Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps

2008-04-05 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:46:51 +0930 Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously we drive on the RIGHT side of the road, which is the left, > whereas you drive on the wrong side of the road, which is the right. > > Hendrik I see. So your right-hand drive autos being a little different fro

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps

2008-04-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Obviously we drive on the RIGHT side of the road, which is the left, whereas you drive on the wrong side of the road, which is the right. Hendrik Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 05:28:24 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >>> had to fabricate (sounds better than cut

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps

2008-04-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
It was also a LH drive 201, I have a big hole on the passenger side for the auto box cable but I needed one on the drivers side. There is a hole already cut in the foam insulation, which I used as a guide as to where to cut the hole. Hendrik Jim Cathey wrote: >> had to fabricate (sounds better

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps

2008-04-05 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 05:28:24 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > had to fabricate (sounds better than cut) a hole for the > > line to the slave. Not hard to do but just a tad sad to > > cut into my Benz, even if it was just a 25mm hole. > > When I did it the manny's clutch pipe obvious

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps

2008-04-05 Thread Jim Cathey
> had to fabricate (sounds better than cut) a hole for the > line to the slave. Not hard to do but just a tad sad to > cut into my Benz, even if it was just a 25mm hole. When I did it the manny's clutch pipe obviously went through the same hole that the slushbox's electrical cable used to use. Tha

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-05 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Yeah mine has the hole for the hose from the brake fluid reservoir to the clutch master cylinder but had to fabricate (sounds better than cut) a hole for the line to the slave. Not hard to do but just a tad sad to cut into my Benz, even if it was just a 25mm hole. Now I have to work out the elec

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-04 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:59:34 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hendrik & Fay wrote: > > > > You'd be amazed at how many parts are simple drag and drop. > > I can only talk about the 123's but so far I have figured out... > > Craig has a Frankenbenz of sorts. It's a 240d manny

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik & Fay wrote: > > You'd be amazed at how many parts are simple drag and drop. > I can only talk about the 123's but so far I have figured out... Craig has a Frankenbenz of sorts. It's a 240d manny with a 300d engine. What I don't recall is whether the 240d was automatic or manual before

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-04 Thread Hendrik & Fay
You'd be amazed at how many parts are simple drag and drop. I can only talk about the 123's but so far I have figured out that the tail shaft is longer in the manual, there is no hole for the fluid line to the slave cylinder, the manual gearshift assembly fits into the auto gearshift assembly, t

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-03 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Not so much lazy yanks (well you are) but more the type that buys a MB new. Doctors and lawyers and crime bosses. Don't think they are interested in shifting gears. Also the MB autos are as good as a manual just about, look at the figures. These are not your slush boxes of yesteryear, where you p

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-03 Thread Ed Booher
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The clutch pedal assembly and slave cylinder and gearshifter is the > other big part of the manual tranny set up. > The best way to do this is to scrounge the parts out of wrecks in > Euroland, complete with gearboxes. > >

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Hendrik & Fay
The clutch pedal assembly and slave cylinder and gearshifter is the other big part of the manual tranny set up. The best way to do this is to scrounge the parts out of wrecks in Euroland, complete with gearboxes. Hendrik with a soon to be converted 230E 5 speed, time for the interior work today

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread E M
IL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E M > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:28 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move] > > > When ppl in North America bought Porsche 928s, they had the option of auto > > of stick. Something li

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread E M
Old Jags are great fun, even if they do need a tune up every time they get rained on. Ed 300E On 02/04/2008, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Back in my early days, just out of trade school, I > worked for a guy who owned eight Jags of various > models and years. One of them was a 1976 (8?)

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread E M
I rebuilt a 32 valve 928 engine once due to a bad water pump. Friend rebuilt the water pump, and didn't have the right press to do the job. The water pump shaft started to wobble, and the timing belt ran of the back of it, so caused the belt to skip a few teeth and it bent 8 of the 32 valves. Tig

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Kevin
Woo, progress. Fast forward to 2005, where a 1.8 turbo powered B5 volkswagen passat requires the same thing. Catch is the 1.8 is a belt engine, so you get the pleasure of doing that fun every 60k or so. And yes, the front part of the car literally comes off. Bumper, nose piece, radiator... On We

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread LWB250
Back in my early days, just out of trade school, I worked for a guy who owned eight Jags of various models and years. One of them was a 1976 (8?) XJ12. It was a the early one, as it had carbs rather than fuel injection. I seem to recall him telling me it was a $60k car new, and I think he paid a

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread R A Bennell
ne. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E M Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move] When ppl in North America bought Porsche 928s, they had the option o

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread E M
More the syncros than the clutches. Anyone who can only manage 10,000 miles out of a clutch probably shouldn't be allowed to drive one. I think I still have an old issue of the R&T you're talking about. I seem to remember a Ferrari V12 in there too, a 330 ? Those looking now for an old 928, pay

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Mitch Haley
E M wrote: > > When ppl in North America bought Porsche 928s, they had the option of auto > of stick. Something like 90% opted for auto (which were Benz based). I can remember Road & Track doing a used car classic or sort of exotic cars that had depreciated quite a bit. They had a 928, a 380SL,

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread E M
When ppl in North America bought Porsche 928s, they had the option of auto of stick. Something like 90% opted for auto (which were Benz based). You can see how the Germans drew their conclusions about us. :-) The fact that the latest porsche GT2 has a more of less gutted interior and over 500 hp

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Well, then, I am NOT going over there to buy a new car any time soon. That'll show them. Piffle. --R Mitch Haley wrote: > Rolf wrote: > >> the Germans assumed us lazy americans only wanted automatics... >> > > I think that MBUSA decides how it wants to position Benz > in this country,

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Rolf wrote: > > the Germans assumed us lazy americans only wanted automatics... I think that MBUSA decides how it wants to position Benz in this country, and I don't think the readers of this list are their target audience. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some people drive automatics, some people drive sticks. The fact that > the Germans assumed us lazy americans only wanted automatics just goes > to show that they aren't a perfect race. Why should I be forced to drive > an automa

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Rolf
Some people drive automatics, some people drive sticks. The fact that the Germans assumed us lazy americans only wanted automatics just goes to show that they aren't a perfect race. Why should I be forced to drive an automatic when they made sticks from the factory? Mind boggling. EU/Jap get all th

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am sorry, meant to read : > > Is this for diesel or gasser? 5 speed gasser trans aren't that hard to > > find. Its the 5 speed diesels that are more difficult. > > Anyone know if the 5speed from 124/201 will fit in a gasser 123?

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Rolf
I am sorry, meant to read : Is this for diesel or gasser? 5 speed gasser trans aren't that hard to find. Its the 5 speed diesels that are more difficult. Anyone know if the 5speed from 124/201 will fit in a gasser 123? One of the things I have toyed with is swapping internals from 5speed gasser

Re: [MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Rolf
Is this for diesel or gasser? 5 speed gasser eng aren't that hard to find. Its the 5 speed diesels that are more difficult. -Rolf Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Maybe a T5 world class would be OK. I figured if I were going

[MBZ] Manual tranny swaps [was: SDL won't move]

2008-04-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe a T5 world class would be OK. I figured if I were going to the trouble > of making or sourcing a bellhousing and finding a clutch disk that > would work, and adapting the linkages, I'd spend a little more > for a T