Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken

2012-05-25 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Juergen, Le 2012-05-25 09:14, Juergen Harms a écrit : Did you file a bug? - I think you should, because - the problem is reproducable on several installations (what do they have in common?) - Mageia should be installable by a newby, without the need to fiddle with the NO ACPI option - it is

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken

2012-05-25 Thread Marc Paré
. i used rufus in windows to burn the .iso into the usb, now i dont know if this is specifically caused by rufus or if this is caused by other thing, and here would be better that others could test and reproduce this. Regarding No ACPI i can not confirm what Marc Paré said, and again, the install

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken

2012-05-24 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Simple Le 2012-05-23 17:03, Simple . a écrit : Hi, I have burned the DVD 64bits iso into a USB pen disk and during the install i get this first problem: Instalation failed, some files are missing: /tmp/image/media/core/telepathy-kde-common-internals-translations-0.3.0-1-mga2.noarch.rpm.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken

2012-05-24 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Simple Le 2012-05-24 13:47, Simple . a écrit : 2012/5/24 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com: Hi Simple Le 2012-05-23 17:03, Simple . a écrit : Hi, I have burned the DVD 64bits iso into a USB pen disk and during the install i get this first problem: Instalation failed, some files are missing:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 DVD 64bits install is broken

2012-05-24 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2012-05-24 20:16, Simple . a écrit : I am writing from a DVD install downloaded from Mageia and burned onto a DVD. I also did a SUM check and all was fine. I tried to install 3-4 times and I got the same messages as you. I then realized that, depending on some boards you may need to install

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 final release is out

2012-05-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2012-05-22 16:39, Anne Nicolas a écrit : Hi all So here it is! Mageia 2 final release is out. - new web site layout: http://mageia.org - blog announcement: http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/05/22/mageia-2 - download isos: https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/ - release notes:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Kernel issues with atheros wifi

2012-04-17 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2012-04-17 16:56, JA Magallón a écrit : On 04/17/2012 10:50 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote: 17.04.2012 23:39, JA Magallón skrev: Hi... I've been bitten by this bug: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=139270p=1 on my netbook. From what I read, ath9k bug is corrected in 3.3.2, and

Re: [Mageia-dev] New wiki finally online

2011-11-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-11-14 12:34, Oliver Burger a écrit : After quite some work in the last weeks the new wiki is finally available! Check it out at https://wiki.mageia.org Until now only the English wiki is online, other will follow soon. We did import all (or most) of the contents from the old wiki and

Re: [Mageia-dev] Anybody having high CPU by kded4 after upgrading to 4.6.90?

2011-06-30 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-30 18:34, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU a écrit : This is making me crazy. After upgrading to KDE 4.6.90 (cauldron, of course), the bloody m*f*er kded4 (the worse idea in KDE4) constantly takes 55-75% CPU. Of course, killing it is possible, but this affects the plasmoids. (E.g. it made me

Re: [Mageia-dev] get-skype package for submission

2011-06-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-09 19:56, Barry Jackson a écrit : I have been working on a package to install Skype current stable release and now feel that it is ready for submission for approval. It has already been improved/corrected/adapted many times following discussions on #mageia-mentoring where I have been

Re: [Mageia-dev] get-skype package for submission

2011-06-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-10 20:13, Barry Jackson a écrit : On 10/06/11 15:08, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Barry Thanks for doing this. I uncompressed the file. What is the difference between the 2 .rpms? You may want to include a readme in the package for people like me. Cheers Marc Marc, It is not really

Re: [Mageia-dev] Providing 32-bit flash-player-plugin in x86_64 nonfree?

2011-06-07 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-05 15:45, andre999 a écrit : Marc Paré a écrit : Le 2011-06-05 03:59, Kira a écrit : 在 Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:25:59 +0800, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com寫道: I have just installed Mageia on a 64 bit and the 64bit Flash .rpm is quite painless from the Adobe site. Cheers Marc The major

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 is out finally!

