Re: Lute on Open Air Festival

2004-08-23 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 22 Aug 2004 um 16:28 hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben: > Perhaps not unrelatedly, I > get the impression that trumpet players, or violinsts, > or (especially) pianists are a little bit bemused as > to why anyone would want to be spending time playing > the _lute_. After a bit of lute duet

Re: Lute on Open Air Festival

2004-08-23 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 23 Aug 2004 um 18:37 hat Joachim Lüdtke geschrieben: > What did Basho write: > > Lonely lute outside. > Joe's playing a Dowland piece. > Fast: close the windows! Couldn't hardly stand those limericks anymore! :-) Finally: The lute reveals its secrets even to cornett players. Regards, St

Re: Lute on Open Air Festival 3

2004-08-26 Thread Stephan Olbertz
ways try a clerihew: > > Stephan Olbertz > Hat großen Schmerz. > Ihm gefällt leider nicht > Romans Limerick-Dicht. > > Best wishes, > > Stewart McCoy. > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To:

Re: Hard chords: was Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-30 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 30 Sep 2004 um 12:10 hat Ed Durbrow geschrieben: > >By the way, the left-hand fingerings in _Varietie_ do not involve > >fancy barrés with fingers other than the 1st finger. For example, > >_Varietie_ gives > > > >__1b_2d___ > >__3c_4f___ > >__2c_3f___ > >___

Re: Baroque recommendations

2004-10-23 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear Thomas, of course Roman was the first to answer :-) I already have the Rosani and enjoy myself with Partita II right now. Nice and easy galant music! Best wishes, Stephan Am 23 Oct 2004 um 0:29 hat Thomas Schall geschrieben: > Take a look at the Sautschek site. > The Rosani book is also

Re: Spelk planes

2004-11-17 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Maybe a flat-back mandolin. You find them a lot on German ebay... Stephan Am 16 Nov 2004 um 23:35 hat Stewart McCoy geschrieben: > Dear Garry, > > Did you come to any conclusions about the possibility of luthiers > using Spelk-like planes to run off lute ribs quickly and cheaply? The > thread

Re: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-21 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear all, this thread led me to re-read Segerman's article on his website at http://www.nrinstruments.demon.co.uk/LuSt.html Apparently he is postulating low tension stringing and close to the bridge playing for years. However, lowering the pitch with nylon stringing to my ears and fingers sti

Re: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-22 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear all, it has been argumented that playing close to the bridge produces better (brighter) basses. However, it occurs to me that the extreme thumb-out positions we see on old paintings result in darker basses and brighten the sound of the upper register. If the aim had been to brighten the b

RE: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-24 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear Francesco (and all), just a few further thoughts, sorry for answering lately. Francesco wrote: > Perhaps they decided to change to thumb out for other technical > reasons. I guess it's simpler to play thumb out with many courses, due > to the much wider distance the thumb must reach, and

Re: lute tablatures online

2004-12-05 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 5 Dec 2004 um 6:27 hat Daniel Shoskes geschrieben: > No, you are right. That is a site I only visit on my Mac using Safari > with pop up blocking on and Pith Helmet revved up. It is clearly > malicious to PC's To IE's, I would say. No problems with Opera... Stephn > > >Dear lute netters, >

Re: oldest viola picture

2004-12-08 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Normally people like you give away free bibles. How about a free viol? :-) Stephan Am 7 Dec 2004 um 22:16 hat Roger E. Blumberg geschrieben: > > - Original Message - > From: "rosinfiorini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 5:20 PM > Subje

Re: Beards

2004-12-12 Thread Stephan Olbertz
If shaving only every two weeks counts for a beard, I have one too... Regards, Stephan Am 12 Dec 2004 um 23:23 hat Stewart McCoy geschrieben: > Dear Roman, > > I am aghast at the thought of a beard tax, which you mention in > connection with Peter the Great. A great many lutenists today have

Re: El Maestro (Was: Vihuela,....)

