Chris Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 08:04:13AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
Chris Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mmm... True Names. Have you seen the new edition of that (True Names
and the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier) with a bunch of essays
inspired by
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 08:58:49AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
Chris Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Interesting that the only other (intentional) fiction in the True Names
book is from rms.
Oh yes. The unintentional fiction that's resulted from the dot.com
crash is faintly amusing all
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 01:23:50AM -0500, David H. Adler wrote:
Narcoleptic groundhogs would be a good name for a band.
Pixel (one of my cats) and his sister Muffin (deceased) used to lie
on me and purr in unison. I nicknaled them the Stereo Chainsaws
because that is what is sounded like. I
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, David H Adler wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:50:14AM -0500, Adam Turoff wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 12:06:01PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote:
The AI equivalent of jetlag perhaps ?
Or just some perverse combination of narcolepsy and groundhog day :-)
Chris Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:09:24AM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
Well yes - we need totally different rules for AIs. Surely if it is really
intelligent, it will have distributed itself through the network, so that
turning it off won't really be possible,
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Alex Gough wrote:
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
Speaking of which, has anyone seen Iris and did you notice Paulin McGlynn
(Mrs Doyle from Father Ted) as nurse?
Yes, and no.
Iris was fantastic though, and is worth being seen.
Rah. Judi Dench for
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 08:04:13AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
Chris Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mmm... True Names. Have you seen the new edition of that (True Names
and the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier) with a bunch of essays
inspired by the story from some of the great and the
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:50:14AM -0500, Adam Turoff wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 12:06:01PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote:
The AI equivalent of jetlag perhaps ?
Or just some perverse combination of narcolepsy and groundhog day. :-)
Narcoleptic groundhogs would be a good name for a band.
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:38:54 +, Simon Wistow wrote:
Say he's wrong and that turning off an AI is like killing it or whatever.
Is it morally wrong to run it on unstable OSs like Windows, MacOS. troll
or Linux /troll
Ignoring the troll, that is a problem, doncha think?
It sounds like a
From: Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:38:54 +, Simon Wistow wrote:
Say he's wrong and that turning off an AI is like killing it or
whatever.
Is it morally wrong to run it on unstable OSs like Windows, MacOS.
troll
or Linux /troll
On the other hand, surely the
* at 26/02 10:58 + Peter Haworth said:
On the other hand, surely the AI has a reasonable chance if you take regular
backups? :-)
but if the OS crashes and then you restore the AI isn't that a little
ethically unsound? in that the AI has died and the you've restored it
,presumably from a
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:09:24AM -, Robert Shiels said:
Well yes - we need totally different rules for AIs. Surely if it is really
intelligent, it will have distributed itself through the network, so that
turning it off won't really be possible, unless you turn the whole internet
off
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Struan Donald wrote:
* at 26/02 10:58 + Peter Haworth said:
On the other hand, surely the AI has a reasonable chance if you take regular
backups? :-)
but if the OS crashes and then you restore the AI isn't that a little
ethically unsound? in that the AI has
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, the hatter wrote:
Erm, if you restore an AI to the state it was in some time ago, why would
it be any more confused than when it was first in that state ? Unless
you're implying that some part of the AI's 'spirit' isn't included in the
backups, but I can't see an easy
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Tony Kennick wrote:
I was assuming the confusion was due to a jump in time. The consciousness
noticing a gap in it's memory compared with observed time.
Would it have any effect on the AIs belief in itself?
Aah, sounds like it could be with being given a fundamental
* at 26/02 11:47 + the hatter said:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Struan Donald wrote:
but if the OS crashes and then you restore the AI isn't that a little
ethically unsound? in that the AI has died and the you've restored it
,presumably from a not fully up to date backup either, no doubt
* the hatter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Erm, if you restore an AI to the state it was in some time ago, why would
it be any more confused than when it was first in that state ?
it would probably be capable of observing things around it, such as
the current headlines of /. (after all the
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:09:24AM -, Robert Shiels said:
Well yes - we need totally different rules for AIs. Surely if it is
really
intelligent, it will have distributed itself through the network, so
that
turning it off won't really be possible,
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:47:57AM +, the hatter said:
Erm, if you restore an AI to the state it was in some time ago, why would
it be any more confused than when it was first in that state ? Unless
you're implying that some part of the AI's 'spirit' isn't included in the
backups, but I
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:47:57AM +, the hatter wrote:
Erm, if you restore an AI to the state it was in some time ago, why would
it be any more confused than when it was first in that state ? Unless
you're implying that some part of the AI's 'spirit' isn't included in the
backups, but I
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, David Cantrell wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:47:57AM +, the hatter wrote:
Erm, if you restore an AI to the state it was in some time ago, why would
it be any more confused than when it was first in that state ? Unless
you're implying that some part of the
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:36:42AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
Exegesis by Astro Teller.
