Re: [MBZ] Car question, 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E300D

2008-07-14 Thread John Freer
One source is: http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html On 7/14/08, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:52:10 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120282924207

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread jfreezn
Chuck, DBR: Destroy Before Reading, right? You cryptics guys!!! Jim -Original Message- From: Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 9:53 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity Hey Jim It's easy DBR...

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey Jim It's easy DBR Chuck Phoenix AZ also On Jul 14, 2008, at 9:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > JEEEZUS, Kaleb! How much of this do we have to put up with? > After all, he > is an American! > > > Jim Friesen > Phoenix AZ > 79 300SD, 265 K miles > 98 ML 320,

Re: [MBZ] Spamming the list with a 1987 300D for sale

2008-07-14 Thread Jack Dahlgren
I can take some in the next couple of days if you are really interested. What do you want to see shots of? -Jack On 7/14/08, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > any additional pics? > > > Jack Dahlgren wrote: > > Some of you may remember me from the old days of the mbz.org lists. > >

Re: [MBZ] Spamming the list with a 1987 300D for sale

2008-07-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
any additional pics? Jack Dahlgren wrote: > Some of you may remember me from the old days of the mbz.org lists. > And I'm back from the dead to sell off my 1987 300D. > > Here are the details: > Only 155603 miles! > Trap was removed before the car had been driven many miles. > Car has been garage

[MBZ] Spamming the list with a 1987 300D for sale

2008-07-14 Thread Jack Dahlgren
Some of you may remember me from the old days of the mbz.org lists. And I'm back from the dead to sell off my 1987 300D. Here are the details: Only 155603 miles! Trap was removed before the car had been driven many miles. Car has been garaged or in California for most of its life so it is rust fre

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Talk to Lt Wacko about it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > JEEEZUS, Kaleb! How much of this do we have to put up with? After all, he > is an American! > > > Jim Friesen > Phoenix AZ > 79 300SD, 265 K miles > 98 ML 320, 157 K miles > 94 Bravada, 190 K miles > > > > In a message dated

Re: [MBZ] Car question, 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E300D

2008-07-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, probably. The non turbo has like 130 some horse power. But the later turbo versions are really something. Craig McCluskey wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120282924207 > > this one has the first double overhead cam diesel engine so it >

[MBZ] I love stupid people

2008-07-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Had a guy email me about the E420. I had a whole bunch of pictures up already. He wants more. OK, so I send him more. He decided he did not want the car because of brake dust on the wheels and a spot on the carpet. OOOKK. Its a 14 year old daily driver, a very low mile one at that. I

Re: [MBZ] Get Back To Me Asap From: Mrs Farah al-Hashemi

2008-07-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
buy a bunch of land and fill it with junk cars Loren Faeth wrote: > Ja, but it gives us a chance to poke fun at the Honored Herr Listmeister! > > So, Kleb, what are you going to do with your 12 Mil when you get it? > > At 04:00 PM 7/13/2008, you wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:59:33 -0500 "Rick

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread JFreezn
JEEEZUS, Kaleb! How much of this do we have to put up with? After all, he is an American! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 265 K miles 98 ML 320, 157 K miles 94 Bravada, 190 K miles In a message dated 7/14/2008 7:28:48 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: H

Re: [MBZ] Car question, 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E300D

2008-07-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:52:10 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120282924207 > > > > this one has the first double overhead cam diesel engine so > > it does not need a turbo. It will

[MBZ] Fw: Check Tire Manufacture Date

2008-07-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:42:27 -0600 Subject: Check Tire Manufacture Date http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897 Just because you purchase brand new tires, it doesn't mean they aren't old in terms of when they were manufactured. Click on the link for a vi

Re: [MBZ] 603 IP timing

2008-07-14 Thread JFreezn
When using the lock pin, you will find that it correctly engages at 15 degrees after top dead center. Move the pump to get engagement. Jim in Phoenix In a message dated 7/14/2008 8:18:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few years ago, there was a discussion of

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
Drilling ANWR is stupid. It should be our last strategic reserve. Remember Katrina? Do you know where our current reserves are kept? All along the coast. Remember the disrupted pipe lines? Guess what else fed into them? ANWR is enough to last us less than a decade at current consumption. We nee

Re: [MBZ] Car question, 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E300D

2008-07-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120282924207 > > this one has the first double overhead cam diesel engine so it > does not need a turbo. It will out run my previous Mercedes 2.5turbo. > This car also has the more disera