2004-12-15 Thread Stephan Olbertz
> It is so funny, but to me reading Luys Milan tabulature is nearly > impossible! When I see number tabulature, I can read it only in the > Italian way... ;-) Dear Arto, same with me. I'm always confused when some students come up with guitar/folk/Valencian tablature. :-) Regards, Stephan

Re: Instrument Sounding

2004-12-15 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Additionally, it helps to keep the last finger joint flexible, at least with low and normal tension strings. According to Pujoll, who played without nails too, the index should stand upright on the string. For comparison: Segovia's technique (nails) would be to play over the left side of the fi

Re: Redux Strings

2004-12-16 Thread Stephan Olbertz
> > Tinctoris' "De Inventione et Usu Musicae" of 1487, that refers to > > older and current wire strung instruments is an obvious forgery. Says who? Stephan To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: El Maestro (Was: Vihuela,....)

2004-12-16 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 16 Dec 2004 um 11:10 hat Alain Veylit geschrieben: > By the > way, how many lutenists does it take to change a light bulb? > Two! One who changes the bulb and one who explains it to the charango player. Stephan To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.e

Re: Instrument Sounding

2004-12-17 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear Carl, this is quite interesting (although nails do not prevent such a technique, it all depends on filing and various angles). Did he teach the end joint to be flexible or not? And how do our best thumb-outsiders on the baroque lute (North and others) deal with this detail

Food for thought

2004-12-17 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Today I discovered another very detailed article by Segerman on lute sizes, string tension and what it's all about, it's at: http://www.nrinstruments.demon.co.uk/prepub.html Nothing for a quick read-through, though... Regards, Stephan To get on or off this list see list information at http:/

Re: Instrument Sounding

2004-12-18 Thread Stephan Olbertz
ight hand in action on the > LSA "Downloads" page (unfortunately no sound included). > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/download/index.html#video > > Daniel Heiman > > On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:36:22 +0100 "Stephan Olbertz" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Beards - conclusion

2004-12-19 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 19 Dec 2004 um 17:26 hat Mathias Rösel geschrieben: > well, there certainly is a pun in the naming. I had to look up German > spitzbart, which is that very beard I was referring to, in my > dictionary and there it was: goatee. I suppose there wasn't much > difference in pronounciation of goate

Re: Instrument Sounding

2004-12-19 Thread Stephan Olbertz
there. > > Best wishes, > > Denys > > No beard, incidentally! :-) > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephan Olbertz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 19,

Re: Instrument Sounding

2004-12-19 Thread Stephan Olbertz
t it flex. > > Of course my meager technique is nothing remarkable. > > Best, > > Eric > > Stephan Olbertz wrote: > > >Oh yes, thank you! Apparently he leaves the end joint fixed, > >that is to say: it's not bent passively in the opposite > >

lutistic mathematics

2004-12-20 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear all, I'm in the process of calculating different options for a set of gut strings. It seems clear that people favour quite a diversity of set-ups like equal tension, slowly decreasing tension, general high or low tension, higher tension for long stringlength etc. What I cannot understand

Re: Instrument Sounding

2004-12-20 Thread Stephan Olbertz
t; schrieb am 20.12.04 16:23:07: Stephan, et al., The end joint is usually bent slightly inward - into the stroke - which gives strength, but at the same time makes it easier to do a good free stroke. -Carl --On Friday, December 17, 2004 6:36 PM +0100 Stephan Olbertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Instrument Sounding

2004-12-21 Thread Stephan Olbertz
f the finger and hand typically should bring it back very > quickly to the original starting position. An excess of tension > sometimes interferes with this rapid relaxation/return, so that's also > something to watch for.

Re: lutistic mathematics

2004-12-21 Thread Stephan Olbertz
reasonably close results ):-) > > Hope this helps, > Alexander > www.vihuelademano.com > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephan Olbertz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:17 PM > Subject: lu

Re: International Brotherhood week - again?

