[Lsr] 答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-09-25 Thread Aijun Wang
(“Extended IS Reachability” and “Extended IP Reachability”), and leaves many unsolved, or in chaos states/possibilities. I am wondering how the WG chairs can put forward this document in current content. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org

[Lsr] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-09-13 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Tony:The aim of the standard is to improve and assure the interoperability, and correct the vendor that doesn’t comply it.If the proposed document can’t achieve such goal, what’s the gain to forward the document to RFC?Aijun WangChina TelecomOn Sep 13, 2024, at 14:13, Tony Li wrote:Hi Jimmy,I

[Lsr] 答复: It's time to find one general solution to Big-TLV problem(Re: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-big-tlv-00.txt)

2024-09-11 Thread Aijun Wang
ion for every IS-IS (Possible Big) TLV code point, and also the necessity of per-TLV capability announcement. Any comments are welcome. Best Regards Aijun Wang On behalf of the co-authors -邮件原件- 发件人: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org] 发送时间: 2024年9月11日 1

[Lsr] Re: 【Major Issues Unsolved】I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv-05.txt

2024-09-06 Thread Aijun Wang
-TLV problem. I can't see other values except the key definition of TLV 22 and TLV 135 from the current version. Following such direction, the operator will be busy to coordinate the vendors, the deployment for the opened Pandora's box Best Regards Aijun Wang China Tele

[Lsr] Re: 【Please Abandon this WGLC document】答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-09-04 Thread Aijun Wang
mail offended the WG chairs, i apologize for my negligence. But the technical appeal will be undergone if there is no more change or updates for the WGLC document. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Sep 4, 2024, at 17:51, Gunter van de Velde (Nokia) > wrote: > > Hi Aijun, > >

[Lsr] 答复: Re: 【Please Abandon this WGLC document】答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-09-02 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Chris: Please give the proof where is the WG's consensus? We all can see and retrieve all the responses from its WGLC process publicly. Please note: The chairs' preference doesn’t represent the WG's consensus. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: f

[Lsr] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-08-28 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Les:If the following key points can’t be solved, what the meaning to wrap around, around and around… …the wording games?1) If there is no key definition for each MP-TLV capable codepoint, how to fragment and concatenate the sliced MP-TLV?2) If there is no indication for the capabilities of whic

[Lsr] 答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-08-09 Thread Aijun Wang
es lead no interoperability? Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) [mailto:ginsb...@cisco.com] 发送时间: 2024年8月9日 15:19 收件人: Aijun Wang ; bruno.decra...@orange.com; 'Yingzhen Qu' ; 'lsr' ; 'lsr-chairs' 主题: RE: [Lsr] Re: WG Last Cal

[Lsr] 答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-08-09 Thread Aijun Wang
s will be emerged for >the undefined “key” field part of the one code point. Anyone understands the process of segment/concatenate process should be aware the exact “key” field, why do we argue it constantly for this obvious requirements? Best Regards Aijun Wang Chin

[Lsr] Re: 答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-08-08 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Chris: Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Aug 8, 2024, at 20:53, Christian Hopps wrote: > > [As WG member] > > I'm neutral on whether the RFC should try and identify what the specific key > is for all the existing TLVs; however, I think the current draft does define

[Lsr] 答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-08-08 Thread Aijun Wang
with the large packet within the network. Then, without definition of such “key” information within the proposed document, we can’t say we have solved the aimed problem. On the contrary, it introduces more chaos within the network. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人

[Lsr] 答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-08-06 Thread Aijun Wang
please point it out clearly in which part of the document. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 发送时间: 2024年8月7日 10:57 收件人: Aijun Wang ; bruno.decra...@orange.com; 'Ketan Talau

[Lsr] 答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-08-06 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Les: If there is no key, how “focused on the conceptual use of the key in support of multi-TLV.”? And, how do you distinguish the situation that you described as “stale/current” replacement and both “current”? Will it arise another interoperable problem? Best Regards Aijun

[Lsr] 答复: Re: 答复: 【What's the reason to move forward this document to be published?】答复: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv-03.txt

