences this year, so > if you have

Re: bad nasty evil thread

2002-01-24 Thread Struan Donald
* at 23/01 19:25 + Mark Fowler said: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Struan Donald wrote: > > > * at 23/01 17:44 + Mark Fowler said: > > > > > > This name has to go. Perl 6 makes it sound like it's just another update > > > to perl. It's not

Re: [OT] Exam Question

2002-01-21 Thread Struan Donald
* at 21/01 11:00 - Ivor Williams said: > Thought this might amuse the Perl mongers. :-> > I. > > Subject: EXAM QUESTION http://www.snopes2.com/college/exam/hell.htm would seem to throw doubt on the veracity of this tale s

Re: Beer Emergency!

2002-01-20 Thread Struan Donald
* at 20/01 17:43 + Jonathan Stowe said: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > I have only one dimpled pint glass, commonly known as a "jug", however > > it has developed a crack. I now need to acquire at least one in order > > to satisfy my proper beer from a proper glass insanit

Re: Scraper fix

2002-01-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/01 12:43 + Leon Brocard said: > > I think I like rt, and I've been using it to report all sorts of silly > bugs. Of course, there's nothing to stop the author disappearing off > the face of the earth and/or ignoring your bug reports, but it's a > good start at least. Also good as it

Re: OT perl question

2002-01-15 Thread Struan Donald
* at 15/01 15:21 + nemesis said: > > Anyone know of a way of telling whether a perl script was called as a > CGI (via the apache webserver) or directly (as in as a cron script or > command line)? will be a whole load of exciting CGI type things in %ENV if it's a cgi call so you could test

Re: Year 2K2 problem

2002-01-15 Thread Struan Donald
* at 15/01 11:58 + robin szemeti said: > > A 7-Page Interpretive Report created for your unique type. Simple to take > 93-question test online in the privacy of your home or office. Results > typically within 48 hours. Report in Adobe .pdf format. 93 questions? they have enough trouble ge

Re: Damn Hackers

2002-01-07 Thread Struan Donald
* at 07/01 14:18 + Robin said: > > Steve Mynott wrote: > > > In short portscans are of very limited use to sysadmins. > > hmmm .. whilst comparing a port scan from a known baseline doesn;t tell you > that badness hasn't happend .. if you find new ports open then thats an > indication that s

Re: high fidelity

2002-01-07 Thread Struan Donald
* at 07/01 12:12 + Greg McCarroll said: > > * Dave Thorn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > You never can tell with bees. > > > > Bees? I'm confused now. stripey tights? s

Re: high fidelity

2002-01-07 Thread Struan Donald
* at 07/01 11:10 - Barbie said: > > From: "Struan Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > i think it comes down to the general perception of them as goths and > > hence not worth bothering about. and having had that label attached > > most people

Re: high fidelity

2002-01-07 Thread Struan Donald
* at 07/01 10:04 - Robert Shiels said: > > From: "Barbie [home]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 3) The Kiss, The Cure > > An interesting choice - I was listening to this only last night actually on > my headphones quite loud, and it is truely an outstanding track - I even > contemplated getting an

Re: high fidelity

2002-01-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/01 21:49 + Greg McCarroll said: > > * Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > So top 5 films for london.pm .. ;-) > > > > Ack, I mean't to say top 5 songs (damn) in no order at all... a letter to elise by the cure pen expers by autechre little discourage by idlewild

Re: JOB: Mod_perl

2002-01-04 Thread Struan Donald
* at 04/01 12:55 + Tony Bowden said: > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 05:00:35AM -0500, Andy Williams wrote: > > Role: SOFTWARE DEVELOPER / MOD_PERL / LINUX / MYSQL > > Skills required: ... > > 6+ years experience as a software developer in the internet industry. > > 6 or more years in the "inte

Re: leon = famous?