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
I think we call it capitalism, which in its most base form is nothing but selfishness and gluttony. Humanity and society be damned for the price of a quick cheap buck. Seriously, have you ever been to a Walmart? Gluttony abound. People arent shopping for the produce. -Rolf John Robbins wrote

Re: [MBZ] Car question, 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E300D

2008-07-14 Thread Redghost
False The 95 was NA, but later years got the turbo om606 It has some giddy up, but nothing to write home about. Will lag behind any gas car. Once you are up to speed enough to spool the turbo who really cares? since you are left in the dust anyway Transmission repairs are a pain in most an

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
Mhh Oreos. Got Milk? Rolf Redghost wrote: > The boy is an oreo. > > waspy bible thumper > > On 14 Jul 2008, at 19:28, Wonko the Sane wrote: > > >> How many of you folks believe that Obama (1) is a Muslim and (2) >> was sworn >> into his Senate office with his hand on the Koran? >> >> Jus

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread Redghost
The boy is an oreo. waspy bible thumper On 14 Jul 2008, at 19:28, Wonko the Sane wrote: > How many of you folks believe that Obama (1) is a Muslim and (2) > was sworn > into his Senate office with his hand on the Koran? > > Just curious. > > -- > LT Don > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ > > ap

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Luther
Don, et all. My reason to advocate change is the future. We do not know how much longer our oil supply will last at this usage rate. Why not start the conservation race now? If Americans are forced to dig deeper into their pockets to pay for gas, food, etc, they will be more likely to begin

[MBZ] Car question, 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E300D

2008-07-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120282924207 this one has the first double overhead cam diesel engine so it does not need a turbo. It will out run my previous Mercedes 2.5turbo. This car also has the more diserable 4 speed transmission th

Re: [MBZ] 603 IP timing

2008-07-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:04:39 -0500 Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A few years ago, there was a discussion of the subject on the list > and I copied and saved a procedure. From what AI can tell, the IP > with the locking pin is set to lock in the pin at 15 degrees AFTER > TDC. can an

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Loren Faeth
Actually many list members have cars that WILL run on sunflowers. Oil that isSun Gold, kansas tea. You kansans are just not smart enough to squeeze the oil out of them thar seeds! Better yet, mount an engine powered oil mill on top of the engine, then feed the oil straight into the en

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread Loren Faeth
Good answer! Give the man a prize, Wonko! At 10:10 PM 7/14/2008, you wrote: >Wonko the Sane wrote: > > How many of you folks believe that Obama (1) is a Muslim and (2) was sworn > > into his Senate office with his hand on the Koran? > >I think he's a devil worshiper and goes to baby eating partie

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread TE
Man... you guys are effed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity Wonko the Sane wrote: > How many of you folks be

Re: [MBZ] Get Back To Me Asap From: Mrs Farah al-Hashemi

2008-07-14 Thread Loren Faeth
Ja, but it gives us a chance to poke fun at the Honored Herr Listmeister! So, Kleb, what are you going to do with your 12 Mil when you get it? At 04:00 PM 7/13/2008, you wrote: >On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:59:33 -0500 "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > >> It seems we already are since the

[MBZ] 603 IP timing

2008-07-14 Thread Loren Faeth
A few years ago, there was a discussion of the subject on the list and I copied and saved a procedure. From what AI can tell, the IP with the locking pin is set to lock in the pin at 15 degrees AFTER TDC. can anyone verify that I have this right. I am used to the old 26 BTDC on the 621 engin

Re: [MBZ] And then there is: 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class DIESEL

2008-07-14 Thread Loren Faeth
And Houston is known as car-scam city Must be something in the water! At 01:11 PM 7/12/2008, you wrote: >On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:39:45 -0600 Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > Mileage: 212,232 miles > > > > Location: Houston,Texas > > > > > > Which is at $2,850.00 now ... >

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: > How many of you folks believe that Obama (1) is a Muslim and (2) was sworn > into his Senate office with his hand on the Koran? I think he's a devil worshiper and goes to baby eating parties with Dick Daley. What's my prize? ___ http://w

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: "If they found oil in Donalds back yard, they would not need to drill in his back yard. With technology today the drilling rig would be miles away. He would not even know there was any oil being pumped from under his house." If they found enough oil, I wouldn't care if they put t