OMFG! That was one of the crappiest books I've ever read! Wow, I'm
sorry you had the misfortune to buy it too.
(Of course, ignore that if you actually liked it :-)
Paul
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:17:57AM +, Struan Donald wrote:
but if the OS crashes and then you restore the AI isn't that a little
ethically unsound? in that the AI has died and the you've restored it
,presumably from a not fully up to date backup either, no doubt
leading to some degree of
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 07:54:22AM -0800, Paul Makepeace said:
Exegesis by Astro Teller.
OMFG! That was one of the crappiest books I've ever read! Wow, I'm
sorry you had the misfortune to buy it too.
(Of course, ignore that if you actually liked it :-)
I got it for a quid from a discount
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:09:24AM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
Well yes - we need totally different rules for AIs. Surely if it is really
intelligent, it will have distributed itself through the network, so that
turning it off won't really be possible, unless you turn the whole internet
off
* Chris Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Shockwave Rider, John Brunner, take out the net to stop a worm releasing
all the secrets.
True Names, Vernor Vinge, destroy the net (nearly) to stop the MailMan.
cool, i forgot this was a thread about SF AI's and read the above as a
real, albeit
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 08:22:16PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Chris Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
cool, i forgot this was a thread about SF AI's and read the above as a
real, albeit strangely written post - its just like war of the worlds
all over again.
Need I say, Greg, you need
* Chris Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Need I say, Greg, you need to get out more. Fortunately the next social
is only 9 days away.
:-)
yes, but its on a tube strike day, and mini-cab drivers don't
understand about half day tube strikes
--
Greg McCarroll
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 09:21:51PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
yes, but its on a tube strike day, and mini-cab drivers don't
understand about half day tube strikes
That's OK, mini-cabs don't get any discount on the central London toll,
so they'll be out of business soon enough anyway.
Roger
* Roger Burton West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
That's OK, mini-cabs don't get any discount on the central London toll,
so they'll be out of business soon enough anyway.
its 5 quid a day, so its not that much over the course of their day's
earnings, i'd make a very educated guess of around at
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 09:20:06PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
That's OK, mini-cabs don't get any discount on the central London toll,
so they'll be out of business soon enough anyway.
Ignorant tourists will surely take up the slack.
20quid for Trafalgar Square to Lewisham? Bargain!
Paul
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Chris Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Need I say, Greg, you need to get out more. Fortunately the next social
is only 9 days away.
yes, but its on a tube strike day, and mini-cab drivers don't
understand about half day tube strikes
This would
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 09:20:06PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
That's OK, mini-cabs don't get any discount on the central London toll,
so they'll be out of business soon enough anyway.
Ignorant tourists will surely take up the slack.
* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Chris Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Need I say, Greg, you need to get out more. Fortunately the next social
is only 9 days away.
yes, but its on a tube strike day, and mini-cab drivers don't
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 12:09:49AM +, jo walsh wrote:
this has been an irrelevant post. i bought a book about neural networks
today. are they any cop?
IME they're what I use when I don't know how to solve the problem, don't
want to know what the solution to the problem is, but want it to
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 12:09:49AM +, jo walsh said:
i have very beautiful green tea from borough market (under the london
bridge railway arches for those who have not been; tagline if we don't
sell it, it's probably not worth eating is it still at risk of closure?
:/ ). a heavy bouquet
David Cantrell wrote:
I've been drinking lots of Chinese tea recently, as opposed to my normal
can't-stand-a-spoon-in-it-cos-the-spoon-would-melt Indian/East African
teas. Whittards do a particularly fine jasmine tea, which I am drinking
right now with a pinch of sugar.
I found out not
'Professor Aleksander said the ethical problem of killing a conscious
computer by switching it off would not arise. The machine would not feel
threatened by such action.
Ignoring the troll, that is a problem, doncha think?
well, ignoring the semantics of a field i know very little about
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:38:54AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
Of *course* small, local shops are
better. It's not even like you can't get the exotic stuff there. I mean,
I know there's convenience but I'd rather walk round borough market,
I'm inclined to agree, but the advantages of a
Simon Wistow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
I *heart* borough market - I just wish I could go there more often. I
can't wait for summer again so I can go and then go and sit by the
Anchor and look over the river and have a pint and ...
