Re: [MBZ] School training - was: Final gun comment

2013-01-22 Thread Fmiser
Randy Bennell wrote: My wife was talking with a young woman [whose son] is 5 or 6 (I cannot recall which) [and] is having nightmares because, every day at school, they are having drills on what to do if someone comes to the school with a gun. G Mann wrote: Without going to

[MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
So as ya'll know, a friend in DC helped me replace my 240D timing chain this past weekend.  In exchange, I helped him with some bodywork on his pagoda.  Check it out here: http://stricht8.wordpress.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Speaking of, '87 300SDL

2013-01-22 Thread Tim C
Grey with a pinstripe. Rust in the door dent and front quarter on the exterior where paint was removed in the collision. Paint is horrible BTW, clear coat peeled miserably. I always had in mind to replace the quarter and door from the junkyard and then repaint, but never got to it. 300K,

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Another dangerous do gooder who must be stopped! On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So as ya'll know, a friend in DC helped me replace my 240D timing chain this past weekend. In exchange, I helped him with some bodywork on his pagoda. Check it

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread dseretakis
Aargh! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Another dangerous do gooder who must be stopped! On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So as ya'll know, a friend in DC helped me replace my

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Another dangerous do gooder who must be stopped! Because he made an old car that's probably only driven in fair weather daylight conditions less safe, or because he made a V8 Pagoda less original? Mitch. ___

[MBZ] Mercedes most expensive vehicle to insure

2013-01-22 Thread Gerry Archer
Each year, Insure.com ranks vehicles by the cost of insuring them. This year, in what it terms a ''remarkable upset,'' the Web-based insurance services provider said minivans are no longer the best choice in terms of the lowest insurance rates. For 2013 models, crossovers and SUVs have taken

Re: [MBZ] School training - was: Final gun comment

2013-01-22 Thread G Mann
For the sake of clarity. My culture of fear observation was only to include the wide area of our culture today, both in USA and Europe, where I have lived and observed, not anyone's personal parenting style. It is my observation that we have embraced as a strong component of present civilization

[MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

2013-01-22 Thread David Kristin Gilmore
I seem to remember someone in this group one time recommending using acid to improve the soil for growing potatoes. Can anyone provide details on the procedure? Or perhaps it was a joke. In any case I have between 3 and 4 gallons of battery acid I'd like to be rid of. I have googled

Re: [MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

2013-01-22 Thread Dan Penoff
Does your community have some sort of hazardous materials disposal arrangement, like someplace you can take it and drop it off to be properly disposed of? Or - do you know any shops that might want it? We used to keep dry batteries in storage and add acid as we needed them. I shudder to think

Re: [MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

2013-01-22 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:26 PM, David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: I have the box sitting up on a dry shelf in the equipment shed. I have never before needed battery acid and I don't anticipate needing it again. I don't want it to leak as the result of accident.

Re: [MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

2013-01-22 Thread Gerry Archer
On Jan 22, 2013, at 12:26 PM, David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: I seem to remember someone in this group one time recommending using acid to improve the soil for growing potatoes. Can anyone provide details on the procedure? Or perhaps it was a joke. In any case

Re: [MBZ] Why were they loaded?

2013-01-22 Thread Scott Ritchey
This is local for me. In fact I considered going to that show but stayed home because my wife is still recovering from a hip replacement. I have not found a more detailed description of events in the local media, bit it is obvious that all three of the basic gun safety rules were violated here

Re: [MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

2013-01-22 Thread G Mann
Contact your local chemistry teacher to explain how to do an Acid/Base mix to neutralize the acid for safe disposal. Sulfuric acid is a strong acid, however baking soda in the right proportion will render the PH to neutral. Use all the proper safety equipment and precautions in doing this of

[MBZ] Subject: Re: Sulphur Additive ?

2013-01-22 Thread RDeafBoy
Snake oil, no need for it. You'd be better off adding some bio-diesel to improve fuel lubricity, which may have suffered when the sulfur was removed. Sulfur won't help at all, may do harm; increase the amount of acids your oil needs to deal with. -- Max Dillon So how much bio-diesel

Re: [MBZ] Why were they loaded?