2011-06-01 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-01 13:29, Anne nicolas a écrit : Hi all Finally release is out and in time! First of all thanks all for the hard work during these 8 months. I guess Mageia community (packagers, admins, translators, testers, artwork) can be proud of this final release. Still some improvments are

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 is out finally!

2011-06-01 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-01 13:29, Anne nicolas a écrit : Hi all Finally release is out and in time! First of all thanks all for the hard work during these 8 months. I guess Mageia community (packagers, admins, translators, testers, artwork) can be proud of this final release. Still some improvments are

[Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly

2010-12-26 Thread Marc Paré
I was just recently reminded of this on a Mdv list. Is there a way to make the setting of NFS shares easier for users. Way back in Mandriva 2008 the NFS process was very well done and users would only have to establish NFS shares with other computers and the etc/fstab was properly written.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly

2010-12-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-12-26 12:17, Daniel Kreuter a écrit : On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com mailto:m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-12-26 07:16, Daniel Kreuter a écrit : Should I submit this as a bug? Do we have a bugzilla? Marc We should submit it as a bug when

Re: [Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly

2010-12-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-12-26 17:29, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Op zondag 26 december 2010 09:50:34 schreef Marc Paré: I was just recently reminded of this on a Mdv list. Is there a way to make the setting of NFS shares easier for users. Way back in Mandriva 2008 the NFS process was very well done and users

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycle - what is actually POSSIBLE?

2010-11-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-26 03:14, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/11/26 andre999and...@laposte.net: MIhail Papadopoulos a écrit : Why not going down the right path: A rolling release cycle would be simply great. After all, this isn't a commercial distribution, so it shouldn't be a total noob Ubuntu-style

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycle - what is actually POSSIBLE?

2010-11-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-26 05:35, Oliver Burger a écrit : Marc Parém...@marcpare.com schrieb am 2010-11-26 Do we have an archive list of the user mailist where we can refer people to continue on that particular thread? Are the mailists archived?

Re: [Mageia-dev] New mirror -- maybe

2010-11-04 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-04 03:14, Ahmad Samir a écrit : On 3 November 2010 22:41, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: If I was to approach our local university about mirroring Mageia, would I have to supply them some specs? What would they need to know and who would they have to get into contact with? They

[Mageia-dev] New mirror -- maybe

2010-11-03 Thread Marc Paré
If I was to approach our local university about mirroring Mageia, would I have to supply them some specs? What would they need to know and who would they have to get into contact with? They are mirroring the Mandriva KDE updates. University of Waterloo. The university just announced last week

[Mageia-dev] LibreOffice

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
the LibreOffice as its main office suite. Thanks for any informtion. Merci Marc Paré

Re: [Mageia-dev] LibreOffice

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 12:30, Hoyt Duff a écrit : On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: I am a member of the Mageia marketing team and as well as a LibreOffice marketing team member. Thanks for any informtion. Merci Marc Paré Could you employ your marketing-fu

Re: [Mageia-dev] LibreOffice

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 11:48, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le mardi 02 novembre 2010 à 09:55 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : I am a member of the Mageia marketing team and as well as a LibreOffice marketing team member. I have been asked to enquire if LibreOffice will be included in the Mageia distro

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-18 04:18, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : Here's the result of the German community. After the initial opening of the poll there was a discussion with more than 40 postings, still going on. Involved were people actively using ArchLinux, members of our packaging team and interested users.