2024-08-04 Thread Aijun Wang
t we need other creative solution to solve such issue in one extensible manner. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Tony Li 发送时间: 2024年8月5日 12:40 收件人: Aijun Wang 抄送: lsr@ietf.org 主题: [Lsr] Re: 答复: 【Wh

[Lsr] 答复: 【What's the reason to move forward this document to be published?】答复: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv-03.txt

2024-08-04 Thread Aijun Wang
give to clue to the vendors to implement it /s give no clue to the vendors to implement it. -邮件原件- 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Aijun Wang 发送时间: 2024年8月5日 9:56 收件人: lsr@ietf.org 主题: [Lsr] 【What's the reason to move forward this docume

[Lsr] 【What's the reason to move forward this document to be published?】答复: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv-03.txt

2024-08-04 Thread Aijun Wang
vendors to implement it. Look forward the WG, or IESG abandon it. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 邮件原件- 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 internet-dra...@ietf.org 发送时间: 2024年8月3日 9:08 收件人: i-d-annou...@ietf.org 抄送: lsr@ietf.org 主题: [Lsr]

[Lsr] 答复: Re: [Proxy of LSA Originator]Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

2024-07-16 Thread Aijun Wang
Such protocol extension is more clear to solve the mentioned race condition, and is more traceable. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Tony Li 发送时间: 2024年7月17日 11:39 收件人: Aijun Wang 抄送: Christian Hopps ;

[Lsr] 答复: Re: [Proxy of LSA Originator]Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

2024-07-16 Thread Aijun Wang
the neighbors around the restarting router to pause the advertisement of updated LSAs that related to the interfaces connects to the restarting router, which is one typical " cache synchronization problems " that you mentioned. Why don't clear the stale LSPs in advance by the p

[Lsr] Re: [Proxy of LSA Originator]Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

2024-07-15 Thread Aijun Wang
and still is. Let's not go there-- tony On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 1:26 PM Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn> wrote:Hi, Acee:If you think all of the solutions are not perfect, can we find other solutions, such as assigning/selecting in advance one proxy router for the possible disrupt

[Lsr] Re: [Proxy of LSA Originator]Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

2024-07-15 Thread Aijun Wang
guing for a more complete solution.   Les  From: Tony Przygienda Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 11:23 AM To: Acee Lindem Cc: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Liyan Gong ; Aijun Wang ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr ; lsr-chairs ; shraddha Subject: Re: [Lsr] About Premature aging of LSA and

[Lsr] Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

2024-07-11 Thread Aijun Wang
direct connected routers?And, your proposal needs the changes of the state machines of the current OSPF implementation, it is unconvinced that you call them “simpler”.Aijun WangChina TelecomOn Jul 11, 2024, at 23:28, Acee Lindem wrote:As WG member: On Jul 11, 2024, at 05:29, Aijun Wang wrote:And

[Lsr] 答复: 答复: Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

2024-07-11 Thread Aijun Wang
And, there is also another draft aims to solve the similar problem https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cheng-lsr-ospf-adjacency-suppress-02, which it declares similar with the solution in IS-IS. Why not take this approach? Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人

[Lsr] 答复: Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

2024-07-11 Thread Aijun Wang
...@ietf.org] 代表 Acee Lindem 发送时间: 2024年7月10日 22:14 收件人: Aijun Wang 抄送: Peter Psenak ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr ; lsr-chairs ; tony Przygienda ; shraddha 主题: [Lsr] Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA Yes - but the whole discussion of adjacency suppression and database synchronization is based on

[Lsr] 答复: Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

2024-07-09 Thread Aijun Wang
For the unplanned restart, shouldn’t the responsibility of the directed connect neighbors to send out such LSAs for the purge of obsolete LSA? Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Acee Lindem 发送时间: 2024年7

[Lsr] About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

2024-07-09 Thread Aijun Wang
router restart, it needs only send out the Purge LSA(when LSA sequence number is not to wrap) or premature aging of its LSA.(when sequence number is to wrap) Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Acee Lindem 发送时间

[Lsr] 答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-07-04 Thread Aijun Wang
for each key field definition of the MP-TLV later? In summarize, there is no obvious points that can support to forward this document that can lead to more chaos in network than not deploying it at all. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg

[Lsr] 答复: Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-multi-tlv (7/1/2024 - 7/15/2024)