2004-12-25 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 25 Dec 2004 um 11:46 hat Ed Durbrow geschrieben: > >is there a definitive key or > >legend to the various lute manuscripts? In other words, is there one > >document which decrypts them ? ( e.g. Board MS ). > > Maybe H. Brown Instrumental Music before 1600 could help? Brown is about printed

Re: horizontal spacing in tablature

2005-02-08 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I'd say: space slightly! Regards, Stephan Am Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:54:59 - schrieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I may have posed this question to the list in the past, but perhaps it is > time to > do so again. > > My admitedly limited survey of historical printed sources shows a diferent > approach

temperaments

2005-02-13 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear all, I have some questions concerning temperaments: 1. Do most meantone players set up their lute in 1/6 syntonic or pythagorean comma (Silbermann)? (For clarification: The latter is the same as 2/11 syntonic comma but sadly often refered to as "1/6 comma meantone", which implies a fracti

Re: temperaments

2005-02-14 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear David, thanks for your answer. You wrote: > Jägermeister III. I have to play irregular temperaments occasionlly. > Werckmeister-variants, 'Bach' temperament (...?); things harpsichordist > invent. I can do this a little when playing continuo, because I can choose > which notes to use and whi

Re: left hand thumb to stop bass notes

2005-02-15 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:57:11 -0500 schrieb Vance Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I also wonder why FDM didn't just play it the >> "logical way" (to me anyway): >> >>1 1.2 0 >> David: Because it clouds the voice leading. Understanding that it is > probable that Milano use Octive

Re: Antwort: Re: left hand thumb to stop bass notes

2005-02-15 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear Thomas, you wrote: > Probably larger instruments did > exist, yes, but it's not wrong to asume he would have played the most common > instrument of his time, too. While it is often said that A-Lutes were common in 16th century Germany (wherever that was) it's news to me that this should ha

Re: Lute Editing Programmes

2005-02-15 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Doc, David, what keeps me from actually buying Finale is the fact that they want to get paid every year for an update with features noone needs ("Create scale execises with one click!" etc.). Concerning the difficulty of the programme: I once heard that the reason for this was that Finale came

Re: temperaments

2005-02-16 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:53:39 +0100 schrieb LGS-Europe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> 1. Do most meantone players set up their lute in 1/6 syntonic or >> pythagorean comma (Silbermann)? (For clarification: The latter is the same >> as 2/11 syntonic comma but sadly often refered to as "1/6 comma meantone

Re: A-Lutes in renaissance italy

2005-02-18 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Hello Thomas, you wrote: > Dear Stephan, >the term A-Lute seems to be misleading this time because it suggests a > absolute pitch. Right. > Actually my position is that the common lutes were smaller in the first > half of the 16th century than they were at the end of the 16th century. This ma

maiden flight

2005-02-20 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear all, I just returned from my first real continuo gig ever (in an all Monteverdi programme and still on my 8-course) and I must say, I began to feel what people like about playing continuo. It was such a great joy and it gave me the creeps for the first time in a concert I was involved myse

Re: Sautscheck portraits?

2005-02-21 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:28:29 -0500 schrieb Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Roman, you and I have not always seen eye to eye, but yesterday I viewed >> your website devoted to your own paintings. What a talented artist you are >> (of, course, you don't need me to tell you that)! I second th

Re: The 'perfect' instrument?

2005-02-27 Thread Stephan Olbertz
--- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --- Von: "Stephan Olbertz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: "Dr. Marion Ceruti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Betreff: Re: The 'perfect' instrument? Datum: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 00:28:45 +0100 Dear Marion, have a look at http://www.herm

OT Bach's tuning

2005-02-27 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear all, anyone s*bscribing Early Music will already know about a fascinating "new" solution of an old problem: Bach's well-tempered tuning is supposed to have been revealed from hints in his own hand. See the author's webpage at http://www.larips.com/ I had no problems downloading from there

Re: Period typesetting

2005-03-02 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:47:03 - schrieb Denys Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It would be great to find a box full of > Petrucci's type in a forgotten store room of a museum, It's right beside the box with a certain lost Petrucci print... Stephan -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mai