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread Gary Hurst
wow. i didn't know that! i just figured he was mainly about only criminals having guns, but you learn something new every day. if not for women's suffrage, we wouldn't even need to worry about this freak (or, for that matter, most of america's woes). women vote solely based on who they find sex

Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

2008-07-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:51:15 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > JFK was also a junior senator and several younger than Obama and no > > one questions his leadership abilities. > > I don't think he'd be any more popular than Johnson or Nixon if he'd > outli

Re: [MBZ] 201 shocks

2008-07-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Not bad at all. Jack it up, and set it down on jack stands under the control arm, in the hole where you would put a spring compressor. This keeps the weight of the car on the springs so they don't pop out. You need a 7mm allen to counter hold the strut to unscrew the top nut, then there ar

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
Naw, you don't want that rusty old Quantum. Buy the pickup. D. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spending time looking at > http://www.rickwrench.com/index79master.htm?http://www.rickwrench.com/falconnewtome.html > makes me want one... > > We test sat (t

[MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
How many of you folks believe that Obama (1) is a Muslim and (2) was sworn into his Senate office with his hand on the Koran? Just curious. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y _

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Kevin Slater
Well put Kaleb. The issue is the very small amount of slack capacity in the worldwide market (about 1 million barrels / day). If you increase that slack a bit, the prices will naturally lessen. The open market (which you can't close down, no matter what the clowns in Washington, DC think) will cont

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Donald Snook
Curt wrote: "So your alternative is just to drill for more oil? So your alternative is just to drill for more oil? What if we found oil in your backyard, is it okay if we tear down your house to drill for oil?" I do think we should drill for more oil. Absolutely. If we found a enough oil under

[MBZ] Carfax Please?

2008-07-14 Thread John Freer
wdbba48d5ga040291 Thanks in advance, John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listin

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Spending time looking at http://www.rickwrench.com/index79master.htm?http://www.rickwrench.com/falconnewtome.html makes me want one... We test sat (the dealership was closed) a Chevy Colorado the other day. The one we sat in was a crew cab and would seat 6 if you were personable. I was surprise

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Robert Rentfro
> Hmm, a Ford Falcon I6 circa late '60s would get about 20mpg. I don't think I ever calculated my mpg on my '62. I just remember how crappily it ran for a spell after you couldn't get leaded gas any longer. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

[MBZ] Back in AZ

2008-07-14 Thread Robert Rentfro
Well the trip to IL is complete. (We three waved as we passed Okieville yesterday) Drove home in two days since I was told of a meeting I must attend out at the old nuke plant tomorrow. (I should not have answered my phone while standing on the banks of the Illinois River) Anywho, here are the re

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Jim Cathey
> they are convinced they need all the crap they buy there... For those who can, check out the Big Box Mart parody on jibjab.com, it's pretty well done. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Jim Cathey
> Hmm, a Ford Falcon I6 circa late '60s would get about 20mpg. At least. After a fresh tune-up I got 30-31 several times on long cross-state trips in the '60. Holley 1-barrel carb, 144cid. Twenty-something was more usual, but "about 20" meant that something was wrong with it. Seats six, comfor

Re: [MBZ] Pacific Raceways

2008-07-14 Thread RELNGSON
> < straight and on dynamite S curve...>. > You have to view PRI by Google Earth to get the real picture. The S-curve, turns 3A & 3B, are at the bottom of a long steep downgrade with two 30mph turns at the bottom. My car's speed down the hill is about 90mph with heavy braking to 30mph (3rd gear

[MBZ] 201 shocks

2008-07-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If I ever get the AC going on my 190D where I can start driving it, I know I will need to do struts and ball joints on this thing. Never done them on a 201 before. How hard is it do to as compared to a 123 or a 126? I assume maybe its easier? I dont know. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK

Re: [MBZ] Ring driving

2008-07-14 Thread RELNGSON
> <> > That's one common scenario but the other is a car that can't handle high speeds except straight and level with a driver inexperienced in what can happen. RLE ** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread LarryT
It's about a ot more than transportation! Other than fuel we use oil for pigments, dyes, solvents, oil-based paints, plastic paints, and paint, film, garbage bags, milk cartons, synthetic fibers (think Carbon Fiber and Fiberglass), along with the fibers that produce wrinkle free clothing and c

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Not any siller then spending 7 years getting 3 years worth of oil. Whatchu gonna do when thats gone? We need a diversified answer to this that includes better public transit, better rail, better conservation and maybe additional drilling. NOBODY from the drilling side says ANYTHING about conserv