2024-07-03 Thread Aijun Wang
ned question, will only lead to more chaos within the network. We should not forward this document at the current stage. More works should be done to solve the issue. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf

[Lsr] 【Please extend the adoption call for one more week】答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-18 Thread Aijun Wang
draft to solve these limitations. Or else, we expect to discuss them further and more deeper in the coming times. As operators, we expect to find one more attractive solution. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-18 Thread Aijun Wang
e the same services. The difference is that the path attributes(internal links and stub link) to them. Wish the above explanations can address your concerns. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Les Gin

Re: [Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-18 Thread Aijun Wang
the most onerous one?Aijun WangChina TelecomOn Jan 18, 2024, at 17:29, Aijun Wang wrote:Hi, Les: 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)发送时间: 2024年1月18日 0:16收件人: Aijun Wang 抄送: Christian Hopps ; Huzhibo ; Acee Lindem ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-18 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Les: 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 发送时间: 2024年1月18日 0:16 收件人: Aijun Wang 抄送: Christian Hopps ; Huzhibo ; Acee Lindem ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr@ietf.org 主题: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-18 Thread Aijun Wang
, the proposed solution is more efficient that the existing solution. The operator can omit many onerous work. And, the proposed solution is not only for topology recovery, it can also cover other use cases(for example A.2/A.3) Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-16 Thread Aijun Wang
inline.   From: Aijun Wang Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 12:18 AM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; 'Christian Hopps' ; 'Huzhibo' Cc: 'Acee Lindem' ; 'Yingzhen Qu' ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: 答复: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attribut

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-16 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Les: -邮件原件- 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 发送时间: 2024年1月16日 0:16 收件人: Christian Hopps ; Huzhibo 抄送: Acee Lindem ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr@ietf.org 主题: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Acee: 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Acee Lindem 发送时间: 2024年1月16日 6:44 收件人: Aijun Wang 抄送: Christian Hopps ; Liyan Gong ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr ; lsr-chairs 主题: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Aijun Wang
configuration simplification arguments. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Jan 15, 2024, at 20:19, Christian Hopps wrote: > >  > >> On Jan 15, 2024, at 06:27, Aijun Wang wrote: >> >> Hi, Chris: >> >> There are significant changes from the last adoption c

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Aijun Wang
/RFC5392), but how many operators have deployed them in the network? Are anyone considering the reason that hinders their deployments? Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Jan 15, 2024, at 17:35, Christian Hopps wrote: >  > Liyan Gong writes: > >> Hi WG, >> >&

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-10 Thread Aijun Wang
. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Christian Hopps 发送时间: 2024年1月10日 18:17 收件人: Huzhibo 抄送: Acee Lindem ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr@ietf.org 主题: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-09 Thread Aijun Wang
also other cases(for example, A.2, which is not the inter-AS scenarios) that can utilize these attributes of the stub links. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Peter Psenak 发送时间: 2024年1月10日 1:08 收件人

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-08 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Les: 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 发送时间: 2024年1月9日 5:03 收件人: Yingzhen Qu ; lsr ; lsr-chairs 主题: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) I oppose WG adoption. T

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-08 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Acee: 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Acee Lindem 发送时间: 2024年1月9日 3:03 收件人: Yingzhen Qu 抄送: lsr 主题: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) Speaking as WG member: I don’t support adopti

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-07 Thread Aijun Wang
, A.3. Wish to get to your support to forward and refine it. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Yingzhen Qu 发送时间: 2024年1月6日 8:23 收件人: lsr ; lsr-chairs 主题: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv (11/17/2023 - 12/09/2023)

2023-11-29 Thread Aijun Wang
and receiving of the multi-part of this TLV. Or else, we should think other solution to solve this issue. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Tony Li 发送时间: 2023年11月29日 0:49 收件人: Aijun Wang 抄送: Yingzhen Qu

[Lsr] 答复: 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv (11/17/2023 - 12/09/2023)

2023-11-26 Thread Aijun Wang
interoperability? Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Aijun Wang 发送时间: 2023年11月24日 16:11 收件人: 'Yingzhen Qu' ; draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-...@ietf.org; 'lsr' 主题: [Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draf

[Lsr] 答复: I-D Action: draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes-07.txt