2002-01-02 Thread Struan Donald
* at 29/12 13:52 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > leon made kuro5hin: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/12/27/174625/76 heck, he also made ntk and two or three blogs that i've seen. it's not quite how i'd want to go about becoming famous though... s

Re: Dual boot

2001-12-20 Thread Struan Donald
* at 20/12 14:01 + Dominic Mitchell said: > Lucy McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > There already are three Win NT machines squashed into this office, but the > > techs and postdocs tend to hog them. Thanks to everyone for advice. > > I find that using vnc and moving the mouse arou

Re: Dual boot

2001-12-20 Thread Struan Donald
* at 20/12 12:01 + Rafiq Ismail (ADMIN) said: > > It's quite straightforward, however if you can wrangle it such that you > get to use something like vmware you'll probably have sorted yourself out > with a far more elegent solution to using both os's. vmware is nice only if you have shit lo

Re: Dual boot

2001-12-20 Thread Struan Donald
* at 20/12 11:49 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 11:37:14AM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > How painful is it to make a machine Win/Linux dual boot (apart from > > finding another license)? It would make my research s much easier. > > Anyone got any convincing argume

a request

2001-12-19 Thread Struan Donald
hi, being as it is the 19th and all i think now would be as good a time as any to request a moritorium on LOTR discussions for a while for those of us that will not be seeing it until sometime in the new year... either that or at least indicate that's what the dicussion is about. thanks s

Re: T-shirt idea

2001-12-19 Thread Struan Donald
* at 19/12 09:34 +0100 Newton, Philip said: > > Are you saying you type "perl" and hack into standard input, or create a > little source file whenever you want to test the odd item of syntax or > what-not? personally i think there's a lot to be said for using files for this sort of thing. the ma

Re: The Perl Foundation

2001-12-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/12 17:59 + Andy Wardley said: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 03:04:18PM +0000, Struan Donald wrote: > > http://www.kfs.org/~abw/misc/#links > > > > surely one of those should be changed :) > Funny thing is that I started updating those pages about 3 years ago

Re: The Perl Foundation

2001-12-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/12 14:28 + Andy Wardley said: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:48:08PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: > > Please give. I have. > > I haven't (yet) but I made a silly donation-a-thon-a-mometer which you > could use to chart the exciting progress of the fund. (I already mailed > Kurt to

Re: Cleaning up perl distributions?

2001-12-13 Thread Struan Donald
* at 13/12 10:56 + Dominic Mitchell said: > Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Is there a tool or at least an algorithm that could be turned into a > > tool to aid in ensuring there is only one version of each module in a > > perl distribution? > > > > E.g. `locate CGI.pm` reve

Re: Belgos

2001-12-13 Thread Struan Donald
* at 13/12 08:19 + Greg McCarroll said: > > You may also like to be careful, if you are a the top of the stairs in > the pub tonight and Leon comes peddling madly towards you on a little > red tricycle. what a truely disturbing image... although surely it'd be an orange tricycle anyway? s

Re: sort and sub refs

2001-12-10 Thread Struan Donald
* at 10/12 14:15 +0100 Newton, Philip said: > Struan Donald wrote: > > specifically the latter complains about an array being found > > where an operator is expected. > > The indirect object slot is tricky. What's happening is that "sort $scalar" > is theo

sort and sub refs

2001-12-10 Thread Struan Donald
Hi, perhaps someone here can tell me why sub fish { $a <=> $b; } my $sub_ref = \&fish; my @nums = (2, 3, 6, 8, 4, 1, 5); print sort $sub_ref @nums; compiles but sub fish { $a <=> $b; } my $fish = { sort=> \&fish }; my @num

Re: The Geek Syndrome

2001-12-07 Thread Struan Donald
* at 07/12 13:56 + Leon Brocard said: > There's an article in December's Wired magazine entitled The Geek > Syndrome. Finally an interesting article in Wired, you say, well, here > are a couple of choice quotes as I can't find it online: > Oh, go and buy the magazine, I'm not typing the r