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
More efficient per square foot? Yes. But gain 1.5x in efficiency and make the house 2x and you've lost the battle... My Aunt moved from Maryland to Delaware because the taxes were way cheaper per foot. Then she built a 4000(!) sqft house. Now they complain at the taxes being 2x what they paid b

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If they found oil in Donalds back yard, they would not need to drill in his back yard. With technology today the drilling rig would be miles away. He would not even know there was any oil being pumped from under his house. But yes, the answer is yes, we need to drill for more oil NOW. That

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
I had to walk away from the dinner table on Saturday, my wife's aunt was complaining bitterly about the price of everything and saying how she'd cut back on everything while she lit up another Pal-Mall and continued chain smoking... -Curt Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:56:54 -0500 From: "Wonko the

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
So your alternative is just to drill for more oil? What if we found oil in your backyard, is it okay if we tear down your house to drill for oil? After all you've got an Expedition you burn lots of the stuff. What if we found oil under the FLW house could we tear that down? What if to get oil we h

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
The one thing I'll say Randy is at least you admit all of it You have a SuperCrew for all the wrong reasons. A Subaru Outback with a trailer hitch would probably be more useful, eat less gas and be cheaper to insure. Maybe even safer what with all the airbags and whatnot. Still you'd need to

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Hmm, a Ford Falcon I6 circa late '60s would get about 20mpg. A mini SUV, Ford Escape is rated for 21 w/a 4cyl 2.3 (!) liter... Minivans give more mileage per volume transported. Meaning you can move more stuff because of a larger interior for the gas used. They're cheaper to maintain and cheape

Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

2008-07-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
Freudian slip? On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:20 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I pray we *don > * > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It was about .79 when I graduated high school. I could basically fill up my 240D for about $12 and it would last me for at least a week, maybe 2. Wonko the Sane wrote: > $0.249 / gallon my senior year of high school (class of '70). > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
$0.249 / gallon my senior year of high school (class of '70). On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hell I would like 2.50 gas again > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced

[MBZ] FW: ANWR

2008-07-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
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Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread LarryT
rolf wrote the following garbage - <> So, it's take 10 years to get oil from Anwar or the contentintal shelf to the pump? How long do you think it;ll take to rebuild the rail system? How we going to rebuild all that roadway when the price of gas and fuel for the locomotives make it too expensi

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Actually, new bigger homes are more efficient that smaller older ones. John Robbins wrote: > Donald Snook wrote: >> A few questions for you. I already have a house. Should I get rid of >> 1/3 of my house? Should the government tear down my house and build >> one 2/3 the size of my house. Should I

Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

2008-07-14 Thread LarryT
Once again - some of you saw this coming - but JFK exhibited little leadership except during WW2 when lots of people were leaders. His one shining light was the Cuban missle crisis - although some say it was a mid level bureaucrat on the US side and a similar mid level diplomat on the USSR sid

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Hell I would like 2.50 gas again Donald Snook wrote: > Rolf wrote: "To an extent we need to go back to the trains and the village > lifestyle in order to allow us the niceties of taking the family car on > vacation. Give a little take a little. We have a lot to learn from Europe, > they already

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread R A Bennell
My point is that the average smuck on the street has been led down the garden path. We have been trained to expect unlimited cheap energy. Most of us went through this before, in the early 70's. I got rid of my V8 and bought a 4 cylinder car. I drove it several years and moved up to a 6 cylinder

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
You're dreaming now! The level of or even the increase in smoking and drinking Bud will be directly proportional to the amount of stress caused by economic problems. What's that great line from the movie Airplane? "I picked the wrong day to give up smoking drinking ... heroin ... " I work wi

Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

2008-07-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Whatever he says, rest assured we will all be paying our "fair share" in taxes. I am really looking forward to that! (I am sure that will mean I will be paying more taxes, but that is OK as it will be going to lots of worthy causes and programs, and it will be my "fair share.") It will give

Re: [MBZ] andrew strasfoge; blue TD?