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-18 04:26, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/10/18 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com: Thanks Michael for the note. This is why I am in favour of streamlining the reporting of bugs from the user side and not the dev. Devs should always count on seeing bugs reported on bugzilla and nothing

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-17 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-17 04:34, Tux99 a écrit : On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, David W. Hodgins wrote: I know enough c, perl, python, etc., that I can sometimes figure out where the problem is, (when submitting bug reports), but I don't know enough to put together rpm packages, or where to start, to learn how to

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-17 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-17 19:44, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010 à 22:00 -0500, Fernando Parra a écrit : I am just coming back from my weekend, so I may have missed lots of discussion, but there is 2 points in your mail that I really wanted to address. The basic/novice user doesn't

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-16 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-16 02:56, Luca Berra a écrit : On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:00:14PM -0500, Fernando Parra wrote: The basic/novice user doesn't read anything, remove basic/novice from the sentence and i will agree ;) doesn't request anything to some like a bugzilla, but give him a forum and he

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-16 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-16 12:36, Ahmad Samir a écrit : But generally reporting bugs by proxy is always a bad idea, unless the guy who'll play middle-man can reproduce the exact same bug on his own box. You see, triage team / package maintainer / dev will ask for info about the bug, more than once

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-16 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-16 15:52, Renaud MICHEL a écrit : On samedi 16 octobre 2010 at 21:29, Marc Paré wrote : There would be no middle man. Once the middle-man could replicate the bug and verify the bug with other users, then the middle-man would submit to bugzilla. That's it. From there on, the middle

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-16 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-16 16:08, Frederic Janssens a écrit : On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 21:52, Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+mag...@gmail.com mailto:r.h.michel%2bmag...@gmail.com wrote: I think it may work if those bug friends (don't remember who proposed that name) only take for themselves the

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-16 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-16 18:35, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 21:29, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-10-16 12:36, Ahmad Samir a écrit : It's much better to help the user formulate a useful bug report, that's easier / more productive for all involved parties. There would

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-15 07:42, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/10/15 Anssi Hannulaanssi.hann...@iki.fi: Seems sensible to ask the mirror owners. It is possible some of them have not been aware of the problem at all, so I think we should make sure they understand that Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, etc. also

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 09:08, Sinner from the Prairy a écrit : Marc Paré wrote: Thanks for posting the site Tux99. There was talk of more user groups doing the poll/survey. Does anyone know if this is being done? Great data for the devs to consider. Marc This in the Spanish-speaking Mandriva

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 09:57, Tux99 a écrit : Quote: marc wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 15:49 Is it me or is the poll different? The overall feeling on the Spanish Blogdrake is to like Mandriva a stable system with upgrades and backports at 58%. I imagine this means keeping to Mandriva release cycle

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 09:53, Tux99 a écrit : Just to add to my last post: It would be useful if users could disable specifc packages from being updated via the update GUI. What I mean is basically when new updates get presented (which would include new backports) the user could untick specific

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 11:02, Anssi Hannula a écrit : On Wednesday 13 October 2010 14:29:14 Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-13 14:23, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 à 20:06 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit : Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 19:31:44, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le mardi 12

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 12:08, Ahmad Samir a écrit : On 14 October 2010 17:04, Anssi Hannulaanssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote: On Wednesday 13 October 2010 20:54:45 Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote: About codecs Codeina will be available in Mageia ? I find it very comfortable for new and advanced users. Yes.

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 10:56, Sinner from the Prairy a écrit : Tux99 wrote: I guess the old rule of polls applies: depending on how you formulate the poll question and the description of the options you can hugely influence the results... This is so true. I follow the politics blog FiveThirtyEight

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 10:50, nicolas vigier a écrit : On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Tux99 wrote: I think they should be enabled by default, since it's my impression that the majority of 'normal' users wants new versions of apps, those users who DON'T want them can still always disable them. If backports

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 12:42, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 18:32, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: Is there a dedicated mailist for the leaders of the different communities? It would probably make sense to have a closed list for them to coordinate projects such as polls,

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 13:05, Tux99 a écrit : On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Maurice Batey wrote: However, I then found that the new version of VLC had problems with DVD menus, and the new CUPS introduced problems (not just in my installation but at least one other Mandriva user). I would put this down to the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Questions about patents is related to which law applies to Mageia. No answers to which law then no clear policy can be applied. For me, since Mageia.org will lead the project (and will own Mageia trademarks) is located in France, since build system of Mageia will be in France then French law