Re: Continuo

2005-03-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Wed, 9 Mar 2005 00:35:32 +0100 schrieb Thomas Schall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We know that Weiss played continuo. The tuning is not certain. > Baron's remark on page 131 of his "Untersuchung" suggests that the theoboes > of his time would have been tuned similar to a baroque lute to avoid > "rel

Re: Continuo

2005-03-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
would be interesting to know who infact does set up his baroque lute unequally, and how. I recently asked something like this and got just one answer in favor of ET. Please feel free to educate me... Best regards, Stephan > > Best wishes, > > Martin > > Stephan Olbertz wr

Re: Continuo

2005-03-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:07:59 + (GMT) schrieb Benjamin Narvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It is absolutely clear that the German therobo was in d-minor tuning. > Baron > makes this clear in the Untersuchung. He says it is tuned in the "neue > Lauten- > Stimmung", i.e., the accords nouveaux:

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-10 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:04:14 +0100 schrieb Stephan Olbertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I always thought that the problems are: > 1. to get the minor third between the first and second/fourth and fifth > courses into the tuning system and > 2. doubling A-d-f in the high octave

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-10 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:35:19 -0500 schrieb Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> I always thought that the problems are: >>> 1. to get the minor third between the first and second/fourth and fifth >>> courses into the tuning system and >>> 2. doubling A-d-f in the high octave means doubling th

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-11 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:05:00 -0500 schrieb Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The meantone was likelier in a church setting, because the organ might > have > stilll be tuned that way. The opera had no organ, therefore no meantone. > By > 1700 opera would modulate sufficiently to forget ab

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-11 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear all, this came back with a strange formating, so I send it again. My apologies! Am Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:05:00 -0500 schrieb Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The meantone was likelier in a church setting, because the organ might > have > stilll be tuned that way. The opera had no organ

Re: belly braces

2005-03-29 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Am 28 Mar 2005 um 19:50 hat Michael Thames geschrieben: >DAS used Lundberg as his main source of info. Lundberg stops short > of the goal, concentrating only on Edlinger, and his conversion lutes, > dismissing Heir Hoffman as building inferior lutes, the whole time > ignoring, the late

Re: Montagna's lutes

2005-03-30 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Am 29 Mar 2005 um 22:53 hat Sean Smith geschrieben: > > Maybe the higher math of just where to place those frets (and how many) > never seemed to impress them. Number of strings and fingers are always > right but frets... dang! > Interesting though that the right lute has a slanted first fret

Re: Montagna's lutes

2005-03-30 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Am 30 Mar 2005 um 8:24 hat Roman Turovsky geschrieben: > Stephan, > you are reading too much into it. The lute stage-right has frets fanning > out, but I'm afraid it wouldn't be temperamentally justified. > I wouldn't trust Montagna's "lute design" too much, as he was too fine a > designer, and kn

Re: "Bach 1722 Temperament" (EM 02-05) Lehman

2005-04-11 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Dear Jason, yes, I have read the article and have since been waiting for the second part. No, it doesn't (and cannot) work with lutes in whatever tuning, as they are very much limited to regular tunings like equal temperament and the various meantones. However, as the naturals f, c, g, d, a,

Re: Judentanz Neusidler etc.

2005-06-08 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Am 6 Jun 2005 um 23:33 hat G.R. Crona geschrieben: > > Otherwise, I think it would be very interesting, to make an inventory of the > pieces in the collected lute canon there are for 5 course lute (and also 5 > course vihuela for that matter - i.e Mudarra?), as they imply works that > are from

[LUTE] Re: something totally different:)

2007-03-12 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Funny, just yesterday I had a tapping-link exchange with a friend... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb9cidk0Bfs Bach the other way (maybe you know him already): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm8nbGzN3us With built-in percussion: http://chickencrap.com/v.php?v` Mixed with some evil rasguados: http

[LUTE] Re: Morleys Canzonets with lute 1597

2007-04-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 7 Apr 2007 um 18:13 hat Daniel F Heiman geschrieben: > Should the LSA digitize all the films in the Library? Nice idea. > Requires quite a bit of (volunteer?) time by someone. Then what? > Sell them on CD or by file download? May run into objections from > the libraries that own the origin