2023-11-24 Thread Aijun Wang
sues or not, for the scenario, for the solution, for the encoding etc. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Acee Lindem 发送时间: 2023年11月16日 3:56 收件人: Aijun Wang 抄送: Christian Hopps ; Yingzhen

[Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv (11/17/2023 - 12/09/2023)

2023-11-24 Thread Aijun Wang
on the needs of the deployment scenarios in which it is used”-Will there be many interoperability issues arises then? And also varies loop accidents within the network when all of vendors declare they support “MP-TLV” but not all of the relevant TLVs? Best Regards Aijun Wang China

[Lsr] 答复: Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-19 Thread Aijun Wang
we are even arguing about this :-( On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 1:50 PM Aijun Wang mailto:wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn> > wrote: Hi, Ketan: The logic is that why we can set router-id equal to 0.0.0.0 to indicate some information in some standards, but we can’t set prefix originator infor

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-15 Thread Aijun Wang
ive of the arguments/logic provided.Let us agree to disagree.At least I've concluded that it is no more fruitful for me to try to convince you. C'est la vie ...Thanks,KetanOn Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 11:08 AM Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn> wrote:Hi, Ketan:There are many examples

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-07 Thread Aijun Wang
still following this thread).On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 9:54 AM Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn> wrote:Hi, Ketan and Les:There are two sub-TLVs to indicate the source information of the prefix within OSPF——“Prefix Source OSPF Router ID” and “Prefix Source OSPF Router Address”What’s you re

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-07 Thread Aijun Wang
(ginsberg) Cc: John Drake ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; Aijun Wang ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement   Hi Les,   I disagree with your reading of RFC9084 (OSPF Prefix Originator).   Sec 1 This document proposes extensions to the

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-06 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Peter: Let’s focus on the technical analysis/comparison for the mentioned issues, and don’t repeat the subjective comments that without any solid analysis. Detail replies inline below. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Nov 6, 2023, at 14:53, Peter Psenak wrote: > > Aijun, >

[Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-06 Thread Aijun Wang
carefully before evaluating and adopted any proposal. If the above issues can’t be solved, we request the WG to adopt also the https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement/,which cover and solve all of the above issues. Aijun Wang China

[Lsr] 答复: 【Request AD Step In】 Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-10-31 Thread Aijun Wang
rgies to accomplish the final implementation and deployment. Some detail responses are inline below. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 John Scudder 发送时间: 2023年11月1日 6:02 收件人: Aijun Wang 抄送: lsr ;

Re: [Lsr] 答复: 【Request AD Step In】 Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-10-17 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, John: What’s your responses to this issue and my proposal then? We need your guidances. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Sep 20, 2023, at 17:22, Aijun Wang wrote: > > Hi, Acee, John: > > My proposal to solve the issue is that we can discuss the merge possibility > fo

[Lsr] 答复: 【Request AD Step In】 Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-20 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Tom: My appeal is that it's unfair to ignore the draft that was put forward THREE years earlier than the follower, and we devote intense discussions for this topic along the process, but there is no adoption call. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: lsr

[Lsr] 答复: 【Request AD Step In】 Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-20 Thread Aijun Wang
to ignore the adoption call of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement/, Detail replies are inline below. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: lsr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Acee Lindem 发送时间: 2023年9月16日 1:16

Re: [Lsr] 【Request AD Step In】 Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-15 Thread Aijun Wang
, I’ll review the mailing list discussion. However, the most desirable outcome would be to settle things at the WG level without further escalation.—JohnOn Sep 14, 2023, at 12:25 PM, tom petch wrote:From: Lsr on behalf of Aijun Wang Sent: 14 September 2023 11:38Hi, Acee:I admire your efforts for the

[Lsr] 【Request AD Step In】 Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-14 Thread Aijun Wang
ution and ignore the initiator. We started and lead the discussions THREE years earlier than the current proposal. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Sep 8, 2023, at 23:16, Acee Lindem wrote: > > The WG adoption call has completed and there is more than sufficient support > for adoptio

[Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-06 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Acee: It‘s you that repeat the FALSE statements. What I can do is to give you the FACT again. Please see inline below for the response to your FALSE statements. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: Acee Lindem [mailto:acee.i...@gmail.com] 发送时间: 2023年9月6日 20:44 收件人