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 21:55, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/10/14 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com: So, it sounds to me, that a core group individual, should, as an official representative of the Mageia project, approach these organisations and FSF to check and to get advice/opinons. Just to make sure.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-13 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-13 10:49, andré a écrit : Tux99 a écrit : On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, [UTF-8] Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-12 22:04, Tux99 a écrit : According to your logic that would mean we can't include ssh, openssl, pgp, and even https support in any browser. Does that seems reasonable to you? You

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-13 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-13 13:04, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/10/13 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com: Yes, I have always seen this as a communication problem from the Mandriva documentation. However, it did fit the at arm's length legal definition of the installation of these pieces of software. That is to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-13 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-13 14:23, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 à 20:06 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit : Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 19:31:44, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 17:53 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit : == And DVDCSS, etc? What's in etc ? However,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-13 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-13 14:44, Sinner from the Prairy a écrit : Wolfgang Bornath wrote: It's easy to communicate, it's easy to implement fitting even those dumb users some people are talking about. Yesterday I installed the new Ubuntu 10.10, a window opened near the end of the installation process

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-13 Thread Marc Paré
I was actually going to approach a university in Canada this week about mirroring but I think I will wait till this is sorted out. I don't believe I could convince them if they read this thread. They would most definitely have second thoughts. Well, then you can simply be clear with them and

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-13 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-14 00:20, Tux99 a écrit : Quote: Fernando Parra wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 05:59 Sinner from the Prairy wrote: We should publicize more Backports. And I shall reply over and over again, backports isn't a solution, maybe it's a technical solution, but it isn't The Solution.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-12 12:21, Lucien-Henry Horvath a écrit : Le 12/10/2010 18:19, Tux99 a écrit : I think Mageia should include as much multimedia codecs as possible, it the user's responsibility to know the laws of his/her country and if necessary uninstall anything unlicensed/illegal in his/her

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-12 17:45, Tux99 a écrit : Quote: marc wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 19:31 The safest route is to offer FOSS software (they are well known and many have had their code audited) and leave the fringe softs on a repo that is left to the users' choice as install. Marc, FOSS has

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-12 22:04, Tux99 a écrit : Marc, just as a further point to reflect on: there are countries in the world were encryption is illegal or severely restricted. According to your logic that would mean we can't include ssh, openssl, pgp, and even https support in any browser. Does that

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-13 01:14, Tux99 a écrit : On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, [UTF-8] Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-12 22:04, Tux99 a écrit : According to your logic that would mean we can't include ssh, openssl, pgp, and even https support in any browser. Does that seems reasonable to you? You need to face

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycle - what is actually POSSIBLE?

2010-10-09 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-09 03:57, Margot a écrit : There has been a lengthy debate about users' wishes for the Mageia release cycle, but one important voice has been missing from this debate: the collective voice of the devs who will be responsible for producing the releases. Before we start having polls

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 09:46, Florian Hubold a écrit : Am 30.09.2010 12:34, schrieb Olivier Méjean: Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 12:19:43, Robert Xu a écrit : Is a survey necessary ? It's not really necessary. For example, in mandriva my laptop had no internet when booting the first time, as my wireless

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Updating released versions (long post)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 16:32, Frank Griffin a écrit : Marc Paré wrote: So, in terms of space used for this, if you had to install all 6, would this tax the system so much and risk filling up the hardrive needlessly. Not really, since the old versions would be removed when the new ones were installed

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Updating released versions (long post)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 23:45, andré a écrit : Frank Griffin a écrit : Marc Paré wrote: Thanks. So this thread is to see if there were a possibility to programme a more efficient roll-back option so that it would be more aware of the previous dependencies needs for the previous version. Having double

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-07 04:55, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 07:34, Gustavo Giampaoli giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be possible to use the same schema that Mandriva use + one LTS with three years of support? Regular releases every six months with 18 month support. But