[LUTE] Re: de visee & kellner

2007-04-23 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Apart from the musical differences Bonavita's playing position certainly looks healthier. Nomen est omen :-) Regards, Stephan Am 21 Apr 2007 um 15:37 hat Mathias Rösel geschrieben: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > I thought both Lislevand's and Bonavitas' > > performances were nice. > >

[LUTE] Re: Holborne, was Theorbo tutor

2007-05-20 Thread Stephan Olbertz
By looking through the Utorpheus pages I noticed that they have a brand new Holborne edition available. Can anyone imagine why this would be necessary in our small lute world? We have an excellent one by Rainer aus dem Spring, published by the English lute society! Regards, Stephan Am 20 Ma

[LUTE] Re: Holborne, was Theorbo tutor

2007-05-21 Thread Stephan Olbertz
s a > transcription into staff notation. Rainer's edition gives tablature > only, so the new edition might appeal to people who can't read > tablature. > > Best wishes, > > Stewart McCoy. > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephan Olbertz&q

[LUTE] Re: the bandore

2007-05-30 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I read somewhere that it was still used as a continuo instrument in 17th cent. Germany. Regards, Stephan Am 30 May 2007 um 14:48 hat Cotton, Christopher geschrieben: > Dear Lutenists, > > I am a high school English teacher in Shaker Heights, Ohio, and I am > doing research on the bandore. I

[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion

2007-06-17 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 16 Jun 2007 um 8:31 hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben: > I just met the > other day with a highly competent classical guitarist > who could not remember for the life of her how to > finger a B minor chord. Excuse me, but isn't that a contradiction in itself? How can someone be highly compet

[LUTE] Re: Holborne, was Theorbo tutor

2007-07-05 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 4 Jul 2007 um 10:55 hat Arthur Ness geschrieben: > What is needed is a central clearing house (like > Magnatunes for CDs) for these > specialized lute publications being issued by the > societies, and persons like Dick Hoban, Albert Reyerman, > Andi Schlegel, > Richard Darsie et al. Hi Arth

[LUTE] Suzanna Galliard

2007-07-17 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear all, there is a nice version of Dowland's Suzanna/Lisle's/Bucton's Galliard in an anthology of 5- part instrumental dances by Füllsack und Hildebrandt, Hamburg 1607. See: http://www.icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Fullsack.php Ward (A Dowland miscellany) doesn't mention the setting, and

[LUTE] Re: Suzanna Galliard

2007-07-18 Thread Stephan Olbertz
spectable lute quartet arrangement of > the piece without too much difficulty. > > Best wishes, > > Stewart McCoy. > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephan Olbertz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:37 PM

[LUTE] Re: Capirola question

2007-07-23 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 23 Jul 2007 um 10:39 hat David Rastall geschrieben: > And now after 35 years of lute revival, we seem to be exploring thumb- > out again. Pretty soon we'll be ready to agree that Julian Bream > was right after all. ;-) That would give us some more doubling or converting guitarists, whic

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Raillich lute pics

2007-07-23 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I just found some pictures of an original (but converted) Raillich lute with the gut strings still attached. I wonder if our string experts had the oportunity to examin them... http://www.zupfinstrumente-emmerich.de/English/index.htm Regards, Stephan -- To get on or off this list see list in

[LUTE] Re: Original gut strings

2007-07-24 Thread Stephan Olbertz
e, > Mimmo > > > > > _ > > Aquila Corde Armoniche S.a.s > www.aquilacorde.com > Phone +39 0444 986972 > Fax +39 0444 989399 > > > - Original Message - > From: Stephan Olbertz > To: lute@c

[LUTE] Re: Capirola question

2007-07-25 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 24 Jul 2007 um 2:50 hat gary digman geschrieben: > Does somebody have a problem with playing both or even more instruments, not > necessarily at the same time, "not that there's anything wrong with that"? As far as I can see, lute and guitar are as seperated in the conservatories and so on as