2008-07-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
You haven't sent me a picture yet. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:08 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No - it's too good for that. > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Blue? Is it a parts car? I am looking for blue fenders and hood. > > > > andre

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread R A Bennell
An Explorer with a V6 is still smaller than the station wagon that your father drove. I really don't know why SUV's are picked on so much. A mini-van is not much different but no one seems to mind them. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain problem

2008-07-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Pretty much, except that I would check the injection timing before pulling the pump in case it's still correct -- it's heavy! Correct timing is 24 BTDC for NA engines, 26 BTDC for turbos. Peter On Jul 14, 2008, at 6:56 AM, Archer wrote: > Do I have this right? > > 1. Take out the valve lifters

Re: [MBZ] Video/Corvette ZR-1 at the Nurburgring

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
Never heard of that ring, but I have heard of this one : And it burn, burn, burns. The ring of fire ... -Rolf andrew strasfogel wrote: > The Ring of the Niebelung by Wagner?? > > > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Next time I go visit the Fatherland I

Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D turbo without seeing it first

2008-07-14 Thread Tyler Backman
No, I am pretty certain that the W201s with 5 speeds have a significantly lower rear axle ratio than the automatics, because the manual has a true overdrive, and the auto has a 1:1 highest gear. The W123 is different, because the 4 speed manuals are also without an overdrive gear. Tyler On J

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread John Robbins
Rolf wrote: > Walmart exists because of gluttony and selfishness. Where are you coming from with that? Because we're cheap? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread John Robbins
Donald Snook wrote: > A few questions for you. I already have a house. Should I get rid of > 1/3 of my house? Should the government tear down my house and build > one 2/3 the size of my house. Should I sell my house and buy a > smaller one? Wouldn't my house still be 1/3 too large for somebody. >

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
*ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* we have a winner. Walmart exists because of gluttony and selfishness. We sold ourselves out. Don't get me wrong I am to blame as much as the next. I spent my Chinese loan from the govt (AKA Bushes newest stimulus package) to pay off CC debt. Sooner or later its

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Donald Snook
Curt wrote: "If everybody in the western world had 1/3 smaller house we'd use less energy for heating and cooling." A few questions for you. I already have a house. Should I get rid of 1/3 of my house? Should the government tear down my house and build one 2/3 the size of my house. Should I se

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread John Robbins
Rolf wrote: > You still have to drive there to do the shopping. Do you buy your food > there? Do you have any idea how crappy it is quality wise? I live in a town that is about 7 miles across. Trains/busses are silly for a town that small. I buy my food there, but I eat horribly to begin with.

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread John Robbins
Curt Raymond wrote: > Its so what until you lose YOUR job because somebody cut their prices > too low... Welcome to the modern world of globalization! ;) > I can't believe anybody ever goes into a Wal-Mart. I feel stupider > the second I go in. There is no concept of customer service there as > t

Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D turbo without seeing it first

2008-07-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Rolf wrote: > On the W123 the gearing is the same on most manuals (any you would find > here at any rate) and autos, I am fairly certain the same goes for 124/201. The car in question, 190d turbo, has the only 2.65:1 final drive I know of in a W201. There's a guy on Mercedesshop who put a manny i

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
You still have to drive there to do the shopping. Do you buy your food there? Do you have any idea how crappy it is quality wise? -Rolf John Robbins wrote: > Rolf wrote: > >> The reasons Mom and Pop's couldn't compete was the debasement of the >> village concept being used to develop the subur

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
How about 0.79 cents per gallon? I am merely stating that we could make some minor changes to our lifestyles and decrease consumption greatly. Donald Snook wrote: > Rolf wrote: "To an extent we need to go back to the trains and the village > lifestyle in order to allow us the niceties of taking t

Re: [MBZ] dif ratios

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
He referred to the gearing of the transmissions, not the rear diff. The transmission gearing is the same (more or less). I have an 85 and hope to get some 2.47 gearing back there some day. As far as the diesels went the Om617.95X was always paired with a 3.07 except the 85 which was 2.88. The OM617

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is this a good deal? (Honda CB750)

2008-07-14 Thread ernest breakfield
friends and acquaintances of of mine with SV650s have had their suspension redone (mostly due to complaints with the front end) resulting in marked improvements. apparently, this is a pretty well-known area of weakness with these machines, but not at all insurmountable. cheers! e Curt Raymo

[MBZ] Looking for blue fenders/hood

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
They call it dark blue but its more of a navy blue. Color code 800. Not to be confused with midnight blue (metallic). I am repainting the whole car but would like the paint underneath to match because that just how I am. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For n

[MBZ] dif ratios (was: Re: Bought a 190D turbo without seeing it first)