Re: [Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-06 Thread Aijun Wang
erged document to the LSR WG for adoption call.my 2c,PeterOn 06/09/2023 07:56, Aijun Wang wrote:Hi, Acee:AGAIN, before making some assertions, please check the following fact:Have you noticed the 00 version of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-event-notification/ was submitt

[Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-05 Thread Aijun Wang
solution. As one of the most important WG within IETF, I think LSR WG should respect the original contributions to the WG. It is too hurry to consider or adopt only the draft that you prefer, especially the follower draft. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: lsr-boun

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-01 Thread Aijun Wang
-ppsenak(March 25,2022)Then, which draft copy or incorporate which draft?Aijun WangChina TelecomOn Sep 1, 2023, at 20:05, Acee Lindem wrote:Hi Aijun, On Aug 31, 2023, at 23:36, Aijun Wang wrote:Hi,Acee: Please read https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement

[Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Aijun Wang
switchovered.” Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: lsr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Acee Lindem 发送时间: 2023年9月1日 0:50 收件人: Robert Raszuk 抄送: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Huzhibo ; Peter Psenak ; linchangwang ; lsr 主题: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of &quo

[Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Les: Please do not mislead the experts within the LSR. Detail replies are inline below. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: lsr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 发送时间: 2023年8月31日 22:49 收件人: Huzhibo ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak

[Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-30 Thread Aijun Wang
://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/r-qLlA2JW-JOLVf_LBlEXwE01jE/ Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: lsr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 发送时间: 2023年8月31日 10:57 收件人: Huzhibo ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; linchangwang ; Acee Lindem ; lsr 抄

Re: [Lsr] Regd draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement

2023-08-29 Thread Aijun Wang
diffs across the 13 versions illustrate the history and evolution.I am unable to explain in ways other than what has been already done in the past threads.Thanks,KetanOn Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 1:33 PM Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn> wrote:Hi, Ketan:Which part in https://datatracker.

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Ketan:Which part in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement/ is not workable?I want to remind you again that it is the above draft initiates the problem first, insists that the explicit signaling was the direction, covers more scenarios that draft-ppsenak

[Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-24 Thread Aijun Wang
om the above foundation information, I would like to hear why you can't >admit that draft >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement/ > is the first document that provide the problem and the explicit signaling >mechanism. Best Regards Aij

[Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-24 Thread Aijun Wang
://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement/ The LSR WG should consider to adopt the more comprehensive and simple solution, not the partial and complex design. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -邮件原件- 发件人: lsr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Acee

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes-07.txt

2023-06-04 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, All Experts: The main updates of this version is that we put the newly defined "OSPF Stub-Link TLV" back into the Inter-AS-TE-v2 LSA and Inter-AS-TE-v3 LSA for OSPFv2/v3 respectively. Your comments are welcome. We think it is ready for the WG adoption call then. Best Regards

Re: [Lsr] PUA&UPA Converge Efforts(LSInfinity or MaxAge)

2023-03-28 Thread Aijun Wang
n the network long time. Exploitable this value is straightforward to be implemented/deployed.Aijun WangChina TelecomOn Mar 27, 2023, at 15:02, Aijun Wang wrote:Hi, Bruno:Let me answer some questions from you based on the current PUA solution. From the inline replies, we think the converged draft shou

Re: [Lsr] Interdomain UPA & UP Flag

2023-03-28 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Shraddha: The PUA/UPA message is mainly for control plane switch over, not for data plane switch over. For the planned maintenance, the controller plane switch over should be planned as well. It doesn’t need IGP to step in. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Mar 29, 2023, at 00:29, Shrad

Re: [Lsr] Interdomain UPA & UP Flag

2023-03-28 Thread Aijun Wang
The following sentence should be: > If it is planned, why the overlay service being switched over as scheduled? If it is planned, why doesn’t the overlay service be switched over as scheduled? Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Mar 28, 2023, at 19:53, Aijun Wang wrote: > >