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Raillich lute pics

2007-07-25 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Wolfgang Emmerich, that is... Am 25 Jul 2007 um 9:27 hat Stephan Olbertz geschrieben: > > I noticed that the link was not complete: try > http://www.zupfinstrumente-emmerich.de/English/index.htm?News.htm > and scroll down. It's in the news section of Lothar Emmerichs web pa

[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette goes baroque

2007-07-30 Thread Stephan Olbertz
s are his own arrangements. > > BTW, Paul's CD is also available on iTunes: > <http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum? > id=256989709&s=143441> > > DS > > On Jul 29, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Stephan Olbertz wrote: > > > Interesting tha

[LUTE] Re: advice ems or blue moon at Hobgoblin please

2007-08-15 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Andy, don't buy the cheap stuff from Pakistan (Hobgoblin). Really! I don't know if the no-name lutes sold by EMS are any better, but I would advise to save your money and get a student lute by (e.g.) Ed Greenhood in the US, Renzo Salvador in Belgium, Kai Schupp or Renatus lechner in Germany,

[LUTE] Re: Baroque lute newbie (waaahooo!)

2007-08-23 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I'm not used to this terminology, but shouldn't it be f4? F over middle c, that is (sometimes written an octave higher like in guitar notation). Regards, Stephan Am 22 Aug 2007 um 21:59 hat Jim Abraham geschrieben: > Hi All, > > Received my new lute Tuesday from Luciano Faria. It's verrry ni

[LUTE] Re: capo on third fret guitar

2007-11-14 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Playing with a capo does in my ears change the colour to a more lute like one (less fundamentals in the sound), however I would use the second fret, so that the markers are still in place ;-) Regards, Stephan Am 13 Nov 2007 um 19:38 hat Daniel Winheld geschrieben: > And why wouldn't it work

[LUTE] Re: Tuning blues

2007-11-19 Thread Stephan Olbertz
In case someone doesn't know it, there's an enjoyable paper by Ross Duffin online: "Why I hate Valotti (or is it Young?)": http://music.cwru.edu/duffin/ Regards, Stephan Am 19 Nov 2007 um 18:03 hat Stewart McCoy geschrieben: > Dear David, > > The temperament known as Valotti was presumably

[LUTE] Re: Swanneck

2007-12-03 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 2 Dec 2007 um 16:07 hat Edward Martin geschrieben: > that is, it does > take a different approach with the right hand in learning how to use gut > appropriately & beautifully. And that would be? Thanks and regards, Stephan > > Down to only 4 instruments? Too bad > > ed > > > >

[LUTE] Re: Javob Hes

2008-07-19 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Renatus Lechner has pictures of his reproduction on his web site: http://www.renatus-lechner.de/Bilder/instrumente/hes.htm A student of mine owns this modell, it's quite small (56 cm stringlenght I think), but it has well projecting, sweet tone. Regards, Stephan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

[LUTE] Re: breathing

2008-09-30 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Recently I bought a CD with symphonies and concertos by C. Ph. E. Bach by Akademie für Alte Musik Berlin. Beside that it is a superb recording, you can clearly hear the Konzertmeister (no conductor) breath sharpely e.g. in the beginning of the prestissimo. As a musician, you immediately sit upri

[LUTE] Re: from the court of Henry the VIII

2008-10-15 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Yes, to my ears the first part is a PA (in triple time), the second is a R. People tend to assert things or repeat plain hearsay. Like the Folia being somekind of R or PA Regards, Stephan Am 14 Oct 2008 um 22:55 hat David Tayler geschrieben: > I see in several online sources, including t

[LUTE] Re: from the court of Henry the VIII

2008-10-15 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Come to think over it, the lute duet versions do start with the III, though not in all variations. And in the Folia one can indeed find the Romanesca, if you skip the first four measures of the phrases... Stephan Am 15 Oct 2008 um 9:44 hat Stephan Olbertz geschrieben: >