2013-01-22 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: This is local for me. In fact I considered going to that show but stayed home because my wife is still recovering from a hip replacement. Hey, me too! We should have a Triangle-Q some time. I also thought about

[MBZ] excess battery acid

2013-01-22 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
Give the excess battery acid to a shop that can use it a battery store, for example or auto parts store!! don't waste energy neutralizing it, etc i'd take it if you were in georgia, but then i sell motor scooters and mess with batteries all the time i'm sure if you dilute it 50 times

Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Sulphur Additive ?

2013-01-22 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:49 PM, rdeaf...@aol.com wrote: So how much bio-diesel per 17 gallon tank ?? 17 gallons of commercial biod, plus or minus. :) It's good to use occasionally, fortunately I have a nearby pump that is close to diesel price (so I just pay in nominally lower MPG). I

Re: [MBZ] Why were they loaded?

2013-01-22 Thread Peter Hertzing
Okay - This killed me too (no pun intended). Let me start by saying I don't own a gun. Not against em and have shot plenty of them, but don't own one. I was taught for many years from a young age that a gun was loaded. You treated them all as if they were loaded, even once you confirmed they

Re: [MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

2013-01-22 Thread Mitch Haley
G Mann wrote: Contact your local chemistry teacher to explain how to do an Acid/Base mix to neutralize the acid for safe disposal. Sulfuric acid is a strong acid, however baking soda in the right proportion will render the PH to neutral. When I was in high school, the chemistry lab had its

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
He made it more esthetically pleasing, which is good. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Another dangerous do gooder who must be stopped! Because he made an old car that's probably only driven in fair weather daylight conditions

Re: [MBZ] Was Final gun comment now socializm

2013-01-22 Thread clay monroe
I feel it has more to do with social issues than fear. We grew up either having to bust our behinds to feed and clothe our family or were raised by people who were not far removed from what is now considered farm life. Today it all comes from the store, where everything is sanitized for our

Re: [MBZ] Was Final gun comment now socializm

2013-01-22 Thread Frederick Moir
Amen.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Final gun comment now socializm I feel it has more to do with

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a Car - Part Deux

2013-01-22 Thread clay monroe
I can drive it down if you get one from out in the PNW. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3563765477.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3563564471.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3563122908.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3562865581.html

Re: [MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

2013-01-22 Thread clay monroe
Use it to do an acid wash or concrete that is dirty. Like in a swimming pool. Mist it on, scrub, hose off with lots of water so it dilutes. pour it into a swimming pool that is too alkali. Drops pH very well and dilutes in the water. Run it through the church coffee makers and remove the

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a Car - Part Deux

2013-01-22 Thread Tim C
Slightly closer. http://charlotte.craigslist.org/search/sss?srchType=AzoomToPosting=query=mercedes%7CbenzminAsk=2000maxAsk=3000 I have noticed that Charlotte is usually cheaper than Raleigh, but Raleigh often has much nicer stuff. Columbia SC is cheaper than both. I think Atlanta is cheaper

[MBZ] More Hawaii - this one off topic

2013-01-22 Thread Randy Bennell
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p294/oldsub86/2013_0107Hawaii_Wedding0033.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p294/oldsub86/2013_0107Hawaii_Wedding0007.jpg These are photos from our hotel room balcony. That is the marina where the 56 Benz was parked. Randy

[MBZ] More Hawaii - back on topic

2013-01-22 Thread Randy Bennell
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p294/oldsub86/2013_0107Hawaii_Wedding0040.jpg Another old MB that I saw on the street while walking down to Waikiki beach. Lots of new MB's there too. Saw some other old ones too. When we were on the big island, I took my sister to the airport as she was

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread Randy Bennell
On 22/01/2013 8:32 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: So as ya'll know, a friend in DC helped me replace my 240D timing chain this past weekend. In exchange, I helped him with some bodywork on his pagoda. Check it out here: http://stricht8.wordpress.com/ ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

2013-01-22 Thread Fmiser
David [or] Kristin Gilmore wrote: I seem to remember someone in this group one time recommending using acid to improve the soil for growing potatoes. _Sweet_ potatoes and blueberries are both plants that prefer acidic soil. But adding battery acid is _NOT_ the way to achieve it!

