Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-08 Thread Charles Albrecht
At 8:28 PM -0500 1/8/2003, Erik Price wrote: >On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:38 AM, Ken Williams wrote: > >>The Allegory of the Cave springs to mind. =) > >Is that an Empire Strikes Back reference? > >"Luke, the cave... remember your experience at the cave..." -- Yoda Youngsters these days,

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-08 Thread Erik Price
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:38 AM, Ken Williams wrote: The funny thing is that I never did find a value (though I played with the plist values) that looked right, so I just learned to live with it, and now it is right, but looks WEIRD! The Allegory of the Cave springs to mind. =)

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-08 Thread Charles Albrecht
On 9:38 AM -0600 on 1/8/2003, Ken Williams wrote: >Not much good anymore. I'm now just another schmoe trying to figure out how I can >use iSync to save the world, and whether I want to switch from Omniweb to Safari. Some nice features, but with a couple dozen shortcuts leveraging %@ in OmniWeb,

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-08 Thread Ken Williams
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:33 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: I use 120 x 40 too, and had the same problem, also with Monaco 9. Great minds think alike. :-) Heh. The funny thing is that I never did find a value (though I played with the plist values) that looked right, so I just learned t

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Rich & Michaela
"William H. Magill" wrote: > This is the real issue. > > I've been through many Unix upgrades on many different platforms and > they all have exactly the same characteristic. > > There is hardware which runs releases which run fine on the hardware > which existed when they were released. But tha

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 1:49 PM -0800 1/7/03, Daniel Stillwaggon wrote: Same here, had to recompile lynx (btw, the fink lynx didn't work for me, I had to download source) and MySQL, but everything else went smoothly. Right, I forgot that one. MySQL server ran fine, but the client had to be recompiled. In fairnes

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Chris Nandor
In article , [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Heather Madrone) wrote: > OTOH, I stuck Perl 5.8 in /usr/local, and I've had no difficulty > with it whatsoever. Yay! -- Chris Nandor [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://pudge.net/ Open Source Development Ne

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Chris Nandor
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams) wrote: > I suppose it depends on the size of your windows - mine are usually 120 > x 40. The annoying extra pixel is probably a rounding error spread > over the width of the window, so the exact number will probably vary. I use

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Rich & Michaela
Thanks to everyone for the responses. Again I apologize for re-opening this OT thread. I'm very intrigued now, as several of the respondees are in very similar circumstances. BTW I have a(n) ibook600 with lot's of UNIX stuff built/configured/tweaked. I use my machine in a big way at work, so I can'

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Daniel Stillwaggon
Thought that I'd go ahead and provide another data point... On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 05:50 US/Pacific, Kee Hinckley wrote: Well those of us who had a completely painless upgrade obviously don't have anything to say. My upgrade to Jaguar was virtually trouble free. I did have to recompil

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread William H. Magill
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 02:37 PM, Jeffrey Melloy wrote: You really shouldn't seeing any stuff like that that's entirely random. My bet would be bad RAM. I'd say dig out your hardware checkup disk and run it. If it's not ram, it's almost definitely a hardware problem, since that's ab

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread William H. Magill
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 12:25 PM, Chris Devers wrote: And no, I haven't messed with Perl or Apache or anything like that. I'm seeing this behavior on two G3s, of which one behaved this way almost from the start with Jaguar. This is the real issue. I've been through many Unix upgrades o

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Jeffrey Melloy
You really shouldn't seeing any stuff like that that's entirely random. My bet would be bad RAM. I'd say dig out your hardware checkup disk and run it. If it's not ram, it's almost definitely a hardware problem, since that's about the only stuff that runs in kernel space. On Tuesday, January

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Heather Madrone
I thought the Monaco 9 font was incredibly hard to read in the Terminal app, so I changed it to Courier New and upped the size to 12. At 12:25 PM -0500 1/7/03, Chris Devers wrote: >That is, it's much nicer, everything seems to run faster and there's a lot >more polish to many of the system applica

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Chris Devers
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Rich & Michaela wrote: > I've avoided the upgrade to Jaguar for a number of reasons. Just to be contrary -- as everyone else seems to be saying that Jaguar has been great for them -- I'll see Ken a "two steps forward and one step back" and raise you an "the candle that burns t

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Puneet Kishor
fwiw, I paid, installed, and have not had any problems whatsoever. If anything, previous problems created by me by upgrading Perl and Apache all vanished because they got set back to the vendor provided versions. I have now installed Jaguar on a PB400, iMac350, and iBook600 (all G3 machines) a

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 11:05 PM -0600 1/6/03, Rich & Michaela wrote: I've avoided the upgrade to Jaguar for a number of reasons. - Annoyed over being charged for what still seems like a maintenance release to me. Apple's mistake there was in the numbering, not the charging. It's definitely as much an upgrade as

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Ken Williams
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:57 AM, Erik Price wrote: I'm not trying to invalidate the claims of the afflicted, I merely want to mention that there's probably at least as many people who aren't having problems (and for whom Jaguar offers worthwhile niceties that aren't available in 10.1

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Pete Prodoehl
The Jaguar upgrade went fairly smooth for me. I didn't have to do too much tweaking and re-customization. I mainly moved to Jaguar for a speed increase, and to fix various bugs, especially regarding Windows-related things at the office. My PowerBook remains at 10.1.5 though, since Jaguar won't

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-07 Thread Erik Price
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 12:05 AM, Rich & Michaela wrote: Sorry for the rant. I don't mean to open up these old threads (wounds), but I still don't see Jaguar's silver lining. So for now, I'm staying put at 10.1.5 and hoping that by the time I'm able to buy a new machine (~12 months),

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-06 Thread Rich & Michaela
I've avoided the upgrade to Jaguar for a number of reasons. - Annoyed over being charged for what still seems like a maintenance release to me. - Listening to all of the pain you folks and others have gone through getting things to work. I'd really like to get there, but I have dozens (hundreds

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-06 Thread Ken Williams
On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 03:48 PM, John Siracusa wrote: On 1/6/03 4:40 PM, John Siracusa wrote: On 1/6/03 4:15 PM, Ken Williams wrote: What finally worked was to add the following to any of my .term files, and to ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Terminal.plist : FontWidthSpacing

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-06 Thread John Siracusa
On 1/6/03 4:40 PM, John Siracusa wrote: > On 1/6/03 4:15 PM, Ken Williams wrote: >> What finally worked was to add the following to any of my .term files, >> and to ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Terminal.plist : >> >>FontWidthSpacing >>1.002 > > Hm, doesn't work for me. Also, m

Re: Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-06 Thread John Siracusa
On 1/6/03 4:15 PM, Ken Williams wrote: > What finally worked was to add the following to any of my .term files, > and to ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Terminal.plist : > >FontWidthSpacing >1.002 Hm, doesn't work for me. Also, my plist files have the value in tags, not . I tri

Fixing font spacing in Terminal.app

2003-01-06 Thread Ken Williams
Hi, I upgraded to Jaguar this weekend and was annoyed to find that Terminal.app had screwed up the horizontal font spacing in my setup. I'm no font layout snob, but for some reason this was really annoying - using Monaco 9, there was a column of pixels missing between columns 1 and 2 of text,