Re: [Lsr] Interdomain UPA & UP Flag

2023-03-28 Thread Aijun Wang
the accident network failures. Please pay more attentions to other aspects of such mechanism. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Mar 28, 2023, at 18:51, Peter Psenak > wrote: > > On 28/03/2023 11:41, Aijun Wang wrote: >> There is already overload bit to accomplish the maintenance p

Re: [Lsr] Interdomain UPA & UP Flag

2023-03-28 Thread Aijun Wang
There is already overload bit to accomplish the maintenance purposes, Why do you guys repeat such work again? Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Mar 28, 2023, at 18:00, Shraddha Hegde > wrote: > >  > Hi Robert, > > > Second, if you say this is needed for BGP free dep

Re: [Lsr] Interdomain UPA & UP Flag

2023-03-27 Thread Aijun Wang
Agree. The possible scenario for UP flag is not the original intention of our discussion. We should abandon it and focus mainly on the other aspects of the solution. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Mar 27, 2023, at 17:06, Robert Raszuk wrote: > >  > Hi, > > I woul

[Lsr] PUA&UPA Converge Efforts—-Re: draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-03-26 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Bruno:Let me answer some questions from you based on the current PUA solution. From the inline replies, we think the converged draft should be based on PUA draft.Aijun WangChina TelecomOn Mar 27, 2023, at 14:00, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Hi authors,   Please find below some que

Re: [Lsr] Two small potential typing errors in draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2023-02-14 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Les:As I remembered, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-isis-extended-hierarchy/  will not be forwarded, and the proposed hierarchy within ISIS is not practical.Then, it seems that we can still treat area same as the level 1.  It’s the time to reduce the confusion?Aijun WangChina T

Re: [Lsr] Two small potential typing errors in draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2023-02-14 Thread Aijun Wang
What’s the reason to keep area in the description? Is there any flooding activities that based on area?I suggest also remove the mention of area in these descriptions.Aijun WangChina TelecomOn Feb 14, 2023, at 18:16, Chris Parker wrote:Thank you to all who replied for your consideration, and than

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce / UPA IS-IS semantics

2022-11-12 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Robert: > "other than building the normal IP routing table" There may be different purposes, so advertise the “unreachable within the summary address” should be signed explicitly. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Nov 12, 2022, at 11:59, Robert Raszuk wrote

Re: [Lsr] OSPF-GT

2022-11-10 Thread Aijun Wang
in some sense. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Nov 10, 2022, at 10:48, Robert Raszuk wrote: > >  > Thx Acee ... > > Since you mentioned "sparse" and since you highlighted that OSPF is better > then ISIS for this as it runs over IP I took a risk if not using flood

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce / UPA IS-IS semantics

2022-11-10 Thread Aijun Wang
no more constrained for the network planning, network operations. There are already amounts of solutions cannot be deployed widespread in the network. Let’s take the explicit signaling approaches. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Nov 10, 2022, at 10:41, Peter Psenak > wrote: > &g

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce / UPA IS-IS semantics

2022-11-09 Thread Aijun Wang
team. Aijun Wang China Telecom > >> I wasn't clear on that in the first mail but Bruno clarified >> that this would still be inside a high-metric prefix reachability TLV. >> The only difference is that there is a flag/sub-TLV inside that triggers >> UPA behavior. How

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce / UPA IS-IS semantics

2022-11-09 Thread Aijun Wang
One more information: The explicit solution, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-10 does not require all the nodes be upgraded simultaneously. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Nov 9, 2022, at 12:06, Peter Psenak > Using a new Sub-TLV to

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce / UPA IS-IS semantics

2022-11-09 Thread Aijun Wang
he meaning of “LSInfinity”, no more explanations, no more confusion then. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Nov 9, 2022, at 12:06, Peter Psenak > wrote: > > Hi David, > >> On 09/11/2022 11:44, David Lamparter wrote: >> Hi Peter, hi all, >> to iterate on the co

Re: [Lsr] 【Object the update of LSInfinity usage in RFC8362 】Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-07.txt

2022-11-02 Thread Aijun Wang
So, the discussion will be back to the origin? -Original Message- From: lsr-boun...@ietf.org On Behalf Of Peter Psenak Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2022 4:20 PM To: Aijun Wang Cc: Acee Lindem (acee) ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] 【Object the update of LSInfinity usage in RFC8362 】Re