But the Anchor is closed for a refurb :-(
Jonathan Peterson wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
I've been drinking lots of Chinese tea recently, as opposed to my normal
can't-stand-a-spoon-in-it-cos-the-spoon-would-melt Indian/East African
teas. Whittards do a particularly fine jasmine tea, which I am drinking
right now with a
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:38:54AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
http://education.guardian.co.uk/egweekly/story/0,5500,565525,00.html
``Professor Warwick is perhaps best known for becoming the first cyborg,
when he had an implant that allowed his office to react to his presence.
Next month, he
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:38:54AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
http://education.guardian.co.uk/egweekly/story/0,5500,565525,00.html
``Professor Warwick is perhaps best known for becoming the first cyborg,
when he had an implant that allowed his
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, the hatter wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, jo walsh wrote:
this has been an irrelevant post. i bought a book about neural networks
today. are they any cop?
They have their uses. Though they're used for lots of things which
they're not ideally suited to. Possibly
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 09:24:19PM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
Gosh, isn't the webternet fantastic. C'mon you avid Earl Grey drinkers,
this is s'posed to be a thread about tea. Actually, Earl Grey is
disgusting. /troll
I've been drinking lots of Chinese tea recently, as opposed to my
I've been drinking lots of Chinese tea recently, as opposed to my normal
can't-stand-a-spoon-in-it-cos-the-spoon-would-melt Indian/East African
teas. Whittards do a particularly fine jasmine tea, which I am drinking
right now with a pinch of sugar.
i have very beautiful green tea from
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
Speaking of which, has anyone seen Iris and did you notice Paulin McGlynn
(Mrs Doyle from Father Ted) as nurse?
Yes, and no.
Iris was fantastic though, and is worth being seen.
Alex Gough
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Roger Burton West wrote:
Actually this is first-year Economics (or was on my course anyway).
Paul's suggestion works in a situation of perfect competition and
homogeneous goods - e.g. 2 litres of Coke is just as good as 2 litres of
Pepsi. When you introduce advertising
* at 18/02 17:57 -0600 Chris Devers said:
But what then? The more I study this, the more all the sides just sound
hopelessly naive wrongheaded, but I can't offer any better suggestions.
we should all just rememember to be nice to each other and get along :)
s
* Peter Sergeant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Roger Burton West wrote:
Actually this is first-year Economics (or was on my course anyway).
Paul's suggestion works in a situation of perfect competition and
homogeneous goods - e.g. 2 litres of Coke is just as good as 2
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 10:22:12AM +, Greg McCarroll said:
Bringing this all back to computing, John Sculley, who worked for
Pepsi and was CEO of Apple for a while, was very keen on the taste
test challenge between Pepsi and Coke, the simple reason was that cos
Pepsi was sweeter it won in
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 01:37:17PM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
That's just an indication of ignorance. See also Pret a Porter - Ready
to Wear.
cf. The Madness of King George
Tony
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
symbian
this name wasn't choosen at random, it comes from symbiosis,
i.e. living together for mutual benefit. which reflects exactly what
the company is about, at least in the eyes of its owners,
Ericsson/Sony/Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Matsushita,
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 09:05:49AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
symbian
this name wasn't choosen at random, it comes from symbiosis,
i.e. living together for mutual benefit. which reflects exactly what
the company is about, at least in the eyes
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 10:12:20AM +, Paul Mison said:
[ snip bits about adding letters ]
That was the second bit I was going to add but I scooted to work before
the traditional Monday Morning Victoria Line madness.
Mind you, I'm with Simon on syzygy. A rather obscure astronomical term
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Paul Mison wrote:
Generally these names, stupid as they sound, do have some relevance.
What about Accenture then ?
/J\
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:12:39AM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Paul Mison wrote:
Generally these names, stupid as they sound, do have some relevance.
What about Accenture then ?
It sends a message about the company: We lost the lawsuit which would
have let us use the name
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:12:39AM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Paul Mison wrote:
Generally these names, stupid as they sound, do have some relevance.
What about Accenture then ?
OK, fair enough, that one's got me. Although maybe they 'highlight' or
'accent' the
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Giving up Marathons wasn't so hard but Opal Fruits was more of a problem.
Up until last year I could still ask for a Marathon and the shopkeeper
wouldn't bat an eyelid and hand over the correct chocolate bar [1]. Last
year was the first time I got Sorry? we
Barbie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Giving up Marathons wasn't so hard but Opal Fruits was more of a
problem.