Re: [MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

2013-01-22 Thread G Mann
An extra word of caution in handling sodium hydroxide in powder form. Contact with mucous membrane, such as eyelids or mouth, or ingestion into the lungs can and will do great physical harm, Possible harm which can not be recovered from, for example if it is breathed into the lung. It reacts

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread Max Dillon
So where are the pictures of the timing chain replacement on your 240D? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So as ya'll know, a friend in DC helped me replace my 240D timing chain this past weekend.  In exchange, I helped

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread OK Don
Good work. Will you post the final, painted results? Which V8 is in the car? Unless excess weight is on the front axel, that should be an awesome SL! On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: So as ya'll know, a friend in DC helped me replace my 240D timing

Re: [MBZ] OT Cheap Tablet PC Screen byhysema

2013-01-22 Thread Mountain Man
Jim wrote: HP150? Want one? I always thought the system was collectible, but sons nixed that idea, even though they were the ones that did schoolwork on it - it got recycled. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Drills and shelter WAS: OT: Final gun comment

2013-01-22 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: Kids should be trained to be watchful for dangers... Situational Awareness. Focus today is me, me, not you. That used to be the norm until the 1900s when coddling became popular. Coddling is one thing, mothering is another. My sons were mothered - very valuable, I might

Re: [MBZ] School training - was: Final gun comment

2013-01-22 Thread Mountain Man
Dr.Grant wrote: The Flight response has no real social equivalent [well, perhaps the local bar] so that is simply internalized into the accumulated culture of stress which we pass on to our young. Nice - thanks. Besides the local bar you might add the large screen sports addiction along with

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread dseretakis
Thanks. No that's not a Planishing hammer- sounds like a shrinking hammer. Any auto body hammer with a smooth head can be used to planish. Some body hammers are called Planishing but I'm not sure why. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread dseretakis
Haha. Didn't take any but sure thought about it. My friend worked at lightning speed and it was cold so didn't get a chance. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: So where are the pictures of the timing chain replacement on your 240D? --

Re: [MBZ] Was Final gun comment now socializm

2013-01-22 Thread Mountain Man
clay wrote: Americans no longer build a nation, they pillage the carcass of industry, growing rich off of illusory wealth scams like Madoff or the housing bubble. Toss heaps of cash at vaporware tech firms that promise unlimited energy from imaginary solar or biofuels. Pump up financial

Re: [MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

2013-01-22 Thread Curt Raymond
My local motorcycle shop has one of those, you might check around (Craigslist perhaps) and see if somebody wants to buy it. Maybe get $10 back. Otherwise if you're careful you could use it to de-rust parts. I use citric acid frequently for lantern parts. Some guys use hydrochloric in diluted

Re: [MBZ] Sulphur Additive ?

2013-01-22 Thread Curt Raymond
Last year I ran about 1/2 tank B5 in my 240D and got a noticible reduction in sound which I attribute to the increased lubricity of bio. -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:49:28 -0500 (EST) From: rdeaf...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Sulphur Additive ? Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] Was Final gun comment now socializm

2013-01-22 Thread Mountain Man
The Crimson Permanent Assurance I had to look that up - nice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUiBBltOg4 Standard banned closure ommitted mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread dseretakis
Thanks. The car needs more bodywork so it'll be a while before it's painted. I have to repair the nose as well. It has a 560 engine mated to a 5 speed manual getrag tranny. The challenge was finding an appropriate bell housing so my friend sourced an ultra rare AMG bell housing which allowed

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I watched and nodded approvingly. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:56 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. The car needs more bodywork so it'll be a while before it's painted. I have to repair the nose as well. It has a 560 engine mated to a 5 speed manual getrag tranny. The challenge was

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread dseretakis
Didn't Gael give you a ride in it yet? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I watched and nodded approvingly. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:56 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. The car needs more bodywork so it'll be a while

Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project

2013-01-22 Thread OK Don
SWEET car! The first one with the loss of traction on wet pavement reminds me of my MGA with the Olds 215 V8 - LOTS of fun. Congratulations on your part of the conversion (BTDT, know the work and time involved). On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:56 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. The car needs

Re: [MBZ] Sulphur Additive ?

2013-01-22 Thread ernest breakfield
actually, the quieter running has to do with the difference in ignition and flame rates in the combustion chamber, not the lubricity (which would only affect the Injection Pump and Injectors). cheers! e '85 300D 211K miles (95K+ on B99+) On 22/Jan/13 17:40, Curt Raymond wrote: Last year I