Re: [Lsr] 【Object the update of LSInfinity usage in RFC8362 】Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-07.txt

2022-10-28 Thread Aijun Wang
also several folks, include myself, aren’t convinced yet for such approaches. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Oct 28, 2022, at 22:34, Peter Psenak > wrote: > > Aijun, > > several folks, including myself, has explained to you previously that your > claims regarding

[Lsr] 【Object the update of LSInfinity usage in RFC8362 】Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-07.txt

2022-10-21 Thread Aijun Wang
Object! I have summarized the reason at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/iqcgBvMIPcVxWpfK-AW9MUhpKes/. Please give the reasonable responses before making any unsound attempts. Such updates, implementation and deployment will introduce chaos within the network. Aijun Wang China

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes-05.txt

2022-10-20 Thread Aijun Wang
One correction for the hyper link of the updated draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes-05 The number 5 is carried return in the second line in previous mail. -Original Message- From: lsr-boun...@ietf.org On Behalf Of Aijun Wang Sent: Friday

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes-05.txt

2022-10-20 Thread Aijun Wang
ger to get rough consensus for the forwarding of this updated draft. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -Original Message- From: lsr-boun...@ietf.org On Behalf Of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 11:08 AM To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Cc: lsr@ietf.org Subject: [Lsr]

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSInfinity

2022-10-16 Thread Aijun Wang
A use the same length of metric fields. I think we can find other solutions for the proposals that based on the "LSInfinity", if not, please state them on the list, let's discuss them and accomplish such aims. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -Original Message-

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSInfinity

2022-10-13 Thread Aijun Wang
One correction: “It should be expanded further” should be “it shouldn’t be expanded further” Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Oct 13, 2022, at 18:53, Aijun Wang wrote: > > Hi, Acee and Peter: > > I think you all misunderstood the intent of his scenario. > The correct und

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSInfinity

2022-10-13 Thread Aijun Wang
usage of LSInfinity defined in RFC2327. It should be expanded further. How to apply it in RFC8362 is another issue, as indicated my responses in another thread. In summary, again, we should constrain or depreciate the confusion usages of LSInfinity. Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Oct 13, 2

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSInfinity

2022-10-13 Thread Aijun Wang
e of the R-bit [RFC5340] as a solution to the problem addressed in the text." Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -Original Message- From: lsr-boun...@ietf.org On Behalf Of Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 10:07 PM To: Aijun Wang Cc: Peter Psenak (p

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSInfinity

2022-10-12 Thread Aijun Wang
eaningthe last resort of the route to the prefixes. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -Original Message- From: lsr-boun...@ietf.org On Behalf Of Huzhibo Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 2:26 PM To: Peter Psenak ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSInfinity Hi LSR: LS

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSInfinity

2022-10-12 Thread Aijun Wang
other attached area as one summary prefix? Aijun Wang China Telecom > On Oct 12, 2022, at 18:22, Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > >  > > On 10/12/22, 2:31 AM, "Lsr on behalf of Aijun Wang" behalf of wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn> wrote: > >Hi, Acee: > &g

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSInfinity

2022-10-12 Thread Aijun Wang
, LSInifinity is just the maximum value of the prefix metric. The above usage is same as the other value of the metric, then define them or not is trival-The operator can use any other large enough value to divert the traffic in your mentioned scenarios. Best Regards Aijun Wang

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSInfinity

2022-10-11 Thread Aijun Wang
. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -Original Message- From: lsr-boun...@ietf.org On Behalf Of Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 11:20 PM To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; Aijun Wang ; 'Ketan Talaulikar' Cc: lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSIn

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8362 and LSInfinity

2022-10-10 Thread Aijun Wang
it is difficult and complex for the operator to run the network based on such special treatment. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -Original Message- From: lsr-boun...@ietf.org On Behalf Of Peter Psenak Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 3:56 PM To: Aijun Wang ; 'Acee Lindem (acee)&

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv-01.txt

2022-10-08 Thread Aijun Wang
ted advertisements of the same TLV. Is there any other difficult points to be solved? Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom -Original Message- From: lsr-boun...@ietf.org On Behalf Of Christian Hopps Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 8:49 AM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Cc: Christian Hopps ; Tony

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