Re: Perl Advent Calendar

2001-12-04 Thread Struan Donald
* at 04/12 14:40 +0100 Newton, Philip said: > Mark Fowler wrote: > > I'm finalising the module list, so if there's any you > > particularly want to see go in mail me > > Date::MMDDYY! the advent covers the 1st of april? s

Re: An open letter to Miss Camel

2001-11-30 Thread Struan Donald
* at 30/11 11:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I think the idea here is that Leon isn't the (putative) leader. Amelia > is. But she will delegate 'difficult decision making powers' to > Leon. Well then why not have Leon stand as leader and do the delegation? Amerlia standing seems rather an a

surfraw and cpan

2001-11-23 Thread Struan Donald
heh, No. 2 in an occaional series on making your access to CPAN goodness easier... Some of you I'm sure will be aware of surfraw[1] which allows you to do this sort of thing: $ google camel which then goes off and gives the result for a google search on camel in $browser_of_choice. It lets yo

Re: Another Good Meeting

2001-11-15 Thread Struan Donald
* at 15/11 04:18 -0800 matt jones said: > At 06:59 15/11/01 -0500, Alex Page wrote: > > I heartily agree. I've been wanting to attend tech meetings (as well as > things like dorkbot etc) for several months now, but it's just such a pain > to do these things midweek if you don't live in That Londo

Re: Leadership

2001-11-14 Thread Struan Donald
* at 14/11 13:42 + Matthew Byng-Maddick said: > > I think that counts as 5 nominations for David Cross. > > Dave, you are now in the leadership contest. :-) somehow i'm not sure this was quite what dave had in mind :) s

Re: More Books

2001-11-12 Thread Struan Donald
* at 12/11 19:49 + Dave Cross said: > I have more books from ORA and therefore need more volunteers to review > these books. in case they've not gone in order of preference... > Perl for Web Site Management > XSLT > Network Troubleshooting Tools > Web Design in a Nutshell ta s

Re: contracts

2001-11-09 Thread Struan Donald
* at 09/11 17:41 + robin szemeti said: > On Friday 09 November 2001 15:01, Mark Fowler wrote: > > > Our supply chains are, in the majority, run by cars and trucks and other > > road transport and without them the cities start to starve (both > > metaphorically and literally.) > > indeed. the

Re: Re: TPJ

2001-10-31 Thread Struan Donald
* at 31/10 06:19 -0800 matt jones said: > Robin Houston wrote: > > The entire academic periodical industry is based on the idea that > > authors don't get paid, and it seems to work. I can't imagine Einstein > > not bothering to write up the theory of relativity because he > > wouldn't get paid fo

Re: keyboards

2001-10-25 Thread Struan Donald
* at 25/10 17:29 +0100 Tony Bowden said: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 09:24:23AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > > > > Can anyone suggest a good way to recover a soup-soaked keyboard? > > > Disconnect, soak in water to remove sticky stuff, leave to dry, reconnect? > > Isopropyl alcohol is your friend -

Re: CFT / dim sum / evening meet

2001-10-23 Thread Struan Donald
* at 23/10 16:46 +0100 Geoff Wright said: > Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said : Re: CFT / dim sum / evening meet > > > > is on the south side of London Bridge > > (Err its near Cynthia's Cyber > > Oddly enough if you go further along the road from Cynthia's toward tower > bridge you get to

Re: Late comment on the computer book thread

2001-10-21 Thread Struan Donald
* at 21/10 13:05 -0400 David H. Adler said: > Not that I've actually read *all* of them, but there are two books that > have rather good reputations (and what I have read of them don't seem to > undermine that) which didn't get mentioned. > > SICP (the "wizard" book) /me goes to amazon.co.uk, se

Re: Netiquette was Re: [Perl Jobs] CGI / MySQL developer (onsite), UK, London]

2001-10-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/10 12:41 +0200 Niklas Nordebo said: > > they think people who object are just stupid and old-fashioned and don't > understand that they're above all that since they're Nathans and use > fucking Microsoft Outlook and not some kind of stoneage text mail client > for hippy programmers. ah ye