[LUTE] Re: Lute Consort

2008-11-16 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear Susanne, if you can organize a bass lute in D, I have some nice arrangements together with two lutes in G. Remember? :-) I think Stewart McCoy, who is on this list, has arranged some English duets with an added bass lute. This is one possibility for the repertoire of "the three lutes" at

[LUTE] Re: Lute Consort

2008-11-17 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Oh, I remember that I have the Thysius lute book quartets, published by Stefan Lundgren. Tunings: a (superius), g, e, d (bass). I can lend it to you, it only gets dusty here... Viele Gruesse, Stephan Am 16 Nov 2008 um 0:22 hat Susanne Herre geschrieben: >Dear Luten

[LUTE] Re: The Online Lute Player

2008-11-19 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear Gary, this is true if people manage to contribute something. If their only aim is writing arrogant and even insulting mails, no one gains. Regards, Stephan Am 18 Nov 2008 um 2:56 hat gary digman geschrieben: > I have to say, I'm not sure I agree with this policy of banning people

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 9 Dec 2008 um 14:47 hat David Tayler geschrieben: > 7. All editions should be free. We need more lute players. Thanks to > all who make the music available. Yes, and all lessons likewise. And all the concerts, we need more listeners, you see. After all the applause is the bread of the arti

[LUTE] Re: Fourier measurements of lute sound.

2009-01-06 Thread Stephan Olbertz
> > 3. The harmonics' pitches are not consistent with each other, > > especially during the initial 0.3 second. For example, > > the fundamental can be at -4 cents, and the first harmonic > > (an octave above the fundamental) can be at +4 cents. > > > > These observations provide an ample hypo

[LUTE] Re: Re : Re: restring?

2009-01-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I always ask how they want the guitar to hold if they are left handed, and 99% want to do it the left way. Recently I had a right handed young boy who insisted to play the other way round. When I asked about it, he told me 'that's the way I use to play my tennis racket'. Well, he qui

[LUTE] Re: Re : Re: restring?

2009-01-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
This would cause some problems in the orchestra :-) Stephan Am 9 Jan 2009 um 19:51 hat Edward Martin geschrieben: > Has anyone seen many lefty violinists? > > ed > > > At 04:25 PM 1/9/2009 -0500, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: > >Greetings All: > > > >I'm another stereotypical lefty...except when it'

[LUTE] Re: Re : Re: restring?

2009-01-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I once had a student whom I adviced to switch after an injury, but it never felt 'right' for him and he stopped plying some time after... Stephan Am 9 Jan 2009 um 21:19 hat Roman Turovsky geschrieben: > Reinhard Goebel taught himself to play lefthanded, after an injury. It is > very rare thoug

[LUTE] Re: restring? LH OT

2009-01-10 Thread Stephan Olbertz
My 4 and 5 year old pupils have no problems changing hands for newly learned skills on drums and xylophones. But most have a favored hand they start with... Stephan Am 10 Jan 2009 um 17:03 hat Christopher Stetson geschrieben: > Oh, well... > > BTW, I'm an Early Childhood Educator. While I'v

[LUTE] Re: restring?

2009-01-10 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I know that I am playing better when I relax or 'free' my left hand while playing. More music, less of just playing the right note at the right time. Stephan Am 9 Jan 2009 um 23:32 hat David van Ooijen geschrieben: > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:11 PM, David Rastall wrote: > > On Jan 9, 2009, a

[LUTE] Re: New Grove

2009-01-19 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Wow, I think I sign up! Thanks, Stephan Am 19 Jan 2009 um 11:42 hat David van Ooijen geschrieben: > The collection of tablatures formerly housed in the Gemeentemuseum in > The Hague has been moved to the Nederlands Muziek Instituut > (http://www.nederlandsmuziekinstituut.nl/), which is in the s

[LUTE] Aquila video

2009-04-25 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I don't know whether this has been posted before, but: Aquila`s web page shows a link to a nice youtube video concerning their string production. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Cwe_pz0Uo Regards, Stephan -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ To g

[LUTE] Re: Milan's tablature?