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-07 07:23, Olivier Méjean a écrit : Le jeudi 7 octobre 2010 13:00:21, Marc Paré a écrit : I would challenge people to find a regular user who knew what the Backport option was for, you may find some but clearly, they would be in the minority. Otherwise, it would have been used quite

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Marc Paré
To make it clearer, if the user wants to install oo-base at a later point with the currend Mdv model he would have to download 20MB if there has been no security updates since release, or 70MB if there has been a security update in the meantime. FYI, there is currently a discussion on the

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-06 Thread Marc Paré
Personally as a future Mageia packager I will try to concentrate on making backports (apart from maintaining some specific packages) so in a way I will be helping to make Mageia in practice a sort of 'light' rolling distro as suggested by a few people in this thread. But I just want to say that

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-06 Thread Marc Paré
Selecting an Education based install (which could be used with other software selections is what I had in mind. This could be called the Education software group (for want of a better name). Like that you don't need a special Education version, it's the same DVD for everyone. Of course, the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-06 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-06 17:27, andré a écrit : Hoyt Duff a écrit : On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:11 PM, andréand...@laposte.net wrote: So far in simplified terms, for the education target, we have focus on school boards in US/Canada and Australia/New Zealand; focus on regional gov'ts in Germany. Here I mean

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-06 Thread Marc Paré
Hi all. At this time, there is a survey asking to the blogdrake's community what kind of release cycle they prefer. This survey will be active until the weekend and I think this could be an acceptable look about community preferences. We must

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-06 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-06 20:02, vfmBOFH a écrit : 2010/10/7 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com mailto:m...@marcpare.com Le 2010-10-06 17:10, vfmBOFH a écrit : 2010/10/1 atilla ontas tarakbu...@gmail.com mailto:tarakbu...@gmail.com mailto:tarakbu...@gmail.com

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-06 Thread Marc Paré
school/university labs... etc. And even for personal use, not many would appreciate having to do an unanticipated reinstall or restore from backup. Particularly those who want to avoid upgrading their distro every 6 months. ;) Rolling distro, anyone ? - André (andre999) Romain suggest an

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-03 Thread Marc Paré
Targeting the school boards makes a lot of sense. Note that Openoffice targeted various gov't organisations in France, some of which ended up migrating to Mandriva as well. Maybe that could work with school boards as well. I'm tempted to try something like that with mine, in banlieue of Montréal.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-03 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-03 02:34, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/10/3 andréand...@laposte.net: Targeting the school boards makes a lot of sense. Again this is something you can not generalize, different countries have different structures. In Germany it is not a school board who decides what software

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-03 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-03 04:34, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/10/3 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com: I can't speak for André (he sounds like he is Canadian), but I am not a US citizen, I am Canadian. Our school system and software purchase models are the same as you describe. However, we do consult with

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Marc Paré
Majority of users do not want choice. Those of us who want choice are knowledgeable enough to find out how to install $AlternativeSoftware. Salut, Sinner I agree with this statement. Human nature, being what it is, will always look for the shortest and easiest route. Marc

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-01 06:38, Fabrice Facorat a écrit : I've been following closely all the Mandriva vs Mageia story. I found it unfortunate that we have to come to this way, but I guess there's a serious fracture between Mandriva and part of its community. We have no choice except to cope with this and

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-01 07:23, Tux99 a écrit : On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Fabrice Facorat wrote: This is about making some decisions about some tools. Some of the Mandriva tools have outdate UI, cluttered UI and even are sometimes buggy. The situation persists since many years already, so at some point we

Re: [Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia?

2010-09-30 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-09-30 15:55, Anne nicolas a écrit : As a note, I spoke with Pascal Chevrel today from Mozilla Europe. He told me that Debian was going back to use Firefox. Legal issues are solved --- Anne I believe even at the time that Debian had issues with the Firefox brand, that Mozilla

Re: [Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen

2010-09-22 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-09-22 17:49, Anne nicolas a écrit : Hi all News on our messy kitchen available below :) http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18 (other languages coming soon) As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we can start very soon. As a reminder, you can register on