Up until last year I could still ask for a Marathon and the shopkeeper
wouldn't bat an eyelid and hand over the correct chocolate bar
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 10:12:20AM +, Paul Mison wrote:
Mind you, I'm with Simon on syzygy. A rather obscure astronomical term
doesn't seem to have any resonance with their business; I'm fairly
certain it was chosen because it 'looks cool'.
from dictionary.com:
The combining of two feet
--- Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Simon
Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Giving up Marathons wasn't so hard but Opal Fruits
was more of a problem.
Ok so which one was the Marathon? I forget. Unless a
company has been shown to have committed egregious
sins (slavery, etc) I consume strictly
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
By globalised I meant when a brand has been changed to fit in with a
more homegenised global ideal.
But it's being changed to fit in with a more homogenised global ideal.
They're being changed because it's a whole lot easier
From: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* at 18/02 10:46 + Simon Wistow said:
[0] I won't buy any 'globalised' brands for a start.
how do you square this with owning computers and the like? it's always
struck me as the problem with being in this industry and worried about
these things
* at 18/02 12:59 + Rob Partington said:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
By globalised I meant when a brand has been changed to fit in with a
more homegenised global ideal.
But it's being changed to fit in with a more homogenised global ideal.
Rob Partington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
But it's being changed to fit in with a more homogenised global ideal.
They're being changed because it's a whole lot easier dealing with one
brand name. I read a rationale somewhere about the SuperMop (I think)
that pointed out that having
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 01:16:29PM +, Mark Fowler said:
So, what are your feelings on the Americans renaming the harry potter film
then? Good? Bad?
That's just an indication of ignorance. See also Pret a Porter - Ready
to Wear.
It's dumbing down. How are people going to learn if you
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Branded clothing is in no way guaranteed to be better than quality. My
Vans fall apart very quickly and my Levis split at the crotch.
well take them back then, and have them replaced for free. That's why we buy
brands, because we have a comeback if they're
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Robert Shiels wrote:
I'm not saying BTW that I like globalisation, I dislike it a lot. I went to
a shopping centre in Manchester at the weekend, and looked in a discount
book store. They had the same books, for the same price, as the shop in
Slough. This surprised me,
* at 18/02 14:00 - Robert Shiels said:
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Branded clothing is in no way guaranteed to be better than quality. My
Vans fall apart very quickly and my Levis split at the crotch.
well take them back then, and have them replaced for free. That's why we
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Look at this way. Think about the average person. Well, the bell curve
dictates that 50% of people are more stupid than that. That's
depressing. But pandering to the left hand side isn't going to help
things. It's just going to keep shifting the curve
On 18/02/02 13:35 +, Sue Spence wrote:
--- Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By globalised I meant when a brand has been changed
to fit in with a
more homegenised global ideal.
FWIW, the US already had a Marthon bar (it looked like
a Curly Wurly). That's probably the
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:34:38PM -, Barbie wrote:
Your system clock is way out. Start hiding from Herr Mison now :)
--
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:34:38PM -, Barbie said:
been declining. Perhaps in part to the fact that kids are more likely to be
taught by the images of Ronald McDonald and the like on TV than having their
parents taking the time and effort to provide a basic grasp of the real
world.
In a
From: Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:34:38PM -, Barbie wrote:
Your system clock is way out. Start hiding from Herr Mison now :)
That was me buggering about trying to test things earlier and forgot while
posting.
Cheers Rich.
Barbie.
From: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Branded clothing is in no way guaranteed to be better than quality. My
Vans fall apart very quickly and my Levis split at the crotch.
well take them back then, and have them replaced for free. That's why we
buy
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's odd. People claim they're paying for quality when they buy DG but
won't buy better quality frying pans or kitchen knifes that will last
them a life time and end up buying cheap shit instead.
Probably because they can't afford to buy decent kitchen
Barbie == phughes Barbie writes:
Barbie And perhaps not too surprisingly the intelligence of the
Barbie average person has been declining.
It has? I wouldn't say so. I'd say that search engines and net access
make us more intelligent than we've ever been, if you equate
intelligence
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 02:56:32PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
built in shoddiness is against the law, if they aren't fit for the purpose,
then the shop must replace them or give you a refund. This is something
that's wrong with the UK, people don't exert this right because they don't
like
From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know why everyone is so down on Levis though, I've been wearing
their jeans for years with no problem. And non-branded stuff from markets
is
generally low quality, and cannot be returned, I see no straw man there.