2009-05-08 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I seem to recall some handwritten pieces on the blank staves of Denss' Florilegium, in the copy which was used for the Tree Edition selection. There must be some more fragments, someone suggested the name Valencinian tablature because there seem to be connections to Valencia other than through L

[LUTE] Re: Belated Thanks

2005-08-16 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Am 13 Aug 2005 um 13:38 hat Stewart McCoy geschrieben: snip > Studying the works of Ortiz, Simpson, Dalla Casa, et al, is a > valuable exercise. They present lots of ideas, lots of ways to help > free you from the written page. For the lute, you could do worse > than study the repeated sections of

[LUTE] Re: AW: stefan craus lutebook

2005-08-24 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Am 22 Aug 2005 um 16:42 hat Wolfgang Wiehe geschrieben: > me again, > I prepared a rough-list for myself and counted about 53 different pieces > (dance pairs counted as one piece) and two absolutely unreadable pieces, > cause the scribe scratched them out. some titles are readable, some not > and

[LUTE] Re: AW: stefan craus lutebook

2005-08-24 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Am 22 Aug 2005 um 16:25 hat Wolfgang Wiehe geschrieben: > the first piece, a "bassa tantz" > is attributed to francesco spinacino (I didn't found it in spinacino > 1507 till now) It's no. 16 in the first volume. Stephan To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmou

[LUTE] Re: Help Martino Trio

2005-09-10 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
May I ask which facsimile you use? I didn't know that there is one, so I ordered a electronic copy from Augsburg... Stephan Am 10 Sep 2005 um 19:09 hat Jose Luis Rojo geschrieben: > Resolved! > > My problems were due to the facsimile order of the pages. > > The part of Violone corresponded

[LUTE] Re: Translation of preface to El Maestro.

2005-09-20 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Try this one: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0253210186/104-2324462- 6299106?v=glance It's Luise gassers book "Luis Milan on sixteenth-century performance practice", Indiana University Press. Regards, Stephan Am 19 Sep 2005 um 10:28 hat Herbert Ward geschrieben: > > Hello. An

[LUTE] Re: frustrated with tuning, strings, lutes, the world etc...

2005-09-30 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Dear Christopher, do you know Seegermanns papers on the matter? They're online on his "northern renaissance instruments" page. Regards, Stephan Am 29 Sep 2005 um 19:44 hat Christopher Schaub geschrieben: > I agree and do play this way. But putting the pinky on or behind the bridge is > a bit

[LUTE] Re: Jon Banks and lute ensembles

2005-10-09 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Dear Ed, I did a search on Sirinu, but the CD in question doesn't seem to be available over the usual channels. It's "EML 053" and the title is "Gentile Spiritus". The labels name is "Ensemble Music Label" and is part of the company of one Mike Skeet. He doesn't seem to be interested in selli

[LUTE] La vache luthiere

2005-10-14 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
http://www.brindair.net/vache-luthiere/ Even if you don't speak french there are some nice irish pieces at the end aranged by Pascale Boquet and good staff notation exercises (trecento tunes, pull out your plectrum). I just wonder what the thing with the cows is... Have fun, Stephan To ge

[LUTE] Re: La vache luthiere

2005-10-17 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
Am 17 Oct 2005 um 10:47 hat Arto Wikla geschrieben: > The magazine seems to be absolutely crazy! :-)) > It is a pity that my French is nearly null... > The modern (really very modern ;-) lute composition at the end seems to > be fantastic! "Veau-K-Lyse XII". And it seems to have been commissione

[LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Transcriptions of Bach (Not Lute Suites!)

2005-10-18 Thread Stephan . Olbertz
What was in your coffe this morning? Stephan Am 18 Oct 2005 um 10:37 hat jim abraham geschrieben: > Yeah, ok, I'll tell Nigel and Hoppy they shouldn't have bothered. I'll also > tell Johann Sebastian that he shouldn't have made a version of the 5th cello > suite for lute himself, and also that i

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