Re: Advanced mail management

2001-10-02 Thread Struan Donald
* at 01/10 15:56 -0700 Paul Makepeace said: > While I'm on this subject, how do people deal with searching email? > Archival management? (And how that impacts searching?) I will write up a > Web page on all this seeded on whatever comes out of this, if there > isn't one already. grepmail: htt

Re: Cocktails

2001-09-10 Thread Struan Donald
* at 10/09 07:18 -0700 Randal L. Schwartz said: > > "Simon" == Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Simon> "I went back home to Hastings and ordered a lager top and the > Simon> bar man looked at me and said 'you know we don't serve > Simon> cocktails in here Brian'" > > Simon> Sound

Re: Divorcing data storage from business logic

2001-07-09 Thread Struan Donald
* at 09/07 16:24 +0200 Philip Newton said: > Lee Goddard wrote: > > Is there a free alternative to MySQL? > > Define 'free'. MySQL is GPL licensed and can be downloaded and used without > charge. Is that not 'free' in your book? but if it's GPL'd doesn't that mean my computer'll be infected with

Re: Divorcing data storage from business logic

2001-07-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 19/06 22:01 +0100 Robin Szemeti said: > > right .. thats another mail on the long march to the top of the posting > ladder ;) greg'll just 'break' his computer again :) struan

Re: In Defence of Mysql was Re: Divorcing data storage from business logic

2001-07-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/07 11:18 + Greg Cope said: > Struan Donald wrote: > > > > not sure that mysql calls itself an RDBMS. > > > > >From section 1.1 of a recent manual > > > MySQL is a relational database management system. > > A relational database store

Re: In Defence of Mysql was Re: Divorcing data storage from business logic

2001-07-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/07 11:51 +0100 Mark Blackman said: > > Mark Blackman wrote: > > > > > > http://openacs.org/philosophy/why-not-mysql.html > > > > > > is the most detailed argument against mysql. > > > > Is the most detailed argument of why MySQL is not ACID compliant. > > > > Last I heard no database i

Re: In Defence of Mysql was Re: Divorcing data storage from business logic

2001-07-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/07 10:57 +0100 Lee Goddard said: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Struan Donald > Sent: 06 July 2001 10:45 > > > > But I get the impression that the coders have an ethos along the Apache > > > lines - an extensible, modul

Re: In Defence of Mysql was Re: Divorcing data storage from business logic

2001-07-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/07 10:32 +0100 Lee Goddard said: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Struan Donald > Sent: 06 July 2001 09:58 > > > * at 06/07 08:44 + Steve Mynott said: > > > Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >

Re: Big Projects / Variable Backends

2001-07-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/07 10:01 +0100 Piers Cawley said: > > Hmm... Everything I Know About Extreme Programming I Learned From > Watching Buffy The Vampire Slayer. It's a book title. sounds like the book of the pub crawl[1] that is london.pm struan [1] a very leisurely pub crawl with long rests between pubs

Re: In Defence of Mysql was Re: Divorcing data storage from business logic

2001-07-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/07 08:44 + Steve Mynott said: > Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Who said anything about free. MySQL is imply utter shite. > > On the downside the SQL was pretty non-standard and encouraged use of > "extensions" which make it pretty much impossible to port it to any

Re: LinuxExpo/Social

2001-07-04 Thread Struan Donald
* at 04/07 13:02 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: > * Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > [1] The Tomorrow's World live event was rather shiny. Lots of toys, > > including Steve Bennett's 10 metre rocket. > > > > I wonder if we could persuade Steve Bennett to become an honourary > memb

Re: Job

2001-07-04 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/07 21:01 +0100 Chris Benson said: > > 2. By Linux I assume you mean Linux/ix86 ... I've been trying to get > an app running on Linux/PPC for a few weeks on-and-off: I'm definately a > 2nd-class citizen. I wonder how the Linux/MIPS, Linux/ARM, Linux/390 > people get on! heck, i have en

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