I guess it must depend on the
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 02:56:32PM -, Robert Shiels said:
built in shoddiness is against the law, if they aren't fit for the purpose,
then the shop must replace them or give you a refund. This is something
that's wrong with the UK, people don't exert this right because they don't
like to
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 02:56:32PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
From: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and the point about the non branded is kind of a straw man. just
'cause levi's are a bit better than the bloke down the market stall
doesn't make it right. the point is that levi's et al are
* at 18/02 14:59 + Jonathan Peterson said:
Hey, I like Levi's!
just an example :)
There's a difference between the brandname thing and the globalisation
thing. Brands have been qith us for a while, and people have been buying
brands for the sake of the brand for hundreds of years.
on 18/2/02 2:56 pm, Robert Shiels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And non-branded stuff from markets is generally low quality, and cannot
be returned, I see no straw man there. The T-shirt looks great, but
wash it and it loses it's shape and colour. Branded stuff in shops has
a decent
Please kill this thread or move it to ::scr
--
Dave Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hire http://www.davehodgkinson.com
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com
Interim Technical Director, Web Architecture Consultant for hire
On 18 Feb 2002, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Please kill this thread or move it to ::scr
no, hang on, i can see an analogy, i can see it.
rshiels wrote
I can walk into a BK restaurant anywhere in the world and know exactly
what I'm eating. Same for Pizza Hut et al.
or
I can turn on an intel pc
on 18/2/02 4:01 pm, Dave Hodgkinson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please kill this thread or move it to ::scr
Oh, I thought ::scr was supposed to be an on-topic tech list. Even less
appropriate for this discussion than London.pm. Ramblings on globalisation
are much more (void)-y, I'd imagine.
From: Sue Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmmm, so intelligence equates to memorization of
meaningless facts?
Nope, that was just a memorable moment.
Color me unconvinced
Hmmm. Is that globalisation or not setting language ;)
Education has suffered badly in recent years, and there have been many
on 18/2/02 4:34 pm, Barbie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Education has suffered badly in recent years, and there have been many
examples in the news in the last years that should convince you. Plus,
kids are more prone to lack of parental education/guidance than they
were 20+ years ago.
Heh,
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:15:07AM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
So no Tetley[1] for us then. If I buy it, will you still drink the cups
of tea [2]?
tea++
yes. tea++
[1] Tea, not beer.
[2] Actually we drink PG. Or proper English Breakfast when we're feeling
more Islington.
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 04:01:22PM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Please kill this thread or move it to ::scr
Wierd - I was actually enjoying reading this thread! I often don't
read threads on this list. Maybe if you don't like the thread, you
should just not read it? At least it is not
Chris Carline wrote:
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 04:14:20PM +, Sue Spence wrote:
Hmmm, so intelligence equates to memorization of
meaningless facts?
Not being able to name the monarch equates to appalling ignorance.
Whether ignorance equates to intelligence is another matter, but they
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 01:37:17PM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
That's just an indication of ignorance. See also Pret a Porter - Ready
to Wear.
Porter means primarily to carry, so ready to go. The wear meaning is,
AFAIK, a related sense of carry.
It's dumbing down. How are people going to
That sentiment was expressed too by Einstein who claimed not to remember
his phone number on the basis someone else had it written down (i.e.
in the phone book).
If you subscribe to the 'learning through doing' theory then that explains
why I can never remember my phone extension (i.e. its
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 03:39:36PM +, Struan Donald wrote:
big-snip/
globalising your product line is cheaper but it leads to
worse products as they then have to be all things to all people hence
compromising on features in order to make them more global.
I don't see that as a logical
* at 18/02 16:00 - Robert Shiels said:
From: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
however you look at it globalisation is only good for the large
companies and not for anyone else.
sorry for snipping everything, but I have no idea how you can come to that
conclusion. I'm not for it, but
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
Is Whittard a particularly southern thing - as implied by the full name,
Whittard of Chelsea - or are my family particularly incompetent at
Christmas shopping?
Well, there's almost 100 stores throughout the UK listed on their website
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 04:37:42PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
Theoretically decreasing overhead means decreased prices for consumers,
but we all know that never happens in the real world.
I'm pretty sure I'm paying less for an 80GB of harddrive storage now
than I would've paid two years ago.
* at 18/02 13:51 -0800 Paul Makepeace said:
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 04:37:42PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
Theoretically decreasing overhead means decreased prices for consumers,
but we all know that never happens in the real world.
I'm pretty sure I'm paying less for an 80GB of harddrive
On Mon, 2002-02-18 at 16:51, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 04:37:42PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
Theoretically decreasing overhead means decreased prices for consumers,
but we all know that never happens in the real world.
I'm pretty sure I'm paying less for an 80GB of
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