2008-07-14 Thread ernest breakfield
Rolf, that might be true except for 1985 W123s, and perhaps W123 coupes,... i know at least some (if not all) '85 W123s had a taller ratio than preceding years, and i'm lead to believe that at least some of the coupes may have had a lower ratio than the sedans (perhaps to make them feel mor

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Its so what until you lose YOUR job because somebody cut their prices too low... I can't believe anybody ever goes into a Wal-Mart. I feel stupider the second I go in. There is no concept of customer service there as the poor bastards that work there are treated worse than dirt. The problem is t

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Wait, we're running out of energy and you don't think the consumers should be held accountable? We ARE the problem, every single one of us. If everybody in the western world had 1/3 smaller house we'd use less energy for heating and cooling. If every house were laid out correctly it could use p

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread John Robbins
Curt Raymond wrote: > Wait, she "has to have an SUV" for 3 car seats? Holy crap, all those > families with 3 kids and a stationwagon when I was growing up "had to > have" an SUV? I'm not around many folks with kids, etc but from my limited observation child seats have become significantly larger

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Oh, and BTW, if peace could magically break out in our two unwinnable foreign wars (ever see that Family Guy episode?) and we could some how magically get our trade deficit into order and the Dollar became worth the money its printed on oil prices would drop something like 40% OVERNIGHT. The pr

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Wait, she "has to have an SUV" for 3 car seats? Holy crap, all those families with 3 kids and a stationwagon when I was growing up "had to have" an SUV? Theres "have to have" and "its easier to have"... Besides why does she have 3 kids? I always wonder about that on the news "Bill has 16 childre

Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

2008-07-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
I didn't say that JFK was wildly popular, just that he had leadership ability. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kaleb wrote <> > > *That*is most likely - > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results ht

Re: [MBZ] the great dick van patten strikes again! (dog food offtopic)

2008-07-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
Sounds pretty plush/posh to me. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Rich Thomas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just moved to Johns Island SC, which is outside Charleston. Moved from > a small lot in the city of Houston to several acres on the marsh, and an > island (with what appears to be a grave m

Re: [MBZ] I hate ebay liars

2008-07-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
Maybe it's a Canadian 160 oz. gallon... On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:45 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tyler Backman wrote: > > The buyers might not be trying to lie, but might actually not know > > how to calculate fuel economy properly. I see all the time on forums > > people who c

Re: [MBZ] Video/Corvette ZR-1 at the Nurburgring

2008-07-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
The Ring of the Niebelung by Wagner?? On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Next time I go visit the Fatherland I am *definitely* doing the ring. I > didn't realize it was a toll road most of the time. Instead of spending > $800+ on benzine driving around the black

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, thats the fun part :) It'd be boring if all agreed to the same things (GOP/Dittoheads come to mind). I think we are both on the same track here, my track has a solution where yours is in search of one (again in my opinion). By no means do I say that we should

Re: [MBZ] andrew strasfoge; blue TD?

2008-07-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
No - it's too good for that. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Blue? Is it a parts car? I am looking for blue fenders and hood. > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > I also have said parts, plus my blue wagon if he wants a "new" car. > > > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:

Re: [MBZ] 300td deerslayer

2008-07-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
I stripped the rusty parts wagon of its drive train and other high value parts and sold the carcass to a crusher. The blue/blue daily driver 1983 300TD is still available. I am in D.C. Andrew On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where do you live and what is th

Re: [MBZ] Back to cars: 87 BMW convertible

2008-07-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Bzzt, wrong, the "eta" engine in the 325, 325e, and 528e had a timing belt, but all other BMW sixes have chains. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 1:14 PM, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Timing belt (not chain) needs attention every 60K miles. > > On 7/14/08, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread R A Bennell
Thank you. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:43 PM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow! Randy wrote: "Let me first of all say, that I firmly beieve that you are ent

Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D turbo without seeing it first

2008-07-14 Thread Rolf
On the W123 the gearing is the same on most manuals (any you would find here at any rate) and autos, I am fairly certain the same goes for 124/201. -Rolf Tyler Backman wrote: > I am *almost* certain that this rumor originated with people who > swapped in a manual, and kept > the stock different

Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

2008-07-14 Thread Donald Snook
Radny wrote: "Let me first of all say, that I firmly beieve that you are entitled to your opinion. However, I don't agree with it. I think that the automobile is and has been a wonderful thing. It boils down to the single word - "freedom". Go where you want, when you need or want to without meet

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